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You have not made an argument, only several ineffective angry statements.
SC
I don't have to provide evidence to refute opinions that collapse because of obvious internal inconsistency.
Your opinion bub is not evidence. The Word does not stand alone.
^^^ snit fit ^^^
You cannot long for something which you have never had.
Everyone had a mother and father.
They're also bullies.Wow, you have no argument unless you lie and put words in my mouth, good thing my back ain't turned to you.Seems the only voice in this debate, is the voice of the Homosexual and the Activist. Now its time to here from the children being adopted into, "families". Children know right from wrong despite what the "experts", think.
Child of lesbian couple speaks out against gay marriage Denny Burk
Contrary to what the gay lobby claims, Lopez writes, children raised by same-sex parents “deeply feel the loss of a father or mother, no matter how much we love our gay parents.”
These children know they are “powerless to stop the decision to deprive them of a father or mother,” he adds. And this decision comes with serious and often permanent consequences. For instance, they “feel disconnected from the gender cues of people around them,” and long for a role model of the opposite sex.
While they love the people who raised them, they experience anger at their decision to deprive them of one or both biological parents—and “shame or guilt for resenting their loving parents.”
The so-called “consensus” by psychologists and pediatricians on the soundness of same-sex parenting is, Lopez writes, “frankly bogus.” The truth is, there is no data to support that assertion.
Instead, as political scientists Leon Kass of the University of Chicago and Harvey Mansfield of Harvard University note, “Claims that science provides support for constitutionalizing a right to same-sex marriage must rest necessarily on ideology”—and “ideology is not science.”
Oh, so having 2 gay moms makes you want to have butt sex with dudes? I want to read the science on that one.
Look, gay marriage and gays with children are 2 VERY different topics.
Either way, I know a couple of gay girls that cant get married that are WAY better parents than some of my Christian family/friends.
One thing is certain, a male child of 2 women wants a mans perspective on life.....Again, this has nothing to do with butt sex you sick OP.
Gee, liberal democrats are bigots.
The OP is simply one person testifying. That is not an allegation, just a fact. What part of his testimony do you take issue with.LiarSeems the only voice in this debate, is the voice of the Homosexual and the Activist. Now its time to here from the children being adopted into, "families". Children know right from wrong despite what the "experts", think.
Child of lesbian couple speaks out against gay marriage Denny Burk
Can't miss something you've never known as with missing both mother and a father if you've never had that. And if you have and thus miss it, it's merely a change of status to be adapted to. There's no inherit benefit to male-female parents vs homosexual parents.
How many male-female marriages end where children are raised by just one parent? Are we proposing to forbid divorce now since both parents do so much better than just one?
First, lets start at the end of your statement, are we to forbid divorce? We certainly discourage divorce as any man who has went through divorce can attest to so you are kind of wrong thinking there are no restrictions or incentives not to divorce, especially with children and a mother that does not work.
Further, there is nothing we can do about divorce or death, so that is the natural way of things.
Second, children adopted into a homosexual man-man relationship, are forced into a family of your design and your choosing, a relationship that for the first time in history is a government/activist designed ruled and regulated relationship. So when there is a divorce or death in this New Social Unit of your design, any failure is thus a failure you have created. You will put children into that situation. Much different than being born into that situation.
Third, "Can't miss something you've never known". a statement more applicable is, "Can't understand something you've never lived".
Actually there is a benefit to having a Mother and Father, Mommy and Daddy make us, so that is one minor benefit.
Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.
This has to one of the most ignorant things I have ever encountered in this forum;
Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.
Obviously you have never been a parent yourself which probably explains why you are so ignorant.
Anyone can be a parent. Big Brothers/Big Sisters are actually substitute parents. An aunt, uncle or even just a neighbor can be a parent. There are Foster Parents. None of them have to be either the mother or the father of the child being parented.
You are an epic failure when it comes to providing a single shred of "proof" to support your bogus allegation.
Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon. Regardless of what move I make, the pigeon is going to knock all the pieces over, crap on the board, then strut around like he won.
Sorry but yes they have. Science is a bit beyond for some.
You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.
The percentage of hetero couples compared to the percentage of same sex couples and then find the percentage of "so-called" troubled children from each category, that is the percentage that you compare.
Again you have no idea what you are talking about.
But try doing the percentage of troubled children from hetero sexual couples and compared to same sex couples.
Get back to us when the math makes sense.
You think the percentage is different? 99.9999999999999999999999999 % of all people are from the same source
Of course 100% of all people are from opposite sex coupling.
Tell me you knew that
Same sex coupling has never produced a child.
Sorry if you were unaware if that
Please name one child born with shared DNA of two males or two females.
I am not the one who claims or makes posts based on what I call, "Studies". Link to where I have, or quote where I have said my study trumps your study.yea, I know, you people got a bunch of studies, well, post them studies so we can see how all you got is well thought out talking points in which to steer the debate.
Post the studies you'll ignore again? Studies like the Australian study, the Tufts University Study or the University of California San Francisco study. How about the Florida State University study that looked at adopted kids?
Australian children with same-sex attracted parents score higher than population samples on a number of parent-reported measures of child health. Perceived stigma is negatively associated with mental health. Through improved awareness of stigma these findings play an important role in health policy, improving child health outcomes.
Results confirm previous studies in this current body of literature, suggesting that children raised by same-sex parents fare equally well to children raised by heterosexual parents.
Adolescents who have been reared in lesbian-mother families since birth demonstrate healthy psychological adjustment. These findings have implications for the clinical care of adolescents and for pediatricians who are consulted on matters that pertain to same-sex parenting.
Children of all family types (including children of same-sex couples) are far more likely to make normal progress through school than are children living in group quarters (such as orphanages and shelters).
Now where are YOUR studies, Elektra? In this game of "I'll show you mine if you show me yours", you are woefully short.
The OP is simply one person testifying. That is not an allegation, just a fact. What part of his testimony do you take issue with.LiarCan't miss something you've never known as with missing both mother and a father if you've never had that. And if you have and thus miss it, it's merely a change of status to be adapted to. There's no inherit benefit to male-female parents vs homosexual parents.
How many male-female marriages end where children are raised by just one parent? Are we proposing to forbid divorce now since both parents do so much better than just one?
First, lets start at the end of your statement, are we to forbid divorce? We certainly discourage divorce as any man who has went through divorce can attest to so you are kind of wrong thinking there are no restrictions or incentives not to divorce, especially with children and a mother that does not work.
Further, there is nothing we can do about divorce or death, so that is the natural way of things.
Second, children adopted into a homosexual man-man relationship, are forced into a family of your design and your choosing, a relationship that for the first time in history is a government/activist designed ruled and regulated relationship. So when there is a divorce or death in this New Social Unit of your design, any failure is thus a failure you have created. You will put children into that situation. Much different than being born into that situation.
Third, "Can't miss something you've never known". a statement more applicable is, "Can't understand something you've never lived".
Actually there is a benefit to having a Mother and Father, Mommy and Daddy make us, so that is one minor benefit.
Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.
This has to one of the most ignorant things I have ever encountered in this forum;
Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.
Obviously you have never been a parent yourself which probably explains why you are so ignorant.
Anyone can be a parent. Big Brothers/Big Sisters are actually substitute parents. An aunt, uncle or even just a neighbor can be a parent. There are Foster Parents. None of them have to be either the mother or the father of the child being parented.
You are an epic failure when it comes to providing a single shred of "proof" to support your bogus allegation.
Trying to reason with someone from the right is impossible because they always ignore facts and truth.
Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon. Regardless of what move I make, the pigeon is going to knock all the pieces over, crap on the board, then strut around like he won.
You have not made an argument, only several ineffective angry statements.
SC
I don't have to provide evidence to refute opinions that collapse because of obvious internal inconsistency.
Your opinion bub is not evidence. The Word does not stand alone.
^^^ snit fit ^^^
Pop, why are you snitting. There has been no qualitative or philosophical evidence that indicates marriage equality should not come to pass. Anyone's religious belief about it is immaterial. Children are as safe in LGBT homes. SCOTUS will make the final determination next year, I rhink.
Texas executed Lisa Coleman on Wednesday evening. Coleman was the ninth person executed by Texas this year — more than any other state – and the 30th inmate executed in the United States over the same span.
This is a credible resource, but it is just one family. It would be a very interesting study to to interview the children of gay couples for it is their lives and experiences that matter, not those of psychologists, psychiatrists or social workers.
There have been plenty of studies of children raised by gay parents that show no discernible difference in how they were raised as opposed to heterosexual parents.
This anecdote concerns an adopted child and many adoptees have "abandonment" issues since they question why they ended up being adopted in the first place. It is unlikely that this child is any different to other adoptees in his feelings and being raised by a loving gay couple probably has nothing to do with why he feels this way.
The OP has an agenda and appears to be exploiting this child in order to further his agenda. That much was obvious from the biased slant of the text in the link.
The OP is simply one person testifying. That is not an allegation, just a fact. What part of his testimony do you take issue with.LiarFirst, lets start at the end of your statement, are we to forbid divorce? We certainly discourage divorce as any man who has went through divorce can attest to so you are kind of wrong thinking there are no restrictions or incentives not to divorce, especially with children and a mother that does not work.
Further, there is nothing we can do about divorce or death, so that is the natural way of things.
Second, children adopted into a homosexual man-man relationship, are forced into a family of your design and your choosing, a relationship that for the first time in history is a government/activist designed ruled and regulated relationship. So when there is a divorce or death in this New Social Unit of your design, any failure is thus a failure you have created. You will put children into that situation. Much different than being born into that situation.
Third, "Can't miss something you've never known". a statement more applicable is, "Can't understand something you've never lived".
Actually there is a benefit to having a Mother and Father, Mommy and Daddy make us, so that is one minor benefit.
Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.
This has to one of the most ignorant things I have ever encountered in this forum;
Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.
Obviously you have never been a parent yourself which probably explains why you are so ignorant.
Anyone can be a parent. Big Brothers/Big Sisters are actually substitute parents. An aunt, uncle or even just a neighbor can be a parent. There are Foster Parents. None of them have to be either the mother or the father of the child being parented.
You are an epic failure when it comes to providing a single shred of "proof" to support your bogus allegation.
I take issue with his attempts to blame all his woes on the nature of his homelife as a child.
Post the studies you'll ignore again? Studies like the Australian study, the Tufts University Study or the University of California San Francisco study. How about the Florida State University study that looked at adopted kids?
Now where are YOUR studies, Elektra? In this game of "I'll show you mine if you show me yours", you are woefully short.
Welcome to the Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families (ACHESS).
**NEWS**
August 2014: The adolescent perspectives on health and wellbeing from the ACHESS have now been published here.
July 2014: The first official results from the ACHESS, reporting on parent-response measures of health and wellbeing, have now been published in BMC Public Health. The paper can be foundhere.
More results will be available soon.
Conclusions
Positive health outcomes are informed by the ways adolescents conceptualize health and how they construct their spheres of life. Peer relationships, and community perspectives of same-sex families, inform perceived stigma and its correlation with poorer health and well-being. Although adolescents see their families as essentially normal they are negatively affected by external societal stigma.
At times these categories would be clearly demarcated but some adolescents, like 16-year-old Joel, would blur the distinction as they described social families and contexts where friends are seen as part of the family, being just as important as, or in some cases more important than, biological ties.
This is a credible resource, but it is just one family. It would be a very interesting study to to interview the children of gay couples for it is their lives and experiences that matter, not those of psychologists, psychiatrists or social workers.
There have been plenty of studies of children raised by gay parents that show no discernible difference in how they were raised as opposed to heterosexual parents.
This anecdote concerns an adopted child and many adoptees have "abandonment" issues since they question why they ended up being adopted in the first place. It is unlikely that this child is any different to other adoptees in his feelings and being raised by a loving gay couple probably has nothing to do with why he feels this way.
The OP has an agenda and appears to be exploiting this child in order to further his agenda. That much was obvious from the biased slant of the text in the link.
I agree with all but the last paragraph, in your post, Te.
I do not judge the OP's intentions.
Adoptees in general would have abandonment issues, and most children reared in a one-parent family may also resent the absence of an opposite sex role model. May this be the worst thing to afflict them through adulthood.
I like the idea of kids having two loving parents, regardless of gender. No childhood is perfect and adversity builds strength.
The OP is simply one person testifying. That is not an allegation, just a fact. What part of his testimony do you take issue with.LiarThis has to one of the most ignorant things I have ever encountered in this forum;
Obviously you have never been a parent yourself which probably explains why you are so ignorant.
Anyone can be a parent. Big Brothers/Big Sisters are actually substitute parents. An aunt, uncle or even just a neighbor can be a parent. There are Foster Parents. None of them have to be either the mother or the father of the child being parented.
You are an epic failure when it comes to providing a single shred of "proof" to support your bogus allegation.
I take issue with his attempts to blame all his woes on the nature of his homelife as a child.
One day an employee came to me and said her young schoolteacher's daughter was going to marry for the first time and the fiance would soon be in my business to bring her something.
He came in; my employee introduced the young man to me and he was very polite and friendly. I noticed though, his many effeminate gestures and later mentioned it to her as I was curious about it all.
My employee told me he had been adopted as a baby and reared by two lesbians.
I have long wondered how the marriage turned out and can only hope, wonderfully.
I have known married men with effeminate gestures. Their female wives and marriages appeared to be content.
Once more, I am in favor of two loving people of the same sex, adopting children. There are no guarantees any child is going to turn out just fine, under even the best circumstances and so-called ideal parents.
The OP is simply one person testifying. That is not an allegation, just a fact. What part of his testimony do you take issue with.LiarCan't miss something you've never known as with missing both mother and a father if you've never had that. And if you have and thus miss it, it's merely a change of status to be adapted to. There's no inherit benefit to male-female parents vs homosexual parents.
How many male-female marriages end where children are raised by just one parent? Are we proposing to forbid divorce now since both parents do so much better than just one?
First, lets start at the end of your statement, are we to forbid divorce? We certainly discourage divorce as any man who has went through divorce can attest to so you are kind of wrong thinking there are no restrictions or incentives not to divorce, especially with children and a mother that does not work.
Further, there is nothing we can do about divorce or death, so that is the natural way of things.
Second, children adopted into a homosexual man-man relationship, are forced into a family of your design and your choosing, a relationship that for the first time in history is a government/activist designed ruled and regulated relationship. So when there is a divorce or death in this New Social Unit of your design, any failure is thus a failure you have created. You will put children into that situation. Much different than being born into that situation.
Third, "Can't miss something you've never known". a statement more applicable is, "Can't understand something you've never lived".
Actually there is a benefit to having a Mother and Father, Mommy and Daddy make us, so that is one minor benefit.
Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.
This has to one of the most ignorant things I have ever encountered in this forum;
Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.
Obviously you have never been a parent yourself which probably explains why you are so ignorant.
Anyone can be a parent. Big Brothers/Big Sisters are actually substitute parents. An aunt, uncle or even just a neighbor can be a parent. There are Foster Parents. None of them have to be either the mother or the father of the child being parented.
You are an epic failure when it comes to providing a single shred of "proof" to support your bogus allegation.
