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Bureau of Land Management vs Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, and the US Constitution

You are one of Comrade Bernard guys - you thrive when a bureaucrat has his digits up your nostrils.


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You're the boy that cried tyranny. just try, chicken-little, to explain what you mean by tyranny


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.


Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
you are one stupid motherfucker.

does it bother you even a little that you can get so worked up over 'tyranny' but can't even explain what you mean by it?


AGAIN STUPID MOTHERFUCKER

HOW DID YOU COME OF AGE WITHOUT HAVING A CLUE WHAT THE US CONSTITUTION (1787) STANDS FOR?


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wow. you can't even define the tyranny you're so riled up about and you still have the gall to call me stupid. now you want to bring your ill-conceived notions of the constitution into play.

let me just ask once more - what tyranny do you believe you see that i do not?


I knew it, Comrade Sanders has told you that LIBERTY and the RIGHT to property are "ill conceived notions of the constitution"

What a stupid motherfucker.....


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Oregon Standoff: Federal Land Grab vs. the Sagebrush Rebellion

The occupation of the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon by a small group of armed protesters represents a new and confrontational tactic in the Sagebrush Rebellion–the decades old struggle of Western ranchers against federal control of state lands. While the majority of rancher disputes are against the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) the US Fish and Wildlife Service has been just as ruthless–in this case expanding the wildlife refuge at the expense of neighboring ranchers. This week I’ll detail the struggle of the Hammond family, and of Ammon Bundy the protest leader.
When you read the litany of federal abuse of ranching families, you will better understand why some ranchers are staging an armed resistance. I also give some suggestions on how this can be resolved peacefully.

The continuous criminal enterprise continues to slaughter Americans , perpetrate treason against the Constitution while the narcotized populace pick their collective noses and propel and avowed socialist to the Whitehouse.

For shame



What land have they grabbed?

You do realize that the land where that sanctuary is was BOUGHT over 100 years ago by the US federal government don't you?

Ever hear of a man by the name of Theodore Roosevelt?

He was president a the beginning of the 20th century.

He had the federal government BUY that land from those who owned it which is what the constitution requires.

So there is no land grab.

Stop lying.

Article I, section 8:

"and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings"

Where are the forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings in Oregon?
That is not the Article and section that that is relevant. The land in question was was not and is not land purchased by a state legislature for forts, magazines, dockyards, etc.
The relevant Article is Article 4 Section 3 Claus 2. How could you be so ill informed not to know this? It has been in the news for almost a month. Do you only read propagandized radical traitor rebel crap or what?

A sovereign state is not a territory.


BUT THE MOTHERFUCKERS INSIDE THE DC BELTWAY TREAT WESTERN STATES AS IF THEY WERE TERRITORIES . AND THERE ARE NO ARTICLE III COURTS TO VENTILATE THE ISSUE
 
Oregon Standoff: Federal Land Grab vs. the Sagebrush Rebellion

The occupation of the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon by a small group of armed protesters represents a new and confrontational tactic in the Sagebrush Rebellion–the decades old struggle of Western ranchers against federal control of state lands. While the majority of rancher disputes are against the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) the US Fish and Wildlife Service has been just as ruthless–in this case expanding the wildlife refuge at the expense of neighboring ranchers. This week I’ll detail the struggle of the Hammond family, and of Ammon Bundy the protest leader.
When you read the litany of federal abuse of ranching families, you will better understand why some ranchers are staging an armed resistance. I also give some suggestions on how this can be resolved peacefully.

The continuous criminal enterprise continues to slaughter Americans , perpetrate treason against the Constitution while the narcotized populace pick their collective noses and propel and avowed socialist to the Whitehouse.

For shame

Lavoy was trying to pull out a gun and murder an Oregon State Trooper when he was shot.

I don't give a fiddler's fuck what you think of your 'Sagebrush Rebellion'. When you start trying to kill cops, you can go fuck yourself. Lavoy is exactly where he should be based on his own actions.


WUT?

OH, ITS YOU

BLIND AND RETARDED
 
Oregon Standoff: Federal Land Grab vs. the Sagebrush Rebellion

The occupation of the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon by a small group of armed protesters represents a new and confrontational tactic in the Sagebrush Rebellion–the decades old struggle of Western ranchers against federal control of state lands. While the majority of rancher disputes are against the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) the US Fish and Wildlife Service has been just as ruthless–in this case expanding the wildlife refuge at the expense of neighboring ranchers. This week I’ll detail the struggle of the Hammond family, and of Ammon Bundy the protest leader.
When you read the litany of federal abuse of ranching families, you will better understand why some ranchers are staging an armed resistance. I also give some suggestions on how this can be resolved peacefully.

The continuous criminal enterprise continues to slaughter Americans , perpetrate treason against the Constitution while the narcotized populace pick their collective noses and propel and avowed socialist to the Whitehouse.

For shame

Lavoy was trying to pull out a gun and murder an Oregon State Trooper when he was shot.

I don't give a fiddler's fuck what you think of your 'Sagebrush Rebellion'. When you start trying to kill cops, you can go fuck yourself. Lavoy is exactly where he should be based on his own actions.


WUT?

OH, ITS YOU

BLIND AND RETARDED

I see well enough not to laud or praise a wanna-be cop killer and criminal. Lavoy was both.

And that's what he'll be remembered for.
 
Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.
Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.


LISTEN , YOU MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT , HAD HE INTENDED TO KILL THE GESTAPO HE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN THE SUV RIGHT INTO THE CHECKPOINT.


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^ :blowup:
lolibertarians live for these "perceived threats" to their clinger existence. Look at Paulitician or Dont Taz Me Bro, Odium or.....


STUPID FASCISTS.

THEY MUST ALWAYS ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH THE BROWNSHIRTS.


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why are you yelling? You a lolibertarian? Yes or no?
 
You're the boy that cried tyranny. just try, chicken-little, to explain what you mean by tyranny


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.


Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
you are one stupid motherfucker.

does it bother you even a little that you can get so worked up over 'tyranny' but can't even explain what you mean by it?


AGAIN STUPID MOTHERFUCKER

HOW DID YOU COME OF AGE WITHOUT HAVING A CLUE WHAT THE US CONSTITUTION (1787) STANDS FOR?


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wow. you can't even define the tyranny you're so riled up about and you still have the gall to call me stupid. now you want to bring your ill-conceived notions of the constitution into play.

let me just ask once more - what tyranny do you believe you see that i do not?


I knew it, Comrade Sanders has told you that LIBERTY and the RIGHT to property are "ill conceived notions of the constitution"

What a stupid motherfucker.....


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wow. you really are dumb.

who lost their liberty in oregon?
who lost their property?

nobody until they threw a tantrum and acted like terrorists
 
Gee, no wonder Comrade Sanders believes that the people are ready to elect an avowed socialist. The narcotized believes that the only thing they can do is peacefully surrender and accept tyranny.

It was the Hammonds' decision, not yours or mine. It's not necessarily the choice I would have made, but they made it nonetheless and refused the militia's help. End of story.
 
nobody until they threw a tantrum and acted like terrorists

Who were they terrorizing?
birdwatchers. anyone that wanted to lawfully use the refuge. the community around them. the rancher that lost his fence.

take your pick.

Those people were terrorized? You have evidence of them saying so?

The problem I have with your labeling of "terrorist" is that it's quickly becoming a new buzz word for people to use towards anyone acting out in matter they don't like. What ISIS does is terrorism. What Timothy McVeigh was terrorism. What these guys did in Oregon, while illegal, hardly comes close to that. "Terrorism" is going to become the new "racist" where it is over and inappropriately used and will no longer have any worthwhile meaning.
 
nobody until they threw a tantrum and acted like terrorists

Who were they terrorizing?
birdwatchers. anyone that wanted to lawfully use the refuge. the community around them. the rancher that lost his fence.

take your pick.

Those people were terrorized? You have evidence of them saying so?

The problem I have with your labeling of "terrorist" is that it's quickly becoming a new buzz word for people to use towards anyone acting out in matter they don't like. What ISIS does is terrorism. What Timothy McVeigh was terrorism. What these guys did in Oregon, while illegal, hardly comes close to that. "Terrorism" is going to become the new "racist" where it is over and inappropriately used and will no longer have any worthwhile meaning.
you dont think the people in the community were worried about the group of armed crazies in their backyard?

your point is well made though.
 
nobody until they threw a tantrum and acted like terrorists

Who were they terrorizing?
Anyone who wished or needed to visit the refuge was threatened or intimidated into not doing so. Federal employees, whether refuge employees or federal agents were threatened and intimidated by armed persons who suggested aggressive, violent and hostile repercussions for doing their lawful jobs. The weapons combined with verbal intentions are what made their actions terrorist acts.
Terrorism has a legal definition. It is not a buzz word. Intimidation with the use of a weapon infers a terrorist act.
 
WE HAVE NO COURTS .

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you are extremely dumb.
you can't possibly believe this, so why would you say it?



LISTEN DINGLE BERRY

THERE ARE NO ARTICLE III COURTS

DON't ARFGUE THE POINT. YOU ARE A FUCKTARD WHO HAS NEVER HEARD OF THE US CONSTITUTION. OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T BE MAKING THE ASININE REMARK.

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I probably know better, but I'll bite. What do you mean by no Art. III Courts?
This should be good.
 
WE HAVE NO COURTS .

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you are extremely dumb.
you can't possibly believe this, so why would you say it?



LISTEN DINGLE BERRY

THERE ARE NO ARTICLE III COURTS

DON't ARFGUE THE POINT. YOU ARE A FUCKTARD WHO HAS NEVER HEARD OF THE US CONSTITUTION. OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T BE MAKING THE ASININE REMARK.

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I probably know better, but I'll bite. What do you mean by no Art. III Courts?
This should be good.
I think he's contending the anti-fed govt guys don't get fair treatment in federal court. And, the reality is they will lose because there's really no open legal question. The ranchers don't have a case. IF they didn't threaten people with guns, I'd be more sympathetic. But, there's nothing new, and a primer on the sagebrush rebellion is in Michener's Centennial.
 

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