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Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia
 
This is from Wikipedia.


Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia
This is a Current Event? Jesus is a Sham? Christians and Pagans all adopted holidays for gain? Wiki is your new God, Jim.
 
This is from Wikipedia.


Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia

Oh so here we have another thread--we will have many this month, I assume--wherein non-Christians attempt to make themselves feel better about wanting to celebrate Christmas, when all the year long they hate on Christians. So we will be treated all month long to diatribes about how Christmas is pagan; Christmas is at the wrong time of year; Christ wasn't really resurrected; Mary wasn't really a Virgin, and blah blah blah.

All so the angry atheists can have their Christmas too. That's how juvenile and petty they are.

How about this, angry atheists. How about you just celebrate Christmas and get over it. And let us celebrate Christmas without having to dump all over OUR Christmas too.

You whiny little children. :lame2:
 
This is from Wikipedia.


Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia

Oh so here we have another thread--we will have many this month, I assume--wherein non-Christians attempt to make themselves feel better about wanting to celebrate Christmas, when all the year long they hate on Christians. So we will be treated all month long to diatribes about how Christmas is pagan; Christmas is at the wrong time of year; Christ wasn't really resurrected; Mary wasn't really a Virgin, and blah blah blah.

All so the angry atheists can have their Christmas too. That's how juvenile and petty they are.

How about this, angry atheists. How about you just celebrate Christmas and get over it. And let us celebrate Christmas without having to dump all over OUR Christmas too.

You whiny little children. :lame2:
I don't think we need to "make ourselves feel better". I celebrate Christmas because I like tacky Christmas decorations and the excuse to.give presents to.my kids and such.
 
This is from Wikipedia.


Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia

Oh so here we have another thread--we will have many this month, I assume--wherein non-Christians attempt to make themselves feel better about wanting to celebrate Christmas, when all the year long they hate on Christians. So we will be treated all month long to diatribes about how Christmas is pagan; Christmas is at the wrong time of year; Christ wasn't really resurrected; Mary wasn't really a Virgin, and blah blah blah.

All so the angry atheists can have their Christmas too. That's how juvenile and petty they are.

How about this, angry atheists. How about you just celebrate Christmas and get over it. And let us celebrate Christmas without having to dump all over OUR Christmas too.

You whiny little children. :lame2:
I don't think we need to "make ourselves feel better". I celebrate Christmas because I like tacky Christmas decorations and the excuse to.give presents to.my kids and such.

Okay, this is Dec. 1st. Watch and see what happens, then. Watch these boards and other boards and see what whiny atheists do. Your Christmas is pagan, your Jesus Christ wasn't real and blah blah blah. Why so threatened atheists? And why so rude, too.

Just watch.
 
This is from Wikipedia.


Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia

Oh so here we have another thread--we will have many this month, I assume--wherein non-Christians attempt to make themselves feel better about wanting to celebrate Christmas, when all the year long they hate on Christians. So we will be treated all month long to diatribes about how Christmas is pagan; Christmas is at the wrong time of year; Christ wasn't really resurrected; Mary wasn't really a Virgin, and blah blah blah.

All so the angry atheists can have their Christmas too. That's how juvenile and petty they are.

How about this, angry atheists. How about you just celebrate Christmas and get over it. And let us celebrate Christmas without having to dump all over OUR Christmas too.

You whiny little children. :lame2:
I don't think we need to "make ourselves feel better". I celebrate Christmas because I like tacky Christmas decorations and the excuse to.give presents to.my kids and such.

Okay, this is Dec. 1st. Watch and see what happens, then. Watch these boards and other boards and see what whiny atheists do. Your Christmas is pagan, your Jesus Christ wasn't real and blah blah blah. Why so threatened atheists? And why so rude, too.

Just watch.
Secure in your beliefs, my friend.
You would not have to blah and blah about it if you did a little reading. It is a pagan celebration.
 
This is from Wikipedia.


Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia

Oh so here we have another thread--we will have many this month, I assume--wherein non-Christians attempt to make themselves feel better about wanting to celebrate Christmas, when all the year long they hate on Christians. So we will be treated all month long to diatribes about how Christmas is pagan; Christmas is at the wrong time of year; Christ wasn't really resurrected; Mary wasn't really a Virgin, and blah blah blah.

All so the angry atheists can have their Christmas too. That's how juvenile and petty they are.

How about this, angry atheists. How about you just celebrate Christmas and get over it. And let us celebrate Christmas without having to dump all over OUR Christmas too.

You whiny little children. :lame2:
I don't think we need to "make ourselves feel better". I celebrate Christmas because I like tacky Christmas decorations and the excuse to.give presents to.my kids and such.

Okay, this is Dec. 1st. Watch and see what happens, then. Watch these boards and other boards and see what whiny atheists do. Your Christmas is pagan, your Jesus Christ wasn't real and blah blah blah. Why so threatened atheists? And why so rude, too.

Just watch.
Secure in your beliefs, my friend.
You would not have to blah and blah about it if you did a little reading. It is a pagan celebration.

Then have your pagan celebration. By sure to sacrifice a child or two every few years.
 
This is from Wikipedia.


Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia
This is from Wikipedia.


Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia

Oh so here we have another thread--we will have many this month, I assume--wherein non-Christians attempt to make themselves feel better about wanting to celebrate Christmas, when all the year long they hate on Christians. So we will be treated all month long to diatribes about how Christmas is pagan; Christmas is at the wrong time of year; Christ wasn't really resurrected; Mary wasn't really a Virgin, and blah blah blah.

All so the angry atheists can have their Christmas too. That's how juvenile and petty they are.

How about this, angry atheists. How about you just celebrate Christmas and get over it. And let us celebrate Christmas without having to dump all over OUR Christmas too.

You whiny little children. :lame2:
I don't think we need to "make ourselves feel better". I celebrate Christmas because I like tacky Christmas decorations and the excuse to.give presents to.my kids and such.

Okay, this is Dec. 1st. Watch and see what happens, then. Watch these boards and other boards and see what whiny atheists do. Your Christmas is pagan, your Jesus Christ wasn't real and blah blah blah. Why so threatened atheists? And why so rude, too.

Just watch.
Secure in your beliefs, my friend.
You would not have to blah and blah about it if you did a little reading. It is a pagan celebration.

Then have your pagan celebration. By sure to sacrifice a child or two every few years.
Sacrificing children? Where did that come from? Anyway, I know my history and I love this time or year.
Solstice
 
There are numerous reasons we can be fairly sure Jesus was not born in December.

But does that really matter. It is when modern Christians celebrate the birth.

And why does anyone care that other people, of different faiths or no faith, celebrate Christmas? Why begrudge other their celebrations and joy? It is petty.
 
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There are numerous reasons we can be fairly sure Jesus was not born in December.

But does that really matter. It is when modern Christians celebrate the birth.

And why does anyone care that other people, of different faiths or no faith, celebrate Christmas? Why begrudge other their celebrations and joy? It is petty.

It's not the Christians doing this. We're not standing at the church doors saying, you're an atheist, you can't come in here and sing our "Silent Night" with the candles. You can't have our Nativity scene and our Christmas Eve. Please note that well.

It's the atheists telling US that WE can't have Christmas, and it has been that way for years. Christians can't have our Christmas because of all the reasons listed in the OP. They tell us this because they want to have Christmas guilt-free, and because they also deep-down have big axes to grind against Christianity, which makes the fact that they really want to celebrate Christmas grind all the harder.

So they do the usual: take it out on Christians.

It's petty, boring and small.

Do better, atheists.
 
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There are numerous reasons that we can be sure of that and The Jesus did not exist. They all did. I cherish this time of year.
 
There are numerous reasons we can be fairly sure Jesus was not born in December.

But does that really matter. It is when modern Christians celebrate the birth.

And why does anyone care that other people, of different faiths or no faith, celebrate Christmas? Why begrudge other their celebrations and joy? It is petty.

It's not the Christians doing this. We're not standing at the church doors saying, you're an atheist, you can't come in here and sing our "Silent Night" with the candles. You can't have our Nativity scene and our Christmas Eve. Please note that well.

It's the atheists telling US that WE can't have Christmas, and it has been that way for years. Christians can't have our Christmas because of all the reasons listed in the OP. They tell us this because they want to have Christmas guilt-free, and because they also deep-down have big axes to grind against Christianity, which makes the fact that they really want to celebrate Christmas grind all the harder.

So they do the usual: take it out on Christians.

It's petty, boring and small.

Do better, atheists.
You can't be serious, Sue? Are Atheists doing all those nasty things to Christmas? You? Picketing Santa Claus and the next church down the block. That's just nuts.
 
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There are numerous reasons that we can be sure of that and The Jesus did not exist. They all did. I cherish this time of year.

If you actually believe Jesus did not exist you are flying in the face of what most historians believe. That does not do you much credit, but whatever.

If you really worship the solstice....well, you already disbelieve history, so there it is.
 
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There are numerous reasons that we can be sure of that and The Jesus did not exist. They all did. I cherish this time of year.

If you actually believe Jesus did not exist you are flying in the face of what most historians believe. That does not do you much credit, but whatever.

If you really worship the solstice....well, you already disbelieve history, so there it is.
Well there it is. History. And facts. Nice chatting with you Sue. Christmas and Solstice are a wonderful time of the year.
 
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There are numerous reasons that we can be sure of that and The Jesus did not exist. They all did. I cherish this time of year.

If you actually believe Jesus did not exist you are flying in the face of what most historians believe. That does not do you much credit, but whatever.

If you really worship the solstice....well, you already disbelieve history, so there it is.
Well there it is. History. And facts. Nice chatting with you Sue. Christmas and Solstice are a wonderful time of the year.

You didn't offer any history or facts. I asked you a question: do you worship the solstice? That would be strange, wouldn't it, worshiping the solstice? It's just the earth rotating, isn't it? Very mysterious to primitive humans surely, but not to modern humans.

But okay.
 
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There are numerous reasons that we can be sure of that and The Jesus did not exist. They all did. I cherish this time of year.

If you actually believe Jesus did not exist you are flying in the face of what most historians believe. That does not do you much credit, but whatever.

If you really worship the solstice....well, you already disbelieve history, so there it is.
Well there it is. History. And facts. Nice chatting with you Sue. Christmas and Solstice are a wonderful time of the year.

You didn't offer any history or facts. I asked you a question: do you worship the solstice? That would be strange, wouldn't it, worshiping the solstice? It's just the earth rotating, isn't it? Very mysterious to primitive humans surely, but not to modern humans.

But okay.
To your question. The answer is no. I do not worship anything. When did you equivocate the solstice with worshipping?
 
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There are numerous reasons that we can be sure of that and The Jesus did not exist. They all did. I cherish this time of year.

If you actually believe Jesus did not exist you are flying in the face of what most historians believe. That does not do you much credit, but whatever.

If you really worship the solstice....well, you already disbelieve history, so there it is.
Well there it is. History. And facts. Nice chatting with you Sue. Christmas and Solstice are a wonderful time of the year.

You didn't offer any history or facts. I asked you a question: do you worship the solstice? That would be strange, wouldn't it, worshiping the solstice? It's just the earth rotating, isn't it? Very mysterious to primitive humans surely, but not to modern humans.

But okay.
To your question. The answer is no. I do not worship anything. When did you equivocate the solstice with worshipping?

Because you equated it with Christmas and paganism. This seems obvious to me.
 
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There are numerous reasons that we can be sure of that and The Jesus did not exist. They all did. I cherish this time of year.

If you actually believe Jesus did not exist you are flying in the face of what most historians believe. That does not do you much credit, but whatever.

If you really worship the solstice....well, you already disbelieve history, so there it is.
Well there it is. History. And facts. Nice chatting with you Sue. Christmas and Solstice are a wonderful time of the year.

You didn't offer any history or facts. I asked you a question: do you worship the solstice? That would be strange, wouldn't it, worshiping the solstice? It's just the earth rotating, isn't it? Very mysterious to primitive humans surely, but not to modern humans.

But okay.
To your question. The answer is no. I do not worship anything. When did you equivocate the solstice with worshipping?

Because you equated it with Christmas and paganism. This seems obvious to me.

Well, it WAS the reason for the original holiday.

I don't worship the solstice. I am also not a Christian. But I celebrate Xmas.
 
This is from Wikipedia.


Mosaic of Jesus as Christus Sol (Christ the Sun) in Mausoleum M in the third-century necropolis under St Peter's Basilica in Rome.[16]
Sextus Julius Africanus, a historian of the second century, maintained that Jesus of Nazareth was conceived on March 25, which the Christian Church came to celebrate as the Feast of the Annunciation.[17] With the term of a pregnancy being nine months, Sextus Julius Africanus held that Jesus was born on December 25, which the Western Christian Church established as Christmas.[17] Recorded in Sextus Julius Africanus's Chronographiai (221 AD), this thesis is corroborated by an interpretation of Gospel of Luke that places the appearance of Gabriel to Zechariah on the observance of Yom Kippur that occurs around October, as "the worshipers were praying outside of the Temple and not within" for "only the priest could enter the Temple at this time to conduct the proper rituals"; because Jesus was six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist, Jesus was conceived in March and born in late December.[18]
In 274 AD, Emperor Aurelian made a festival for Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun"), originally a Syrian deity who was later adopted as the chief deity of the Roman Empire.[19] While some writers believe that this may have influenced the Christian feast of Christmas, other historians such as Louis Duchesne, Hieronymus Engberding and Thomas Talley maintain that the Christian feast of Christmas was already being celebrated and that Aurelian established Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in order to compete with the Christian feast of Christmas.

Christmas controversies - Wikipedia

Which one of these Brave Crusaders ever took on Muhammad at Ramadan, I have to wonder?

Any of you? Yes? No?

Stand up and be counted, Brave Internet Atheists.
 
If you actually believe Jesus did not exist you are flying in the face of what most historians believe. That does not do you much credit, but whatever.

If you really worship the solstice....well, you already disbelieve history, so there it is.
Well there it is. History. And facts. Nice chatting with you Sue. Christmas and Solstice are a wonderful time of the year.

You didn't offer any history or facts. I asked you a question: do you worship the solstice? That would be strange, wouldn't it, worshiping the solstice? It's just the earth rotating, isn't it? Very mysterious to primitive humans surely, but not to modern humans.

But okay.
To your question. The answer is no. I do not worship anything. When did you equivocate the solstice with worshipping?

Because you equated it with Christmas and paganism. This seems obvious to me.

Well, it WAS the reason for the original holiday.

I don't worship the solstice. I am also not a Christian. But I celebrate Xmas.

What was the reason for the original holiday? The pagans worshiped the solstice. Christians worship Christ. We all borrow cultural artifacts from each other, like bringing pines in to our homes and such. What are you talking about?
 

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