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Lol, no, they are not. They cant actually conceive children which kills the demographic growth rates and they are the disease Super Highway of our nation.As someone who has very good gay friends and have gays that are raising children your comments only show how ignorant you are in regards to gays. If you were to see them and hear them talk on the street you wouldn't even be able tomtellmtheybare gay until they hold their hands.
Grow up, gays are exactly the same as everyone else living next to you
Because the law of the land is not the highest law we are obligated to obey.[
Why do you think anyone should be obligated to care about, let alone adhere to or believe in the writings of your or someone else's religious book or beliefs? If a business person will not follow court interpretations of the Constitution they should get into another business. What makes you so sure the mark is on those you disagree with. Maybe that mark is on you and folks like the bakers. I just can't imagine the figure of Jesus would side with the bakers. He would probably turn that 10 lb. bag of flour into enough cakes to feed everyone who showed up no matter what kind of people they were. He wouldn't care if some of them wanted to use his cakes as wedding cakes. Those bakers, whether by mistake of by malicious intent, are fake Christians.
God's Law is, you degenerate.
Lol, no, they are not. They cant actually conceive children which kills the demographic growth rates and they are the disease Super Highway of our nation.As someone who has very good gay friends and have gays that are raising children your comments only show how ignorant you are in regards to gays. If you were to see them and hear them talk on the street you wouldn't even be able tomtellmtheybare gay until they hold their hands.
Grow up, gays are exactly the same as everyone else living next to you
I could go on but I try to not waster a lot of time on ignoramuses like yourself.
You wont be laughing next January, I'm sure of that.
Is that the 'use by' date for gay marriage? lol
If it didn't matter, then the gay couple could have bought any cake off the shelf and called it a wedding cake.In the past, I have been on the side of the Christian baker. I don't think they should be compelled to make or decorate a specific cake that would somehow violate their religion. What I would like to know is how the wedding cake for the gay couple would be any different than the cakes made for heterosexual couples. Did the lesbians want two brides on top of the cake? I believe the baker should have the final artistic control the cakes she decorates and thus be able to deny to make cakes decorated in a manner she finds offensive.As much as I and many others may hate it, you are right for practical purposes, the constitution says what the courts and ultimately the supreme court interpret it to say. I will not be surprised if the next ruling says that the constitution means "pineapple".Behaviors aren't protected in the Constitution outside religion. Has the cult of LGBT gotten tax exempt status, declaring themselves as a religion? No? Then there is no protection. Even if there was, no religion can force others to practice it. A Christian couldn't force a member of the Church of LGBT to print giant highway billboards that read "Homosexuality is an abomination before God", for instance...A Muslim can't force a jew to advertise for "Pork, the other white meat". A Mormon can't force a Muslim to print a picture of a cartoon of Muhammed.
Bullroar. Speech is a behavior.
One that is explicitly affirmed and protected under the First Amendment, along with religion.
And inherent in the right to express what one believes and supports, is equally a right not to be compelled to express that which one does not believe or support.
Yep. They're gonna lose this one. This time, the law is clear and concise. The Constitution would have be fundamentally rewritten in two of the Amendments for the church of LGBT to get a victory on this one...
Except of course, they didn't. The Supreme Court already allowed the lower court rulings to stand and denied Cert. Exactly as they did for Kim Davis.
See, Sil....it doesn't matter what you and Bob tell each other about what the constitution means. It matters what the law and courts recognize the constitution to mean. And your pseudo-legal gibberish ignores the law and the courts and replaces both with your imagination.
Alas, your imagination is functionally irrelevant to actual legal outcomes. Which might explain why your every legal prediction, without exception, is wrong.
This isn't a 'liberal/Conservative' thing. THe justice I'm quoting that explicitly contradicts the 'religion trumps civil law' meme is Justice Scalia. Arguably the most conservative justice on the court until his passing. This is well established in our system of law. And frankly, should be.
As 'free excercise' doesn't mean immunity to any law you disagree with. If it did, we'd be 'courting anarchy', as Scalia put it. As religion is so diverse and the standard of 'religious belief' so utterly subjective that virtually all law would be voluntary. Its essentially a religiously based 'Sovereign Citizen' argument.
Worse, faux 'religious liberty' Christians don't think this through. If religious belief alone allows Christians to be exempted from any law they disagree with......the same is true of any religious person. Sharia law is suddenly elevated as supreme over all US civil law. With any Muslim being the sole arbiter of whether or not any US law applies to them.
Oh, and I love your handle. Its hilarious!
On the other hand, if the wedding cake for the lesbian couple was not different than a wedding cake for a straight couple, then the baker should have made the cake. Suposely, they had no problem selling off the shelf baked goods to the couple for a while. Its just a cake damnit!
Did they refuse to sell apple pies to teenage boys (ref. The movie American Pie)
I used your own words- where you said business's have always been able to discriminate- and of course business's haven't been able to do that for 50 years now.
A typical Marxist piece of bullshit.
You wont be laughing next January, I'm sure of that.Here is an illustration of perversion
Ah, man, if you hate him this much already, you are going to have a very difficult 8 years ahead of you.
LOL- I think he is comical- a perversion- but comical.
You wont be laughing next January, I'm sure of that.
Is that the 'use by' date for gay marriage? lol
The primary concern I have and others who appreciate our Western Civilization is that we restore Christian norms to society, as the current secular norms are hideous, evil and self destructive.
So all I see any of us having as a goal is to restore the recognition of fags as perverts in the popular culture and to changing the laws so that at best you fags have Civil Unions, not marriage.
Failing that there is the option of pushing the 'Covenant Marriage' concept, making that the norm for Christians in this country and making it too odious for fags to get involved in.
No one plans on tossing your sorry asses into ovens, etc.
Traditional couples usually special order wedding cakes.If it didn't matter, then the gay couple could have bought any cake off the shelf and called it a wedding cake.In the past, I have been on the side of the Christian baker. I don't think they should be compelled to make or decorate a specific cake that would somehow violate their religion. What I would like to know is how the wedding cake for the gay couple would be any different than the cakes made for heterosexual couples. Did the lesbians want two brides on top of the cake? I believe the baker should have the final artistic control the cakes she decorates and thus be able to deny to make cakes decorated in a manner she finds offensive.As much as I and many others may hate it, you are right for practical purposes, the constitution says what the courts and ultimately the supreme court interpret it to say. I will not be surprised if the next ruling says that the constitution means "pineapple".Yep. They're gonna lose this one. This time, the law is clear and concise. The Constitution would have be fundamentally rewritten in two of the Amendments for the church of LGBT to get a victory on this one...
Except of course, they didn't. The Supreme Court already allowed the lower court rulings to stand and denied Cert. Exactly as they did for Kim Davis.
See, Sil....it doesn't matter what you and Bob tell each other about what the constitution means. It matters what the law and courts recognize the constitution to mean. And your pseudo-legal gibberish ignores the law and the courts and replaces both with your imagination.
Alas, your imagination is functionally irrelevant to actual legal outcomes. Which might explain why your every legal prediction, without exception, is wrong.
This isn't a 'liberal/Conservative' thing. THe justice I'm quoting that explicitly contradicts the 'religion trumps civil law' meme is Justice Scalia. Arguably the most conservative justice on the court until his passing. This is well established in our system of law. And frankly, should be.
As 'free excercise' doesn't mean immunity to any law you disagree with. If it did, we'd be 'courting anarchy', as Scalia put it. As religion is so diverse and the standard of 'religious belief' so utterly subjective that virtually all law would be voluntary. Its essentially a religiously based 'Sovereign Citizen' argument.
Worse, faux 'religious liberty' Christians don't think this through. If religious belief alone allows Christians to be exempted from any law they disagree with......the same is true of any religious person. Sharia law is suddenly elevated as supreme over all US civil law. With any Muslim being the sole arbiter of whether or not any US law applies to them.
Oh, and I love your handle. Its hilarious!
On the other hand, if the wedding cake for the lesbian couple was not different than a wedding cake for a straight couple, then the baker should have made the cake. Suposely, they had no problem selling off the shelf baked goods to the couple for a while. Its just a cake damnit!
Did they refuse to sell apple pies to teenage boys (ref. The movie American Pie)
I go to a Muslim owned bakery in Westwood. I've been in there when a gay couple tried to order a wedding cake and got told to choose any cake on the shelf.
So you treat people differently based on whether they can reproduce?
And btw gays marrying brings down the so called disease excuse that you and others like to throw around. You must be as perfect as Jesus to pronounce others of their sins
Hey, American Taliban. Fundamentalist Christian trash. Jesus makes a face whenever he sees people like you and resents that promise of loving and forgiving all.Because the law of the land is not the highest law we are obligated to obey.[
Why do you think anyone should be obligated to care about, let alone adhere to or believe in the writings of your or someone else's religious book or beliefs? If a business person will not follow court interpretations of the Constitution they should get into another business. What makes you so sure the mark is on those you disagree with. Maybe that mark is on you and folks like the bakers. I just can't imagine the figure of Jesus would side with the bakers. He would probably turn that 10 lb. bag of flour into enough cakes to feed everyone who showed up no matter what kind of people they were. He wouldn't care if some of them wanted to use his cakes as wedding cakes. Those bakers, whether by mistake of by malicious intent, are fake Christians.
God's Law is, you degenerate.
You think I made this up?As you conveniently leave out the link to the post.QUOTE=Odium
"The ultimate goal is white genocide. Plus any white "woman" that would lower themselves to the level of beastiality is better off ending the blood line they are ending...because something OBVIOUSLY got messed up in their genetics. My ex sister is a disgusting race mixing whore with 2 UGLY nigglets with their shit colored skin and kinky hair it must be depressing waking up every day to 2 kids that look NOTHING like you.I wouldn't know I married within my own race and have 4 awesome white children that have features of me and their mother."
New posters and people unfamiliar with the Trump supporter who wrote this horribly racist screed need to see just what kind of trash the OP is -- ICYMI
roflmao you libtards are too stupid to even lie well.
Hey, American Taliban. Fundamentalist Christian trash. Jesus makes a face whenever he sees people like you and resents that promise of loving and forgiving all.Because the law of the land is not the highest law we are obligated to obey.[
Why do you think anyone should be obligated to care about, let alone adhere to or believe in the writings of your or someone else's religious book or beliefs? If a business person will not follow court interpretations of the Constitution they should get into another business. What makes you so sure the mark is on those you disagree with. Maybe that mark is on you and folks like the bakers. I just can't imagine the figure of Jesus would side with the bakers. He would probably turn that 10 lb. bag of flour into enough cakes to feed everyone who showed up no matter what kind of people they were. He wouldn't care if some of them wanted to use his cakes as wedding cakes. Those bakers, whether by mistake of by malicious intent, are fake Christians.
God's Law is, you degenerate.
The gay couple tried to special order a cake. The bakery doesn't do special orders. Just take one off the shelf.Traditional couples usually special order wedding cakes.If it didn't matter, then the gay couple could have bought any cake off the shelf and called it a wedding cake.In the past, I have been on the side of the Christian baker. I don't think they should be compelled to make or decorate a specific cake that would somehow violate their religion. What I would like to know is how the wedding cake for the gay couple would be any different than the cakes made for heterosexual couples. Did the lesbians want two brides on top of the cake? I believe the baker should have the final artistic control the cakes she decorates and thus be able to deny to make cakes decorated in a manner she finds offensive.As much as I and many others may hate it, you are right for practical purposes, the constitution says what the courts and ultimately the supreme court interpret it to say. I will not be surprised if the next ruling says that the constitution means "pineapple".Except of course, they didn't. The Supreme Court already allowed the lower court rulings to stand and denied Cert. Exactly as they did for Kim Davis.
See, Sil....it doesn't matter what you and Bob tell each other about what the constitution means. It matters what the law and courts recognize the constitution to mean. And your pseudo-legal gibberish ignores the law and the courts and replaces both with your imagination.
Alas, your imagination is functionally irrelevant to actual legal outcomes. Which might explain why your every legal prediction, without exception, is wrong.
This isn't a 'liberal/Conservative' thing. THe justice I'm quoting that explicitly contradicts the 'religion trumps civil law' meme is Justice Scalia. Arguably the most conservative justice on the court until his passing. This is well established in our system of law. And frankly, should be.
As 'free excercise' doesn't mean immunity to any law you disagree with. If it did, we'd be 'courting anarchy', as Scalia put it. As religion is so diverse and the standard of 'religious belief' so utterly subjective that virtually all law would be voluntary. Its essentially a religiously based 'Sovereign Citizen' argument.
Worse, faux 'religious liberty' Christians don't think this through. If religious belief alone allows Christians to be exempted from any law they disagree with......the same is true of any religious person. Sharia law is suddenly elevated as supreme over all US civil law. With any Muslim being the sole arbiter of whether or not any US law applies to them.
Oh, and I love your handle. Its hilarious!
On the other hand, if the wedding cake for the lesbian couple was not different than a wedding cake for a straight couple, then the baker should have made the cake. Suposely, they had no problem selling off the shelf baked goods to the couple for a while. Its just a cake damnit!
Did they refuse to sell apple pies to teenage boys (ref. The movie American Pie)
I go to a Muslim owned bakery in Westwood. I've been in there when a gay couple tried to order a wedding cake and got told to choose any cake on the shelf.
"While there have not been many legal tests of the “free-exercise” clause, existing precedence has generally held federal law superior to religious practice. In Reynolds v. United States (1878), the Mormon Church sued over the Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act in an attempt to continue their polygamist practices. The majority opinion declared that the law was constitutional since it neither interfered with religious belief nor selectively outlawed religious practice. “To permit this would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land,” wrote Chief Justice Morrison Waite, “and, in effect, permit every citizen to become a law unto himself. Government could exist only in name under such circumstances.”You wont be laughing next January, I'm sure of that.
Is that the 'use by' date for gay marriage? lol
The primary concern I have and others who appreciate our Western Civilization is that we restore Christian norms to society, as the current secular norms are hideous, evil and self destructive.
So all I see any of us having as a goal is to restore the recognition of fags as perverts in the popular culture and to changing the laws so that at best you fags have Civil Unions, not marriage.
Failing that there is the option of pushing the 'Covenant Marriage' concept, making that the norm for Christians in this country and making it too odious for fags to get involved in.
No one plans on tossing your sorry asses into ovens, etc.
So you treat people differently based on whether they can reproduce?
And btw gays marrying brings down the so called disease excuse that you and others like to throw around. You must be as perfect as Jesus to pronounce others of their sins
Thanks, I have had four bottles of New Belgium craft beer in the back of the fridge for months. Gonna go open one right now.Hey, American Taliban. Fundamentalist Christian trash. Jesus makes a face whenever he sees people like you and resents that promise of loving and forgiving all.Because the law of the land is not the highest law we are obligated to obey.[
Why do you think anyone should be obligated to care about, let alone adhere to or believe in the writings of your or someone else's religious book or beliefs? If a business person will not follow court interpretations of the Constitution they should get into another business. What makes you so sure the mark is on those you disagree with. Maybe that mark is on you and folks like the bakers. I just can't imagine the figure of Jesus would side with the bakers. He would probably turn that 10 lb. bag of flour into enough cakes to feed everyone who showed up no matter what kind of people they were. He wouldn't care if some of them wanted to use his cakes as wedding cakes. Those bakers, whether by mistake of by malicious intent, are fake Christians.
God's Law is, you degenerate.
Started the binge drinking a tad early today, didnja hun?
Yes they did. Free speech applies to corporations, unless you want to take away the right of Unions to supports a candidate.Why weren't gays married since the beginning of our Republic? The Founders never intend ended for it, so using the 14th as an excuse will be overturned by a rational Court.And same sex marriage is protected by the 14 th amendment
And the founders never consider corporations to be people either.
^^^. An example of when you lose the argument..
