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I don't think you can be impeached for being an asshole, Bruce. I thought Schiff was embarrassingly melodramatic about the whole thing, too. But since it was no doubt ego that fueled Trump's attempts to get that public statement out of Zelensky, you're probably right.Today was pretty melodramatic at times. The ambassador did fine, but she didn't have much to say about the crimes. Just Trump's bad behavior which was revolting but not criminal.I am far from a Trump supporter, however I need to call out yet another misstep from the Democrats. I posted about how Obstruction was a losing argument after the Mueller Report was released and now I see them doing it again with the Bribery claim.
I get that Bribery is in the constitution so they want to draw a simple and direct line with their charges for impeachment but what Trump did and what the context of bribery in the constitution is are two different things. By their definition, politicians and all past presidents commit bribery in the course of their foreign affairs. What Trump did was an abuse of office by dealing for personal gain, that should be the focus, not bribery. What the constitution was trying to protect from was politicians being paid to make policy... of course the lines are blurred with all the lobbying that goes on in Washington, a system that I’d happily like to see reformed, but that’s another story.
Best thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
What he was doing on twitter might be added to the impeachment... Trump ego is going to be what hangs his political career...
Best thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
Best thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
Um. No. If you don't draw a line in the sand and say, "This is too much", then youare pretty much inviting Trump to do a lot worse.
Let's not forget HE PULLED THIS SHIT RIGHT AFTER THE MUELLER REPORT CAME OUT!
In short, he dodged a bullet and went right out and did something even more blatant!
It would be like if Clinton dodged the Lewinsky Bullet, and then celebrated by having an orgy with the intern pool.
You got up in the middle in the night and had sex with a goat. See that wasn’t hard to prove either... wow, easy to win arguments using your logic. Thanks for that.Prove that you posted evidence of a current investigation into Biden like you said you did. Point to the post or post it again because I sure as hell didn’t see it. The only thing you posted was a comment from Kent about investigating the money that the ceo of burisma stole.prove what???Prove itthats not true or else you’d state it now instead of giving the vague troll answers.
nothing vague about it,,,
its been posted many times and you refuse to look at it,,,
that youre a fucking idiot troll???
he stole it and then used it to pay his people including hunter,,,
see that wasnt very hard,,,
Let Trump do that childish shit. Call him on it or ignore him but don’t play the same games.Best thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
Um. No. If you don't draw a line in the sand and say, "This is too much", then youare pretty much inviting Trump to do a lot worse.
Let's not forget HE PULLED THIS SHIT RIGHT AFTER THE MUELLER REPORT CAME OUT!
In short, he dodged a bullet and went right out and did something even more blatant!
It would be like if Clinton dodged the Lewinsky Bullet, and then celebrated by having an orgy with the intern pool.
You got up in the middle in the night and had sex with a goat. See that wasn’t hard to prove either... wow, easy to win arguments using your logic. Thanks for that.Prove that you posted evidence of a current investigation into Biden like you said you did. Point to the post or post it again because I sure as hell didn’t see it. The only thing you posted was a comment from Kent about investigating the money that the ceo of burisma stole.prove what???Prove itnothing vague about it,,,
its been posted many times and you refuse to look at it,,,
that youre a fucking idiot troll???
he stole it and then used it to pay his people including hunter,,,
see that wasnt very hard,,,
yeah we wouldnt want trump or any other president looking into corruption in the future
if Trump was interested in corruption he would have mentioned the ceo of burisma, the guy actually accused of being corrupt, or one of the many others. But no, it was the DNC and Biden. Wake upBest thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
Um. No. If you don't draw a line in the sand and say, "This is too much", then youare pretty much inviting Trump to do a lot worse.
Let's not forget HE PULLED THIS SHIT RIGHT AFTER THE MUELLER REPORT CAME OUT!
In short, he dodged a bullet and went right out and did something even more blatant!
It would be like if Clinton dodged the Lewinsky Bullet, and then celebrated by having an orgy with the intern pool.
yeah we wouldnt want trump or any other president looking into corruption in the future
Good point. You got me thereYou got up in the middle in the night and had sex with a goat. See that wasn’t hard to prove either... wow, easy to win arguments using your logic. Thanks for that.Prove that you posted evidence of a current investigation into Biden like you said you did. Point to the post or post it again because I sure as hell didn’t see it. The only thing you posted was a comment from Kent about investigating the money that the ceo of burisma stole.
he stole it and then used it to pay his people including hunter,,,
see that wasnt very hard,,,
what I do in the middle of the night in my house is none of your business,,,
unless of course the goat belongs to you
Let Trump do that childish shit. Call him on it or ignore him but don’t play the same games.
I agree with everything said here with the exception that Trump abused his power for personal gain.I am far from a Trump supporter, however I need to call out yet another misstep from the Democrats. I posted about how Obstruction was a losing argument after the Mueller Report was released and now I see them doing it again with the Bribery claim.
I get that Bribery is in the constitution so they want to draw a simple and direct line with their charges for impeachment but what Trump did and what the context of bribery in the constitution is are two different things. By their definition, politicians and all past presidents commit bribery in the course of their foreign affairs. What Trump did was an abuse of office by dealing for personal gain, that should be the focus, not bribery. What the constitution was trying to protect from was politicians being paid to make policy... of course the lines are blurred with all the lobbying that goes on in Washington, a system that I’d happily like to see reformed, but that’s another story.
Best thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
That's how narcissists operate. Let them get away with minor stuff and they'll escalate. Which Trump has consistently done since he entered the Oval Office.Best thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
Um. No. If you don't draw a line in the sand and say, "This is too much", then youare pretty much inviting Trump to do a lot worse.
Let's not forget HE PULLED THIS SHIT RIGHT AFTER THE MUELLER REPORT CAME OUT!
In short, he dodged a bullet and went right out and did something even more blatant!
It would be like if Clinton dodged the Lewinsky Bullet, and then celebrated by having an orgy with the intern pool.
yeah we wouldnt want trump or any other president looking into corruption in the future
He wasn't looking for corruption. Looking for corruption would have meant sending investigators to look into it.
He wanted to get the Ukraine to smear Biden,and make it look like they were doing it on their own.
if Trump was interested in corruption he would have mentioned the ceo of burisma, the guy actually accused of being corrupt, or one of the many others. But no, it was the DNC and Biden. Wake upBest thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
Um. No. If you don't draw a line in the sand and say, "This is too much", then youare pretty much inviting Trump to do a lot worse.
Let's not forget HE PULLED THIS SHIT RIGHT AFTER THE MUELLER REPORT CAME OUT!
In short, he dodged a bullet and went right out and did something even more blatant!
It would be like if Clinton dodged the Lewinsky Bullet, and then celebrated by having an orgy with the intern pool.
yeah we wouldnt want trump or any other president looking into corruption in the future
but he did send investigators,,,,,,and also included the DOJ into it,,,
As one narrative fails democommiecrats drag out another. Quid pro quo went bust so they dragged out bribery. That's fizzling so they are trying witness intimidation in absolute desperation.
They already tried child moleststion and insider trading. Both of those died in the box.
but he did send investigators,,,,,,and also included the DOJ into it,,,
No, he really didn't. Rudy isn't an investigator, he's a bag man.
As one narrative fails democommiecrats drag out another. Quid pro quo went bust so they dragged out bribery. That's fizzling so they are trying witness intimidation in absolute desperation.
They already tried child moleststion and insider trading. Both of those died in the box.
YOu do realize Quid Pro Quo and Bribery are the same thing, right?
an investigator is someone you send to investigate,,,your opinion means nothing,,,,
thankfully neither bribery or QPQ never happened,,,
this is all about DNC/Ukraine collusion in 2016,,,
biden was an after thought when he admitted to wrong doing
an investigator is someone you send to investigate,,,your opinion means nothing,,,,
thankfully neither bribery or QPQ never happened,,,
this is all about DNC/Ukraine collusion in 2016,,,
biden was an after thought when he admitted to wrong doing
You guys keep going with that story.
If it's Trump's credibility vs. career diplomats, you really haven't got a leg to stand on.
