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I don't think most people CHOOSE to be gay. I think it's something they cannot help.
I think if you talk with any truly honest man who is married, that when they see a very attractive woman, they have a natural physical response to her.
Does that mean every man is naturally an adulterous womanizer?
Why is it that roughly 78% of men, do not cheat on their wives? They have the same natural physical response when exposed to a very attractive woman as any other.... right?
They choose to not act, on the natural feelings and physical response they have.
There have been times, I fully admit by my own stupidity and obliviousness, where I was alone with a woman that wanted to have sex with me, and if I had been so inclined, I could have slept with them right then. And I will also fully admit that 2 of those 3 times, the woman was horrendously attractive.
I turned all 3 down. I made a choice. I didn't follow what I was feeling, or desiring.
I would also suggest that most men, would admit that at some point in their lives, someone made them so angry, and infuriated, that they would have killed someone. I too, have had about two specific instances where I would have like to put someone in the ground for something done to me, and another time something done to someone else.
Yet most men, and myself, CHOOSE to not do that. The urge is there... but we made choices to not follow our feelings and natural reactions.
Christianity never suggests that you don't have wrong desires, wrong feelings, wrong urges. Christianity says you submit yourself to G-d, and His law, and His authority, and you CHOOSE to not do what you feel like doing, because He said not to.
I can't change the natural response I have, nor the feelings I have, many of which I am born with, like all humans. But I can make choice, to not follow those things.
That's because you're a religious fanatic.No offense meant, but it is what it is. You must be a Roman Catholic?
I think if you talk with any truly honest man who is married, that when they see a very attractive woman, they have a natural physical response to her.
Does that mean every man is naturally an adulterous womanizer?
Why is it that roughly 78% of men, do not cheat on their wives? They have the same natural physical response when exposed to a very attractive woman as any other.... right?
They choose to not act, on the natural feelings and physical response they have.
There have been times, I fully admit by my own stupidity and obliviousness, where I was alone with a woman that wanted to have sex with me, and if I had been so inclined, I could have slept with them right then. And I will also fully admit that 2 of those 3 times, the woman was horrendously attractive.
I turned all 3 down. I made a choice. I didn't follow what I was feeling, or desiring.
I would also suggest that most men, would admit that at some point in their lives, someone made them so angry, and infuriated, that they would have killed someone. I too, have had about two specific instances where I would have like to put someone in the ground for something done to me, and another time something done to someone else.
Yet most men, and myself, CHOOSE to not do that. The urge is there... but we made choices to not follow our feelings and natural reactions.
Christianity never suggests that you don't have wrong desires, wrong feelings, wrong urges. Christianity says you submit yourself to G-d, and His law, and His authority, and you CHOOSE to not do what you feel like doing, because He said not to.
I can't change the natural response I have, nor the feelings I have, many of which I am born with, like all humans. But I can make choice, to not follow those things.
That's because you're a religious fanatic.
From it's link:
74% of men
68% of women
would have an affair if they knew they would never get caught.
I think if you talk with any truly honest man who is married, that when they see a very attractive woman, they have a natural physical response to her.
Does that mean every man is naturally an adulterous womanizer?
Why is it that roughly 78% of men, do not cheat on their wives? They have the same natural physical response when exposed to a very attractive woman as any other.... right?
They choose to not act, on the natural feelings and physical response they have.
There have been times, I fully admit by my own stupidity and obliviousness, where I was alone with a woman that wanted to have sex with me, and if I had been so inclined, I could have slept with them right then. And I will also fully admit that 2 of those 3 times, the woman was horrendously attractive.
I turned all 3 down. I made a choice. I didn't follow what I was feeling, or desiring.
I would also suggest that most men, would admit that at some point in their lives, someone made them so angry, and infuriated, that they would have killed someone. I too, have had about two specific instances where I would have like to put someone in the ground for something done to me, and another time something done to someone else.
Yet most men, and myself, CHOOSE to not do that. The urge is there... but we made choices to not follow our feelings and natural reactions.
Christianity never suggests that you don't have wrong desires, wrong feelings, wrong urges. Christianity says you submit yourself to G-d, and His law, and His authority, and you CHOOSE to not do what you feel like doing, because He said not to.
I can't change the natural response I have, nor the feelings I have, many of which I am born with, like all humans. But I can make choice, to not follow those things.
That's because you're a religious fanatic.
From it's link:
74% of men
68% of women
would have an affair if they knew they would never get caught.
That's because you're a religious fanatic.
From it's link:
74% of men
68% of women
would have an affair if they knew they would never get caught.
What difference does that make? They still have the natural desire and urge. They still choose to not. They still make a choice.
Let's even say it was 75% of men who did. That's still 25% who did not. Would you assume that 25% of men, when they are around super attractive women.... are not attracted? They magically don't have the desire?
Either way, my argument still is accurate and true. It's a choice.
What difference does that make? They still have the natural desire and urge. They still choose to not. They still make a choice.
Let's even say it was 75% of men who did. That's still 25% who did not. Would you assume that 25% of men, when they are around super attractive women.... are not attracted? They magically don't have the desire?
Either way, my argument still is accurate and true. It's a choice.
Her son made his choice. Perhaps she should have told him before making that choice that a Christian Church funeral may be out of the question.
I don't think most people CHOOSE to be gay. I think it's something they cannot help.
I think if you talk with any truly honest man who is married, that when they see a very attractive woman, they have a natural physical response to her.
Does that mean every man is naturally an adulterous womanizer?
Why is it that roughly 78% of men, do not cheat on their wives? They have the same natural physical response when exposed to a very attractive woman as any other.... right?
They choose to not act, on the natural feelings and physical response they have.
There have been times, I fully admit by my own stupidity and obliviousness, where I was alone with a woman that wanted to have sex with me, and if I had been so inclined, I could have slept with them right then. And I will also fully admit that 2 of those 3 times, the woman was horrendously attractive.
I turned all 3 down. I made a choice. I didn't follow what I was feeling, or desiring.
I would also suggest that most men, would admit that at some point in their lives, someone made them so angry, and infuriated, that they would have killed someone. I too, have had about two specific instances where I would have like to put someone in the ground for something done to me, and another time something done to someone else.
Yet most men, and myself, CHOOSE to not do that. The urge is there... but we made choices to not follow our feelings and natural reactions.
Christianity never suggests that you don't have wrong desires, wrong feelings, wrong urges. Christianity says you submit yourself to G-d, and His law, and His authority, and you CHOOSE to not do what you feel like doing, because He said not to.
I can't change the natural response I have, nor the feelings I have, many of which I am born with, like all humans. But I can make choice, to not follow those things.
Another thing . . . gay men don't want to sleep with women. That would be like making a heterosexual man sleep with another man. I think it is unreasonable to expect a person to live a lie and to have an unhappy and miserable life because of man's interpretation of what is supposedly God's words or because of what the church tells you.
I don't expect you to understand what I'm about to tell you, but it's like this....
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
I don't think most people CHOOSE to be gay. I think it's something they cannot help.
I think if you talk with any truly honest man who is married, that when they see a very attractive woman, they have a natural physical response to her.
Does that mean every man is naturally an adulterous womanizer?
Why is it that roughly 78% of men, do not cheat on their wives? They have the same natural physical response when exposed to a very attractive woman as any other.... right?
They choose to not act, on the natural feelings and physical response they have.
There have been times, I fully admit by my own stupidity and obliviousness, where I was alone with a woman that wanted to have sex with me, and if I had been so inclined, I could have slept with them right then. And I will also fully admit that 2 of those 3 times, the woman was horrendously attractive.
I turned all 3 down. I made a choice. I didn't follow what I was feeling, or desiring.
I would also suggest that most men, would admit that at some point in their lives, someone made them so angry, and infuriated, that they would have killed someone. I too, have had about two specific instances where I would have like to put someone in the ground for something done to me, and another time something done to someone else.
Yet most men, and myself, CHOOSE to not do that. The urge is there... but we made choices to not follow our feelings and natural reactions.
Christianity never suggests that you don't have wrong desires, wrong feelings, wrong urges. Christianity says you submit yourself to G-d, and His law, and His authority, and you CHOOSE to not do what you feel like doing, because He said not to.
I can't change the natural response I have, nor the feelings I have, many of which I am born with, like all humans. But I can make choice, to not follow those things.
The church loves to promote repressing one's sexuality, but look at the effect such practice has had on their own clergy.
Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
This is a statement that can be trusted: If anyone sets his heart on being a bishop, he desires something excellent. A bishop must have a good reputation. He must have only one wife, be sober, use good judgment, be respectable, be hospitable, and be able to teach. He must not drink excessively or be a violent person, but he must be gentle. He must not be quarrelsome or love money. He must manage his own family well. His children should respectfully obey him. (If a man doesn't know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?) He must not be a new Christian, or he might become arrogant like the devil and be condemned.
I don't expect you to understand what I'm about to tell you, but it's like this....
I don't expect you to understand what I'm about to tell you, but it's like this...
The only right you have to judge other people is when it comes to those you choose to associate with. Outside of that, you need to learn to exercise that humility that Jesus preaches about - which if you are any kind of Christian, you should already know.
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
Romans 9:15
You cannot know who God will show mercy to, and to cast judgment on those whom God accepts for whatever reasons that we cannot possibly fathom is a direct sin against the Lord.
From it's link:
74% of men
68% of women
would have an affair if they knew they would never get caught.
What difference does that make? They still have the natural desire and urge. They still choose to not. They still make a choice.
Let's even say it was 75% of men who did. That's still 25% who did not. Would you assume that 25% of men, when they are around super attractive women.... are not attracted? They magically don't have the desire?
Either way, my argument still is accurate and true. It's a choice.
It is not a choice. Like I said, you are comparing apples to oranges again. I am guessing (and I'm quite sure I'm right, and some gay men could back me up) that having sex with a woman is, for a gay man, like having sex with a man would be for you. NOW you have an accurate comparison. Still a choice?
Or maybe you think they shouldn't have sex and intimacy in their lives? That they should be celibate?
I don't expect you to understand what I'm about to tell you, but it's like this....
I don't expect you to understand what I'm about to tell you, but it's like this...
The only right you have to judge other people is when it comes to those you choose to associate with. Outside of that, you need to learn to exercise that humility that Jesus preaches about - which if you are any kind of Christian, you should already know.
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
Romans 9:15
You cannot know who God will show mercy to, and to cast judgment on those whom God accepts for whatever reasons that we cannot possibly fathom is a direct sin against the Lord.
That right there... is exactly what we're talking about in this thread. You just validated my position. That was the whole point.
Androw's opinion need not be validated.
He is the stubborn Pharisee of our age.
Let's move on.
So... since you are waste of time, you are hereby ignored! Congrats. You have eliminated yourself from my world. From now on, I will never see your boring empty pointless posts ever again.
Have a nice life. So long.
I don't expect you to understand what I'm about to tell you, but it's like this...
The only right you have to judge other people is when it comes to those you choose to associate with. Outside of that, you need to learn to exercise that humility that Jesus preaches about - which if you are any kind of Christian, you should already know.
Romans 9:15
You cannot know who God will show mercy to, and to cast judgment on those whom God accepts for whatever reasons that we cannot possibly fathom is a direct sin against the Lord.
That right there... is exactly what we're talking about in this thread. You just validated my position. That was the whole point.
Wrong, you're judging all homosexuals. If you don't want to have them over for dinner, more power to you. I'm sure they wouldn't want to associate with someone that doesn't like them anyway.
But to be so outspokenly hateful towards them is to risk sinning against the Lord, because you have no idea who is deserving of His grace. After all, He cast his judgment for and against people before birth (ie, Jacob & Esau) with no explanation given to us lowly humans because that is His right & His right alone.
Another reason why if you pick a church and graveyard, you should learn about it before committing a body there. As for me, I am being cremated when I die so I don't need a grave necessarily, nor a church service.T.W. Jenkins, pastor at New Hope says was not aware of that Evans had a husband or was gay until members of his congregation saw the obit and called to complain. They did not think it was right to have the funeral at their church.
