Coal Country Picked Trump. Now, They Want Him To Keep His Promises

[jon_berzerk]

"We Are Going To Put A Lot Of Coal Miners & Coal Companies Out Of Business"-Hillary Clinton



--LOL

 

[ScienceRocks]

Subsidize it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The coal industry was so good for appalachia, all that progress and improvement it brought to the region.

/--- Are you talking about White Prevlidge?

 

[TheOldSchool]

America was the world's top oil producer under Obama. Care to try again?

maybe 3rd

not top

Oh I guess in September Saudi Arabia overtook us. I guess they're desperate because oil demand is so low and they're having a firesale.

Saudi Arabia Ousts U.S. as Biggest Oil Producer, IEA Says

pretty much every year

them and Russia also

although we are trying to reclaim the European market

without much success

we do sell them coal half assed through the Netherlands resale to Europe

Half-assed because the demand for coal in Europe isn't there

you live in a bubble man



The downturn in the primary production of hard coal, lignite, crude oil, natural gas and more recently nuclear energy led to a situation where the EU was increasingly reliant on primary energy imports in order to satisfy demand, although this situation stabilised in the aftermath of the financial and economic crisis. The EU-28’s imports of primary energy exceeded exports by some 881 Mtoe in 2014. The largest net importers of primary energy were generally the most populous EU Member States, with the exception of Poland (where some indigenous reserves of coal remain). In 2004, Denmark had been the only net exporter of primary energy among the EU Member States, but in 2013 Danish energy imports exceeded exports such that there were no longer any Member States that were net exporters of energy (see Table 2). Relative to population size, the largest net importers in 2014 were Luxembourg, Malta and Belgium.

he origin of EU-28 energy imports has changed somewhat in recent years, although Russia has maintained its position as the main supplier of crude oil and natural gas (despite seeing its share reduced somewhat in recent years) and also emerged as the leading supplier of solid fuels (see Table 3). In 2014, some 29.0 % of the EU-28’s imports of crude oil were from Russia: it became the principal supplier of solid fuels in 2006, overtaking South Africa, having overtaken Australia in 2004 and Colombia in 2002. Russia’s share of EU-28 solid fuels imports rose from 18.0 % in 2004 to 30.0 % by 2009, before falling somewhat to 25.7 % by 2012 and rebounding to 29.0 % in 2014. By contrast, Russia’s share of EU-28 imports of natural gas declined from 43.6 % to 32.1 % between 2004 and 2010, but this development was reversed with increases thereafter leading to a share of 37.5 % in 2014. Throughout the 10 years shown in Table 3, Norway remained the second largest supplier of EU imports of crude oil and natural gas.

EU-28 dependency on energy imports increased from less than 40 % of Gross inland energy consumption, sometimes abbreviated as gross inland consumption, is the total energy demand of a country or region. ..." gloss-idx="7" original-title="Glossary:Gross inland energy consumption" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">gross energy consumption in the 1980s to reach 53.5 % by 2014 (see Figure 3). This latest figure marked a slight decrease in the dependency rate, which had peaked at 54.5 % in 2008. The highest energy dependency rate shows the proportion of energy that an economy must import. It is defined as net energy imports divided by gross ..." gloss-idx="8" original-title="Glossary:Energy dependency rate" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for crude oil (88.2 %) and for natural gas (67.4 %). In the last decade (between 2004 and 2014), the EU’s dependency on non-member countries for supplies of natural gas grew 13.8 percentage points, faster than the growth in dependency for crude oil (7.5 percentage points) and solid fuels (7.4 percentage points). Since 2004, the EU-28’s net imports of energy have been greater than its primary production; in other words, more than half of the EU-28’s gross inland energy consumption was supplied by net imports.

As it was no longer a net exporter, Denmark’s energy dependency rate turned positive in 2013 and remained positive in 2014, which was also the case for all of the other EU Member States (see Figure 4). The lowest energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for Estonia, Denmark, Romania and Poland (the only other Member States to report dependency rates below 30.0 %). Malta, Luxembourg and Cyprus were (almost) entirely dependent on primary energy imports, with dependency rates that were over 90 %.

Energy production and imports - Statistics Explained

So you think Trump is going to bring back living wage jobs in the coal industry, because of coal exports. Not gonna happen without massive federal subsidies.

 

[jon_berzerk]

maybe 3rd

not top

Oh I guess in September Saudi Arabia overtook us. I guess they're desperate because oil demand is so low and they're having a firesale.

Saudi Arabia Ousts U.S. as Biggest Oil Producer, IEA Says

pretty much every year

them and Russia also

although we are trying to reclaim the European market

without much success

we do sell them coal half assed through the Netherlands resale to Europe

Half-assed because the demand for coal in Europe isn't there

you live in a bubble man



The downturn in the primary production of hard coal, lignite, crude oil, natural gas and more recently nuclear energy led to a situation where the EU was increasingly reliant on primary energy imports in order to satisfy demand, although this situation stabilised in the aftermath of the financial and economic crisis. The EU-28’s imports of primary energy exceeded exports by some 881 Mtoe in 2014. The largest net importers of primary energy were generally the most populous EU Member States, with the exception of Poland (where some indigenous reserves of coal remain). In 2004, Denmark had been the only net exporter of primary energy among the EU Member States, but in 2013 Danish energy imports exceeded exports such that there were no longer any Member States that were net exporters of energy (see Table 2). Relative to population size, the largest net importers in 2014 were Luxembourg, Malta and Belgium.

he origin of EU-28 energy imports has changed somewhat in recent years, although Russia has maintained its position as the main supplier of crude oil and natural gas (despite seeing its share reduced somewhat in recent years) and also emerged as the leading supplier of solid fuels (see Table 3). In 2014, some 29.0 % of the EU-28’s imports of crude oil were from Russia: it became the principal supplier of solid fuels in 2006, overtaking South Africa, having overtaken Australia in 2004 and Colombia in 2002. Russia’s share of EU-28 solid fuels imports rose from 18.0 % in 2004 to 30.0 % by 2009, before falling somewhat to 25.7 % by 2012 and rebounding to 29.0 % in 2014. By contrast, Russia’s share of EU-28 imports of natural gas declined from 43.6 % to 32.1 % between 2004 and 2010, but this development was reversed with increases thereafter leading to a share of 37.5 % in 2014. Throughout the 10 years shown in Table 3, Norway remained the second largest supplier of EU imports of crude oil and natural gas.

EU-28 dependency on energy imports increased from less than 40 % of Gross inland energy consumption, sometimes abbreviated as gross inland consumption, is the total energy demand of a country or region. ..." gloss-idx="7" original-title="Glossary:Gross inland energy consumption" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">gross energy consumption in the 1980s to reach 53.5 % by 2014 (see Figure 3). This latest figure marked a slight decrease in the dependency rate, which had peaked at 54.5 % in 2008. The highest energy dependency rate shows the proportion of energy that an economy must import. It is defined as net energy imports divided by gross ..." gloss-idx="8" original-title="Glossary:Energy dependency rate" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for crude oil (88.2 %) and for natural gas (67.4 %). In the last decade (between 2004 and 2014), the EU’s dependency on non-member countries for supplies of natural gas grew 13.8 percentage points, faster than the growth in dependency for crude oil (7.5 percentage points) and solid fuels (7.4 percentage points). Since 2004, the EU-28’s net imports of energy have been greater than its primary production; in other words, more than half of the EU-28’s gross inland energy consumption was supplied by net imports.

As it was no longer a net exporter, Denmark’s energy dependency rate turned positive in 2013 and remained positive in 2014, which was also the case for all of the other EU Member States (see Figure 4). The lowest energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for Estonia, Denmark, Romania and Poland (the only other Member States to report dependency rates below 30.0 %). Malta, Luxembourg and Cyprus were (almost) entirely dependent on primary energy imports, with dependency rates that were over 90 %.

Energy production and imports - Statistics Explained

So you think Trump is going to bring back living wage jobs in the coal industry, because of coal exports. Not gonna happen without massive federal subsidies.

we will have to wait and see what happens

obama never should have let the Russians

become such big fuel exporters to Europe

a lot of damage has been done

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

 

[TheOldSchool]

Oh I guess in September Saudi Arabia overtook us. I guess they're desperate because oil demand is so low and they're having a firesale.

Saudi Arabia Ousts U.S. as Biggest Oil Producer, IEA Says

pretty much every year

them and Russia also

although we are trying to reclaim the European market

without much success

we do sell them coal half assed through the Netherlands resale to Europe

Half-assed because the demand for coal in Europe isn't there

you live in a bubble man



The downturn in the primary production of hard coal, lignite, crude oil, natural gas and more recently nuclear energy led to a situation where the EU was increasingly reliant on primary energy imports in order to satisfy demand, although this situation stabilised in the aftermath of the financial and economic crisis. The EU-28’s imports of primary energy exceeded exports by some 881 Mtoe in 2014. The largest net importers of primary energy were generally the most populous EU Member States, with the exception of Poland (where some indigenous reserves of coal remain). In 2004, Denmark had been the only net exporter of primary energy among the EU Member States, but in 2013 Danish energy imports exceeded exports such that there were no longer any Member States that were net exporters of energy (see Table 2). Relative to population size, the largest net importers in 2014 were Luxembourg, Malta and Belgium.

he origin of EU-28 energy imports has changed somewhat in recent years, although Russia has maintained its position as the main supplier of crude oil and natural gas (despite seeing its share reduced somewhat in recent years) and also emerged as the leading supplier of solid fuels (see Table 3). In 2014, some 29.0 % of the EU-28’s imports of crude oil were from Russia: it became the principal supplier of solid fuels in 2006, overtaking South Africa, having overtaken Australia in 2004 and Colombia in 2002. Russia’s share of EU-28 solid fuels imports rose from 18.0 % in 2004 to 30.0 % by 2009, before falling somewhat to 25.7 % by 2012 and rebounding to 29.0 % in 2014. By contrast, Russia’s share of EU-28 imports of natural gas declined from 43.6 % to 32.1 % between 2004 and 2010, but this development was reversed with increases thereafter leading to a share of 37.5 % in 2014. Throughout the 10 years shown in Table 3, Norway remained the second largest supplier of EU imports of crude oil and natural gas.

EU-28 dependency on energy imports increased from less than 40 % of Gross inland energy consumption, sometimes abbreviated as gross inland consumption, is the total energy demand of a country or region. ..." gloss-idx="7" original-title="Glossary:Gross inland energy consumption" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">gross energy consumption in the 1980s to reach 53.5 % by 2014 (see Figure 3). This latest figure marked a slight decrease in the dependency rate, which had peaked at 54.5 % in 2008. The highest energy dependency rate shows the proportion of energy that an economy must import. It is defined as net energy imports divided by gross ..." gloss-idx="8" original-title="Glossary:Energy dependency rate" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for crude oil (88.2 %) and for natural gas (67.4 %). In the last decade (between 2004 and 2014), the EU’s dependency on non-member countries for supplies of natural gas grew 13.8 percentage points, faster than the growth in dependency for crude oil (7.5 percentage points) and solid fuels (7.4 percentage points). Since 2004, the EU-28’s net imports of energy have been greater than its primary production; in other words, more than half of the EU-28’s gross inland energy consumption was supplied by net imports.

As it was no longer a net exporter, Denmark’s energy dependency rate turned positive in 2013 and remained positive in 2014, which was also the case for all of the other EU Member States (see Figure 4). The lowest energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for Estonia, Denmark, Romania and Poland (the only other Member States to report dependency rates below 30.0 %). Malta, Luxembourg and Cyprus were (almost) entirely dependent on primary energy imports, with dependency rates that were over 90 %.

Energy production and imports - Statistics Explained

So you think Trump is going to bring back living wage jobs in the coal industry, because of coal exports. Not gonna happen without massive federal subsidies.

we will have to wait and see what happens

obama never should have let the Russians

become such big fuel exporters to Europe

a lot of damage has been done

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

Not coal, and your article is 2 years old. America has increased exports to Europe since then, and in that time, demand for U.S. coal is stagnant as ever.

 

[sealybobo]

you had a president that promised to bankrupt the coal industry

No we didn't.

Being pragmatic about the dim future of the coal industry is not a promise to bankrupt it

indeed he did

"What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as an ideological matter, ..r."


Yep.

It's real dirty. We should sell our coal to china

And do what for all the energy that we suddenly don't have?

Let them pollute and manufacture for us. We don't use coal because it's dirty. I want to put the coal miners back to work sell it to china. They don't have any. Sell to Mexico too

 

[jon_berzerk]

pretty much every year

them and Russia also

although we are trying to reclaim the European market

without much success

we do sell them coal half assed through the Netherlands resale to Europe

Half-assed because the demand for coal in Europe isn't there

you live in a bubble man



The downturn in the primary production of hard coal, lignite, crude oil, natural gas and more recently nuclear energy led to a situation where the EU was increasingly reliant on primary energy imports in order to satisfy demand, although this situation stabilised in the aftermath of the financial and economic crisis. The EU-28’s imports of primary energy exceeded exports by some 881 Mtoe in 2014. The largest net importers of primary energy were generally the most populous EU Member States, with the exception of Poland (where some indigenous reserves of coal remain). In 2004, Denmark had been the only net exporter of primary energy among the EU Member States, but in 2013 Danish energy imports exceeded exports such that there were no longer any Member States that were net exporters of energy (see Table 2). Relative to population size, the largest net importers in 2014 were Luxembourg, Malta and Belgium.

he origin of EU-28 energy imports has changed somewhat in recent years, although Russia has maintained its position as the main supplier of crude oil and natural gas (despite seeing its share reduced somewhat in recent years) and also emerged as the leading supplier of solid fuels (see Table 3). In 2014, some 29.0 % of the EU-28’s imports of crude oil were from Russia: it became the principal supplier of solid fuels in 2006, overtaking South Africa, having overtaken Australia in 2004 and Colombia in 2002. Russia’s share of EU-28 solid fuels imports rose from 18.0 % in 2004 to 30.0 % by 2009, before falling somewhat to 25.7 % by 2012 and rebounding to 29.0 % in 2014. By contrast, Russia’s share of EU-28 imports of natural gas declined from 43.6 % to 32.1 % between 2004 and 2010, but this development was reversed with increases thereafter leading to a share of 37.5 % in 2014. Throughout the 10 years shown in Table 3, Norway remained the second largest supplier of EU imports of crude oil and natural gas.

EU-28 dependency on energy imports increased from less than 40 % of Gross inland energy consumption, sometimes abbreviated as gross inland consumption, is the total energy demand of a country or region. ..." gloss-idx="7" original-title="Glossary:Gross inland energy consumption" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">gross energy consumption in the 1980s to reach 53.5 % by 2014 (see Figure 3). This latest figure marked a slight decrease in the dependency rate, which had peaked at 54.5 % in 2008. The highest energy dependency rate shows the proportion of energy that an economy must import. It is defined as net energy imports divided by gross ..." gloss-idx="8" original-title="Glossary:Energy dependency rate" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for crude oil (88.2 %) and for natural gas (67.4 %). In the last decade (between 2004 and 2014), the EU’s dependency on non-member countries for supplies of natural gas grew 13.8 percentage points, faster than the growth in dependency for crude oil (7.5 percentage points) and solid fuels (7.4 percentage points). Since 2004, the EU-28’s net imports of energy have been greater than its primary production; in other words, more than half of the EU-28’s gross inland energy consumption was supplied by net imports.

As it was no longer a net exporter, Denmark’s energy dependency rate turned positive in 2013 and remained positive in 2014, which was also the case for all of the other EU Member States (see Figure 4). The lowest energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for Estonia, Denmark, Romania and Poland (the only other Member States to report dependency rates below 30.0 %). Malta, Luxembourg and Cyprus were (almost) entirely dependent on primary energy imports, with dependency rates that were over 90 %.

Energy production and imports - Statistics Explained

So you think Trump is going to bring back living wage jobs in the coal industry, because of coal exports. Not gonna happen without massive federal subsidies.

we will have to wait and see what happens

obama never should have let the Russians

become such big fuel exporters to Europe

a lot of damage has been done

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

Not coal, and your article is 2 years old. America has increased exports to Europe since then, and in that time, demand for U.S. coal is stagnant as ever.

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

 

[jon_berzerk]

No we didn't.

Being pragmatic about the dim future of the coal industry is not a promise to bankrupt it

indeed he did

"What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as an ideological matter, ..r."


Yep.

It's real dirty. We should sell our coal to china

And do what for all the energy that we suddenly don't have?

Let them pollute and manufacture for us. We don't use coal because it's dirty. I want to put the coal miners back to work sell it to china. They don't have any. Sell to Mexico too

a good business man like Trump will be able to sell it all over the place

Europe needs a lot of it for example

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Really?

Yeah look at that stagnant U.S. demand. Bringing our jobs back indeed.

The EPA stifled the industry. Democrats should not be allowed to vote.

If true, then there should be massive demand because people cannot meet their energy needs! Tell me, how many hours a day is your home without power thanks to the EPA?

My energy bills, including car fuel, have stifled my consumption thanks to the EPA driving up costs. It's happened to you, too.
Democrats should not be allowed to vote.

Loved that 4$/gal under your buddy Bush & the Republicans?

It was the democrat Congress who wouldn't allow offshore drilling that drove up the price as global demand squeezed supply. Dems finally relented Sept 2008 and the price dropped to $1.35. Obama was inaugurated and immediately reimposed restrictions and the price went back up to $4.00+.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Half-assed because the demand for coal in Europe isn't there

you live in a bubble man



The downturn in the primary production of hard coal, lignite, crude oil, natural gas and more recently nuclear energy led to a situation where the EU was increasingly reliant on primary energy imports in order to satisfy demand, although this situation stabilised in the aftermath of the financial and economic crisis. The EU-28’s imports of primary energy exceeded exports by some 881 Mtoe in 2014. The largest net importers of primary energy were generally the most populous EU Member States, with the exception of Poland (where some indigenous reserves of coal remain). In 2004, Denmark had been the only net exporter of primary energy among the EU Member States, but in 2013 Danish energy imports exceeded exports such that there were no longer any Member States that were net exporters of energy (see Table 2). Relative to population size, the largest net importers in 2014 were Luxembourg, Malta and Belgium.

he origin of EU-28 energy imports has changed somewhat in recent years, although Russia has maintained its position as the main supplier of crude oil and natural gas (despite seeing its share reduced somewhat in recent years) and also emerged as the leading supplier of solid fuels (see Table 3). In 2014, some 29.0 % of the EU-28’s imports of crude oil were from Russia: it became the principal supplier of solid fuels in 2006, overtaking South Africa, having overtaken Australia in 2004 and Colombia in 2002. Russia’s share of EU-28 solid fuels imports rose from 18.0 % in 2004 to 30.0 % by 2009, before falling somewhat to 25.7 % by 2012 and rebounding to 29.0 % in 2014. By contrast, Russia’s share of EU-28 imports of natural gas declined from 43.6 % to 32.1 % between 2004 and 2010, but this development was reversed with increases thereafter leading to a share of 37.5 % in 2014. Throughout the 10 years shown in Table 3, Norway remained the second largest supplier of EU imports of crude oil and natural gas.

EU-28 dependency on energy imports increased from less than 40 % of Gross inland energy consumption, sometimes abbreviated as gross inland consumption, is the total energy demand of a country or region. ..." gloss-idx="7" original-title="Glossary:Gross inland energy consumption" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">gross energy consumption in the 1980s to reach 53.5 % by 2014 (see Figure 3). This latest figure marked a slight decrease in the dependency rate, which had peaked at 54.5 % in 2008. The highest energy dependency rate shows the proportion of energy that an economy must import. It is defined as net energy imports divided by gross ..." gloss-idx="8" original-title="Glossary:Energy dependency rate" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for crude oil (88.2 %) and for natural gas (67.4 %). In the last decade (between 2004 and 2014), the EU’s dependency on non-member countries for supplies of natural gas grew 13.8 percentage points, faster than the growth in dependency for crude oil (7.5 percentage points) and solid fuels (7.4 percentage points). Since 2004, the EU-28’s net imports of energy have been greater than its primary production; in other words, more than half of the EU-28’s gross inland energy consumption was supplied by net imports.

As it was no longer a net exporter, Denmark’s energy dependency rate turned positive in 2013 and remained positive in 2014, which was also the case for all of the other EU Member States (see Figure 4). The lowest energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for Estonia, Denmark, Romania and Poland (the only other Member States to report dependency rates below 30.0 %). Malta, Luxembourg and Cyprus were (almost) entirely dependent on primary energy imports, with dependency rates that were over 90 %.

Energy production and imports - Statistics Explained

So you think Trump is going to bring back living wage jobs in the coal industry, because of coal exports. Not gonna happen without massive federal subsidies.

we will have to wait and see what happens

obama never should have let the Russians

become such big fuel exporters to Europe

a lot of damage has been done

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

Not coal, and your article is 2 years old. America has increased exports to Europe since then, and in that time, demand for U.S. coal is stagnant as ever.

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

Europe gets almost all of its ebergy from other sources. But maybe Trump will convince Europe to pay way more for coal from the U.S. So that he can bring living wage jobs there is no demand for back.

 

[tigerred59]

looks like they are going to get a wake up call on being conned


From West Virginia to Wyoming, coal country overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump and his message that he will bring coal jobs back. Now, those same voters are eyeing his incoming administration closely, careful to see if he will keep his promises to revive the coal industry and get miners back to work.

These hopes have become increasingly desperate as the industry has floundered. U.S. coal production in 2016 is projected to be at its lowest level since 1978, and over the past few years, the country has lost about 30,000 coal jobs.

Coal Country Picked Trump. Now, They Want Him To Keep His Promises

Wait a minute, you mean to tell me, these mindless fuckin white shit for brains mf's is hoping Trump will bring back coal mining jobs, while getting rid of regulations, the EPA, OSHA and the Dept. of Energy??? One more time, ON YOUR BEST DAY, FRESH OFF OF A CRACK PIPE, YOU COULDN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP...GOTDAMN WHY ARE WHITE PEOPLE SO GOTDAMNED IGNORANT...WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE, YOU ARE BEYOND INSANE, YOU MF'S ARE SERIOUSLY CRAZY, BAT SHIT FUCKIN CRAZY!!

 

[jon_berzerk]

you live in a bubble man



The downturn in the primary production of hard coal, lignite, crude oil, natural gas and more recently nuclear energy led to a situation where the EU was increasingly reliant on primary energy imports in order to satisfy demand, although this situation stabilised in the aftermath of the financial and economic crisis. The EU-28’s imports of primary energy exceeded exports by some 881 Mtoe in 2014. The largest net importers of primary energy were generally the most populous EU Member States, with the exception of Poland (where some indigenous reserves of coal remain). In 2004, Denmark had been the only net exporter of primary energy among the EU Member States, but in 2013 Danish energy imports exceeded exports such that there were no longer any Member States that were net exporters of energy (see Table 2). Relative to population size, the largest net importers in 2014 were Luxembourg, Malta and Belgium.

he origin of EU-28 energy imports has changed somewhat in recent years, although Russia has maintained its position as the main supplier of crude oil and natural gas (despite seeing its share reduced somewhat in recent years) and also emerged as the leading supplier of solid fuels (see Table 3). In 2014, some 29.0 % of the EU-28’s imports of crude oil were from Russia: it became the principal supplier of solid fuels in 2006, overtaking South Africa, having overtaken Australia in 2004 and Colombia in 2002. Russia’s share of EU-28 solid fuels imports rose from 18.0 % in 2004 to 30.0 % by 2009, before falling somewhat to 25.7 % by 2012 and rebounding to 29.0 % in 2014. By contrast, Russia’s share of EU-28 imports of natural gas declined from 43.6 % to 32.1 % between 2004 and 2010, but this development was reversed with increases thereafter leading to a share of 37.5 % in 2014. Throughout the 10 years shown in Table 3, Norway remained the second largest supplier of EU imports of crude oil and natural gas.

EU-28 dependency on energy imports increased from less than 40 % of Gross inland energy consumption, sometimes abbreviated as gross inland consumption, is the total energy demand of a country or region. ..." gloss-idx="7" original-title="Glossary:Gross inland energy consumption" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">gross energy consumption in the 1980s to reach 53.5 % by 2014 (see Figure 3). This latest figure marked a slight decrease in the dependency rate, which had peaked at 54.5 % in 2008. The highest energy dependency rate shows the proportion of energy that an economy must import. It is defined as net energy imports divided by gross ..." gloss-idx="8" original-title="Glossary:Energy dependency rate" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(40, 115, 230);">energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for crude oil (88.2 %) and for natural gas (67.4 %). In the last decade (between 2004 and 2014), the EU’s dependency on non-member countries for supplies of natural gas grew 13.8 percentage points, faster than the growth in dependency for crude oil (7.5 percentage points) and solid fuels (7.4 percentage points). Since 2004, the EU-28’s net imports of energy have been greater than its primary production; in other words, more than half of the EU-28’s gross inland energy consumption was supplied by net imports.

As it was no longer a net exporter, Denmark’s energy dependency rate turned positive in 2013 and remained positive in 2014, which was also the case for all of the other EU Member States (see Figure 4). The lowest energy dependency rates in 2014 were recorded for Estonia, Denmark, Romania and Poland (the only other Member States to report dependency rates below 30.0 %). Malta, Luxembourg and Cyprus were (almost) entirely dependent on primary energy imports, with dependency rates that were over 90 %.

Energy production and imports - Statistics Explained

So you think Trump is going to bring back living wage jobs in the coal industry, because of coal exports. Not gonna happen without massive federal subsidies.

we will have to wait and see what happens

obama never should have let the Russians

become such big fuel exporters to Europe

a lot of damage has been done

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

Not coal, and your article is 2 years old. America has increased exports to Europe since then, and in that time, demand for U.S. coal is stagnant as ever.

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

Europe gets almost all of its ebergy from other sources. But maybe Trump will convince Europe to pay way more for coal from the U.S. So that he can bring living wage jobs there is no demand for back.

Europe gets almost all of its energy from other sources.

Like I said dork Russia

obama let that happen

time to make the changes happen

a good business man can do it


Europe asked us to sell energy to them

obama told them to go frack themselves

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas
EU seeks to break Russian stranglehold on energy supplies – but US president says Europe must step up its own fracking

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

 

[TheOldSchool]

So you think Trump is going to bring back living wage jobs in the coal industry, because of coal exports. Not gonna happen without massive federal subsidies.

we will have to wait and see what happens

obama never should have let the Russians

become such big fuel exporters to Europe

a lot of damage has been done

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

Not coal, and your article is 2 years old. America has increased exports to Europe since then, and in that time, demand for U.S. coal is stagnant as ever.

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

Europe gets almost all of its ebergy from other sources. But maybe Trump will convince Europe to pay way more for coal from the U.S. So that he can bring living wage jobs there is no demand for back.

Europe gets almost all of its energy from other sources.

Like I said dork Russia

obama let that happen

time to make the changes happen

a good business man can do it


Europe asked us to sell energy to them

obama told them to go frack themselves

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas
EU seeks to break Russian stranglehold on energy supplies – but US president says Europe must step up its own fracking

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

You posted the same 2 1/2 year old article. We gave Europe what they wanted. And again, not coal.

 

[rightwinger]

Failure?

Why I'm merely laying out an agenda of what I expect Trump to accomplish. He is only following "the worst president in history". He should be able to do better than a community organizer from Kenya........shouldn't he?

Your words, from earlier in the thread.


"and now they are shocked that he can't deliver"


SO, now I am asking you, now that you have walked that back to waiting till he is in office, "the day his bills come due",

how long is "Very patient", before you declare him a failure again, or <hee hee> admit that he has succeeded?


Hours? Days?

I am as patient as Job

Those in coal country will not be

How long do you consider reasonable to give a President before you pass judgement on his presidency?

I plan on evaluating his progress monthly

Oh, and the first 30 days? you are claiming that your first evaluation will not be a blanket declaration of failure like "he can't deliver" like earlier?

Trump will be compared to the community organizer from Kenya

What can be wrong with that?

 

[jon_berzerk]

we will have to wait and see what happens

obama never should have let the Russians

become such big fuel exporters to Europe

a lot of damage has been done

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

Not coal, and your article is 2 years old. America has increased exports to Europe since then, and in that time, demand for U.S. coal is stagnant as ever.

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

Europe gets almost all of its ebergy from other sources. But maybe Trump will convince Europe to pay way more for coal from the U.S. So that he can bring living wage jobs there is no demand for back.

Europe gets almost all of its energy from other sources.

Like I said dork Russia

obama let that happen

time to make the changes happen

a good business man can do it


Europe asked us to sell energy to them

obama told them to go frack themselves

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas
EU seeks to break Russian stranglehold on energy supplies – but US president says Europe must step up its own fracking

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

You posted the same 2 1/2 year old article. We gave Europe what they wanted. And again, not coal.

no i didnt

we will have to wait and see what happens

obama never should have let the Russians

become such big fuel exporters to Europe

a lot of damage has been done

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

Not coal, and your article is 2 years old. America has increased exports to Europe since then, and in that time, demand for U.S. coal is stagnant as ever.

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

Europe gets almost all of its ebergy from other sources. But maybe Trump will convince Europe to pay way more for coal from the U.S. So that he can bring living wage jobs there is no demand for back.

Europe gets almost all of its energy from other sources.

Like I said dork Russia

obama let that happen

time to make the changes happen

a good business man can do it


Europe asked us to sell energy to them

obama told them to go frack themselves

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas
EU seeks to break Russian stranglehold on energy supplies – but US president says Europe must step up its own fracking

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

You posted the same 2 1/2 year old article. We gave Europe what they wanted. And again, not coal.

it is not the same article asshole

the article shows that obama blew it

 

[TheOldSchool]

Not coal, and your article is 2 years old. America has increased exports to Europe since then, and in that time, demand for U.S. coal is stagnant as ever.

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

Europe gets almost all of its ebergy from other sources. But maybe Trump will convince Europe to pay way more for coal from the U.S. So that he can bring living wage jobs there is no demand for back.

Europe gets almost all of its energy from other sources.

Like I said dork Russia

obama let that happen

time to make the changes happen

a good business man can do it


Europe asked us to sell energy to them

obama told them to go frack themselves

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas
EU seeks to break Russian stranglehold on energy supplies – but US president says Europe must step up its own fracking

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

You posted the same 2 1/2 year old article. We gave Europe what they wanted. And again, not coal.

no i didnt

Not coal, and your article is 2 years old. America has increased exports to Europe since then, and in that time, demand for U.S. coal is stagnant as ever.

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

Europe gets almost all of its ebergy from other sources. But maybe Trump will convince Europe to pay way more for coal from the U.S. So that he can bring living wage jobs there is no demand for back.

Europe gets almost all of its energy from other sources.

Like I said dork Russia

obama let that happen

time to make the changes happen

a good business man can do it


Europe asked us to sell energy to them

obama told them to go frack themselves

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas
EU seeks to break Russian stranglehold on energy supplies – but US president says Europe must step up its own fracking

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

You posted the same 2 1/2 year old article. We gave Europe what they wanted. And again, not coal.

it is not the same article asshole

the article shows that obama blew it

Same article you posted in post #125. 2 1/2 years old and the U.S. has increased exports since then.

And if you're going to call me an asshole for telling the truth then go fuck yourself

 

[guno]

“I’m thinking about the miners all over this country,” Trump said. “We’re gonna put the miners back to work. We’re gonna put the miners back to work. We’re gonna get those mines open.”

His comments were directed at a plunging industry. Eastern coal is facing rising extraction costs because its veins are thinner and buried deeper than the coal in Wyoming’s sprawling Powder River Basin. Eastern coal can cost up to twice as much as the western resource, making it unable to compete against cheaper natural gas, experts said.

West Virginia is especially suffering. Its production peaked in 2008 at 158 million short tons. It’s been tumbling ever since as hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling have supplied greater amounts of natural gas. This year, the state is expected to extract between 80 million and 90 million short tons, Deskins said.

“Coal keeps producing worse than we expect,” he said.

Trump Cannot Bring Back Coal


Senate Majority Leader from Kentucky: Coal Jobs May Not Come Back

 

[Vandalshandle]

Our coal industry is gradually disappearing. The economics are no longer there

no

it was being shut down by the administration

It has been shut down by low cost natural gas

hey moron your candidate clinton

ran on the platform of killing the coal industry

Not at all. Coal was already on its way out. Clinton ran on being honest & helping the Coal communities recover & move on to other things.

Trump told them he'd bring back coal - That is unlikely.

yes the president promised to bankrupt the coal industry

I must have missed that particular Hillary speech.

 

[jon_berzerk]

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

Europe gets almost all of its ebergy from other sources. But maybe Trump will convince Europe to pay way more for coal from the U.S. So that he can bring living wage jobs there is no demand for back.

Europe gets almost all of its energy from other sources.

Like I said dork Russia

obama let that happen

time to make the changes happen

a good business man can do it


Europe asked us to sell energy to them

obama told them to go frack themselves

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas
EU seeks to break Russian stranglehold on energy supplies – but US president says Europe must step up its own fracking

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

You posted the same 2 1/2 year old article. We gave Europe what they wanted. And again, not coal.

no i didnt

coal as well

the German need for coal will only increase

fact is Europe is using lots of coal and even more

whether you like it or not


once Germany closes its it hard coal mines in 2019

they will have to import all of it

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

Europe gets almost all of its ebergy from other sources. But maybe Trump will convince Europe to pay way more for coal from the U.S. So that he can bring living wage jobs there is no demand for back.

Europe gets almost all of its energy from other sources.

Like I said dork Russia

obama let that happen

time to make the changes happen

a good business man can do it


Europe asked us to sell energy to them

obama told them to go frack themselves

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas
EU seeks to break Russian stranglehold on energy supplies – but US president says Europe must step up its own fracking

European leaders ask Obama to allow increased exports of US shale gas

You posted the same 2 1/2 year old article. We gave Europe what they wanted. And again, not coal.

it is not the same article asshole

the article shows that obama blew it

Same article you posted in post #125. 2 1/2 years old and the U.S. has increased exports since then.

And if you're going to call me an asshole for telling the truth then go fuck yourself

fuck you kiss my ass

this one is from feb 2016

Germany’s dependence on imported fossil fuels

plus Germany has imported more coal

German coal imports from Russia highest since 2006
Published time: 13 Feb, 2015

German coal imports from Russia highest since 2006