California wants to end income tax for teachers. I can't believe my eyes

I'm sure they mean state income tax not federal. It sounds like a good idea to give any hard working state or local employee a tax break but wouldn't you think they would start with Police Officers? Ca. is second in the Nation with Police Officer line of duty deaths (10 in 2016). How many teachers were killed in the line of duty?

No, the teachers unions are a HUGE cash cow for the Democratic party, hence they get special favors and treatment. The poor and middle class get to pay for it.

lol, like the Republicans don't get even more money from anti-union interests.

Why do you deflect, are you ashamed of how Dem's and the teachers unions rip off the poor and middle class tax payers?

Why are you too retarded to know what is or isn't a deflection?

Lets get back to Dem politicians ripping off taxpayers to bribe teachers unions. Did you know that Dem politicians guaranteed the teachers union pension fund would make at least 8% a year in the stock market, and that if it didn't taxpayers would gift them the money to make sure they go at least a 8% return? Guaranteed stock market profits, paid for by poor and middle class taxpayers. Sounds criminal doesn't it.
 
I'm sure they mean state income tax not federal. It sounds like a good idea to give any hard working state or local employee a tax break but wouldn't you think they would start with Police Officers? Ca. is second in the Nation with Police Officer line of duty deaths (10 in 2016). How many teachers were killed in the line of duty?

No, the teachers unions are a HUGE cash cow for the Democratic party, hence they get special favors and treatment. The poor and middle class get to pay for it.

lol, like the Republicans don't get even more money from anti-union interests.

Why do you deflect, are you ashamed of how Dem's and the teachers unions rip off the poor and middle class tax payers?

Why are you too retarded to know what is or isn't a deflection?

Lets get back to Dem politicians ripping off taxpayers to bribe teachers unions. Did you know that Dem politicians guaranteed the teachers union pension fund would make at least 8% a year in the stock market, and that if it didn't taxpayers would gift them the money to make sure they go at least a 8% return? Guaranteed stock market profits, paid for by poor and middle class taxpayers. Sounds criminal doesn't it.

lol, you think paying teachers less will bring better people into the teaching profession?

That is the goddammest most mentally retarded thing I've ever heard said on this forum,

and that's quite a bar to clear, given the nature of USMB's rightwingerism.
 
No, the teachers unions are a HUGE cash cow for the Democratic party, hence they get special favors and treatment. The poor and middle class get to pay for it.

lol, like the Republicans don't get even more money from anti-union interests.

Why do you deflect, are you ashamed of how Dem's and the teachers unions rip off the poor and middle class tax payers?

Why are you too retarded to know what is or isn't a deflection?

Lets get back to Dem politicians ripping off taxpayers to bribe teachers unions. Did you know that Dem politicians guaranteed the teachers union pension fund would make at least 8% a year in the stock market, and that if it didn't taxpayers would gift them the money to make sure they go at least a 8% return? Guaranteed stock market profits, paid for by poor and middle class taxpayers. Sounds criminal doesn't it.

lol, you think paying teachers less will bring better people into the teaching profession?

That is the goddammest most mentally retarded thing I've ever heard said on this forum,

and that's quite a bar to clear, given the nature of USMB's rightwingerism.

Favoritism to teachers union donors at the expense of the poor and middle class taxpayers is against everything you left wingers say you are for. Explain it.
 
School Boards are non partisan elected offices.


Oh yeah. Elected officials are non-partisan.

As if.

They are non partisan offices. You don't have to be affiliated with a party to vote for them. On our ballots in CA, their affiliation is not known without researching it.

They are people from the community. Doesn't get more non partisan than that.


That is beside the point. Elections are by nature partisan.

I live in Oakland, CA. Before every election, I receive mailers from the Democrat party with their recommendations for all of the elected postions, including School Board ones. I seriously doubt that Oakland is unique in this aspect.

That is your opinion and nothing more.


My opinion, informed by factual observations is much better informed than yours, you sad hag.

Actually, what I posted was fact. On a ballot, political affiliation is not listed for School Board offices. You posted your opinion on that fact.
 
Just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to organized crime between Dem's and the teachers unions. I'd note some of the shit that goes on in Oregon but your heads would explode.

yes... everyone should be uneducated, ignorant and subliterate like you. :cuckoo:
No....we need fewer of you democrats in America...:lol:
and give everything away to the greedy idiot rich!, dupe.

Your hatred of wealthy successful people is noted, but why? Do you think its unfair that some people have more than you do? Since you are a wealth hating lib I'm assuming you give all your wealth to the government to be redistributed fairly, right? I think we know the answer.
Brainwashed, unable to even think anymore...^^
 
lol, like the Republicans don't get even more money from anti-union interests.

Why do you deflect, are you ashamed of how Dem's and the teachers unions rip off the poor and middle class tax payers?

Why are you too retarded to know what is or isn't a deflection?

Lets get back to Dem politicians ripping off taxpayers to bribe teachers unions. Did you know that Dem politicians guaranteed the teachers union pension fund would make at least 8% a year in the stock market, and that if it didn't taxpayers would gift them the money to make sure they go at least a 8% return? Guaranteed stock market profits, paid for by poor and middle class taxpayers. Sounds criminal doesn't it.

lol, you think paying teachers less will bring better people into the teaching profession?

That is the goddammest most mentally retarded thing I've ever heard said on this forum,

and that's quite a bar to clear, given the nature of USMB's rightwingerism.

Favoritism to teachers union donors at the expense of the poor and middle class taxpayers is against everything you left wingers say you are for. Explain it.
Higher pay for teachers bring better teachers and schools and citizens, dingbat dupe....
 
yes... everyone should be uneducated, ignorant and subliterate like you. :cuckoo:
No....we need fewer of you democrats in America...:lol:
and give everything away to the greedy idiot rich!, dupe.

Your hatred of wealthy successful people is noted, but why? Do you think its unfair that some people have more than you do? Since you are a wealth hating lib I'm assuming you give all your wealth to the government to be redistributed fairly, right? I think we know the answer.
Strangely, I have no problem with Dem rich who want to pay higher, fairer taxes and for the money to be used to improve the lives of ALL Americans, dupe of the GREEDY IDIOT BRAINWASHING LYING CHEATING GOP rich, dupe. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

You libs were in charge 16 of those 30 years. You libs are largely in charge of colleges and universities. Its pretty clear you need to become a conservative.
The hell we were, dupe. We were in charge for for 24 days in session under Obama and got ACA, biggest social reform since FDR. All the New BS GOP cares about is tax cuts for the rich and giant corps and deregging for another corrupt bubble regular people can pay for AGAIN, dupe. So THEY only need 51 votes. DUHHHH....
 
Your hatred of wealthy successful people is noted, but why? Do you think its unfair that some people have more than you do? Since you are a wealth hating lib I'm assuming you give all your wealth to the government to be redistributed fairly, right? I think we know the answer.
Strangely, I have no problem with Dem rich who want to pay higher, fairer taxes and for the money to be used to improve the lives of ALL Americans, dupe of the GREEDY IDIOT BRAINWASHING LYING CHEATING GOP rich, dupe. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

You libs were in charge 16 of those 30 years. You libs are largely in charge of colleges and universities. Its pretty clear you need to become a conservative.

Why is that conservatives are wholly incapable of coming up with their own system of colleges and universities,

if they're so dissatisfied with the status quo?

I know why. Because conservatives are useless..

^^^ look a tolerant liberal who want's to compromise.

Get off your lazy self serving asses and start your own universities.
Problem is, well educated people aren't GOPers, just a-holes and their chumps.
 
Trump is proposing tax cuts for millionaires so why not for working class teachers?
He's proposing tax cuts for corporations. They are owned by millionaires, but also by plenty of everyday people like your grandma. Her pension is invested in the stock of corporations. By taxing their profits, you are only hurting grandma.

You guys do not care about the aged as shown in the new GOP HI plan, and do not pretend you do.
 
That's why we need to get the government out of the business of schooling.

Then the poor wouldn't get educated, which of course is what you want.
We want the poor off your democrat plantation....that's why we are against your schools......

You want them to go without education if they can't pay for it.
 
I'm sure they mean state income tax not federal. It sounds like a good idea to give any hard working state or local employee a tax break but wouldn't you think they would start with Police Officers? Ca. is second in the Nation with Police Officer line of duty deaths (10 in 2016). How many teachers were killed in the line of duty?

Be careful. That number is probably higher than you think!
 
I'm sure they mean state income tax not federal. It sounds like a good idea to give any hard working state or local employee a tax break but wouldn't you think they would start with Police Officers? Ca. is second in the Nation with Police Officer line of duty deaths (10 in 2016). How many teachers were killed in the line of duty?

No, the teachers unions are a HUGE cash cow for the Democratic party, hence they get special favors and treatment. The poor and middle class get to pay for it.

You education bashers are all alike. You know that the unions do not get tax dollars, but you all act like they do. Do they give campaign contributions to the Democrats? Of course they do! The reason for that is simple. Conservatives usually cover their ears with their hands and scream "Lalalalalalalalala" every time the subject is brought up. When conservatives stop trying to throw the baby out with the bath water, maybe some unions will slip a little money their way. Until then, libs will get all of the union money like they do from most unions.
 
I'm sure they mean state income tax not federal. It sounds like a good idea to give any hard working state or local employee a tax break but wouldn't you think they would start with Police Officers? Ca. is second in the Nation with Police Officer line of duty deaths (10 in 2016). How many teachers were killed in the line of duty?

No, the teachers unions are a HUGE cash cow for the Democratic party, hence they get special favors and treatment. The poor and middle class get to pay for it.

lol, like the Republicans don't get even more money from anti-union interests.

Why do you deflect, are you ashamed of how Dem's and the teachers unions rip off the poor and middle class tax payers?

Why are you too retarded to know what is or isn't a deflection?

Lets get back to Dem politicians ripping off taxpayers to bribe teachers unions. Did you know that Dem politicians guaranteed the teachers union pension fund would make at least 8% a year in the stock market, and that if it didn't taxpayers would gift them the money to make sure they go at least a 8% return? Guaranteed stock market profits, paid for by poor and middle class taxpayers. Sounds criminal doesn't it.

Maybe in your state you need to elect some conservatives to see that the funds are maintained and you won't need those guarantees.
 
Trump is proposing tax cuts for millionaires so why not for working class teachers?
He's proposing tax cuts for corporations. They are owned by millionaires, but also by plenty of everyday people like your grandma. Her pension is invested in the stock of corporations. By taxing their profits, you are only hurting grandma.

You guys do not care about the aged as shown in the new GOP HI plan, and do not pretend you do.
What the hell is the GOP HI Plan?
 
Oh yeah. Elected officials are non-partisan.

As if.

They are non partisan offices. You don't have to be affiliated with a party to vote for them. On our ballots in CA, their affiliation is not known without researching it.

They are people from the community. Doesn't get more non partisan than that.


That is beside the point. Elections are by nature partisan.

I live in Oakland, CA. Before every election, I receive mailers from the Democrat party with their recommendations for all of the elected postions, including School Board ones. I seriously doubt that Oakland is unique in this aspect.

That is your opinion and nothing more.


My opinion, informed by factual observations is much better informed than yours, you sad hag.

Actually, what I posted was fact. On a ballot, political affiliation is not listed for School Board offices. You posted your opinion on that fact.

Not having the political affiliation noted on the balllot is not the same as being non-partisan.

These are elected officials. They have endorsers, sponsors and contributors. They are political, and hence, partisan.
 
So the people that have public funded unions and are paid by tax payers. Deal with the elected people who are also payed by tax payers. And always, every year, without fail want more tax dollars and call anyone not paying taxes an asshole for not being patriotic, or if you won't pay more you hate children and want them to die, and we've been told there's nothing more patriotic than paying taxes, for the children. Don't think they should pay any of those taxes.

That's an interesting concept.
 
No surprise there. Liberals have always had that double standard. Everyone should pay except them. And teachers are some of the dumbest bastards on the planet. If anything their taxes should be raised and their pay should be cut (deeply).

Thank you! On behalf of teachers everywhere, let me be the first to say that you are obviously on the cutting edge of a room temperature IQ!
And It's still 50 points higher than yours.

Your IQ is room temp. Mine happens to have been tested at 136. If you have an IQ of 186, why aren't you out curing cancer or working on your second billion instead of posting on a message board?

Have a nice day!
Mine is 181 and you have no idea what I do or have done. But since you asked, I'm posting on a message board because I'm semi retired. I work a little just to have a routine. Why are you here? Unemployed?
181? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: 162 is a perfect score. Oh wait...you added a one....your IQ is really 81.
As opposed to yours, which is 18?
 
Thank you! On behalf of teachers everywhere, let me be the first to say that you are obviously on the cutting edge of a room temperature IQ!
And It's still 50 points higher than yours.

Your IQ is room temp. Mine happens to have been tested at 136. If you have an IQ of 186, why aren't you out curing cancer or working on your second billion instead of posting on a message board?

Have a nice day!
Mine is 181 and you have no idea what I do or have done. But since you asked, I'm posting on a message board because I'm semi retired. I work a little just to have a routine. Why are you here? Unemployed?
181? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: 162 is a perfect score. Oh wait...you added a one....your IQ is really 81.



You took out the wrong 1.
I'm sure you probably scored well on the one that asks questions about sexual deviancy, like SCAT? Isn't that right, Mr. Dripping Poop?

Unkotare
unkotare \ woon-ko-ta-re \ , noun;

Japanese. Roughly translated as dripping poop. This word is used to describe a pornographic genre commonly known as Scat.

 
I find it odd that I am not allowed to make judgements about you, yet you feel free to slander my profession at will with your lies and misconceptions.
Slander? Lies? Sorry pal, but your profession has a track record of failure. Teachers could not survive in the real world. If it weren't for the government (and taxpayers who actually WORK for a living), you would be on welfare.



The only failure is your ability to recognize the real world over some deep-seated psychological trauma that caused you to be so ignorant.

I feel sorry for you. I really do!

Nice try, but more people agree with my assessment than with yours.
 

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