CBO says TrumpCare is awful

[jc456]

Hey but those that make $200,000 + a year get a super Tax Break, that is all that matters right?

it's called tax credits and the poor don't pay income tax nor do they actually pay in today. They are subsidized, it is funny the way the left loves to skew reality into their pretendland politics. The poor will maintain their coverage through medicare. D'OH, And those who don't have company provided healthcare receive the same tax credit as an individual who receives credit through their employer at the same rate. Folks, it really isn't that difficult if you have a brain. Sorry, lefties, perhaps that leaves you all out.

 

[tyroneweaver]

GOP bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%

24 million would lose health insurance coverage under GOP's Obamacare replacement by 2026

The plan will force premiums up on our older, poorer Americans by 750%, which would be more than half of their income. 24 million would lose coverage in the next nine years.

GOP bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%

24 million would lose health insurance coverage under GOP's Obamacare replacement by 2026

The plan will force premiums up on our older, poorer Americans by 750%, which would be more than half of their income. 24 million would lose coverage in the next nine years.

Wow, jakestarkey turns conservative should be the headline.

 

[jc456]

GOP bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%

24 million would lose health insurance coverage under GOP's Obamacare replacement by 2026

The plan will force premiums up on our older, poorer Americans by 750%, which would be more than half of their income. 24 million would lose coverage in the next nine years.

funny shit to say the least. It's sad that a business unit can't move forward with the rest of the congress submitting the program. The CBO is looking at the bill like it is obummer care, which it is not. So there is no mandate for coverage. So one has to actually access the insurance companies and buy the insurance if the obummer care services end which they will be. The 24 million over ten years is based on those who may not purchase insurance, because they feel they don't need to. D'OH!!!!

Who pays the bill when a person has decided they dont want insurance, but has to enter a hospital for treatment?

who pays for it today? is there any difference from today?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hey but those that make $200,000 + a year get a super Tax Break, that is all that matters right?

it's called tax credits and the poor don't pay income tax nor do they actually pay in today. They are subsidized, it is funny the way the left loves to skew reality into their pretendland politics. The poor will maintain their coverage through medicare. D'OH, And those who don't have company provided healthcare receive the same tax credit as an individual who receives credit through their employer at the same rate. Folks, it really isn't that difficult if you have a brain. Sorry, lefties, perhaps that leaves you all out.

The reality, jc, is the poor get fucked and you know it. And I say it ever so kindly.

 

[jc456]

Hey but those that make $200,000 + a year get a super Tax Break, that is all that matters right?

it's called tax credits and the poor don't pay income tax nor do they actually pay in today. They are subsidized, it is funny the way the left loves to skew reality into their pretendland politics. The poor will maintain their coverage through medicare. D'OH, And those who don't have company provided healthcare receive the same tax credit as an individual who receives credit through their employer at the same rate. Folks, it really isn't that difficult if you have a brain. Sorry, lefties, perhaps that leaves you all out.

The reality, jc, is the poor get fucked and you know it. And I say it ever so kindly.

how do the poor get fked? explain for us. I know that is the left narrative, so prove it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hey but those that make $200,000 + a year get a super Tax Break, that is all that matters right?

it's called tax credits and the poor don't pay income tax nor do they actually pay in today. They are subsidized, it is funny the way the left loves to skew reality into their pretendland politics. The poor will maintain their coverage through medicare. D'OH, And those who don't have company provided healthcare receive the same tax credit as an individual who receives credit through their employer at the same rate. Folks, it really isn't that difficult if you have a brain. Sorry, lefties, perhaps that leaves you all out.

The reality, jc, is the poor get fucked and you know it. And I say it ever so kindly.

how do the poor get fked? explain for us. I know that is the left narrative, so prove it.

Now you are trolling, so, to you, you don't get "just once more."

 

[jc456]

Hey but those that make $200,000 + a year get a super Tax Break, that is all that matters right?

it's called tax credits and the poor don't pay income tax nor do they actually pay in today. They are subsidized, it is funny the way the left loves to skew reality into their pretendland politics. The poor will maintain their coverage through medicare. D'OH, And those who don't have company provided healthcare receive the same tax credit as an individual who receives credit through their employer at the same rate. Folks, it really isn't that difficult if you have a brain. Sorry, lefties, perhaps that leaves you all out.

The reality, jc, is the poor get fucked and you know it. And I say it ever so kindly.

how do the poor get fked? explain for us. I know that is the left narrative, so prove it.

Now you are trolling, so, to you, you don't get "just once more."

oh so now trolling is asking you to post what you stated meant? wow dude you are a sore loser.

So again, how is it the poor are gonna be fked? explain for us and stop deflecting.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hey but those that make $200,000 + a year get a super Tax Break, that is all that matters right?

it's called tax credits and the poor don't pay income tax nor do they actually pay in today. They are subsidized, it is funny the way the left loves to skew reality into their pretendland politics. The poor will maintain their coverage through medicare. D'OH, And those who don't have company provided healthcare receive the same tax credit as an individual who receives credit through their employer at the same rate. Folks, it really isn't that difficult if you have a brain. Sorry, lefties, perhaps that leaves you all out.

The reality, jc, is the poor get fucked and you know it. And I say it ever so kindly.

how do the poor get fked? explain for us. I know that is the left narrative, so prove it.

Now you are trolling, so, to you, you don't get "just once more."

oh so now trolling is asking you to post what you stated meant? wow dude you are a sore loser.

So again, how is it the poor are gonna be fked? explain for us and stop deflecting.

^^^ vvvv

 

[jc456]

it's called tax credits and the poor don't pay income tax nor do they actually pay in today. They are subsidized, it is funny the way the left loves to skew reality into their pretendland politics. The poor will maintain their coverage through medicare. D'OH, And those who don't have company provided healthcare receive the same tax credit as an individual who receives credit through their employer at the same rate. Folks, it really isn't that difficult if you have a brain. Sorry, lefties, perhaps that leaves you all out.

The reality, jc, is the poor get fucked and you know it. And I say it ever so kindly.

how do the poor get fked? explain for us. I know that is the left narrative, so prove it.

Now you are trolling, so, to you, you don't get "just once more."

oh so now trolling is asking you to post what you stated meant? wow dude you are a sore loser.

So again, how is it the poor are gonna be fked? explain for us and stop deflecting.

^^^

so you got nothing, just words spewed out on a message board. gotcha. still makes you a sore loser whether you laugh or not.

 

[Billo_Really]

Fuck you too. I hate commies.

How many will be uninsured when the ACA collapses under its' own weight? Did the CBO mention that?

I'm not a commie and the ACA isn't collapsing.

For 8 years the republicans didn't do anything except obstruct everything the previous administration tried to do to help Americans. And after 8 years of not doing shit for this country, we get all this shit you're doing to the country.

 

[Old Rocks]

GOP bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%

24 million would lose health insurance coverage under GOP's Obamacare replacement by 2026

The plan will force premiums up on our older, poorer Americans by 750%, which would be more than half of their income. 24 million would lose coverage in the next nine years.

Trump doesn't have a health care plan.
This is Ryancare.

EPIC FAIL DUE TO A LYING OP

The orange clown is stating that he supports the plan, even as Breibart and Bannon are stabbing Ryan in the back. Very interesting. I guess if this keeps up, the clown will have created a climate for the use of the 25th Amendment.

 

[Old Rocks]

GOP bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%

24 million would lose health insurance coverage under GOP's Obamacare replacement by 2026

The plan will force premiums up on our older, poorer Americans by 750%, which would be more than half of their income. 24 million would lose coverage in the next nine years.

Fuck Donald Trump and fuck the people who voted for him.

Well, the people that voted for him are going to be fucked, for sure. But, that is what they voted for.

 

[JakeStarkey]

GOP bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%

24 million would lose health insurance coverage under GOP's Obamacare replacement by 2026

The plan will force premiums up on our older, poorer Americans by 750%, which would be more than half of their income. 24 million would lose coverage in the next nine years.

Trump doesn't have a health care plan.
This is Ryancare.

EPIC FAIL DUE TO A LYING OP

Lying' Mud and mudtx and the rest failing to say that Trump backed the plan.

 

[Old Rocks]

GOP bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%

24 million would lose health insurance coverage under GOP's Obamacare replacement by 2026

The plan will force premiums up on our older, poorer Americans by 750%, which would be more than half of their income. 24 million would lose coverage in the next nine years.

Trump doesn't have a health care plan.
This is Ryancare.

EPIC FAIL DUE TO A LYING OP

Trump enthusiastically supported it making it Trumpcare

We don't enthusiastically support any government controlled health care plan or mandate. ACA should be repealed and restrictions lifted and let the free market handle it, and do everything we can do lower costs. Dems started this clusterfuck when they passed the ACA against the will of the American people.

Well that would definately usher in a universal singe payer system.

 

[brummelben]

GOP bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%

24 million would lose health insurance coverage under GOP's Obamacare replacement by 2026

The plan will force premiums up on our older, poorer Americans by 750%, which would be more than half of their income. 24 million would lose coverage in the next nine years.

Trump doesn't have a health care plan.
This is Ryancare.

EPIC FAIL DUE TO A LYING OP

Trump enthusiastically supported it making it Trumpcare

No. Trump is open to negotiations. It would be Trumpcare if he was forcing it down our throats the way Obama forced the ACA down our throats.
I guess the facts don't matter when you're dealing with lying liberals.....but what else is new.

The primary negative according to the CBO seems to be that removing the mandate will cause 14 million to decide not to buy health insurance. But details are a sticky subject these days I suppose.

How exactly was the ACA forced down your throat? it was voted on and approved by Congress

 

[brummelben]

This bill does an excellent job at reducing the deficit plus makes some give up luxuries like nights out, cell phones etc. to pay for healthcare. Decisions responsible Americans were making Pre Obama Failcare.

-Geaux

Does giving up a cell phone pay for healthcare, studly?

 

[2aguy]

GOP bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%

24 million would lose health insurance coverage under GOP's Obamacare replacement by 2026

The plan will force premiums up on our older, poorer Americans by 750%, which would be more than half of their income. 24 million would lose coverage in the next nine years.

What did they say about obamacare...? We now have years of obamacare....what did they say and were they right? That would be the question to ask before you ask about Trumpcare.....

 

[Old Rocks]

Are Leftists really this stupid?

Healthy young people are required by law to purchase insurance under ACA. Under the Ryan plan, this penalty/tax does not exist, so many will elect to self-insure - which statistically can be the best choice. The CBO is reported to conclude, "24 million WOULD LOSE HEALTH COVERAGE..."

You gotta be fuckin' kidding me! 24 million will DECIDE NOT TO PURCHASE INSURANCE, and they will POCKET THE MONEY they would have spent on unnecessary insurance coverage.

That is EXACTLY like saying that I will LOSE my new Mercedes because I decided not to buy it. It's fucking Bizzarro World shit.

And as for Older Fukkers (of which community I am one), it is a fundamental fact of INSURANCE that when you fall into a higher risk group, your PREMIUMS GO UP! Furthermore, as a general proposition, as you go through life in these United States, you accumulate wealth (if not income), and people in their, let's say, 50's can much more easily afford higher premiums than those same people could have afforded in their 20's and 30's.

Keep in mind, the Ryan plan continues the protection for people with expensive pre-existing conditions, who were one of the main beneficiaries of ACA.

Yes, Leftists apparently ARE this stupid.

Well, asshole, the people like you are going to insure the adaption of a universal single payer system in this nation, like those all the rest of the first world industrial nations.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Yup. And this was the best Ryan could do.

Don't forget about Trump who praises the bill.

 

[Dragonlady]

Are Leftists really this stupid?

Healthy young people are required by law to purchase insurance under ACA. Under the Ryan plan, this penalty/tax does not exist, so many will elect to self-insure - which statistically can be the best choice. The CBO is reported to conclude, "24 million WOULD LOSE HEALTH COVERAGE..."

You gotta be fuckin' kidding me! 24 million will DECIDE NOT TO PURCHASE INSURANCE, and they will POCKET THE MONEY they would have spent on unnecessary insurance coverage.

That is EXACTLY like saying that I will LOSE my new Mercedes because I decided not to buy it. It's fucking Bizzarro World shit.

And as for Older Fukkers (of which community I am one), it is a fundamental fact of INSURANCE that when you fall into a higher risk group, your PREMIUMS GO UP! Furthermore, as a general proposition, as you go through life in these United States, you accumulate wealth (if not income), and people in their, let's say, 50's can much more easily afford higher premiums than those same people could have afforded in their 20's and 30's.

Keep in mind, the Ryan plan continues the protection for people with expensive pre-existing conditions, who were one of the main beneficiaries of ACA.

Yes, Leftists apparently ARE this stupid.

If having 35 million uninsured Americans was such a great thing for your economy, why was the cost medical care and medical insurance eating up nearly 1/3 of your economy and premium costs were rising far faster than Obamacare