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Prove it.The other option is to stay right here and stand up for Constitutionally limited government.
You can stand all you want, safety net is not going anywhere and conservatives that propose the phase out of these programs are in for a lifetime of rejection by America and developed world in general.
May as well pack up if you can't stand it.
It's OK that you get handouts. If you're so meaningless that you have to have it to live, I can live without it. Understand one thing. Even with you having it handed to you and it be taken from me, I'll still have way more than you ever will.
Oh fuck you, I happen to work, make good money, and pay a lot of taxes.
Not everyone in this world is an asshole like yourself that just can't stand the thought of some of your taxes going to help someone.
www.rollcall.com/news/obama_says_hell_veto_any_legislation_blocking_iran_deal-242813-1.htmlPrior to many things coming to his desk that had nothing to do with Obamacare, he said he would veto them.
Why shouldn't Obamacare go away? I have proposed a solution where both of us get what we want completely and it doesn't involve the government at all when it comes to healthcare. Do you agree?
Republicans have show an open disdain and an unwillingness to work with our President. That is why they could not get a simple thing like Keystone passed.
Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little
Yeah, the we won now sit down and STFU attitude he has is a willingness to work. When he has indicated he'd veto something before it's ever written because it includes something he doesn't like, that's not willing to work.
Well here is your problem
When you slip "kill Obamacare" or "kill Planned Parenthood" language into every bill, it may please your batshit crazy base but the bill is DOA
The problem is the claim of a veto is made BEFORE the content of the bill is written.
Show me one
When left to their own devices businesses usually tell their fellow citizens to go to hell.Prove it.The other option is to stay right here and stand up for Constitutionally limited government.
You can stand all you want, safety net is not going anywhere and conservatives that propose the phase out of these programs are in for a lifetime of rejection by America and developed world in general.
May as well pack up if you can't stand it.
It's OK that you get handouts. If you're so meaningless that you have to have it to live, I can live without it. Understand one thing. Even with you having it handed to you and it be taken from me, I'll still have way more than you ever will.
Oh fuck you, I happen to work, make good money, and pay a lot of taxes.
Not everyone in this world is an asshole like yourself that just can't stand the thought of some of your taxes going to help someone.
What I can't stand are people like you that say you care then think showing it involves forcing others to fund it. If you cared, you'd do on your own without being told and not involved the government. Why do you need the government telling you that you need to do something you already say needs to be done? Proves you don't care.
When left to their own devices businesses usually tell their fellow citizens to go to hell.Prove it.The other option is to stay right here and stand up for Constitutionally limited government.
You can stand all you want, safety net is not going anywhere and conservatives that propose the phase out of these programs are in for a lifetime of rejection by America and developed world in general.
May as well pack up if you can't stand it.
It's OK that you get handouts. If you're so meaningless that you have to have it to live, I can live without it. Understand one thing. Even with you having it handed to you and it be taken from me, I'll still have way more than you ever will.
Oh fuck you, I happen to work, make good money, and pay a lot of taxes.
Not everyone in this world is an asshole like yourself that just can't stand the thought of some of your taxes going to help someone.
What I can't stand are people like you that say you care then think showing it involves forcing others to fund it. If you cared, you'd do on your own without being told and not involved the government. Why do you need the government telling you that you need to do something you already say needs to be done? Proves you don't care.
Prove it.
What I can't stand are people like you that say you care then think showing it involves forcing others to fund it. If you cared, you'd do on your own without being told and not involved the government. Why do you need the government telling you that you need to do something you already say needs to be done? Proves you don't care.
I disagree as most of today's economic misery has been caused by businesses.When left to their own devices businesses usually tell their fellow citizens to go to hell.Prove it.You can stand all you want, safety net is not going anywhere and conservatives that propose the phase out of these programs are in for a lifetime of rejection by America and developed world in general.
May as well pack up if you can't stand it.
It's OK that you get handouts. If you're so meaningless that you have to have it to live, I can live without it. Understand one thing. Even with you having it handed to you and it be taken from me, I'll still have way more than you ever will.
Oh fuck you, I happen to work, make good money, and pay a lot of taxes.
Not everyone in this world is an asshole like yourself that just can't stand the thought of some of your taxes going to help someone.
What I can't stand are people like you that say you care then think showing it involves forcing others to fund it. If you cared, you'd do on your own without being told and not involved the government. Why do you need the government telling you that you need to do something you already say needs to be done? Proves you don't care.
I'm not talking about businesses but individuals like antontoo that say they care then think supporting someone else being force to fund it makes them compassionate. If they cared as much as they say, they'd do what they say needs to be done without being told and with their own money.
That doesn't include social security, retard. I referenced MEANS-TESTED programs. Do you know what that means.
It's clear you don't know the difference between Contributory programs (Social Security, Medicare) and Non-Contributory programs (the 13 where someone doesn't contribute to the pot from which they draw).
BS. I said for months that fees have to be counted to get the poor into the 20% range. At any rate, the point holds- much of the middle class pays more than the richest in all taxes and fees, the fed income tax obsession of GOP is brainwashed nonsense, and the middle class and the country are going to hell under this Reaganism.Did you miss the corrupt Boooshie DEPRESSION? That's what those extra figures are for...STILL 3-400 BILLION for assistance for victims of most recent GOP corrupt depression, 7-8 TRILLION in all...Great job!What amazes me is the hypocrisy of the right. After eight years of complaining about the ever growing national debt, every Republican candidate immidiately calls for budgets that slash taxes on the wealthy to record low levels. Every Republican plan added at least 10 trillion to our debt
Not a single Republican plan would cut our debt
Last time I looked, almost $10 trillion of that debt was added during Obama's 8 years.
That assumes they weren't already getting it before Bush.
I don't believe what you SAY. You already said EVERYONE pays a between a certain percentage in taxes then provided a graph that disproved your own claim.
The difference being that the DEMS are not a lockstep disgrace, always have 4If control means 200+ filibusters in 2 years, dupe. lol. Actual control about 30 days in session, all spent on ACA. D'OH!The House and Senate are run by the republicans....they control the spending.....Shrub left a $1.2 trillion annual deficit for FY2008 and destroyed the whole economy. Obama cut the annual deficit in half.Your point?
Where has a single Trump economic policy reduced our national debt? Republicans whined like little bitches about the debt, yet have no plans to reduce it
Proves your claim incorrect.
Trump hasn't been President. Obama has and the debt has almost doubled.
Actually, the facts are somewhat different ... Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate.
Control means having a majority just like you consider Republicans having that majority as having control. Typical Liberal double standard where the same conditions mean something different when Democrats fail to do anything.
Idiot. The graph shows that the rich don't pay their fair share, despite you dupe's obsession with the poor, who pay around 20% in all taxes and fees, as I've been saying for many months. EVERYONE pays between about 20% and 30% in ALL taxes and fees, and the middle class and the country continue to be slowly ruined. Great job, New BS GOP and you silly brainwashed functional morons.Sig is more facts than you've heard in years, dupe.see sig
So, you invoke your nonsense in your own signature, and we're supposed to be somehow impressed by that?
Consistently, throughout this thread, your comments have been challenged, and you have just as consistently failed to respond to the challenge.
Frankly, you're getting b-o-r-i-n-g.
You posted a chart yesterday claiming it said something it didn't. The numbers you said it showed did not do that. Rather than being stand up about it and admit you were wrong, something everyone knows Liberal don't do, you tried to make an excuse and add something to it the chart didn't show nor that you could prove.
nothing like dodging the issue .. thats all you repub-lie-tards know how to do
No they don't. A union ensures that the workforce is getting a fair share of the wealth they create
$50 trillion in wealth has been added to our economy since 2009. Workers saw very little of that. Strong unions would have ensured it
Fair share? Tell me how much is your fair share of someone else's money?
It is the workers creating that wealth. Because their ability to collectively negotiate, they see less and less of that wealth they generate
There's your mistake ... workers don't "create" the wealth. They work for a wage .... they are a tool the employer uses to create wealth, no different than a hammer, or a printing press. Are you suggesting we should pay hammers a 'living wage', not? What do you think the 'living wage' is for a printing press these days.
If you are not a rich guy I dont understand your views. Socialists fought to change the working week to humanistic hours and to improve work environment for workers. Before even children had to work in factories hard menial labour. The minimum wage is another improvement, you cant pay 1$ a hour for hard work thats inhumane. There needs to be regulations or capitalists would eat the small people.
Socialists worked hard to get those that don't want to work something for nothing. Do you think those that own businesses and make lots doing it work just 40 hours week?
Paying someone with $1/hour skills more than $1/hour is inhumane.
Capitalism is an incentive for people to do better and improve themselves financially. Socialism is an incentive for people that want something for nothing to have more handed to them than they could earn based on their poor work ethic.
it is not what "I" think. It is what this democracy, through political process thinks.
Americans have long rejected your ass-holism and decided through the political process that yes we do need government programs to help the needy and it will be financed by taxing income.
Don't like this social arrangement? Pack your bags and go live somewhere else.
The spending that helps the nonrich, yes.Republicans have had total control of Congress for two years.....why haven't they reduced the debt like they promised?Obama is not running, Trump is
If Republicans are as upset about debt as they claim ...why do none of their plans reduce it?
Trump isn't President. Obama is.
Are you saying that something that hasn't been tried fails because the results haven't occurred?
Because Obama has vetoed every program designed to cut government spending .... check it out.
You mean handing freeloaders something for nothing.
it is not what "I" think. It is what this democracy, through political process thinks.
Americans have long rejected your ass-holism and decided through the political process that yes we do need government programs to help the needy and it will be financed by taxing income.
Don't like this social arrangement? Pack your bags and go live somewhere else.
If you rob Peter to pay Paul, the Paul's of your society generally have no objection.
Our founders never intended our federal government to be our adult parents. That's why they listed the powers of Congress illustrating what the federal government was supposed to do for it's people.
The more power you give to the federal government, the less power citizens have. Any government large enough to give you everything you want is large enough to take everything you have.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
Thomas Jefferson, annals of Congress, 1794
Republicans have show an open disdain and an unwillingness to work with our President. That is why they could not get a simple thing like Keystone passed.
Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little
Not power but assistance to unfortunate citizens...We can't just go west anymore, ya know. Times have changed, dingbats.it is not what "I" think. It is what this democracy, through political process thinks.
Americans have long rejected your ass-holism and decided through the political process that yes we do need government programs to help the needy and it will be financed by taxing income.
Don't like this social arrangement? Pack your bags and go live somewhere else.
If you rob Peter to pay Paul, the Paul's of your society generally have no objection.
Our founders never intended our federal government to be our adult parents. That's why they listed the powers of Congress illustrating what the federal government was supposed to do for it's people.
The more power you give to the federal government, the less power citizens have. Any government large enough to give you everything you want is large enough to take everything you have.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
Thomas Jefferson, annals of Congress, 1794
Funding the non-rich means more social mobility, for example when attending college, while now only rich can attend college.
