Case closed, Zimmerman's a gonner

[Luissa]

So the keys and the flashlight were "out".

Small Perry Mason moment right there.

How so?

Normally you don't use your car keys to attack someone, you have them out because you intend to return to your vehicle.

You don't? Don't they teach people in self defense classes to use their keys when defending themselves. No I am not making the claim he was going to attack Martin with them.
I am stating the only it proves is he had his keys out. He could have easily not had time to put them back in his pocket when chasing Martin.
Which is why I don't see this as a Perry Mason moment.

 

[25Caliber]

My attention is being drawn to the car keys. Why would he have those out, unless he was heading back to his vehicle? Doesn't that prove that he broke off his pursuit?

I think where the confrontation took place points that out too. It looks like he went to the opening behind the town homes and then possibly to the end of the T where Trayvon disappeared...didnt see him and then was heading back to the middle of the T and then that is where I think Trayvon came from around the backside of the building and asked what the problem was.

So it appears GZ went looking...couldnt find him and was heading back in the direction of the truck.

 

[Luissa]

Or it proves they fell out in the struggle.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Martin likely grabbed his chest as he went down.

Since it was a contact shot, Martin wouldn't have had the distance to grab his chest.

Think about it, he's on top of Zimmerman, who fires point blank; he'd lack the space to swing his arms in. Doesn't work.

 

[testarosa]

Normally you don't use your car keys to attack someone, you have them out because you intend to return to your vehicle.

And you wouldn't be "running/pursuing" with all your crap jangling in your hands OR have your gun out going after someone, juggling your keys that doesn't make any sense.

It makes sense that he had them out heading back to his vehicle.

Exactly. I hope someone catches that.

West is heading somewhere with this, he's going somewhere... I smell a Perry Mason moment.

 

[25Caliber]

How so?

Normally you don't use your car keys to attack someone, you have them out because you intend to return to your vehicle.

You don't? Don't they teach people in self defense classes to use their keys when defending themselves. No I am not making the claim he was going to attack Martin with them.
I am stating the only it proves is he had his keys out. He could have easily not had time to put them back in his pocket when chasing Martin.
Which is why I don't see this as a Perry Mason moment.

Or they could have been in his coat pocket and fell out during the struggle...I think keys out means little to nothing.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Or it proves they fell out in the struggle.

Very possible, Martin was on his chest beating him, the keys could easily fall from his pants pocket.

 

[koshergrl]

Uh oh here we go again...

 

[testarosa]

Normally you don't use your car keys to attack someone, you have them out because you intend to return to your vehicle.

You don't? Don't they teach people in self defense classes to use their keys when defending themselves. No I am not making the claim he was going to attack Martin with them.
I am stating the only it proves is he had his keys out. He could have easily not had time to put them back in his pocket when chasing Martin.
Which is why I don't see this as a Perry Mason moment.

Or they could have been in his coat pocket and fell out during the struggle...I think keys out means little to nothing.

On the defense thing - maybe for girls, I doubt that would ever cross my husbands mind. lol

 

[TemplarKormac]

Well now, West has now proven that Zimmerman's head was indeed bashed into the concrete more than once. The officer confirmed it by acknowledging that she "saw them [the lumps on his head] that night" when he was photographed.

BINGO!!

 

[testarosa]

Uh oh here we go again...

Thank you ma'am!

It's coming.... Waiting for him to get to it.

 

[koshergrl]

Any minute someone will jump up in the back of the courtroom and sob "I did it! It was me!"

 

[Luissa]

You don't? Don't they teach people in self defense classes to use their keys when defending themselves. No I am not making the claim he was going to attack Martin with them.
I am stating the only it proves is he had his keys out. He could have easily not had time to put them back in his pocket when chasing Martin.
Which is why I don't see this as a Perry Mason moment.

Or they could have been in his coat pocket and fell out during the struggle...I think keys out means little to nothing.

On the defense thing - maybe for girls, I doubt that would ever cross my husbands mind. lol

Would your husband shoot someone in a fight?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Well now, West has now proven that Zimmerman's head was indeed bashed into the concrete more than once. The officer confirmed it by acknowledging that she "saw them [the lumps on his head] that night" when he was photographed.

BINGO!!

Cant wait to hear the spin on this. And yet no physical damage TM except for cut knuckles and a bullet hole.

 

[testarosa]

OMG the Tweeter tweets are "live" from the courtroom and the feed is delayed, it's kinda freaking me out. lol

 

[LoneLaugher]

Well now, West has now proven that Zimmerman's head was indeed bashed into the concrete more than once. The officer confirmed it by acknowledging that she "saw them [the lumps on his head] that night" when he was photographed.

BINGO!!

That is not proof that his head was bashed into the concrete....let alone by the kid. That is proof that he had some bumps and cuts. Please.........think first, then post.

 

[testarosa]

Any minute someone will jump up in the back of the courtroom and sob "I did it! It was me!"

Finally!!!

Let's call it a day and all go home.

 

[testarosa]

My feed died. Did she say blood still dripping from Z 4 hours later?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Prosecution got called for hearsay.

 

[Luissa]

Well now, West has now proven that Zimmerman's head was indeed bashed into the concrete more than once. The officer confirmed it by acknowledging that she "saw them [the lumps on his head] that night" when he was photographed.

BINGO!!

That is not proof that his head was bashed into the concrete....let alone by the kid. That is proof that he had some bumps and cuts. Please.........think first, then post.

If he had his head bashed into the concrete more than once it would have been a lot worse. He also would have probably been unconscious.