Can the right prove their is a border crisis using facts and statistics?

[Faun]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Poor, Sarah Sanders, bless her heart. She tried. She really, really tried...

 

[IM2]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Hilarious how Trump has Democrats screaming for open borders as the 2020 campaign kicks off.

Which democrat would that be?

 

[IM2]

Illegals killed yet another American citizen, fact!

Also fact: a legal citizen killed another legal citizen, and again, and again, and again....

Hmm that’s weird. White people are committing murder AND they are legal?! Omg. I didn’t see that coming.

Your stupid deflection is dumb, dummy. Would it be okay for terrorists to come over here and kill people too? /mocking sarcasm Your new screen name is TraitorBilly.

Lol don’t you think it’s funny you said “illegals killed yet another American citizen”? You’re of course referencing the most recent case I suppose. You’re referencing a story about one guy. Meaning, the frequency at which illegal immigrants commit murder is far lower than the rate at which US citizens commit murder. Go ahead and compare the murder rate between legal, white citizens to that of the murder rate of illegal immigrants.

Not one damn American should have been killed by illegals you dickhead.

Not one damn American should have been killed by another American you dickhead.

 

[Kondor3]

...Can you understand why they came here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they stayed here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they worked here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they drive here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Would you have done the same thing?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...If they haven't caused any damage...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

------------------------

A minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens are now present upon United States soil without our express prior consent.

Republicans have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to exploit cheap labor; damned-near slave labor, in some cases.

Democrats have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to cultivate future generations of grateful Democratic voters.

The time for draconian measures to counter this cultural suicidal insanity is now upon us.

Enjoy.

 

[candycorn]

...Can you understand why they came here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they stayed here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they worked here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they drive here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Would you have done the same thing?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...If they haven't caused any damage...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

------------------------

A minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens are now present upon United States soil without our express prior consent.

Republicans have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to exploit cheap labor; damned-near slave labor, in some cases.

Democrats have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to cultivate future generations of grateful Democratic voters.

The time for draconian measures to counter this cultural suicidal insanity is now upon us.

Enjoy.

Endorsing "draconian" measures is a sign of early onset idiocy. I hope we caught it in time. Nah; not really...we didn't as your post indicates.

 

[Kondor3]

...Can you understand why they came here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they stayed here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they worked here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they drive here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Would you have done the same thing?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...If they haven't caused any damage...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

------------------------

A minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens are now present upon United States soil without our express prior consent.

Republicans have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to exploit cheap labor; damned-near slave labor, in some cases.

Democrats have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to cultivate future generations of grateful Democratic voters.

The time for draconian measures to counter this cultural suicidal insanity is now upon us.

Enjoy.

Endorsing "draconian" measures is a sign of early onset idiocy. I hope we caught it in time. Nah; not really...we didn't as your post indicates.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

Violating United States immigration law has consequences, which are now, fortunately, being enforced, strictly.

Enjoy.

 

[candycorn]

...Can you understand why they came here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they stayed here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they worked here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they drive here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Would you have done the same thing?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...If they haven't caused any damage...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

------------------------

A minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens are now present upon United States soil without our express prior consent.

Republicans have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to exploit cheap labor; damned-near slave labor, in some cases.

Democrats have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to cultivate future generations of grateful Democratic voters.

The time for draconian measures to counter this cultural suicidal insanity is now upon us.

Enjoy.

Endorsing "draconian" measures is a sign of early onset idiocy. I hope we caught it in time. Nah; not really...we didn't as your post indicates.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

And the punishment for that is deportation; right?

 

[danielpalos]

Lol don’t you think it’s funny you said “illegals killed yet another American citizen”? You’re of course referencing the most recent case I suppose. You’re referencing a story about one guy. Meaning, the frequency at which illegal immigrants commit murder is far lower than the rate at which US citizens commit murder. Go ahead and compare the murder rate between legal, white, murdering citizens to that of the murder rate by illegal immigrants.

Well moron, since you can't accurately tell me how many illegals there are in the US, you are incapable of spouting a rate. Further you can't properly ID how many murders are committed by illegals. Securing the border means a safer US for citizens and legal immigrants and a better economic future too.

Lol the border is already secure and net migration from Mexico is at zero.

Then why is there over 20 million illegals in this country.

lousy management? we don't have an immigration clause we have a naturalization clause.

 

[Kondor3]

...Can you understand why they came here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they stayed here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they worked here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they drive here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Would you have done the same thing?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...If they haven't caused any damage...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

------------------------

A minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens are now present upon United States soil without our express prior consent.

Republicans have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to exploit cheap labor; damned-near slave labor, in some cases.

Democrats have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to cultivate future generations of grateful Democratic voters.

The time for draconian measures to counter this cultural suicidal insanity is now upon us.

Enjoy.

Endorsing "draconian" measures is a sign of early onset idiocy. I hope we caught it in time. Nah; not really...we didn't as your post indicates.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

And the punishment for that is deportation; right?

Deportation is a REactive measure.

And that is righteous, for those already here.

However, we are also becoming far more PROactive; dealing in preventive measures.

And it's the PROactive measures that have got your (collective) panties in a bunch.

Great fun to watch unfold, as your (collective) teenage angst grows by leaps and bounds; ya'll sound funny when you howl and scream and whine.

 

[miketx]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Filthy traitors like you do not accept facts or statistics.

 

[IM2]

...Can you understand why they came here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they stayed here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they worked here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they drive here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Would you have done the same thing?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...If they haven't caused any damage...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

------------------------

A minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens are now present upon United States soil without our express prior consent.

Republicans have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to exploit cheap labor; damned-near slave labor, in some cases.

Democrats have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to cultivate future generations of grateful Democratic voters.

The time for draconian measures to counter this cultural suicidal insanity is now upon us.

Enjoy.

Endorsing "draconian" measures is a sign of early onset idiocy. I hope we caught it in time. Nah; not really...we didn't as your post indicates.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

And the punishment for that is deportation; right?

Deportation is a REactive measure.

And that is righteous, for those already here.

However, we are also becoming far more PROactive; dealing in preventive measures.

And it's the PROactive measures that have got your (collective panties) in a bunch.

Great fun to watch unfold, as your (collective) teenage angst grows by leaps and bounds; ya'll sound funny when you howl and scream and whine.

So when other countries start getting Proactive with American citizens and business because of Trumps racist cruelty, you might then understand just how much it does matter.

 

[IM2]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Filthy traitors like you do not accept facts or statistics.

The only fax you know abut was that old machine.

 

[candycorn]

...Can you understand why they came here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they stayed here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they worked here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they drive here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Would you have done the same thing?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...If they haven't caused any damage...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

------------------------

A minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens are now present upon United States soil without our express prior consent.

Republicans have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to exploit cheap labor; damned-near slave labor, in some cases.

Democrats have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to cultivate future generations of grateful Democratic voters.

The time for draconian measures to counter this cultural suicidal insanity is now upon us.

Enjoy.

Endorsing "draconian" measures is a sign of early onset idiocy. I hope we caught it in time. Nah; not really...we didn't as your post indicates.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

And the punishment for that is deportation; right?

Deportation is a REactive measure.

And that is righteous, for those already here.

However, we are also becoming far more PROactive; dealing in preventive measures.

And it's the PROactive measures that have got your (collective) panties in a bunch.

Great fun to watch unfold, as your (collective) teenage angst grows by leaps and bounds; ya'll sound funny when you howl and scream and whine.

Well most people who are here illegally arrive here legally so your wall will do zilch to affect them. Those are the facts and they are not in dispute but whatever.

We deport those who are here illegally (which I support of course). Then what? Can they re-apply?

 

[Kondor3]

...Well most people who are here illegally arrive here legally so your wall will do zilch to affect them....

It's not my wall. Personally, I think The Wall is a stupid waste of taxpayer money. But others, in power, do not believe that is the case.

...Those are the facts and they are not in dispute but whatever...

If The Wall stops 2,000,000 or 4,000,000 or 6,000,000 of those 12,000,000, and discourages future waves, that may be enough.

...We deport those who are here illegally (which I support of course). Then what? Can they re-apply?

What does US Immigration Law say? I don't know. And, frankly, it's immaterial to the need for deportation.

Self-deportation is best... on their dime... make 'em WANT to go home... make it too tough to "make it" here any longer.

De-incentivize the little bastards... for now, and in future.

 

[Kondor3]

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

------------------------

A minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens are now present upon United States soil without our express prior consent.

Republicans have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to exploit cheap labor; damned-near slave labor, in some cases.

Democrats have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to cultivate future generations of grateful Democratic voters.

The time for draconian measures to counter this cultural suicidal insanity is now upon us.

Enjoy.

Endorsing "draconian" measures is a sign of early onset idiocy. I hope we caught it in time. Nah; not really...we didn't as your post indicates.

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

And the punishment for that is deportation; right?

Deportation is a REactive measure.

And that is righteous, for those already here.

However, we are also becoming far more PROactive; dealing in preventive measures.

And it's the PROactive measures that have got your (collective panties) in a bunch.

Great fun to watch unfold, as your (collective) teenage angst grows by leaps and bounds; ya'll sound funny when you howl and scream and whine.

So when other countries start getting Proactive with American citizens and business because of Trumps racist cruelty, you might then understand just how much it does matter.

Blah, blah, blah... endless phukking blah... I suggest you examine the Immigration Laws of some of those other countries... including Mexico.

 

[miketx]

No they cannot. All they can rely on is that Trump and Fox News says there is. Of course, how you define a crisis really just depends. Do you think it is a national crisis that ANY illegal immigrants crossing over is a crisis? It’s certainly a priority to limit this, but if you think it is a national crisis simply because it happens to some degree, then you are a snowflake of epic proportions. Illegal immigration has always been a thing. The rate at which it is currently happening does not make it a crisis because migration from Mexico has been declining since the 2008 recession. In fact, Mexicans are leaving the US at about the same rate lol.

So here is the challenge for republicans to prove there is a border crisis. What facts, statistics, and trends do you have that suggest there is a “border crisis”? Again, just because illegal immigration hasn’t stopped yet, it doesn’t make it a crisis. Illegal immigration has always been a thing regardless of who is president.

Mexican Immigrants in the United States

Filthy traitors like you do not accept facts or statistics.

The only fax you know abut was that old machine.

Run from the cops liar.

 

[dblack]

NO

 

[danielpalos]

...Can you understand why they came here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they stayed here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they worked here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Can you understand why they drive here?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...Would you have done the same thing?...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

...If they haven't caused any damage...

Doesn't matter. They are here in violation of United States law.

------------------------

A minimum of 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens are now present upon United States soil without our express prior consent.

Republicans have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to exploit cheap labor; damned-near slave labor, in some cases.

Democrats have allowed them to come-in and stay in order to cultivate future generations of grateful Democratic voters.

The time for draconian measures to counter this cultural suicidal insanity is now upon us.

Enjoy.

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. We have an express establishment clause for naturalization, at the expense of any implied power.

 

[Weatherman2020]

We've had essentially the same border we've had since what, 1960 or so? In that same amount of time, the wealth of this nation has increased by massive leaps and bounds. We have incredibly high literacy, incredibly high functionality, incredibly high levels of technological achievements, artistic exploits that are world-class, industries that create more revenue than many other nation's entire GDP.

It would seem to me that if the Illegal aliens were sucking out a trillion dollars every decade from the country and contributing nothing; our dominance in the financial, technological, military, and even cultural realms would not have been possible over the past 60 years or so. So I don't think there is much of a crisis on the border.

That being said, if you're here illegally, you should be deported. I would be for giving an illegal alien a place near the front of the line if they have been here for a while, have worked steadily, been on the right side of the law in all other areas, Saying "go to the back of the line" seems silly.

So why have lines it you can break the law and get to the front?

.

If you’re hiring someone to work in your company, would you hire the first person in line or would you perhaps look for someone who has been in your industry, been successful, and dependable? If we’re going to let people into the country, I think it’s a better ideas to have people who are contributors vs those who may not be as industrious. The first guy in line may be the next Bill Gates. He may also be the next mass murderer. Seems like it’s a no-brainer that if someone has been here a while, has not otherwise broken any laws, has raised a family perhaps, shown up everyday for work, etc… they are the types of people you would want to be citizens not just the first applicant.

So how many laws and how many times can they break them and still qualify to be special? It's illegal to enter, it's illegal to remain, it's illegal to work and in most states it's illegal to drive. Every time they do those they are in violation of the law. The longer they're here the more times they violate various laws, and you think that should be rewarded. What alternate universe do you live in?

Can you understand why they came here?
Can you understand why they stayed here?
Can you understand why they worked here?
Can you understand why they drive here?

Would you have done the same thing? The answer is yes. But we've established you have zero Christian values --remember when you hoped someone close to me was murdered?

If they haven't caused any damage; why not take a known quantity over an unknown quantity? Most would. Unless they are unforgivably stupid; such as yourself.

Despite what you leftards state, America is the greatest nation on earth.
My Grandfather, an immigrant, fought for America in WW1 and WW2.
He came here legally, like so many millions of others have.

 

[BluesLegend]

Illegals killed yet another American citizen, fact!

I feel more safe around illegals than US born thugs and there are millions of them....Illegals are mainly working 2 jobs to support their families and extended families back home....The thugs that were born here, milk the system and will rob you and shoot you in the face...I don't buy this bullshit that the orange is trying to sell....And he doesn't give a fuck about who kills who, he is doing this all for himself, so he can brag non stop.
If the orange clown really was worried about american lives, he would've first stopped the government shutdown, because america safety is on the line, since federal workers are not getting paid....he should also look into why Americans shoot each others by the thousands and the tens of thousands die each year from guns.
I've lived in Los angeles 20 years now, i'm yet to see an illegal begging or stealing....most crimes i've witnessed were committed by US citizens. Is number one rule of all illegal immigrants don't get in trouble with the law.

Your pants are on fire