Civil Rights Commission Against Religious Freedom

[Rustic]

They hear code words and dog whistles.

A new report by the United States Commission on Civil Rights supports the majority on the federal commission, who say that efforts to protect religious liberty and freedom are really a way for individuals and entities to discriminate against people who don’t share their beliefs.

“The phrases ‘religious liberty’ and ‘religious freedom’ will stand for nothing except hypocrisy so long as they remain code words for discrimination, intolerance, racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, Christian supremacy or any form of intolerance,” Martin Castro, chairman of the commission, said in a statement included in the 296-page report.

Civil Rights Commission: ‘Religious Liberty,’ ‘Religious Freedom’ Code Words for Intolerance, Homophobia, and ‘Christian Supremacy’

Damn commission, if only they allowed total religious freedom we could solve global warming forever, a simple sacrifice of young virgin girls would satisfy the gods and allow for perfect weather conditions. Imagine no more hurricanes, tornadoes, lightning strikes causing fires, etc. for simply choosiness a half dozen or so young girls to protect the earth / our planet. We could even sacrifice a few more to prevent earthquake and volcano disasters.

Man made Global warming is a myth, made up by a cult of control freaks

Says a paid up member of a cult of deniers.

Man-made global warming is a myth because Al gore can't be trusted

 

[tyroneweaver]

Be a slave, or starve. Got it.

What part of "Congress shall make no law" is unclear to you? What part of "the free expression thereof" confuses you?

I don't recall seeing "except for" in the Amendment. You?

Individuals have a right to practice whatever bronze age superstitions they want to, but they still have to obey the law.

The law says if you open a business, it has to provide the same services to people regardless of color, creed, gender or sexual orientation.

If you can't do that, you shouldn't operate a business.

I sell firearms to all the above... Lol

So lonestar_logic has reformed. Good.

I sell firearms because it's an absolute right…

So is that "all black rifles matter" story out of Ma. true or a dupe?

 

[Rustic]

They hear code words and dog whistles.

A new report by the United States Commission on Civil Rights supports the majority on the federal commission, who say that efforts to protect religious liberty and freedom are really a way for individuals and entities to discriminate against people who don’t share their beliefs.

“The phrases ‘religious liberty’ and ‘religious freedom’ will stand for nothing except hypocrisy so long as they remain code words for discrimination, intolerance, racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, Christian supremacy or any form of intolerance,” Martin Castro, chairman of the commission, said in a statement included in the 296-page report.

Civil Rights Commission: ‘Religious Liberty,’ ‘Religious Freedom’ Code Words for Intolerance, Homophobia, and ‘Christian Supremacy’

We told you guys that they would come for the 2nd Amendment first...but the 1st Amendment is next......every part of the first Amendment....religion, speech, political speech....the left does not regard individual liberty as a serious concept......the power of the state must control every aspect of life....and the 1st and 2nd amendment prevent the accumulation of power in the central government....

Yes, Control freaks are silly in that way.

 

[Rustic]

We told you guys that they would come for the 2nd Amendment first...but the 1st Amendment is next......every part of the first Amendment....religion, speech, political speech....the left does not regard individual liberty as a serious concept......the power of the state must control every aspect of life....and the 1st and 2nd amendment prevent the accumulation of power in the central government....

NOt really. Neither amendment has ever been an absolute.

It's why you can't own that machine gun you've had your eye on to compensate for your shortcomings even after Heller, and why you can't scream "fire" (or "Joker with a gun") in a crowded theater or perform Satanic Human Sacrifices...

Liberties with REASONABLE limits.

Firearm ownership is an absolute right…

 

[Rustic]

Grizz and Billly yammer on. Grizz you have learned to be on OP with me, and that's good. Billy, you are right in that every one who wants to buy a gun, whether a 22 or a machine gun, should be required to purchase and keep updated a federal firearms license. Make it mandatory for any and every purchase.

It would not be an absolute right if you had to get a license would it? No way.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Grizz and Billly yammer on. Grizz you have learned to be on OP with me, and that's good. Billy, you are right in that every one who wants to buy a gun, whether a 22 or a machine gun, should be required to purchase and keep updated a federal firearms license. Make it mandatory for any and every purchase.

It would not be an absolute right if you had to get a license would it? No way.

Of course it is not an absolute right. Thank you for recognizing that fact.

 

[Rustic]

What level of enforced equality is desirable?

Understanding that the government is founded on inequality needs to be considered in that plan as well.

I've know gay people who've lost their jobs because of homophobes, I've know gay people who've been beaten up because of homophobes.

"Waaah, I had to bake a cake after I offered to bake a cake and I got money for baking the cake and made a hefty profit" is NOT that much of a burden.

You're misinterpreting the Bible, love the sinner - hate the sin.

 

[JakeStarkey]

What level of enforced equality is desirable?

Understanding that the government is founded on inequality needs to be considered in that plan as well.

I've know gay people who've lost their jobs because of homophobes, I've know gay people who've been beaten up because of homophobes.

"Waaah, I had to bake a cake after I offered to bake a cake and I got money for baking the cake and made a hefty profit" is NOT that much of a burden.

You're misinterpreting the Bible, love the sinner - hate the sin.

Now you are trolling with your misinterpretation of the bible.

 

[Rustic]

Grizz and Billly yammer on. Grizz you have learned to be on OP with me, and that's good. Billy, you are right in that every one who wants to buy a gun, whether a 22 or a machine gun, should be required to purchase and keep updated a federal firearms license. Make it mandatory for any and every purchase.

It would not be an absolute right if you had to get a license would it? No way.

Of course it is not an absolute right. Thank you for recognizing that fact.

The Second Amendment is the license for a firearm

 

[Rustic]

What level of enforced equality is desirable?

Understanding that the government is founded on inequality needs to be considered in that plan as well.

I've know gay people who've lost their jobs because of homophobes, I've know gay people who've been beaten up because of homophobes.

"Waaah, I had to bake a cake after I offered to bake a cake and I got money for baking the cake and made a hefty profit" is NOT that much of a burden.

You're misinterpreting the Bible, love the sinner - hate the sin.

Now you are trolling with your misinterpretation of the bible.

Tell me where I'm wrong?

 

[Rustic]

So liberals are now including Christians in that "basket of deplorables" Hillary preaches to her supporters?

Please point out to me in the Gospels where Jesus said anything about homosexuality at all? The problem with you "Christians" is that you use Jesus to rationalize a lot of deplorable things that Jesus never talked about.

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Please point out where Jesus talked of murder. Jesus never talked about it so it must be OK? Gawd you're an idiot

"Let he who is without sin among you, cast the first stone". Yes, he talked about murder, and he reinforced the 10 Commandments, as in "Thou shalt not kill". But don't let facts get in the way of your arguments.

Jesus didn't talk about homosexuality, neither did the 10 Commandments. Yet Christians will bake cake for adulterers, but not homosexuals. Odd that.

The Bible is to be taken as a whole or not taken at all… Fact

 

[JakeStarkey]

Rustic now is spamming. Noted. His literalist view of the Bible is laughable. SCOTUS and 95% of America disagrees with his "absolute right" on guns.

 

[Rustic]

They hear code words and dog whistles.

A new report by the United States Commission on Civil Rights supports the majority on the federal commission, who say that efforts to protect religious liberty and freedom are really a way for individuals and entities to discriminate against people who don’t share their beliefs.

“The phrases ‘religious liberty’ and ‘religious freedom’ will stand for nothing except hypocrisy so long as they remain code words for discrimination, intolerance, racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, Christian supremacy or any form of intolerance,” Martin Castro, chairman of the commission, said in a statement included in the 296-page report.

Civil Rights Commission: ‘Religious Liberty,’ ‘Religious Freedom’ Code Words for Intolerance, Homophobia, and ‘Christian Supremacy’

So liberals are now including Christians in that "basket of deplorables" Hillary preaches to her supporters?

The deplorable Christians are the homophobes and xenophobes-- the opposite of Christ.

Now Where in the Bible does it say fudge packing is an acceptable thing?…
It does say love the sinner - hate the sin.... Everywhere

 

[Rustic]

Rustic now is spamming. Noted. His literalist view of the Bible is laughable. SCOTUS and 95% of America disagrees with his "absolute right" on guns.

The second amendment says it's an absolute right, till the individual fucks that right up.

 

[Rustic]

"Question: "If homosexuality is a sin, why didn’t Jesus ever mention it?" is a part of "Got Questions Ministries [that] seeks to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by providing biblical, applicable, and timely answers to spiritually related questions through an internet presence."

GQM, in other words, is an evangelical version of ancient Pharisaism that puts a man made barrier around the ministry of the historical Jesus.

Jesus never condemned homosexuality.

The Bible does though, in the Bible has to be taken as a whole or not takin at all

 

[Rustic]

Jesus reinforced the Bible as a whole, does the Bible condemn homosexuality? Why yes, yes it does...numerous times. Sit down, this is the result when you loons attempt to go Biblical, you cherry pick and get caught everytime

Jesus was really specific about what portions of the Bible he reinforced. He reinforced the sections about love, and respect. He distilled the 10 Commandments down to two: Love the Lord Thy God, and love one another as I have loved you. But He did not reinforce the fire and brimstone parts of the Bible. He emphasized love, compassion for others, poverty (something right wingers seem to have no memory of at all), and forgiveness.

So no, He didn't reinforce all of the other parts of the Bible. He chose his emphasis.

Silly politically correct lemming... Lol

 

[Rustic]

The ministry of Jesus reinforces love. The Bible as crafted by man reinforces man's cruelty to man when Jesus is taken out of it. Listen to Jesus, not the Bible.

The Bible is gods word to man… You ever hear of the Trinity? You may not understand...

 

[JakeStarkey]

The ministry of Jesus reinforces love. The Bible as crafted by man reinforces man's cruelty to man when Jesus is taken out of it. Listen to Jesus, not the Bible.

The Bible is gods word to man… You ever hear of the Trinity? You may not understand...

I call Jesus Lord and Savior and he calls me by my first name, Rustic. I was born again and washed in the Blood of the Lamb before you were born. Your literalist understanding of the Bible marks you as person resistant to the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Rustic]

There seriously not much difference between European socialism and Trotskyism.

if you think that, you're stupid. No nice way to put it.

The question was whether or not the government should enforce equality measures.

No, that question was asked and answered 50 years ago during the Civil Rights movement.

In literalist terms, you are asking for the corrupt corporate state to verbally intimidate business owners into employing and serving people they have differences with, and if they fail to comply, they will be forced into court where the government will rob them of a great deal of money they cannot afford to lose.

Yup. I also wouldn't mind shipping their bigoted asses off to a place where we teach them to be decent human beings.

Just describing what you want without all the bullshit. Now do you want to consider a more tempered and non-authoritarian approach towards instigating cultural change?

Nope, what we are doing is working just fine. I don't expect to change bigots like the Wife-beater in Oregon who crashed his wife's bakery because he enjoys publicity so much. But the sensible person will think twice.

European socialism is just another excuse for a dictatorship, and no sort of real freedom.

 

[Rustic]

Going to a bakery owned by a person who hates you is not very dignified.

Sorry, you are an adult now. Suck up your entitlement.

You have no moral high ground to stand on when you want to start bullying and intimidating others to think and act like you, when their thoughts and actions are causing no physical or bodily harm to your personhood.

This is why the police state exists. Your government does not protect people. It terrorizes them into conforming with the social standards laid out by other inherently flawed human beings.

If it makes you feel any better, outside of the established law, it is your prerogative to deny bigots a cake.

Guy, I've known gays who been fired by homophobes, I've known gays who've been beaten up by homophobes. I don't think the government goes nearly far enough.

Here's what I'd do...

1) Any Church that preaches homophobia will lose it's tax exemption and be subject to FREQUENT IRS Audits.

2) People convicted of hate crimes will get mandetory jail time.

3) Companies convicted of discrimination will be forced to pay fines and put up signs explaining their crimes.

You sound like a dictator right out of a socialist society… LOL