Capitalism/Neo-Conservativism/Neo-Liberalism vs. Socialism or Democratic Socialism

[PoliticalChic]

It is sad that our schools were unable to teach these different ideologies because of fear or lack of background in the days they were needed to be taught. Some universities did teach them, however, but the universities apparently missed many. Perhaps courses are still needed today?

Isn't this fun?

You post some inane, vague defense of FDR/totalitarianism.....I obliterate it.....and you change the subject!

Excellent.

You may be a little confused.

"You may be a little confused."

If that were the case, you might actually be able to point to any errors in my posts.

You can't, I'm not.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

It's not my fault you didn't bother to look. Get over it. The United States has a better economy than Norway and Sweden, my links proved that, the fact you didn't bother to actually look through the listed stats only shows that you're trolling and went into this argument knowing you were wrong.

Um...your links failed. Mightily....you might want to start again...

Actually, I just figured out why you're so confused. I thought about it allllll night. You can't figure out why the stats in the link prove America has a better economy because you have no idea what MAKES a good economy. For example, since Socialists are anti-capitalism, they think 0.3% growth is AMAZING, and high taxes are GREAT. They also think low productivity, barely any exports, barely any businesses are STUPENDOUS. They also believe that if everyone is inherently poor, it's a job well done. In short, Socialists are backwards, which explains why they're Socialists in the first place. If they understood economics, they wouldn't be Socialists. Destroying the economy of a Nation isn't a side effect, it's the goal.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's not my fault you didn't bother to look. Get over it. The United States has a better economy than Norway and Sweden, my links proved that, the fact you didn't bother to actually look through the listed stats only shows that you're trolling and went into this argument knowing you were wrong.

Um...your links failed. Mightily....you might want to start again...

Actually, I just figured out why you're so confused. I thought about it allllll night. You can't figure out why the stats in the link prove America has a better economy because you have no idea what MAKES a good economy. For example, since Socialists are anti-capitalism, they think 0.3% growth is AMAZING, and high taxes are GREAT. They also think low productivity, barely any exports, barely any businesses are STUPENDOUS. They also believe that if everyone is inherently poor, it's a job well done. In short, Socialists are backwards, which explains why they're Socialists in the first place. If they understood economics, they wouldn't be Socialists. Destroying the economy of a Nation isn't a side effect, it's the goal.

Socialists....they excuse the confiscation by referring to some imagined excess that earners don't really need.


Arthur Brooks puts it in a different perspective:

“Just for fun, find a Marxist professor- who scoffs at the idea that people work less if they lose the incentive of money- how he would feel if his name were not put on the academic articles he published.

Instead the articles would be published under the name of another academic who needed the recognition more than he did. After all…he would still have the satisfaction of having written the articles….

His completely reasonable response would be that he 'earned’ the right to have his name on those articles, and denying him that measure of earned success is viciously unfair. Exactly.”
Arthur Brooks, “The Road to Freedom,” p. 26.

 

[Moonglow]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is nice also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

 

[Moonglow]

It's not my fault you didn't bother to look. Get over it. The United States has a better economy than Norway and Sweden, my links proved that, the fact you didn't bother to actually look through the listed stats only shows that you're trolling and went into this argument knowing you were wrong.

Um...your links failed. Mightily....you might want to start again...

Actually, I just figured out why you're so confused. I thought about it allllll night. You can't figure out why the stats in the link prove America has a better economy because you have no idea what MAKES a good economy. For example, since Socialists are anti-capitalism, they think 0.3% growth is AMAZING, and high taxes are GREAT. They also think low productivity, barely any exports, barely any businesses are STUPENDOUS. They also believe that if everyone is inherently poor, it's a job well done. In short, Socialists are backwards, which explains why they're Socialists in the first place. If they understood economics, they wouldn't be Socialists. Destroying the economy of a Nation isn't a side effect, it's the goal.

Barely any exports is a very nondescript usage...

 

[Rustic]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is noce also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

Collectivism only works in the minds of drones… Fact

 

[Moonglow]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is noce also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

Collectivism only works in the minds of drones… Fact

Your meaning of collectivism is probably based on Marxist theories, mine are not...yet, when and if the money creation ever gives out, you'll find collectivism will come back into style..

 

[Rustic]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is noce also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

Collectivism only works in the minds of drones… Fact

Your meaning of collectivism is probably based on Marxist theories, mine are not...yet, when and if the money creation ever gives out, you'll find collectivism will come back into style..

The Problem with collectivism it's always the few that end up with the most… Fact

 

[Moonglow]

It is sad that our schools were unable to teach these different ideologies because of fear or lack of background in the days they were needed to be taught. Some universities did teach them, however, but the universities apparently missed many. Perhaps courses are still needed today?

Isn't this fun?

You post some inane, vague defense of FDR/totalitarianism.....I obliterate it.....and you change the subject!

Excellent.

You may be a little confused.

"You may be a little confused."

If that were the case, you might actually be able to point to any errors in my posts.

You can't, I'm not.

What's that smell then?

 

[Moonglow]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is noce also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

Collectivism only works in the minds of drones… Fact

Your meaning of collectivism is probably based on Marxist theories, mine are not...yet, when and if the money creation ever gives out, you'll find collectivism will come back into style..

The Problem with collectivism it's always the few that end up with the most… Fact

Capitalism is the same...Notice capitalism in this nation has given the majority of wealth to the wealthy...hardly logical, yet human..

 

[bripat9643]

Anything that uses any kind of Socialist ideology will never work. If anyone claims that Capitalism has limits, they have lost all credibility.

Of course it has limits. Europe, NZ and Australia all have socialist aspects in their systems. Piss all over the US system.

The fact that some country infects its economy with socialism proves nothing other than that people are stupid and easily bamboozled.

 

[bripat9643]

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT... a BILLIONAIRE is a SOCIALIST...

Mao tse tung was filthy rich. So were all the top russian socialists.

Because they STOLE from the people. The Russian billionaires did the same.

That's all Trump's father did. Getting ahead entails getting the better end of a deal instead of a fair exchange.

Oh bull shit.

Trump inherited around $400M and turned it into $10B. He's pure capitalist to the core, and so was his dad.

He understands that welfare is part of the economy. He may not need it himself but I think you'll find he's a social democrat.

Heroin addicts are also part of the economy.

What's your point?

 

[bripat9643]

Trump is a democratic socialist so it aint failing.

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT... a BILLIONAIRE is a SOCIALIST...

Mao tse tung was filthy rich. So were all the top russian socialists.

Because they STOLE from the people. The Russian billionaires did the same.

That's all Trump's father did. Getting ahead entails getting the better end of a deal instead of a fair exchange.

Oh bull shit.

Trump inherited around $400M and turned it into $10B. He's pure capitalist to the core, and so was his dad.

He was already a billionaire when his father died.

 

[bripat9643]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is nice also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

How do you support the claim that it was "needed?" We also had slavery. Was that needed?

 

[Moonglow]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is nice also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

How do you support the claim that it was "needed?" We also had slavery. Was that needed?

And slavery was collectivist in nature...It was needed because that is how society was set up to function and had for several million years...Slavery was booty, just like silver and gold....Women, horses, etc...

 

[Rustic]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is nice also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

How do you support the claim that it was "needed?" We also had slavery. Was that needed?

And slavery was collectivist in nature...It was needed because that is how society was set up to function and had for several million years...Slavery was booty, just like silver and gold....Women, horses, etc...

Any society that needs collectivism should not even be a society to begin with, because it's 100% guaranteed to fail… Fact

 

[Moonglow]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is nice also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

How do you support the claim that it was "needed?" We also had slavery. Was that needed?

And slavery was collectivist in nature...It was needed because that is how society was set up to function and had for several million years...Slavery was booty, just like silver and gold....Women, horses, etc...

Any society that needs collectivism should not even be a society to begin with, because it's 100% guaranteed to fail… Fact

Yet the US survived...

 

[bripat9643]

Humans have worked collectively for many thousands of years, and capitalism can't stop that..

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is nice also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

How do you support the claim that it was "needed?" We also had slavery. Was that needed?

And slavery was collectivist in nature...It was needed because that is how society was set up to function and had for several million years...Slavery was booty, just like silver and gold....Women, horses, etc...

It isn't needed now, and it wasn't needed then. It was just an affliction of our society, just as syphilis afflicts some people.

 

[Rustic]

Collectivism is for pussies

Hardly so, as it was needed in the USA for many decades,,,You think the Amish don't work as a collective in their society, you are sadly mistaken..Individualism is nice also, but it helps when you help a neighbor and they help back...All for no money...

How do you support the claim that it was "needed?" We also had slavery. Was that needed?

And slavery was collectivist in nature...It was needed because that is how society was set up to function and had for several million years...Slavery was booty, just like silver and gold....Women, horses, etc...

Any society that needs collectivism should not even be a society to begin with, because it's 100% guaranteed to fail… Fact

Yet the US survived...

No two ways about it this is a failure… LOL

 

[kaz]

Do you think Democratic Socialism will always fail and Capitalism is always better or you think there is a inbetween position. I think positive of democratic socialism is welfare for the broad masses. There really arent any homeless in Austria like in America, there arent people who need to beg for donations to get a life important surgery etc. But the negative thing is the mass immigration which is huge cost, but I think in a small homogenous country it can work, where also the citizens are law abiding and disciplined and hard working but if there are many who have mentality they dont want to work but to leech it can get difficult. Also I think capitalism is based on one owns gaining of profit and aggravation of capital, but you cant eat capital, and there needs to be a limit, there needs to be other values driving our societies except ones own profit. so there needs to be some regulations in my opinion. Otherwise I support right to private property etc. and right to start and run a business etc . but with some regulations. Im not communist, Im democratic socialist.

Don't fool yourself, you're a communist