Lucy Hamilton
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Because the general election uses a first-past-the-post system, there is no hope for multiple parties. Small parties cannot grow and governments will always gain power with a minority of votes. This type of voting will put pressure to form two parties; right and left and as close to the center as possible to get votes.Yes, I know. Well actually their two defections became one actual seat in a General Election.
But, UKIP was always going to nose dive, it's good for the Tories.
The BBC World Service say that Theresa May going to Buckingham Palace at 12.30PM to tell Queen she can form a Government with the DUP (Democratic Unionist Party)
As it stands the Conservatives have 318 seats, this will be 319 seat soon as Kensington and Chelsea are still counting and it's a safe Tory seat.
Therefore the Conservatives 319 + DUP 10 = 329 = The Conservatives will be able to get through the Queen's Speech and also pass a Budget etc.
Sinn Fein have 7 seats but won't take their seats as they have an Abstentionist Policy because they won't swear allegiance to the British Queen.
Which is bad news. It means the DUP will just ask for stuff to screw the catholics and the Tories will screw everyone else.
Well quite a lot of Socially Conservative Catholics vote for and support the DUP, their former leader and First Minister Peter Robinson made a point to reach out to Socially Conservative Catholics, Sinn Fein being Left-Wing and very Socially Liberal.
I think in Northern Ireland it's for some time been less about hardcore religion as a reason to support a party and more about actual policies in supporting a party, which is how it should be, people have moved on from supporting a party simply based upon their religion, you know Roman Catholics MUST support either Sinn Fein or the SDLP and Protestants MUST support the DUP or the UUP regardless of whether they agree with the party policies.
Socially Conservative Catholics for example are anti-Abortion, the DUP are anti-Abortion, Sinn Fein and the SDLP are pro-Abortion, so it's logical on just that one issue that Socially Conservative Catholics would vote for the DUP.
The results in Northern Ireland now show there are only two parties there the DUP and Sinn Fein, the SDLP have lost all their seats and the UUP have lost all their seats and the Alliance Party (Northern Ireland party affiliated with UK Liberal Democrat Party) have been annihilated.
The DUP won the South Belfast seat off the SDLP and won back the South Antrim seat from the UUP.
The Independent is Lady Sylvia Hermon who used to be in the UUP from 1998-2010 and then she left the party in 2010 and has sat as an Independent since.
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Well, there are still hard core supporters on both sides. I knew a protestant who voted for Sinn Fein. Northern Ireland is changing, but it's still a pain in the ass full of problems. I think there was a big protest because people played football on a Sunday, I mean, they're kind of backwards over there.
"I think there was a big protest because people played football on a Sunday,"
Well for whatever reason, at least just protests are better than how they were during what they call The Troubles beginning in 1968 and ending in 1998, where almost on a daily basis for 30 years they were randomly shooting each other, I mean they even had chaos when burying their dead with random masked men turning up and shooting into crowds of mourners etc.
3,600 approx were killed on both sides, mainly retaliation killings, the * IRA or the INLA would kill a Protestant and in retaliation the ** UDA or the UVF would kill a Catholic, rinse and repeat.
* IRA = Provisional Irish Republican Army, INLA = Irish National Liberation Army, both Catholic, Irish Republican Paramilitary groups..
** UDA = Ulster Defence Association, UVF = Ulster Volunteer Force, both Protestant, Ulster Loyalist Paramilitary groups.
I think for some time the Falls Road in Belfast was the most dangerous street in the world.
Both the UDA and the UVF and the IRA and the INLA are completely disarmed.
However still in existence are The Real IRA who formed in 1997, those members of the IRA who refused to accept any Peace Deal and instead went rogue and have committed random atrocities since 1998, beginning with the Omagh Bombing which killed 29 people and injured 220 others.
Real Irish Republican Army - Wikipedia
Omagh bombing - Wikipedia