Christopher Columbus' So-Called American 'Discovery' Leaves Little To Celebrate

[Yarddog]

They had a much deeper respect for human life and our planet than we have. That can be proven by many aspects of their culture.

Right. That's why they burned people alive and tied them down in the desert and stuck arrows in womens armpits, etc etc etc etc etc.

True, tribes like the Comanche and Apaches were some of the worst and would go after peaceful settlers, and they also killed a lot of Mexicans. But this is a pretty big country and not all Indians were the same just as the land itself was not the same. I've posted before about the California Indian genocide so im not going to bother doing it now.. but they were a relatively peaceful people because they basically lived in a place with an over abundance of food and other resources. They were unfortunant enough to get caught up between the gold rush, Spanish priests, and the politics of westward expansion. It sure was'nt fair what happened to them, so I have no problem giving them loans for their casinos.

They would go after peaceful settlers?
Kind of like how the GOP does?

Yes many "illegals" are peaceful settlers. The GOP argues that it doesn't matter if they're peaceful, they are illegal so they must leave.
Same idea. No?

I see where your going with this but Native Americans had previously inhabited this place for thousands of years, whereas the settlers your talking about, are new and caught between the power struggle between two political parties. No one wants people to be treated unfairly but UNFORTUNANTLY, we exist in a nation that is now riddled with laws that we have to follow or apparently NOT follow when we feel like it. Some people feel that the way we enforce laws define us as a nation to some extent. Heres the great thing about LEGAL immigration... it takes away all the guess work over who is peaceful and who is not peaceful. The call for Immigration Order is not necessarily the same thing as calling out the calvary at dawn to run babies through with a bayonette. we have to keep our perspective here

 

[BertramN]

He’s credited with discovering America, which isn’t true. But what he did do was commit genocide against entire native populations. Here’s why we really shouldn’t be celebrating Christopher Columbus.

VIDEO: Christopher Columbus' So-Called American 'Discovery' Leaves Little To Celebrate

Native American Genocide

Another sad day for Native Americans.

Conservatives' heroes in history all have been admired for their killing of Native Americans. It's long been their belief, "If you ain't white, you ain't sh!t." This is why Nazi groups are so popular among conservatives.

The truth about Christopher Columbus

Conservatives must rate certain posts “funny”. This occurs when they are forced from their alternative reality. But even in the real world their denial of facts remains strong. So, their use of the “funny” rating is their silent admission they know every word and image in the post is true.

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The lily white, and totally ignorant support the Big Orange Idiot, AND Nazis.


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[KissMy]

So? Native Americans committed genocide too. They were particularly brutal too.

Happy Columbus Day. He was a great man we all should honor.

The only people we should honor is our parents. Fuck everyone else.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

He’s credited with discovering America, which isn’t true. But what he did do was commit genocide against entire native populations. Here’s why we really shouldn’t be celebrating Christopher Columbus.

VIDEO: Christopher Columbus' So-Called American 'Discovery' Leaves Little To Celebrate

Native American Genocide

Another sad day for Native Americans.

Your own picture kind of says it all. These great native americans are so impressed by what in that picture? A cup? A bell? They sold land for beads for fuck sake. This is supposed to be the top culture? Metal, the wheel, ships, traveling. All way too advanced for the natives. But now we're supposed to think they were a great society. The American Indian was the lowest society in the world at the time. You should be grateful we actually brought you up to speed. You weren't going to keep up.

 

[Lakhota]

Los Angeles has joined a number of cities renaming the Columbus Day holiday.

5 Young Native Americans On What Indigenous Peoples Day Means To Them

Happy Indigenous Peoples Day!

 

[BlueGin]

So there are no native americans left? Thsts a bit of news to me. We shoild have wiped them out, but we didn't.

Genocide doesn't require the entire group be killed. Just a large portion. The native Americans were certainly victims of genocide.

Genocide- the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

Maybe like todays feral black population they should have learned how to behave and act civilized.

Oooo you're disgusting.

Natives lived much more civilly than we do in my opinion.

You were there right? You don't have any idea how they lived, except what you have been brainwashed to accept.

They had a much deeper respect for human life and our planet than we have. That can be proven by many aspects of their culture.

except for the fact that they tortured and killed other Indian tribes.

 

[tyroneweaver]

He’s credited with discovering America, which isn’t true. But what he did do was commit genocide against entire native populations. Here’s why we really shouldn’t be celebrating Christopher Columbus.

VIDEO: Christopher Columbus' So-Called American 'Discovery' Leaves Little To Celebrate

Native American Genocide

Another sad day for Native Americans.

you couldn't hold CC's jock strap

 

[BlueGin]

They had a much deeper respect for human life and our planet than we have. That can be proven by many aspects of their culture.

Right. That's why they burned people alive and tied them down in the desert and stuck arrows in womens armpits, etc etc etc etc etc.

True, tribes like the Comanche and Apaches were some of the worst and would go after peaceful settlers, and they also killed a lot of Mexicans. But this is a pretty big country and not all Indians were the same just as the land itself was not the same. I've posted before about the California Indian genocide so im not going to bother doing it now.. but they were a relatively peaceful people because they basically lived in a place with an over abundance of food and other resources. They were unfortunant enough to get caught up between the gold rush, Spanish priests, and the politics of westward expansion. It sure was'nt fair what happened to them, so I have no problem giving them loans for their casinos.

They would go after peaceful settlers?
Kind of like how the GOP does?

Yes many "illegals" are peaceful settlers. The GOP argues that it doesn't matter if they're peaceful, they are illegal so they must leave.
Same idea. No?

You do realize it's the Hispanics that like to celebrate the Spanish explorers right?

New Mexico celebrates the fiestas in Santa Fe every year due to this.

 

[BlueGin]

He’s credited with discovering America, which isn’t true. But what he did do was commit genocide against entire native populations. Here’s why we really shouldn’t be celebrating Christopher Columbus.

VIDEO: Christopher Columbus' So-Called American 'Discovery' Leaves Little To Celebrate

Native American Genocide

Another sad day for Native Americans.

Conservatives' heroes in history all have been admired for their killing of Native Americans. It's long been their belief, "If you ain't white, you ain't sh!t." This is why Nazi groups are so popular among conservatives.

The truth about Christopher Columbus

Conservatives must rate certain posts “funny”. This occurs when they are forced from their alternative reality. But even in the real world their denial of facts remains strong. So, their use of the “funny” rating is their silent admission they know every word and image in the post is true.

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The lily white, and totally ignorant support the Big Orange Idiot, AND Nazis.


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Um...it's your beloved Hispanics that celebrate the spanish explorers. Just sayin.

 

[Lakhota]

Sacheen Littlefeather

On March 27, 1973, a young woman took the stage at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in Los Angeles, California, to decline Marlon Brando’s Best Actor Oscar. She said that Marlon Brando cannot accept this award because of the treatment of American Indians by the film industry and the recent happenings at Wounded Knee.

Brando had written a fifteen-page speech to be given at the awards by Cruz, but when the producer met her backstage, he threatened to physically remove her or have her arrested if she spoke on stage for more than 45 seconds. The speech she read contained the lines:

Hello. My name is Sasheen Littlefeather. I’m Apache and I am president of the National Native American Affirmative Image Committee.

I’m representing Marlon Brando this evening, and he has asked me to tell you in a very long speech which I cannot share with you presently, because of time, but I will be glad to share with the press afterwards, that he very regretfully cannot accept this very generous award.

[…]

What kind of moral schizophrenia is it that allows us to shout at the top of our national voice for all the world to hear that we live up to our commitment when every page of history and when all the thirsty, starving, humiliating days and nights of the last 100 years in the lives of the American Indian contradict that voice?

In his autobiography Songs my Mother Told Me (1994, pp. 380-402) Marlon Brando, devotes several pages to the genocide of the American Indians, excerpted as follows:

After their lands were stolen from them, the ragged survivors were herded onto reservations and the government sent out missionaries who tried to force the Indians to become Christians. After I became interested in American Indians, I discovered that many people don’t even regard them as human beings. It has been that way since the beginning.

Cotton Mather compared them to Satan and called it God’s work – and God’s will – to slaughter the heathen savages who stood in the way of Christianity.

As he aimed his howitzers on an encampment of unarmed Indians at Sand Creek, Colorado, in 1864, an army colonel named John Chivington, who had once said that the lives of Indian children should not be spared because “nits make lice,” told his officers: “I have come to kill Indians, and believe it is right and honorable to use any means under God’s heaven to kill Indians.” Hundreds of Indian women, children, and old men were slaughtered in the Sand Creek massacre. One officer who was present said later, “Women and children were killed and scalped, children shot at their mother’s breasts, and all the bodies mutilated in the most horrible manner. The dead bodies of females were profaned in such a manner that the recital is sickening.

The troopers cut off the vulvas of Indian women, stretched them over their saddle horns, then decorated their hatbands with them; some used the skin of brave’s scrotums and the breasts of Indian women as tobacco pouches, then showed off these trophies, together with the noses and ears of some of the Indians they had massacred, at the Denver Opera House.

Native American Genocide

So disgusting and vile - but it's part of American history.

 

[Lakhota]

Well, Columbus Butcher Day is nearing an end for another year.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Thank God all those fucking savages are dead. The world is a better place, thanks to Columbus.

 

[Lakhota]

Even Hitler admired the efficiency of American genocide of Native Americans:

“Hitler’s concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circle the efficiency of America’s extermination – by starvation and uneven combat – of the red savages who could not be tamed by captivity.”

Native American Genocide

 

[Markle]

How many Native Americans did the Vikings butcher?

The Vikings also took slaves.

 

[Markle]

Even Hitler admired the efficiency of American genocide of Native Americans:

“Hitler’s concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circle the efficiency of America’s extermination – by starvation and uneven combat – of the red savages who could not be tamed by captivity.”

Native American Genocide

I take it that you know that Native Americans also had slaves?

 

[PoliticalChic]

He’s credited with discovering America, which isn’t true. But what he did do was commit genocide against entire native populations. Here’s why we really shouldn’t be celebrating Christopher Columbus.

VIDEO: Christopher Columbus' So-Called American 'Discovery' Leaves Little To Celebrate

Native American Genocide

Another sad day for Native Americans.

There never was any 'genocide' against the Indian population.

It's one of those America-hater's bumper-stickers that imbeciles believe.


Raise your paw.

There was no genocide against Natives?
What exactly would you call it?

You were there right?

What would you call it?

When Colombus "discovered" America there were over 10 million natives... by 1900 there were around 300,000. As a historian, I call that genocide. What do you call it?

Is this an attempt at "genocide" by native Americans??


The exact origin of syphilis is disputed.[4] Syphilis was indisputably present in the Americas before European contact. The dispute is over whether or not syphilis was also present elsewhere in the world at that time. One of the two primary hypotheses proposes that syphilis was carried from the Americas to Europe by the returning crewmen from Christopher Columbus's voyage to the Americas. The other hypothesis says that syphilis existed in Europe previously, but went unrecognized until shortly after Columbus' return. These are referred to as the Columbian and pre-Columbianhypotheses, respectively.[15] The Columbian hypothesis is best supported by the available evidence.[35][36] The first written records of an outbreak of syphilis in Europe occurred in 1494 or 1495 in Naples, Italy, during a French invasion (Italian War of 1494–98).[13][15] Due to its being spread by returning French troops, it was initially known as the "French disease."[citation needed] In 1530, the name "syphilis" was first used by the Italian physician and poet Girolamo Fracastoro as the title of his Latin poem in dactylic hexameter describing the ravages of the disease in Italy.[37] It was also known historically as the "Great Pox".[38][39]


Untreated, it has a mortality of 8% to 58%, with a greater death rate in males.[4] The symptoms of syphilis have become less severe over the 19th and 20th centuries, in part due to widespread availability of effective treatment and partly due to decreasing virulence of the spirochaete.[9] With early treatment, few complications result.[8] Syphilis increases the risk of HIV transmission by two to five times, and coinfection is common (30–60% in a number of urban centers).[4][5]
Syphilis - Wikipedia



No, you dunce.....neither are 'genocide.'

They are the unintended consequence of disease.

Get an education.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There never was any 'genocide' against the Indian population.

It's one of those America-hater's bumper-stickers that imbeciles believe.


Raise your paw.

There was no genocide against Natives?
What exactly would you call it?

You were there right?

What would you call it?

When Colombus "discovered" America there were over 10 million natives... by 1900 there were around 300,000. As a historian, I call that genocide. What do you call it.

Damn right. Ole Chris killed them all!

Genocide-
the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

Yes. They were victims of genocide.

Actually.....no.


" Though the term "genocide" was not coined until 1944, acts of genocide have been committed throughout history.... “Genocide,” a term used to describe violence against members of a national, ethnical, racial or religious group with the intent to destroy the entire group, came into general usage only after World War II,..."
What Is Genocide - Facts Summary - HISTORY.com

a. " In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,..."
The UN Convention, Article II, Convention on Genocide




See if you can find a library....a place where they lend books.

I'm sure a nice adult will help you get a library card.

 

[Crixus]

So? Native Americans committed genocide too. They were particularly brutal too.

Happy Columbus Day. He was a great man we all should honor.

What exactly was so "great" about him?

What was so great about a bunch of mud hut dwelling Mexicans?

 

[gipper]

Even Hitler admired the efficiency of American genocide of Native Americans:

“Hitler’s concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circle the efficiency of America’s extermination – by starvation and uneven combat – of the red savages who could not be tamed by captivity.”

Native American Genocide

I take it that you know that Native Americans also had slaves?

No way!

The natives were pure loving caring wonderful peace loving peoples....all of them. LOL!

...and they would never torture anyone.....LOL!

 

[NightFox]

He’s credited with discovering America, which isn’t true. But what he did do was commit genocide against entire native populations. Here’s why we really shouldn’t be celebrating Christopher Columbus.

Nice display of presentism, Columbus's voyages took a lot of vision and courage not to mention the perseverance and diplomatic acumen to secure the financial backing of the Spanish Crown, 500 years ago crossing the Atlantic into the vast unknown was something akin to the Moon Landings only with less understanding of what the nature of the destination was and risking the finances of the Spanish Crown (who were like as not to execute him if he failed) while doing it took a great deal of guts and commitment.

What happened to the Native Americans was unfortunate, however it wasn't anything extraordinary with respect to the norm of conquest, domination and enslavement that had been going on since the dawn of civilization, to attempt to judge the actions of people from 500 years ago by today's standards of ethics and morality is ignorant and childish .

Does he deserve his own national holiday? probably not but all this caterwauling about "genocide" is moronic, Neither Columbus or his masters in Spain never had any intentions of genocide nor did they consciously pursue it.