Buh Bye Obamacare

[Crepitus]

When faced with the option of good vs. evil, Trump chooses evil 100% of the time.

In a brief filed Thursday night, Trump’s Department of Justice (DOJ) sided with 20 GOP attorneys general, led by Paxton, to say that pre-existing conditions protections under the ACA are unconstitutional. The argument in the lawsuit, originally filed by Texas and 19 other states in February, is that eliminating the individual mandate penalty in Congress’ tax bill last year rendered the mandate, and therefore the rest of the health care law, unconstitutional.

Trump Sides with Ken Paxton to Argue Pre-Existing Conditions Protections are Unconstitutional

Trump campaigned on protecting people with pre-existing conditions. Another lie from the most prolific liar in American Presidential history.

People can’t afford to pay for other people shit

So, to be clear, like your messiah, you also don't believe people should be allowed to purchase health care if they have a pre-existing condition, right?

It doesn’t matter, the problem exists when you make other people pay for other peoples shit that’s never right

Do you even know how insurance, any insurance (auto, home, etc) works?

Considering his comments I'd have to say "not a chance".

 

[Crepitus]

Lol

It doesn’t matter, the problem exists when you make other people paying for other people shit that’s never right

You are constantly paying for other people’s shit in life. Most of it perfectly happy and willingly. You don’t care about people with pre-existing conditions. How proud you must feel about it. I hope you never have one.

Actually, I hope he does.

Lol
If I did have a pre-existing condition I certainly wouldn’t expect anyone else to pay for it, I’m not a fucking coward like that

You think people shouldn't be able to buy insurance from anyone for any price? What a heartless pig.

You’re misunderstanding, people can buy whatever they want don’t give two shits but no one should be forced to buy insurance whatsoever that’s cowardly shit

Lol, Insurance is cowardly?

So I'm guessing you don't have anything as cowardly as a retirement plan either?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

When faced with the option of good vs. evil, Trump chooses evil 100% of the time.

In a brief filed Thursday night, Trump’s Department of Justice (DOJ) sided with 20 GOP attorneys general, led by Paxton, to say that pre-existing conditions protections under the ACA are unconstitutional. The argument in the lawsuit, originally filed by Texas and 19 other states in February, is that eliminating the individual mandate penalty in Congress’ tax bill last year rendered the mandate, and therefore the rest of the health care law, unconstitutional.

Trump Sides with Ken Paxton to Argue Pre-Existing Conditions Protections are Unconstitutional

Trump campaigned on protecting people with pre-existing conditions. Another lie from the most prolific liar in American Presidential history.

Tell us, what is insurance? What is the nature of an insurance contract?

 

[fncceo]

you also don't believe people should be allowed to purchase health care if they have a pre-existing condition, right?

You don't buy insurance AFTER you crash your car. You get the whole concept of insurance, right?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When faced with the option of good vs. evil, Trump chooses evil 100% of the time.

In a brief filed Thursday night, Trump’s Department of Justice (DOJ) sided with 20 GOP attorneys general, led by Paxton, to say that pre-existing conditions protections under the ACA are unconstitutional. The argument in the lawsuit, originally filed by Texas and 19 other states in February, is that eliminating the individual mandate penalty in Congress’ tax bill last year rendered the mandate, and therefore the rest of the health care law, unconstitutional.

Trump Sides with Ken Paxton to Argue Pre-Existing Conditions Protections are Unconstitutional

Trump campaigned on protecting people with pre-existing conditions. Another lie from the most prolific liar in American Presidential history.

People can’t afford to pay for other people shit

So, to be clear, like your messiah, you also don't believe people should be allowed to purchase health care if they have a pre-existing condition, right?

It doesn’t matter, the problem exists when you make other people pay for other peoples shit that’s never right

What a fraud. In the other thread you already admitted you did not care about paying for other people's roads you never drive on as long as it was the state taking your money and not the Feds.

What does Road building have to do with healthcare?

With roads you pay for other people's shit, something you claim is a bad thing. You pay for roads you will never drive on, but you do not whine and cry about it like you do this. And sadly you are too stupid to know that even without ObamaCare you are paying for the healthcare of those that cannot pay for it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If the majority benefit significantly, it's therefor beneficial for the society.

Only really f*cked up Individualists disagree, and think it's better for Americans to pay more for healthcare, or even die from treatable conditions.

That this is somehow part of patriotic America.

Letting your fellow Americans pay more, or die when it comes to healthcare, is outright ridiculous.

Individualists don't belong in any kind of civilized society, they are probably not even Human.

Lol
Says someone who trusts the collective...

Collectivists care about society, all Individualists care about is themselves.

I certainly don't want my people to be replaced by Third-World riff-raffs, or dying from lack of healthcare.

All Individualists think of is "Me, mine, and now" a totally revolting ideology.

Lol
Collectivists caring about the individual… You make me laugh.
Shut the fuck up

This from the guy cheering about our national debt! What a fraud you turned out to be

Socialist entitlement programs are what make up the national debt... shit for brains

And you cheer for the debt, you fucking fraud!

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

People can’t afford to pay for other people shit

So, to be clear, like your messiah, you also don't believe people should be allowed to purchase health care if they have a pre-existing condition, right?

It doesn’t matter, the problem exists when you make other people pay for other peoples shit that’s never right

What a fraud. In the other thread you already admitted you did not care about paying for other people's roads you never drive on as long as it was the state taking your money and not the Feds.

What does Road building have to do with healthcare?

With roads you pay for other people's shit, something you claim is a bad thing. You pay for roads you will never drive on, but you do not whine and cry about it like you do this. And sadly you are too stupid to know that even without ObamaCare you are paying for the healthcare of those that cannot pay for it.

That's how insurance works. And, it's strictly voluntary.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Republican's signaled what was coming when they refused to repeal the ACA. They further told you what they were doing when they did away with the mandate, that is hastening the collapse. It's all been a game folks.

And when single payer is presented by Trump all his sheep will claim it is the greatest idea ever.

Na, Single payer is unacceptable to anybody with common sense. That’s why Obama loved it

Your savior in the White House is for it, he just lied to you for a little while to get you to support him.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's how insurance works. And, it's strictly voluntary.

But what is not strictly voluntary is medical facilities and personnel being forced by law to provide care to even those that cannot pay for it.

 

[Mousterian]

People can’t afford to pay for other people shit

So, it's every man for himself? Sounds like Anarchy, to me.

 

[Moonglow]

When faced with the option of good vs. evil, Trump chooses evil 100% of the time.

In a brief filed Thursday night, Trump’s Department of Justice (DOJ) sided with 20 GOP attorneys general, led by Paxton, to say that pre-existing conditions protections under the ACA are unconstitutional. The argument in the lawsuit, originally filed by Texas and 19 other states in February, is that eliminating the individual mandate penalty in Congress’ tax bill last year rendered the mandate, and therefore the rest of the health care law, unconstitutional.

Trump Sides with Ken Paxton to Argue Pre-Existing Conditions Protections are Unconstitutional

Trump campaigned on protecting people with pre-existing conditions. Another lie from the most prolific liar in American Presidential history.

People can’t afford to pay for other people shit

Don't you support Trump’s massive subsidies and tariffs, wherein by design you end up paying plenty for “other people shit?”

Healthcare is not a right, and people shouldn’t pay for other peoples shit

Not even fecalpheliacs?

 

[Moonglow]

People can’t afford to pay for other people shit

So, it's every man for himself? Sounds like Anarchy, to me.

It's every man for himself and the upper class wins..

 

[fncceo]

being forced by law to provide care to even those that cannot pay for it.

Being forced to provide services without pay was outlawed by the XIII Amendment.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

That's how insurance works. And, it's strictly voluntary.

But what is not strictly voluntary is medical facilities and personnel being forced by law to provide care to even those that cannot pay for it.

There is no complaint because they know it will be paid for by others.

A friend spent three days in the hospital and had a coronary stent installed.

Final bill? $37,000. That charge is to cover those who cannot pay.

 

[fncceo]

Sounds like Anarchy, to me.

Anarchy isn't every man for himself. Anarchy is every man for anyone else's stuff.

 

[BULLDOG]

That's how insurance works. And, it's strictly voluntary.

But what is not strictly voluntary is medical facilities and personnel being forced by law to provide care to even those that cannot pay for it.

There is no complaint because they know it will be paid for by others.

A friend spent three days in the hospital and had a coronary stent installed.

Final bill? $37,000. That charge is to cover those who cannot pay.

If your friend had insurance, we wouldn't have to pay for his surgery.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

That's how insurance works. And, it's strictly voluntary.

But what is not strictly voluntary is medical facilities and personnel being forced by law to provide care to even those that cannot pay for it.

There is no complaint because they know it will be paid for by others.

A friend spent three days in the hospital and had a coronary stent installed.

Final bill? $37,000. That charge is to cover those who cannot pay.

If your friend had insurance, we wouldn't have to pay for his surgery.

That was the charge against his insurance.

 

[whitehall]

How can it possibly be constitutional to force insurance companies to make risky investments? Isn't that how we got into the financial crisis of 08 when insurance companies were forced by democrat administrations to make bad loans or face civil rights litigation? You drift into the arena of fascism when governments force corporations into situations that are guaranteed to lose money. If the government needs to insure terminal patients or patients who continue to engage in risky behavior it's up to the government to fund their health care and not the private sector.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

How many are going to lose their insurance?

Who cares? Health Insurance and Health Care in general ARE NOT Rights.

In my country they are. How many should die?

We're not in your country, so why do you care? Furthermore, you ask how many should die, yet the statistics show you have better odds of surviving a serious illness or condition in our country than in yours. We don't have to wait six months to see a doctor.

I have two friends who live in Canada and neither do they.

Well I guess that’s your little secret isn’t it

Canada has some of the longest wait times to see doctors, specialists: report

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

How can it possibly be constitutional to force insurance companies to make risky investments? Isn't that how we got into the financial crisis of 08 when insurance companies were forced by democrat administrations to make bad loans or face civil rights litigation? You drift into the arena of fascism when governments force corporations into situations that are guaranteed to lose money. If the government needs to insure terminal patients or patients who continue to engage in risky behavior it's up to the government to fund their health care and not the private sector.

Indeed. It's not insurance by a long shot. It's government charity at the barrel of a gun..