California wants to end income tax for teachers. I can't believe my eyes

[bodecea]

I find it odd that I am not allowed to make judgements about you, yet you feel free to slander my profession at will with your lies and misconceptions.

Slander? Lies? Sorry pal, but your profession has a track record of failure. Teachers could not survive in the real world. If it weren't for the government (and taxpayers who actually WORK for a living), you would be on welfare.

The only failure is your ability to recognize the real world over some deep-seated psychological trauma that caused you to be so ignorant.

I feel sorry for you. I really do!

Nice try, but more people agree with my assessment than with yours.

Oh really? Show us the statistics to back that up.

 

[owebo]

I find it odd that I am not allowed to make judgements about you, yet you feel free to slander my profession at will with your lies and misconceptions.

Slander? Lies? Sorry pal, but your profession has a track record of failure. Teachers could not survive in the real world. If it weren't for the government (and taxpayers who actually WORK for a living), you would be on welfare.

The only failure is your ability to recognize the real world over some deep-seated psychological trauma that caused you to be so ignorant.

I feel sorry for you. I really do!

Nice try, but more people agree with my assessment than with yours.

Oh really? Show us the statistics to back that up.

Legal or illegal?

 

[S.J.]

I find it odd that I am not allowed to make judgements about you, yet you feel free to slander my profession at will with your lies and misconceptions.

Slander? Lies? Sorry pal, but your profession has a track record of failure. Teachers could not survive in the real world. If it weren't for the government (and taxpayers who actually WORK for a living), you would be on welfare.

The only failure is your ability to recognize the real world over some deep-seated psychological trauma that caused you to be so ignorant.

I feel sorry for you. I really do!

Nice try, but more people agree with my assessment than with yours.

Oh really? Show us the statistics to back that up.

Show statistics to an idiot? That would be a stupid thing to do.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Teachers are important but I'd give them a tax credit and never even think about ending the income tax.

 

[BluesLegend]

Why do you deflect, are you ashamed of how Dem's and the teachers unions rip off the poor and middle class tax payers?

Why are you too retarded to know what is or isn't a deflection?

Lets get back to Dem politicians ripping off taxpayers to bribe teachers unions. Did you know that Dem politicians guaranteed the teachers union pension fund would make at least 8% a year in the stock market, and that if it didn't taxpayers would gift them the money to make sure they go at least a 8% return? Guaranteed stock market profits, paid for by poor and middle class taxpayers. Sounds criminal doesn't it.

lol, you think paying teachers less will bring better people into the teaching profession?

That is the goddammest most mentally retarded thing I've ever heard said on this forum,

and that's quite a bar to clear, given the nature of USMB's rightwingerism.

Favoritism to teachers union donors at the expense of the poor and middle class taxpayers is against everything you left wingers say you are for. Explain it.

Higher pay for teachers bring better teachers and schools and citizens, dingbat dupe....

 

[BluesLegend]

I'm sure they mean state income tax not federal. It sounds like a good idea to give any hard working state or local employee a tax break but wouldn't you think they would start with Police Officers? Ca. is second in the Nation with Police Officer line of duty deaths (10 in 2016). How many teachers were killed in the line of duty?

No, the teachers unions are a HUGE cash cow for the Democratic party, hence they get special favors and treatment. The poor and middle class get to pay for it.

You education bashers are all alike. You know that the unions do not get tax dollars, but you all act like they do. Do they give campaign contributions to the Democrats? Of course they do! The reason for that is simple. Conservatives usually cover their ears with their hands and scream "Lalalalalalalalala" every time the subject is brought up. When conservatives stop trying to throw the baby out with the bath water, maybe some unions will slip a little money their way. Until then, libs will get all of the union money like they do from most unions.

Do you really wish to discuss lying lowlife scum teachers in my liberal state and how their union fucks over taxpayers every chance they get? And don't give me that shit about how 'its for the kids' what a pant load.

 

[BluesLegend]

No, the teachers unions are a HUGE cash cow for the Democratic party, hence they get special favors and treatment. The poor and middle class get to pay for it.

lol, like the Republicans don't get even more money from anti-union interests.

Why do you deflect, are you ashamed of how Dem's and the teachers unions rip off the poor and middle class tax payers?

Why are you too retarded to know what is or isn't a deflection?

Lets get back to Dem politicians ripping off taxpayers to bribe teachers unions. Did you know that Dem politicians guaranteed the teachers union pension fund would make at least 8% a year in the stock market, and that if it didn't taxpayers would gift them the money to make sure they go at least a 8% return? Guaranteed stock market profits, paid for by poor and middle class taxpayers. Sounds criminal doesn't it.

Maybe in your state you need to elect some conservatives to see that the funds are maintained and you won't need those guarantees.

The teachers union in Oregon owns the state and its politicians. Teachers line their pockets screwing over taxpayers every chance they get. Every time voters increase school funding the teachers union rushes in and gobbles up all the money, leaving little for the kids, books, school buildings, etc. Teachers in my area are blatant liars, they openly despise taxpayers.

 

[Onyx]

we have to get this Socialism crap out of the country, immediatey

Eliminating a tax is socialism? This guys a moron.

 

[American_Jihad]

They want to protect the indoctrinator's of your children, I'm in favor of letting Mexico & the cartels have Califuckingfornia after we take all our stuff out...
Top 10 Stupidest New Laws in California for 2017

 

[Markle]

Higher pay for teachers bring better teachers and schools and citizens, dingbat dupe....

The FAR left Progressives answer for ANY OF THEIR FAILURES!

It would have worked...IF ONLY WE HAD MORE OF YOUR MONEY!

 

[francoHFW]

Higher pay for teachers bring better teachers and schools and citizens, dingbat dupe....

The FAR left Progressives answer for ANY OF THEIR FAILURES!

It would have worked...IF ONLY WE HAD MORE OF YOUR MONEY!

Public schools are just fine unless they're in a war zone...BUT higher salaries WOULD help. Great job, greedy idiot billionaire GOP- and the chumps.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If paying teachers less will improve education, shouldn't we pay our troops less to improve defense?

 

[Seawytch]

They are non partisan offices. You don't have to be affiliated with a party to vote for them. On our ballots in CA, their affiliation is not known without researching it.

They are people from the community. Doesn't get more non partisan than that.

That is beside the point. Elections are by nature partisan.

I live in Oakland, CA. Before every election, I receive mailers from the Democrat party with their recommendations for all of the elected postions, including School Board ones. I seriously doubt that Oakland is unique in this aspect.

That is your opinion and nothing more.

My opinion, informed by factual observations is much better informed than yours, you sad hag.

Actually, what I posted was fact. On a ballot, political affiliation is not listed for School Board offices. You posted your opinion on that fact.

Not having the political affiliation noted on the balllot is not the same as being non-partisan.

These are elected officials. They have endorsers, sponsors and contributors. They are political, and hence, partisan.

Golly, thanks repeating your opinion about the facts I provided.

 

[initforme]

Step one get rid rid of the pledge of allegiance...a form of indoctrination.

 

[bodecea]

I find it odd that I am not allowed to make judgements about you, yet you feel free to slander my profession at will with your lies and misconceptions.

Slander? Lies? Sorry pal, but your profession has a track record of failure. Teachers could not survive in the real world. If it weren't for the government (and taxpayers who actually WORK for a living), you would be on welfare.

The only failure is your ability to recognize the real world over some deep-seated psychological trauma that caused you to be so ignorant.

I feel sorry for you. I really do!

Nice try, but more people agree with my assessment than with yours.

Oh really? Show us the statistics to back that up.

Show statistics to an idiot? That would be a stupid thing to do.

Well, your 181 IQ tells you to say that?

 

[bodecea]

Step one get rid rid of the pledge of allegiance...a form of indoctrination.

And when will that happen?

 

[bodecea]

They want to protect the indoctrinator's of your children, I'm in favor of letting Mexico & the cartels have Califuckingfornia after we take all our stuff out...
Top 10 Stupidest New Laws in California for 2017

Well, the RW wants to run our schools like Mexico does.

 

[Markle]

Higher pay for teachers bring better teachers and schools and citizens, dingbat dupe....

The Strange thing about Progressives. We spend more on health care than other nations, have superior care and that is a bad thing.

We spend more on education than other nations, get terrible results and Progressives say we need to spend MORE.

The major difference? ONCE IS PRIVATE WITH A PROFIT MOTIVE, HEALTH CARE, AND THE OTHER IS GOVERNMENT, WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY. Go figure!

AP June 25, 2013, 11:55 AM
U.S. education spending tops global list, study shows
WASHINGTON The United States spends more than other developed nations on its students' education each year, with parents and private foundations picking up more of the costs, an international survey released Tuesday found.

Despite the spending, U.S. students still trail their rivals on international tests.

The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development — which groups the world's most developed countries — writes in its annual report that brand-new and experienced teachers alike in the United States out-earn most of their counterparts around the globe. But U.S. salaries have not risen at the same pace as other nations.

The findings, part of a 440-page tome of statistics, put the United States' spending on its young people in context.

The United States spent more than $11,000 per elementary student in 2010 and more than $12,000 per high school student. When researchers factored in the cost for programs after high school education such as college or vocational training, the United States spent $15,171 on each young person in the system — more than any other nation covered in the report.

U.S. education spending tops global list, study shows

 

[initforme]

Not one poster has put ANY resp ion divinity on kids to take ownership of their education. Inner city schools don't thrive in many cases due to a culture of no responsibility beginning at home. Completing assignments and apathetic work habits have not green mentioned. Until that geyts fixed you can cut salaries or increase them it won't matter one iota. Want to fix education? Fix the broken down families first.

 

[American_Jihad]

They want to protect the indoctrinator's of your children, I'm in favor of letting Mexico & the cartels have Califuckingfornia after we take all our stuff out...
Top 10 Stupidest New Laws in California for 2017

Well, the RW wants to run our schools like Mexico does.

Not what I said, but what do you expect from a left-wing trollop...