Bush didn't just lie........

[GWV5903]

It is doubtful that Republicans would have provided Obama the same courtesy

You're correct, most people around the world know Oblammer is a fucking moron...

You're not one of them though...

 

[Contumacious]

Fear mongering was much more effective

George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.

What the Bush administration launched in 2002 and 2003 may have been the most comprehensive, sophisticated, and misleading campaign of government propaganda in American history. Spend too much time in the weeds, and you risk missing the hysterical tenor of the whole campaign.

In the summer of 2002, the administration established something called the White House Iraq Group, through which Karl Rove and other communication strategists like Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin coordinated with policy officials to sell the public on the threat from Iraq in order to justify war. "The script had been finalized with great care over the summer," White House press secretary Scott McClellan later wrote, for a "campaign to convince Americans that war with Iraq was inevitable and necessary."
In that campaign, intelligence wasn't something to be understood and assessed by the administration in making their decisions, it was a propaganda tool to lead the public to the conclusion that the administration wanted. Again and again we saw a similar pattern: An allegation would bubble up from somewhere, some in the intelligence community would say that it could be true but others would say it was either speculation or outright baloney, but before you knew it the president or someone else was presenting it to the public as settled fact.





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Gee, this is true but old news. Exposed by Colonel Karen Kwiatskioski, USAF, Ret'd .

"A high-ranking military officer reveals how Defense Department extremists suppressed information and twisted the truth to drive the country to war."



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[GWV5903]

If we had listened to Obama in 2002, we never would have gone in there in the first place

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

when the war mongering Bush slags start denying we went to war based on lies ...well you can confront them with this data base..
'Lies, Damned Lies, a Searchable Database of Lies'

.......... published .... on January 22, 2008:
For the past six years, activists, progressive bloggers and a handful of traditional media pundits have accused Mister Bush, Richard Bruce Cheney and others in the crony fest running the executive branch of lying us into Iraq. The relentless response - everybody from Condoleeza Rice to Bill Kristol to the least-read right-wing pundit thug - has been to say we're the liars, and traitors as well, for daring suggest such a thing at a time when the nation faces the most dire threat since Adolf Hitler gave the go-ahead to heavy-water experiments, blah, blah, blah.

Eventually—without apologies, of course—there were a few admissions delivered in the passive-aggressive tense popularized decades ago by Richard Nixon: "mistakes were made."

Now, thanks to the Center for Public Integrity and the Fund for Independence in Journalism, everybody can check out those lies for themselves at The War Card: Orchestrated Deception on the Path to War.

Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith at CPI write:

President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Nearly five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the record shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

False pretenses Center for Public Integrity

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Search the 935 Iraq War false statements

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

If we had listened to Obama in 2002, we never would have gone in there in the first place

Search the 935 Iraq War false statements

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

On August 26, 2002, in an address to the national convention of the Veteran of Foreign Wars, Cheney flatly declared: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." In fact, former CIA Director George Tenet later recalled, Cheney's assertions went well beyond his agency's assessments at the time. Another CIA official, referring to the same speech, told journalist Ron Suskind, "Our reaction was, 'Where is he getting this stuff from?' "

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham was moved to make a rare rational remark: “You can’t still think that going into Iraq, now, as a sane human being, was the right thing to. If you do, there has to be something wrong with you.”

 

[Dragonlady]

The U.S. media at the time swallowed everything that the Bush Administration put out and ignored anything that didn't tow the party line because anything that didn't support the Administration was aiding and abetting the terrorists.

And who can forget the "terrorist alerts" leading into the 2006 election. Alerts of various colours were issued almost weekly to frighten people into believing that only Bush could keep them safe from terrorism.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[LeftofLeft]

Why did Bush ignore pre-9/11 warnings from the Clinton Administration?

Why did the Clinton Administration gut the intelligence budget and limited intelligence sharing among law enforcement after the World Trade Center was attacked on their watch? When the World Trade Center under Bush Administration, they responded by investing in intelligence and facilitated intelligence sharing among law enforcement.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Why did Bush ignore pre-9/11 warnings from the Clinton Administration?

Why did the Clinton Administration gut the intelligence budget and limited intelligence sharing among law enforcement after the World Trade Center was attacked on their watch? When the World Trade Center under Bush Administration, they responded by investing in intelligence and facilitated intelligence sharing among law enforcement.

who received a hand delivered Daily Briefing warning [while on vacation] titled:

"Bin Laden poised to strike inside the US"

who reacted to that warning by saying

"OK you've covered your ass"

Here is a clue...he was white, he was President and he was stupid....

 

[RKMBrown]

On August 26, 2002, in an address to the national convention of the Veteran of Foreign Wars, Cheney flatly declared: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." In fact, former CIA Director George Tenet later recalled, Cheney's assertions went well beyond his agency's assessments at the time. Another CIA official, referring to the same speech, told journalist Ron Suskind, "Our reaction was, 'Where is he getting this stuff from?' "

Well to be fair. Iraq did and still does have WMDs. They did use them. They did attack our allies. They did threaten us many times. They were fucking shooting at our planes. I'm curious, are you mentally handicapped?

 

[there4eyeM]

The invasion was illegal and a war crime.
What more does one need? How can it be defended?

 

[Wildman]

Fear mongering was much more effective

George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.

read this you stupid beyond all reasonability then get back to me.., OK ?

Bob Woodward Bush Didn t Lie About WMDs to Justify Iraq War US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

or get someone to read it to you.

 

[Wildman]

I'm curious, are you mentally handicapped?

she will not answer that question...., simply because she is a certified idiot.

 

[RKMBrown]

The invasion was illegal and a war crime.
What more does one need? How can it be defended?

Which invasion was a war crime? The one's that Obama did or the ones that Bush did?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Well to be fair. Iraq did and still does have WMDs. They did use them. They did attack our allies. They did threaten us many times. They were fucking shooting at our planes. I'm curious, are you mentally handicapped?

Here is CONSERVATIVE commentator
Laura Ingraham On Jeb Bush Saying He Would There Has To Be Something Wrong With Him Video RealClearPolitics

I'm a Republican, but I'm not stupid. I'm a conservative and I learn from the past and I improve myself, I don't bring in the same people who made the same stupid decisions in the 2000s, to get us intro the next part of the 21st Centruy. Come on. We can learn.