Cancel Student Debt

[AzogtheDefiler]

The problem with this entire idea is that it gives debtors the idea that they don't have to pay what they owe as the taxpayers will bail them out if they don't.

Further, it gives schools no motivation to rein in costs, as they can just raise tuition and the people will have no problem with the new price as the taxpayers will be picking up the tab in the end

Why is it okay to bail out Wall Street, and Auto Companies, and rich people who don't need it, but not our children???

Man folks have some fucked up priorities.

Wall St and auto companies paid their debt back.

The rich did not.

Trumps tax giveaway to the rich should have been used instead for student debt. Then the money would have been returned to the economy because those folks who had to borrow money for college generally don't spend it on stocks and tax shelters or stock buy backs for corporations. They spend it on food, clothes, cars, etc.

There was no tax giveaway to the rich.

No tax giveaway for the rich?

Well other than that massive multi-trillion dollar tax cut eh?

Everyone got the tax cut. Even you. Do not steal the thread with your Leftist ramblings please. Stay on the college debt forgiveness and Sanders dumbassery topic

 

[gipper]

So because some paid it, everyone must pay it. That is illogical.

Time for debt forgiveness of ALL student loans. Examples of Debt forgiveness date back to biblical times.

Wake the fuck up. Stop being a selfish prick.

There are exactly two steps in the student loan issue.

Take out the loan.
Pay it back.

Of course, if you like screwing over those who play by the rules, then it is YOU that needs to wake the fuck up.

There is a long history of debt forgiveness. It is time to forgive student loan debt.

The government and the leftists running our universities have screwed young people far too long.

You have got to be kidding me. Take a finance class.

Yes to the indoctrinated, logic and fairness are difficult concepts to comprehend.

True. Fairness is the ability to not punish those who played by the rules with having to also pay for those who did not play by the rules.

Logic is knowing that if you reward bad behavior, you'll get much more of it.

Who is not playing by the rules?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

There are exactly two steps in the student loan issue.

Take out the loan.
Pay it back.

Of course, if you like screwing over those who play by the rules, then it is YOU that needs to wake the fuck up.

There is a long history of debt forgiveness. It is time to forgive student loan debt.

The government and the leftists running our universities have screwed young people far too long.

You have got to be kidding me. Take a finance class.

Yes to the indoctrinated, logic and fairness are difficult concepts to comprehend.

True. Fairness is the ability to not punish those who played by the rules with having to also pay for those who did not play by the rules.

Logic is knowing that if you reward bad behavior, you'll get much more of it.

Who is not playing by the rules?

LOL so no you’re playing coy? Sad

 

[gipper]

Sanders just said it again. Does he realize how stupid and unfair it is for those who paid their debt fairly and those who never took on debt or decided to bypass college for another career. That dude is a complete moron.

So because some paid it, everyone must pay it. That is illogical.

Time for debt forgiveness of ALL student loans. Examples of Debt forgiveness date back to biblical times.

Wake the fuck up. Stop being a selfish prick.

There are exactly two steps in the student loan issue.

Take out the loan.
Pay it back.

Of course, if you like screwing over those who play by the rules, then it is YOU that needs to wake the fuck up.

There is a long history of debt forgiveness. It is time to forgive student loan debt.

The government and the leftists running our universities have screwed young people far too long.

There is a history of mass murder by the government too. Shall we continue with that history or should we say, "No, that isn't the right thing to do".

Oh good God, don’t be stupid.

Why do you support harming your fellow citizens, while the 1% get sweetheart deals from Uncle?

The 1% have socialism and the rest of us are on our own with capitalism, amazingly many duped Americans think this wonderful.

 

[sartre play]

I find the whole thing very confusing, the 1st time I went to college it was free, the last time I went it was very affordable for a middle income person to go(not talking about top tier schools). how did it get so out of hand? anyone know?

 

[gipper]

There is a long history of debt forgiveness. It is time to forgive student loan debt.

The government and the leftists running our universities have screwed young people far too long.

You have got to be kidding me. Take a finance class.

Yes to the indoctrinated, logic and fairness are difficult concepts to comprehend.

True. Fairness is the ability to not punish those who played by the rules with having to also pay for those who did not play by the rules.

Logic is knowing that if you reward bad behavior, you'll get much more of it.

Who is not playing by the rules?

LOL so no you’re playing coy? Sad

You too?

Young people are playing by the rules. They are forced to pay exorbitant tuition for a deficient education, then they are extorted by excessive and unjustly high interest rates on their loans.

Again, who isn’t playing by the rules?

 

[gipper]

I find the whole thing very confusing, the 1st time I went to college it was free, the last time I went it was very affordable for a middle income person to go(not talking about top tier schools). how did it get so out of hand? anyone know?

It’s not confusing in the least. It’s a fucking scam.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Sanders just said it again. Does he realize how stupid and unfair it is for those who paid their debt fairly and those who never took on debt or decided to bypass college for another career. That dude is a complete moron.

So because some paid it, everyone must pay it. That is illogical.

Time for debt forgiveness of ALL student loans. Examples of Debt forgiveness date back to biblical times.

Wake the fuck up. Stop being a selfish prick.

There are exactly two steps in the student loan issue.

Take out the loan.
Pay it back.

Of course, if you like screwing over those who play by the rules, then it is YOU that needs to wake the fuck up.

There is a long history of debt forgiveness. It is time to forgive student loan debt.

The government and the leftists running our universities have screwed young people far too long.

There is a history of mass murder by the government too. Shall we continue with that history or should we say, "No, that isn't the right thing to do".

Oh good God, don’t be stupid.

Why do you support harming your fellow citizens, while the 1% get sweetheart deals from Uncle?

The 1% have socialism and the rest of us are on our own with capitalism, amazingly many duped Americans think this wonderful.

Speak for yourself. I am Far from rich but the tax cuts have helped me and my family.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You have got to be kidding me. Take a finance class.

Yes to the indoctrinated, logic and fairness are difficult concepts to comprehend.

True. Fairness is the ability to not punish those who played by the rules with having to also pay for those who did not play by the rules.

Logic is knowing that if you reward bad behavior, you'll get much more of it.

Who is not playing by the rules?

LOL so no you’re playing coy? Sad

You too?

Young people are playing by the rules. They are forced to pay exorbitant tuition for a deficient education, then they are extorted by excessive and unjustly high interest rates on their loans.

Again, who isn’t playing by the rules?

They don’t have to go to an expensive school. No one said that. They can learn a trade. What make believe world do you live in? I have Two kids and I tell them that everything is earned and nothing is given.

 

[Darkwind]

I guess when you lack depth and substance all you have left is trolling.

Better than the economic idiocy of "canceling" $1.5 trillion in debt.

The problem with this entire idea is that it gives debtors the idea that they don't have to pay what they owe as the taxpayers will bail them out if they don't.

Further, it gives schools no motivation to rein in costs, as they can just raise tuition and the people will have no problem with the new price as the taxpayers will be picking up the tab in the end

Why is it okay to bail out Wall Street, and Auto Companies, and rich people who don't need it, but not our children???

Man folks have some fucked up priorities.

Who said it was okay to bail out anyone?

Our government. Did you miss it? It was big news at the time.

You must have missed out on EVERYONE saying it was not okay. Simply because our government does it, does not mean it is right.

 

[Darkwind]

The problem with this entire idea is that it gives debtors the idea that they don't have to pay what they owe as the taxpayers will bail them out if they don't.

Further, it gives schools no motivation to rein in costs, as they can just raise tuition and the people will have no problem with the new price as the taxpayers will be picking up the tab in the end

Why is it okay to bail out Wall Street, and Auto Companies, and rich people who don't need it, but not our children???

Man folks have some fucked up priorities.

Wall St and auto companies paid their debt back.

The rich did not.

Trumps tax giveaway to the rich should have been used instead for student debt. Then the money would have been returned to the economy because those folks who had to borrow money for college generally don't spend it on stocks and tax shelters or stock buy backs for corporations. They spend it on food, clothes, cars, etc.

Define “the rich”

Not me.

I am not the right person to define rich. But I do know the richest people benefited the most by Trump's tax cuts

CHARTS: See How Much Of GOP Tax Cuts Will Go To The Middle Class

In truth, the people who pay the most in taxes benefit the most. EVERYONE who paid taxes benefited.

 

[Darkwind]

The problem with this entire idea is that it gives debtors the idea that they don't have to pay what they owe as the taxpayers will bail them out if they don't.

Further, it gives schools no motivation to rein in costs, as they can just raise tuition and the people will have no problem with the new price as the taxpayers will be picking up the tab in the end

Why is it okay to bail out Wall Street, and Auto Companies, and rich people who don't need it, but not our children???

Man folks have some fucked up priorities.

Wall St and auto companies paid their debt back.

The rich did not.

Trumps tax giveaway to the rich should have been used instead for student debt. Then the money would have been returned to the economy because those folks who had to borrow money for college generally don't spend it on stocks and tax shelters or stock buy backs for corporations. They spend it on food, clothes, cars, etc.

There was no tax giveaway to the rich.

No tax giveaway for the rich?

Well other than that massive multi-trillion dollar tax cut eh?

The tax cuts benefited EVERYONE who paid taxes. If someone paid 100 times more taxes, they received 100 times more benefit. That is the REAL definition of fair.

 

[Darkwind]

There are exactly two steps in the student loan issue.

Take out the loan.
Pay it back.

Of course, if you like screwing over those who play by the rules, then it is YOU that needs to wake the fuck up.

There is a long history of debt forgiveness. It is time to forgive student loan debt.

The government and the leftists running our universities have screwed young people far too long.

You have got to be kidding me. Take a finance class.

Yes to the indoctrinated, logic and fairness are difficult concepts to comprehend.

True. Fairness is the ability to not punish those who played by the rules with having to also pay for those who did not play by the rules.

Logic is knowing that if you reward bad behavior, you'll get much more of it.

Who is not playing by the rules?

People demanding that they don't pay back their student loans and putting the payments for their education on those who did pay back their loans.

 

[Darkwind]

Sanders just said it again. Does he realize how stupid and unfair it is for those who paid their debt fairly and those who never took on debt or decided to bypass college for another career. That dude is a complete moron.

So because some paid it, everyone must pay it. That is illogical.

Time for debt forgiveness of ALL student loans. Examples of Debt forgiveness date back to biblical times.

Wake the fuck up. Stop being a selfish prick.

There are exactly two steps in the student loan issue.

Take out the loan.
Pay it back.

Of course, if you like screwing over those who play by the rules, then it is YOU that needs to wake the fuck up.

There is a long history of debt forgiveness. It is time to forgive student loan debt.

The government and the leftists running our universities have screwed young people far too long.

There is a history of mass murder by the government too. Shall we continue with that history or should we say, "No, that isn't the right thing to do".

Oh good God, don’t be stupid.

Why do you support harming your fellow citizens, while the 1% get sweetheart deals from Uncle?

The 1% have socialism and the rest of us are on our own with capitalism, amazingly many duped Americans think this wonderful.

Who said I support any of that? Do NOT put words into My mouth or attribute to Me your false premises.

 

[Darkwind]

I find the whole thing very confusing, the 1st time I went to college it was free, the last time I went it was very affordable for a middle income person to go(not talking about top tier schools). how did it get so out of hand? anyone know?

the government took over the financing and the Universities decided that meant a free payday.

 

[Darkwind]

You have got to be kidding me. Take a finance class.

Yes to the indoctrinated, logic and fairness are difficult concepts to comprehend.

True. Fairness is the ability to not punish those who played by the rules with having to also pay for those who did not play by the rules.

Logic is knowing that if you reward bad behavior, you'll get much more of it.

Who is not playing by the rules?

LOL so no you’re playing coy? Sad

You too?

Young people are playing by the rules. They are forced to pay exorbitant tuition for a deficient education, then they are extorted by excessive and unjustly high interest rates on their loans.

Again, who isn’t playing by the rules?

Forced?

Who forced them? What weapon was used? Did they hold hostages?

 

[Darkwind]

You have got to be kidding me. Take a finance class.

Yes to the indoctrinated, logic and fairness are difficult concepts to comprehend.

True. Fairness is the ability to not punish those who played by the rules with having to also pay for those who did not play by the rules.

Logic is knowing that if you reward bad behavior, you'll get much more of it.

Who is not playing by the rules?

LOL so no you’re playing coy? Sad

You too?

Young people are playing by the rules. They are forced to pay exorbitant tuition for a deficient education, then they are extorted by excessive and unjustly high interest rates on their loans.

Again, who isn’t playing by the rules?

The rules are this:

You take a loan.
You pay the loan back.

There is no forgiveness unless your dead.

YOU want to change the rules.

People who do not pay back their loans when taxpayer money was used to make the loan, will now get to have their education for free while the people who paid their loans now get to pay for the loans of those who are whining about having to pay back loans that they entered into of their own free will.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Yeah, liberals never seem to care about how unfair their policies are for everyone else. My oldest daughter worked part-time in college, earned scholarships, and had to take out one relatively small student loan, which she managed to pay off three years later. Even though her student loan was rather small, it still took her three years to pay off.

Why aren't liberals demanding that colleges and universities lower their outrageous tuition rates and housing rates? Why don't they ever demand regulation of the textbook industry to get absurd textbook prices under control?

No, their solution is to just stick everyone else with the bill for people who knowingly took out student loans to get an education.

 

[sartre play]

To earn a living wage now you need more education, nothing wrong with trade schools. us old folks forget that in the past you could with a high school (or less) education get a job & work your way to the top. now you usually don't even get a chance to sell your self in person. maybe some part of school debt can be delayed until a young person gets on there feet. there are no blanket answers or simple solutions to some of the mess that we have allowed OUR government to get us in.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Typical anti-nationalist conservative. Fail to recognize the potential for elevating the nation through the education and empowerment of young adults. It's ridiculous that we don't have public universities in 2019. Those debt holders should have had a public option. Stubborn ass people like you are why it will be China leading the way some day.

Fail to recognize the potential for elevating the nation through the education and empowerment of young adults.

Is the gender studies major, working as a barista, paying off $80,000 in student debt, what you had in mind for elevating the nation as an empowered, educated young adult?

I guess when you lack depth and substance all you have left is trolling.

Better than the economic idiocy of "canceling" $1.5 trillion in debt.

The problem with this entire idea is that it gives debtors the idea that they don't have to pay what they owe as the taxpayers will bail them out if they don't.

Further, it gives schools no motivation to rein in costs, as they can just raise tuition and the people will have no problem with the new price as the taxpayers will be picking up the tab in the end

Why is it okay to bail out Wall Street, and Auto Companies, and rich people who don't need it, but not our children???

Man folks have some fucked up priorities.

Why is it okay to bail out Wall Street,

Wall Street paid back TARP, deadbeat students can do the same.