Ravi
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I find it hard to believe that the church is employing same sex couples to begin with.![]()
Why? Do you honestly believe that the Catholic Church refuses to employ gays? How very stupid.
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I find it hard to believe that the church is employing same sex couples to begin with.![]()
Why? Do you honestly believe that the Catholic Church refuses to employ gays? How very stupid.
it's a matter of public funding to a catholic suborganization that acts as the charity. No one expects catholics to let gays have weddings but they DO expect public money that funds a catholic charity to abide by the same employment requirements as anyone else.
Like I said... don't like the public standard then don't take the public money.
Yeah .... and We need more Conservatives working for The DNC Right. Maybe in Accounting???? You are really making sense.
Que? the DNC what? talk about making sense....
And, again, if you don't like our public discrimination standards then don't hold your hand out for public money. it's as simple as that.
Just for the non-Catholics, who think the same sex marriage thing is an issue for the Catholic Church because the Church is anti-gay, the Catholic Church outlines 4 principles for marriage:
You are choose to marry, without external pressure.
You intend to remain together for the rest of your life.
You intend to remain faithful to one another.
Unless the bride is past childbearing age, you intend to have at least one child during the course of your marriage.
Marriage to Catholics is for the procreation of children.
Don't forget the other part of that.
If one of the partners is non-Catholic, the other partner must agree to raise the child(ren) as Catholic.
Immie
it's a matter of public funding to a catholic suborganization that acts as the charity. No one expects catholics to let gays have weddings but they DO expect public money that funds a catholic charity to abide by the same employment requirements as anyone else.
Like I said... don't like the public standard then don't take the public money.
Yeah .... and We need more Conservatives working for The DNC Right. Maybe in Accounting???? You are really making sense.
Que? the DNC what? talk about making sense....
And, again, if you don't like our public discrimination standards then don't hold your hand out for public money. it's as simple as that.
According to the article they do.Can someone explain to me how the second sentence doesn't contradict the first?
it's a matter of public funding to a catholic suborganization that acts as the charity. No one expects catholics to let gays have weddings but they DO expect public money that funds a catholic charity to abide by the same employment requirements as anyone else.
Like I said... don't like the public standard then don't take the public money.
I may be wrong on this, but are you even sure that Catholic Charities takes government funding? I don't think they do.
Immie
Yes, they do, mostly in the form of grants.Can someone explain to me how the second sentence doesn't contradict the first?
it's a matter of public funding to a catholic suborganization that acts as the charity. No one expects catholics to let gays have weddings but they DO expect public money that funds a catholic charity to abide by the same employment requirements as anyone else.
Like I said... don't like the public standard then don't take the public money.
I may be wrong on this, but are you even sure that Catholic Charities takes government funding? I don't think they do.
Immie
Yeah .... and We need more Conservatives working for The DNC Right. Maybe in Accounting???? You are really making sense.
Que? the DNC what? talk about making sense....
And, again, if you don't like our public discrimination standards then don't hold your hand out for public money. it's as simple as that.
I think that there are not enough Conservatives working at The DNC. We need more Conservative People Employed there. I think we should start with Your Accounting Department. Did I stutter?
There are not enough Conservatives teaching at Higher Education Institutes. We should mandate 25%. Let's start with Harvard.
Definitely not enough Pro Lifers at Planned Parenthood. Let's shoot for 50% there.
What is The Conservative presence on the Union Control Boards?.... Thought so.
They banned Halloween? I didn't know that. However, the District, with braintrusts such as Marion Barry on board, has no right to tell the diocese what to do.Maybe the District told them they didn't give a flying fuck about their ban on Halloween.![]()
Frankly, the council should consider themselves lucky that the diocese is even addressing this with a reverse threat. Personally, I wouldn't have said a thing then nailed the council if this passed with a suit for being grossly unconstitutional.
Of course, the Church didn't 'ban' Halloween, it reminded its congragation that Halloween is not compatible with the Church doctrine. I've heard this pretty much every year since I was a kid.
And, I suspect that the poor will not suffer from any withdrawal of funding - the Church will just find another way of helping the same people. So the City might lose the funding but the poor will not suffer. The Catholic Church is noted for being quite kind to poor people. Makes me laugh how people rant about the politics - but I often wonder how much time these ranters give to help the less fortunate.
I find it hard to believe that the church is employing same sex couples to begin with.![]()
Why? Do you honestly believe that the Catholic Church refuses to employ gays? How very stupid.Of course they do...that's why they are hypocrites.
WHY do people act surprised when the Roman Catholic Church .....
....FOLLOWS CATHOLIC DOCTRINE?
I don't get that.
Would we be surprised if Moslems acted Moslem????
Would we be surprised if Baptists acted Baptist?
Would we be surprised if Jews acted Jewish?
Would we be surprised if Buddhists acted Buddhist?
Would we be surprised if Seventh Day Adventists acted Seventh Day Adventist?
NO?
So why do people get their panties in a bunch and accuse the RCC of "issuing ultimatums" or "throwing their weight around" when the Church simply wants to uphold it's centuries old religious beliefs?
Why do some get their undies in a bunch because the RCC won't hire people who do not honor or recognize the RCC religious beliefs? WHY would such people *even want* to work for the RCC anyway?
Inquiring minds want to know.![]()
Then why are the upset that they might have to give their gay employees spousal benefits?Why? Do you honestly believe that the Catholic Church refuses to employ gays? How very stupid.Of course they do...that's why they are hypocrites.
Wrong again Ravi. I believe They request Abstinence, and take Confession.
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This would be an Inconventient Truth for Dogbert.
He's not only America hating, but he hates "his church" as well.
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This would be an Inconventient Truth for Dogbert.
He's not only America hating, but he hates "his church" as well.
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Shouldn't you be busy with the dreams of gallows and a white America dancing in your head? I figured that's what you racists spent your free time doing.
They banned Halloween? I didn't know that. However, the District, with braintrusts such as Marion Barry on board, has no right to tell the diocese what to do.
Frankly, the council should consider themselves lucky that the diocese is even addressing this with a reverse threat. Personally, I wouldn't have said a thing then nailed the council if this passed with a suit for being grossly unconstitutional.
Of course, the Church didn't 'ban' Halloween, it reminded its congragation that Halloween is not compatible with the Church doctrine. I've heard this pretty much every year since I was a kid.
And, I suspect that the poor will not suffer from any withdrawal of funding - the Church will just find another way of helping the same people. So the City might lose the funding but the poor will not suffer. The Catholic Church is noted for being quite kind to poor people. Makes me laugh how people rant about the politics - but I often wonder how much time these ranters give to help the less fortunate.
Really? When did they change that? I went to catholic elementary schools in the 50's, and Halloween was the only day we could forego our uniforms and wear Halloween costumes.
Normally I don't agree with the catholic church on anything, but in this instance, it's their money to do with what they want. Too many churches aren't standing behind their beliefs on many issues, including this one.
It is no fact at all. Thanks for playing.Of course, the Church didn't 'ban' Halloween, it reminded its congragation that Halloween is not compatible with the Church doctrine. I've heard this pretty much every year since I was a kid.
And, I suspect that the poor will not suffer from any withdrawal of funding - the Church will just find another way of helping the same people. So the City might lose the funding but the poor will not suffer. The Catholic Church is noted for being quite kind to poor people. Makes me laugh how people rant about the politics - but I often wonder how much time these ranters give to help the less fortunate.
Really? When did they change that? I went to catholic elementary schools in the 50's, and Halloween was the only day we could forego our uniforms and wear Halloween costumes.
Normally I don't agree with the catholic church on anything, but in this instance, it's their money to do with what they want. Too many churches aren't standing behind their beliefs on many issues, including this one.
So did we, however, it has always been a fact that the Church itself disapproves of Halloween.
Then why are the upset that they might have to give their gay employees spousal benefits?Of course they do...that's why they are hypocrites.
Wrong again Ravi. I believe They request Abstinence, and take Confession.
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Yes, they do, mostly in the form of grants.it's a matter of public funding to a catholic suborganization that acts as the charity. No one expects catholics to let gays have weddings but they DO expect public money that funds a catholic charity to abide by the same employment requirements as anyone else.
Like I said... don't like the public standard then don't take the public money.
I may be wrong on this, but are you even sure that Catholic Charities takes government funding? I don't think they do.
Immie
This would be an Inconventient Truth for Dogbert.
He's not only America hating, but he hates "his church" as well.
![]()
Shouldn't you be busy with the dreams of gallows and a white America dancing in your head? I figured that's what you racists spent your free time doing.
This would be an Inconventient Truth for Dogbert.
He's not only America hating, but he hates "his church" as well.
![]()
Shouldn't you be busy with the dreams of gallows and a white America dancing in your head? I figured that's what you racists spent your free time doing.
It's comments like that which make me prejudiced against Humans. There is hope yet.