Catholicism and Islam - Two Similar Gospels

[Book of Jeremiah]

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" Gal. 4:16

'No Salvation Outside Roman Catholicism'
Says New Vatican Dictum

Issue Date: November/December 2000

The Roman Catholic Church has released a 36-page declaration that she, alone, has a corner on salvation. All other churches are "not churches in the proper sense."

The document stresses the doctrine that salvation is by grace but declares that the church alone can dispense that grace and the only real church is the Roman Catholic church.

Other churches or "ecclesial communities" can only provide this grace in a partial way, depending on how closely they resemble Roman Catholicism. For example, the Eastern Orthodox are very close because they worship the wafer god and have a hierarchy of priestcraft. Even though they do not recognize the Pope in Rome as universal head of the church, they are still considered part of the true "church."

All others who call themselves churches are really only "ecclesial communities" and cannot provide the means of grace required for salvation. Presumably, Protestant churches are especially out in the cold because they have purposely broken off from the "true church" rebelling against the only church which Christ established through Peter the first pope.

However, individual members of these "ecclesial communities" who receive baptism get a little bit of grace. This is only because the Roman Catholicism teaches baptismal regeneration, that original sin is forgiven by baptism.

However, since Roman Catholic salvation is on the installment plan, where one must continue to receive the "sacraments" or lose it, this baptism in an "ecclesial community" doesn't really go anywhere unless you convert to Catholicism and continue receiving the Jesus wafer from a priest.

Release of this dictum brought loud objections from some of the mainline Protestants who have been cozying up to Rome. Anglicans and some Lutherans have been in ecumenical dialog with Rome for several years and thought that they were making some progress. However, this Declaration has come as a shocking reminder that any unity with the pope will be on his terms, not theirs.

To further reinforce Rome's arrogance, another dictum was sent to the world-wide bishop's conferences specifying how they are to use the term "Sister Churches." In the course of the ecumenical dialogs with non-Catholic churches, some negotiators were beginning to use the term as if Roman Catholicism and the other denominations were on equal standing in Christ's Kingdom.

This directive states: "in the proper sense, sister Churches are exclusively particular [individual or local] Churches (or groupings of particular Churches; for example, the Patriarchates or Metropolitan provinces) among themselves. It must always be clear, when the expression Sister Churches is used in this proper sense, that the one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic Universal Church is not sister but mother of all the particular Churches."

In all its reaching out to other religions and churches, Rome has not wavered on its claim to full ownership of the Kingdom of God on earth. She will not tolerate any attack on the idea that she is the source of saving grace for salvation and hope of eternal life.

The Bible calls her "mother" all right, but "THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." (Revelation 17:5) The grace she offers is a false grace. When Jesus bought our salvation on the cross, He gave it freely to all who believe. No one can "corner the market" and sell it just to a certain group. Soul winners, we must keep telling them the truth.

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'No Salvation Outside Roman Catholicism' Says New Vatican Dictum

This should come as no surprise. Cults have always demanded that people must become a member of "their religion" in order to go to heaven. No such teaching exists in the King James Version Holy Bible. Jesus Christ is not a "religion."
It is written:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:6

Notice that Jesus Christ didn't say Mary was the way to salvation. Nor did he say membership into Catholicism was the way of salvation. Notice that he didn't say praying to dead people or buying indulgences from the Roman Catholic Institution could ransom your loved ones out of hell. There is no single church to which a person can receive salvation. The body of Christ is the Church and there is no salvation through any other name but Jesus Christ.

 

[irosie91]

I have a wonderful idea for this thread----how about a discussion on the actual fact of Francis's statement-----in which he ---nicely
and favorably compare catholic missionizing to JIHAD

No true follower of Jesus Christ would ever condone forced conversion of others to faith in Jesus Christ. Such teachings are no where to be found in the King James Version Holy Bible. Anyone who teaches and endorses Conquest (forced conversions to Jesus Christ) is not a true follower of Jesus Christ.

Dear Jeremiah
In Islam this is called teaching "there is no compulsion in religion"
So there are Muslims teaching this who do not recognize any of the Jihadist/terrorist oppression
as anything to do with Islam because that contradicts Mohammad's teaching on no compulsion.
They don't even recognize the use of the word Jihad to mean war,
when the spiritual meaning is an inner struggle for peace by refraining from temptations
to do wrong and adhering to what is truly right.

Have you ever met muslims other than in FRIENDSHIP MEETINGS Emily? Have you ever met any non muslim
suvivors of shariah societies? -------do you have any concept of history at all?---------or are you just here to lie?

 

[irosie91]

In this newsletter, we discover the truth. There is similarity in the Gospel of Catholicism and the Gospel of Islam. Yet no where in the bible does Jesus Christ or His disciples teach us about "conquest." Catholicism's Gospel denies the Biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ. Of that there can be no denial. The message of Pope Francis is an alarming one and should be confronted for what it is. A lie. He is promoting false teaching that denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The truth has been made known in this article. "Both Islam and Roman Catholicism have a bloody history of conquest." One need only examine the history of both religions in order to realize that this is an undeniable truth.
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Pope Francis continues to woo Muslims into Rome’s ecumenical clutches. In a recent “wide ranging interview” with a French Catholic newspaper, La Croix, he compared Islam’s “idea of conquest” with the Great Commission in Matthew: “It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam. However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.”

Here he reveals how Roman Catholicism’s gospel differs from the biblical one. Rather than a gracious wooing of the heart to the new birth, Jesuits and Dominicans have seduced kings and presidents to use government power to spread Catholicism. From the Inquisition to modern persecution in Chiapas, Mexico, Bible believers have felt the pain (and death) of Rome’s “conquests.” Here the pope is right; both Islam and Roman Catholicism have a bloody history of conquest. Read more on link below:
Catholicism and Islam —Two Similar Gospels

GFY.

^^^That

Frances reminds me of Pius. For the sake of HIS CHURCH-----he did not like to aggravate adolf. Frances---for the sake of HIS CHURCH -----sucks up to muslims

This Popeiness gives me pause, I miss John Paul

which one? the quickly dead one-----or the jovial ROLY POLY ---pole?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In this newsletter, we discover the truth. There is similarity in the Gospel of Catholicism and the Gospel of Islam. Yet no where in the bible does Jesus Christ or His disciples teach us about "conquest." Catholicism's Gospel denies the Biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ. Of that there can be no denial. The message of Pope Francis is an alarming one and should be confronted for what it is. A lie. He is promoting false teaching that denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The truth has been made known in this article. "Both Islam and Roman Catholicism have a bloody history of conquest." One need only examine the history of both religions in order to realize that this is an undeniable truth.
___________________
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Pope Francis continues to woo Muslims into Rome’s ecumenical clutches. In a recent “wide ranging interview” with a French Catholic newspaper, La Croix, he compared Islam’s “idea of conquest” with the Great Commission in Matthew: “It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam. However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.”

Here he reveals how Roman Catholicism’s gospel differs from the biblical one. Rather than a gracious wooing of the heart to the new birth, Jesuits and Dominicans have seduced kings and presidents to use government power to spread Catholicism. From the Inquisition to modern persecution in Chiapas, Mexico, Bible believers have felt the pain (and death) of Rome’s “conquests.” Here the pope is right; both Islam and Roman Catholicism have a bloody history of conquest. Read more on link below:
Catholicism and Islam —Two Similar Gospels

This sort of bigotry and hatred is indeed not Christian.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Part 1:

In defense of former Jesuit
Alberto Rivera

When Chick Publications first published the personal testimony of former Jesuit Alberto Rivera, Rome called upon her ecumenical contacts to go on the attack. Rome's friends attacked the way they always have, by attacking the messenger. Not wanting to publicly discuss the serious charges Alberto lays against his former church, they tried to discredit him personally, hoping people would then not read his message.

The most famous of these personal attacks was an open letter published inChristianity Today, which has been copied and distributed around the world many times since the 1980s. Upon reading this attack, a Christian named James Houston, who had read enough of history to know the truth of Alberto's charges, came forward. Following is the letter he wrote in defense of Alberto Rivera.

Since the Christianity Today letter is still being distributed to attack Alberto's God-given message, even going so far as to deny he was ever a priest, we feel it is appropriate to make Houston's rebuttal available as well. It is vital that Bible-believing Christians understand the true nature of the Roman Catholic Church, so they will understand why they need to reach out in love to Catholics to lead them to saving faith in Jesus Christ.

Editor
Christianity Today
465 Gundersen Drive
Carol Stream, Illinois 60187
Dear Sir:

I have read your three page article exposing J.T. Chick's "Alberto" to be a fraud (see Christianity Today, March 13, 1981). I would like to make the following comments on the same hoping that God in His sovereignty would allow this letter to be printed (in full) in a future issue of Christianity Today:

1. Considering the evidence set forth in your article, though I find many things stated of which Alberto Rivera may or may not be guilty, I can find no evidence in the article that proves him to be a fraud, unless of course, I'm misunderstanding the word: "fraud." You do state what Rome herself has to say about Alberto. Who in a right frame of mind (unless they are totally ignorant of history) would give heed to her words in the light of the following evidence:
   
   
   1. Her teaching that "the end justifies the means" allows her the freedom to lie, just as long as it propagates her cause.
      
      
      
   2. H.G. Wells, noted historian, in his book, "Crux Ansata," states:
      Page 105 - "Roman Catholicism is a broken and utterly desperate thing, capable only of malignant mischief in our awakening world."
      
      Page 155 - "I think that it stands for everything most hostile to the mental emancipation and stimulation of mankind. It is the completest, most highly organized system of prejudices and antagonisms in existence. Everywhere in the world there are ignorance and prejudice, but the greatest complex of these, with the most extensive prestige and the most intimate entanglement with traditional institutions, is the Roman Catholic Church. It presents many faces towards the world, but everywhere it is systematic in its fight against freedom."
      
      
      
      
   3. Lord Macaulay, in his "Essays on Ranke's History of the Popes, 1852," page 548, states:"It is impossible to deny that the polity of the Church of Rome is the very masterpiece of human wisdom....The experience of 1,200 eventful years, the ingenuity and patient care of forty generations of statesmen, have improved that polity to such perfection, that, among the contrivances which have been devised for deceiving and controlling mankind, it occupies the highest place."
      Again, Macaulay in his "History of England," (Volume 1, page 47) states:
      
      "the loveliest and most fertile provinces of Europe have under her (Rome's) rule, been sunk in poverty, in political servitude, and in intellectual torpor."
      
      
      
   4. Charles Dickens' "Life," (by Foster, Volume II, page 274) described Popery as:"the most horrible means of political and social degradation left in the world."
      
      
      
   5. Adam Smith ("Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter 1, Part 3, Ant. 3):"The Church of Rome is the most formidable combination that ever was formed against the authority and security of civil government, as well as against the liberty, reason, and happiness of mankind."
      
      
      
   6. Gladstone ("Speeches of Pope Pius IX," page 173):"When the Pope speaks of the liberation of the Church, he means merely this, that it is to set its foot on the neck of every other power."

Answer to critics of former Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera

 

[SassyIrishLass]

In this newsletter, we discover the truth. There is similarity in the Gospel of Catholicism and the Gospel of Islam. Yet no where in the bible does Jesus Christ or His disciples teach us about "conquest." Catholicism's Gospel denies the Biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ. Of that there can be no denial. The message of Pope Francis is an alarming one and should be confronted for what it is. A lie. He is promoting false teaching that denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The truth has been made known in this article. "Both Islam and Roman Catholicism have a bloody history of conquest." One need only examine the history of both religions in order to realize that this is an undeniable truth.
___________________
___________________
Pope Francis continues to woo Muslims into Rome’s ecumenical clutches. In a recent “wide ranging interview” with a French Catholic newspaper, La Croix, he compared Islam’s “idea of conquest” with the Great Commission in Matthew: “It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam. However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.”

Here he reveals how Roman Catholicism’s gospel differs from the biblical one. Rather than a gracious wooing of the heart to the new birth, Jesuits and Dominicans have seduced kings and presidents to use government power to spread Catholicism. From the Inquisition to modern persecution in Chiapas, Mexico, Bible believers have felt the pain (and death) of Rome’s “conquests.” Here the pope is right; both Islam and Roman Catholicism have a bloody history of conquest. Read more on link below:
Catholicism and Islam —Two Similar Gospels

GFY.

^^^That

Frances reminds me of Pius. For the sake of HIS CHURCH-----he did not like to aggravate adolf. Frances---for the sake of HIS CHURCH -----sucks up to muslims

This Popeiness gives me pause, I miss John Paul

which one? the quickly dead one-----or the jovial ROLY POLY ---pole?

 

[irosie91]

I have a wonderful idea for this thread----how about a discussion on the actual fact of Francis's statement-----in which he ---nicely
and favorably compare catholic missionizing to JIHAD

No true follower of Jesus Christ would ever condone forced conversion of others to faith in Jesus Christ. Such teachings are no where to be found in the King James Version Holy Bible. Anyone who teaches and endorses Conquest (forced conversions to Jesus Christ) is not a true follower of Jesus Christ.

Dear Jeremiah
In Islam this is called teaching "there is no compulsion in religion"
So there are Muslims teaching this who do not recognize any of the Jihadist/terrorist oppression
as anything to do with Islam because that contradicts Mohammad's teaching on no compulsion.
They don't even recognize the use of the word Jihad to mean war,
when the spiritual meaning is an inner struggle for peace by refraining from temptations
to do wrong and adhering to what is truly right.

care4all----has endorsed Emily's idiotic explanation of Jihad and DER KORAN over the dead bodies of 100s of millions.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

part 2

1. In Dean Stanley's "Life of Dr. Arnold," (Volume II, page 411, London, 1844) we read:"This is the last night, I trust, in which I shall sleep in the Pope's dominions; for it is impossible not to be sickened with a government such as this, which discharges no one function decently. The ignorance of the people is prodigious (enormous): how can it be otherwise?"
   
   
   
2. Father Chiniquy in his book, "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome," factuates the Vatican being responsible for the death of that dear man, Abraham Lincoln. He states on Page 512:"I come fearlessly today before the American people to say and prove that the President, Abraham Lincoln, was assassinated by the priests and Jesuits of Rome."
   And if you have read this book, then you have noted that the Vatican alsomaligned the reputation of Chiniquy for his revealing the evil of Rome. This book was very popular when I first got converted (1957). Today, you probably could not purchase this book in most Christian book stores, due mainly to the influence of the Charismatic Movement, which has been raised up by Satan to lure true Christians into the judgement of idolatrous Rome, though God's Word forbids His people to have fellowship with these wafer-god idolaters (See II Corinthians 6:14-18). It seems rather strange that many Roman Catholics are coming out of Rome, and at the same time, many born-again Christians are going into Rome. You would think that the testimonies of so many former Roman Catholics would be a sufficient warning to these poor deluded souls, but alas, Satan still posing as an angel of light, captivated the hearts and minds of many. Of course, at the root of this apostasy is "sinful pleasure," for the Charismatic Movement allows its followers to do their "own thing," with the word, "repentance," being almost (if not totally) absent from their vocabulary. And though these reprobates have been "bought with a price," they now "deny the Lord that bought them," for they have "chosen the way of Cain." May God use this message to turn some of these souls back into the way before they come to experience just what Paul meant when he said: "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (II Thessalonians 2:12)
   
   
   
   
3. D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones (author of the well-recognized commentary on Romans, published by Zondervan) in his sermon preached in Westminster Chapel on January 29, 1961 and printed in The Westminster Record, May, 1963, states:"This system (Romanism) is altogether more dangerous than is Communism itself, because this is a counterfeit, this does it in the name of Christ. This is ‘the scarlet woman,' this is the most horrible, foul deception of all, because it uses His name."
   
   
   "Let me warn you very solemnly that if you rejoice in these approaches to Rome you are denying the blood of the martyrs."
   
   
   "There is no difficulty about this; this is a counterfeit, a sham;this is prostitution of the worst and most diabolical kind. It is indeed a form of the antichrist, and it is to be rejected, it is to be denounced; but above all, it is to be countered."
   
   
   
4. A. B. Simpson, (founder of the "Christian and Missionary Alliance," with headquarters at Nyack, N.Y.) states very clearly in his book, "The Fourfold Gospel," page 84, the following:"The predicted ‘falling away,' has long ago begun, and the man of sin has set in God's temple already the full time of the prophetic cycle, and the process has begun which is to ‘consume and destroy unto the end.' The Papacy has fulfilled almost all the lineaments of its marvelous portrait."

Answer to critics of former Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera

 

[irosie91]

GFY.

^^^That

Frances reminds me of Pius. For the sake of HIS CHURCH-----he did not like to aggravate adolf. Frances---for the sake of HIS CHURCH -----sucks up to muslims

This Popeiness gives me pause, I miss John Paul

which one? the quickly dead one-----or the jovial ROLY POLY ---pole?

^^^^ not the current pope------unfortunately

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

More evidence:

1. Again, in "The Christian and Missionary Alliance" magazine, editorial page, August 1, 1903, we read:"The death of the Pope after a protracted illness and a prolonged career of successful administration of the great religious body over which he presided, marked an epoch of great importance. While all bitter controversial spirit may well be hushed in the presence of death, ....yet we cannot but utter a humble protest against the reckless and indiscriminate way in which many Christians and Christian journals seem to forget notwithstanding the highest personal qualities, that this man was the head of and front for the most pernicious and dangerous system of religion on earth today, the very antichrist of prophecy and the unchanged enemy of Christ and His most holy faith."
   Certainly there is no mistaking the intent of dear Brother Simpson's words in this editorial for which I give thanks to our dear Lord for recording such a witness for later generations. Hallelujah!
   
   
   
   
2. J.C. Ryle, in his book, "Warnings to the Churches," (Published by The Banner of Truth Trust, page 163) states:"Surely, when the mind of God about idolatry is so plainly revealed to us in His Word, it seems the height of infatuation in any one to join a church so steeped in idolatries as the Church of Rome. To enter into communion with her, when God is saying, ‘Come out of her, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and receive not of her plagues' (Rev. 18:4), to seek her when the Lord is warning us to leave her -- to become her subjects when the Lord's voice is crying, ‘Escape for thy life, flee from the wrath to come;' all this is mental blindness."
   Again on page 166, we read:
   
   "When Rome has repealed the decrees of Trent, and her additions to the creed , -- when Rome has recanted her false and unscriptural doctrines, -- when Rome has formally renounced image-worship, Mary-worship, and trans-substantiation, -- then, and not till then, it will be time to talk of reunion with her. Till then there is a gulf between us which cannot be honestly bridged. Till then I call on all Churchmen to resist to the death this idea of reunion with Rome. Till then let our watch-words be ‘No peace with Rome! No communion with idolaters!' Well says the admirable Bishop Jewell, in his Apology, "We do not decline concord and peace with men; butwe will not continue in a state of war with God that we might have peace with men! -- If the Pope does indeed desire we should be reconciled to him, he ought first to reconcile himself to God.'"
   
   
   
3. John Wesley in his "Explanatory Notes Upon the New Testament," Revelation 13:1, Proposition 5, Page 697:"The beast is the Romish papacy. This manifestly follows from the third and fourth propositions: the beast has a strict connection with the city of Rome; and the beast is now existing. Therefore, either there is some other power more strictly connected with that city, or the Pope is the beast."

Answer to critics of former Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jere is a Boldean Pentecostal, which explains the looniness about the OP.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Be sure to examine carefully #13 here, where Pope Nicholas declares himself to be "God."

1. Albert Barnes in his one volume commentary on the New Testament, published by Kregel, also declares without any hesitation, that Rome is Babylon (see Revelation 13 and 17). My copy is on loan at the present time.
   
   
   
   
   
2. Henry H. Halley in the famous "Halley's Bible Handbook," published by Zondervan, contrasts the Roman Papacy with the Beast of Revelation 13 and in Revelation 17, Page 732, he states:"The horrors of the Inquisition, ordered and maintained by the Popes, over a period of five hundred years, in which unnumbered millions were tortured and burned, constitute the MOST BRUTAL BEASTLY AND DEVILISH PICTURE in all history. It is inconceivable that any Ecclesiastical Organization, in its mania for power, could have distorted and desecrated and corrupted, for its own exaltation, the beautiful and holy religion of Jesus, as the Papacy has done. But Facts are Facts. And, most amazing of all, it seems exactly pre-figured in Revelation. No wonder John's vision made him sick at heart (10:10)."
   
   
   
3. Matthew Henry, commenting on II Thessalonians 2:4:"...to whom can this better apply than to the Bishops of Rome...?"
   
   
   
4. Bishop Ellicott has this to say concerning Revelation 17:"Is it then, the question must be asked, Papal Rome? The answer is: In so far as Papal Rome has wielded tyrant power, turned persecutor, stood between the spirits of men and Christ, depraved men's consciences, withheld the truth, connived at visiousness, sought aggrandizement, and been a political machine rather than a witness for the righteous King, she has inherited the features of Babylon. The recognition of these features led Dante to apply this very passage in the Apocalypse to Rome under the rule of worldly and tyrant Popes..."
   
   
   
5. William Smith, in his "Smith's Bible Dictionary," published by Holman, (Four Thousand Questions and Answers), page 405:"59. What was the fourth beast like? -- It was terrible and strong, and had iron teeth and ten horns.
   61. Who is the representative of that fourth or final power now? -- The Pope of Rome. The popish system, as far as it has any remaining power."
   These are his comments on Daniel.
   
   
   
   
6. Walter Criswell, pastor of the famed First Baptist Church of Dallas, Texas commenting on Revelation 17:"...the worship of mother and child spread throughout the whole world, from Babylon to Assyria, to Phoenicia, to Pergamos, and finally to Rome itself. There the Roman Emperor was elected Pontifex Maximus... and when the Roman Emperor passed away, that title of the rites and mysteries of the cult of mother and child, the Babylon mystery of idolatry, was assumed by the Bishop of Rome."
   
   
   
7. Dr. H. Ward Beecher, "The Papal Conspiracy Exposed," pages 176-177:"The system, as a system, is false and pernicious."
   
   
   
8. Dean Alford, "Letters From Abroad," pages 66-67:"Rome...is the worst city in the civilized world."
   
   
   
9. John Albert Bengel, "New Testament Word Studies," Volume II, page 895 (Published by Kregel):"5. The Beast is the Roman Papacy."
   
   
   
10. Wycliffe, Luther, Melanchthon, Knox, Latimer, Ridley, Cranmer, etc., also spoke of the Roman Church being Babylon and the Papacy being the Anti-christ.
    
    
    
    
    
11. When I was first converted about 25 years ago, there was in the front of the King James version of the Bible, the statement that the Pope was the "man of sin." Today, that has been removed. Just another point of the great apostasy that is taking place in regards to the true Church flirting with Rome. We should note how Paul ties in the "falling away" with "that man of sin" in II Thessalonians 2. My personal belief is that the main element of this apostasy is the true Church seeking a common fellowship with this "mother of whores" (Rome) and its "man of sin" (the Pope). As God's Israel of the Old Testament apostasized into Babylon and her idolatry; so it seems that God's spiritual Israel of the New Testament is doing the same thing. But God still has His faithful remnant who still are crying out, "Come out of her, My people." (Revelation 18:4)
    
    
    And last, but not least, a word from the enemy herself...
    
    
    
    
12. The Bull Sanctum, issued by Boniface VIII, 16th November, 1302, (quoted in "The Book of Revelation," by F.W.C. Neser, page 184) reads as follows:"The Roman Pontiff judges all men, but is judged by no one. We declare, assert, define and pronounce: to be subject to the Roman Pontiff is to every human creature altogether necessary for salvation.
    
    
    
    
    
13. Pope Nicholas said, (quoted in "Antichrist" by Ian Paisley, page 54),I am all in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the Vicar of God, have but one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do. What therefore can you make of me but God?

Answer to critics of former Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera

 

[irosie91]

Jere is a Boldean Pentecostal, which explains the looniness about the OP.

you have something on Pentecostals?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I am all in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the Vicar of God, have but one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do.What therefore can you make of me but God? - Pope Nicolas, quoted in "Antichrist" by Ian Paisley, Page 54

 

[emilynghiem]

HUH?

The only Gospels in Catholicism are Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?

What the heck?

What are your gospels if not matthew, mark, luke, and john?

Dear Care4all and Jeremiah
Aren't the central commandments that all the other laws and prophets derive from:
* to love God with all our hearts minds and souls
* to love our neighbors as ourselves
And the New Commandment in John 13:34
* to love one another as Jesus Christ loves us
which joins the love of God and the love of man as ONE in Christ Jesus
ie unconditional love of God (not the conditioned biased love of man)
that reconciles man's will with God's will through Restorative Justice
that Christ Jesus brings and Spiritual Healing peace and harmony that
comes with it as the Holy Spirit. Doesn't that cover all the bases, and
include all the laws prophets and authorities given by God that Jesus as Justice governs over?

 

[irosie91]

for the record----there is a significant movement afoot-----
-----a kind of DAVID DUKIAN THING------which could
PROPERLY be named ****INQUISITION DENIAL%%%
since only a few hundred really good and compliant catholics
were executed

 

[Care4all]

In this newsletter, we discover the truth. There is similarity in the Gospel of Catholicism and the Gospel of Islam. Yet no where in the bible does Jesus Christ or His disciples teach us about "conquest." Catholicism's Gospel denies the Biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ. Of that there can be no denial. The message of Pope Francis is an alarming one and should be confronted for what it is. A lie. He is promoting false teaching that denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The truth has been made known in this article. "Both Islam and Roman Catholicism have a bloody history of conquest." One need only examine the history of both religions in order to realize that this is an undeniable truth.
___________________
___________________
Pope Francis continues to woo Muslims into Rome’s ecumenical clutches. In a recent “wide ranging interview” with a French Catholic newspaper, La Croix, he compared Islam’s “idea of conquest” with the Great Commission in Matthew: “It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam. However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.”

Here he reveals how Roman Catholicism’s gospel differs from the biblical one. Rather than a gracious wooing of the heart to the new birth, Jesuits and Dominicans have seduced kings and presidents to use government power to spread Catholicism. From the Inquisition to modern persecution in Chiapas, Mexico, Bible believers have felt the pain (and death) of Rome’s “conquests.” Here the pope is right; both Islam and Roman Catholicism have a bloody history of conquest. Read more on link below:
Catholicism and Islam —Two Similar Gospels

GFY.

^^^That

Frances reminds me of Pius. For the sake of HIS CHURCH-----he did not like to aggravate adolf. Frances---for the sake of HIS CHURCH -----sucks up to muslims

maybe, just maybe Pope Frances is following what Jesus Christ TAUGHT?


Matthew 5:43-48New International Version (NIV)
Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

1. 1. But even with such a great cloud of witnesses, one might be tempted to ask the following question, "Has not Rome changed recently?" To answer this most vital question, I turn once again to the mesage of D. Martyn Lloyd Jones:
      
      "'Ah but,' you say, ‘has not the Roman Catholic Church changed? You are simply looking back, you are speaking as if you lived in the 16th century-- don't you realize you are living in the 20th century?' My answer is quite simple. The proudest boast of the Roman Catholic Church is this, that she never changes, Semper eadem. How can she change? If she changes she will be admitting that she was wrong in the past -- but she was saying then that she was infallible, and that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ and that he cannot make a mistake.If she says that she is capable of change she is denying her central claim! She does not say that she is changing, and she never will. The Church of Rome remains the same. If anything, she is even worse. She has 'added' things to what she taught in the 16th century, such as Papal infallibility, etc. No, there is no change in the Church of Rome. And if there ever is one great world Church it will be because the Church of Rome has absorbed all the rest and swallowed them in their ignorance!"
   Looking once again at this most vital question, "Has not the Church of Rome changed?" -- just consider some of the trouble spots in the world today:
   
   1. Cuba with it's Castro. I wonder if Castro has ever been excommunicated from the Catholic Church?
      
      
      
      
      
   2. Poland with its Lech Walesa. Why did Pope Paul II tell Walesa "to remain a member of the Communist system, not to flaunt his rejection of basic Communist principles" according to William F. Buckley, Jr. (N.Y. Daily News, February 3, 1981)?
      
      
      No one can claim that Buckley is being prejudiced against Rome for he himself is a staunch Roman Catholic. Buckley goes on to say, "One thinks back to 1948, when the Christian Democrats and the Communists were fighting for the soul of Italy. On that occasion Pope Pius the XII issued a write of automatic excommunication from the church of any Catholic who voted for the Communists or who sided with or abetted them in their work. That interdict has never been disavowed. A canonical lawyer given to erstic advocacy could theoretically prove that by giving such advice as the present Pope gave to Walesa, the Pope excommunicated himself from the Catholic Church. Ridiculous, of course; but only that grand mosaic of paradoxes and accommodations can account for the survival of the church over the centuries."
      
      I would comment on this by saying that Buckley would have been a wee bit truer had he used the word, "hypocricies," in place of the word, "paradoxes." Nevertheless, Buckley, a staunch Roman Catholic, has unwittingly proven the Pope to be the "hypocrite of the ages." This entire affair seems almost like a replay of the second world war. Rome has proven herself not only to be the "mother of whores," but also the "mother of wars." Avro Manhattan factuates this truth in his book, "Vatican in World Politics." One more statement by Buckley in this same editorial is worthy of mention. He says, "Writing in 1954, Whittaker Chambers predicted that the future of the West's relations with the Soviet Union would best be understood by closely examining the role of Cardinal Wyszynski in Poland."
      
      
      
      
   3. Ireland, with its I.R.A. which is predominantly Roman Catholic. Jimmy Breslin, (New York Daily News, March 8, 1981) makes some interesting comments on how blood-thirsty Roman Catholics are: "The President and Haig the General somehow might be able to get their small war going in El Salvador, but it won't be a real good one. This is because American Catholics, who used to erupt with joy at the notion of drawing blood, are against it...there just won't be as many people killed as there could be with traditional Catholic participation." No one can accuse Breslin of being prejudiced, for he also is a Roman Catholic.

Answer to critics of former Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera

 

[irosie91]

I am all in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the Vicar of God, have but one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do.What therefore can you make of me but God? - Pope Nicolas, quoted in "Antichrist" by Ian Paisley, Page 54

there are medications now available that can deal
with those ^^^^^ kind of delusions

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jere is a Boldean Pentecostal, which explains the looniness about the OP.

you have something on Pentecostals?

The same as Jere has on anyone who disagrees with her.

I have many Pentecostal friends over the years, which in no way excuses its hatred of other beliefs.

Jere carries it to new heights.