Commutation of Stone Sentence Correct Move

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, when Barack Obama commuted the sentence of Oscar Lopez Rivera.

Sorry, I'm not familiar with that particular batshyte crazy conspiracy theory. Did the wrongdoing take place in a pizza parlor?

Sorry, that was a case where Obama commuted the sentence of a violent terrorist bomber.

 

[bripat9643]

I was truly mystified by that.

I'm sure you were. Because you believed all the horseshit, fever swamp accusations you've heard about both men. IOW, you got duped again. Wake the hell up. They're playing you.

Which ones weren't true?

 

[berg80]

WASHINGTON — President Trump has said he learned lessons from President Richard M. Nixon’s fall from grace, but in using the power of his office to keep his friend and adviser Roger J. Stone Jr. out of prison he has now crossed a line that even Mr. Nixon in the depths of Watergate dared not cross.

For months, some of Mr. Trump’s senior White House advisers warned him that it would be politically self-destructive if not ethically inappropriate to use his clemency power to help Mr. Stone, who was convicted of lying to protect the president. But in casting aside their counsel on Friday, Mr. Trump indulged his own sense of grievance over precedent and restraint to reward an ally for his silence.

In Commuting Stone’s Sentence, Trump Goes Where Nixon Would Not (Published 2020)

Senator Mitt Romney called the commutation an act of “unprecedented, historic corruption.” Attorney General William P. Barr privately argued against clemency for the president’s friend.

www.nytimes.com

 

[bripat9643]

Go away, turd. You are obviously stalking me. I'm tired of your endless posts saying nothing more than "nuh uhn!."

He's "stalking" you by exposing your lies. You don't like being shown to be a liar, so you accuse him of "stalking" rather than tell the truth.

Join him in the "being ignored" line.

 

[meaner gene]

Sorry, that was a case where Obama commuted the sentence of a violent terrorist bomber.

López Rivera was not directly linked to any specific bombings.

U.S. President Bill Clinton offered him and 13 other convicted FALN members conditional clemency in 1999; López Rivera rejected the offer on the grounds that not all incarcerated FALN members received pardons. In January 2017, President Barack Obama commuted López Rivera's sentence; he was released in May 2017, having served 36 years in prison, longer than any other member of the FALN.

 

[bripat9643]

Barr isn't willing to toss esablished procedures into the waste bin like Democrat AGs.

Hold up... didn’t Barr just step in and drop the Flynn case? That directly goes against what you just said does it not?

Having an anal retentive defintition for a word I used doesn't make it a lie, jackass.

Barr dropping charges against Flynn is what you claimed Barr wouldn't do. So you lied.

There's nothing "established" about what is being done to Flynn, douchebag.

 

[berg80]

Which ones weren't true?

Sorry, I'm having trouble opening my file labeled, "unsubstantiated bullshit right wing media and Trump has accused Comey and McCabe of doing." Perhaps you'd like to answer your own question.

 

[meaner gene]

He's "stalking" you by exposing your lies. You don't like being shown to be a liar, so you accuse him of "stalking" rather than tell the truth.

Join him in the "being ignored" line.

I'm in good company, along with the TRUTH you also put on ignore.

 

[berg80]

There's nothing "established" about what is being done to Flynn

He confessed to the crime he committed multiple times stating unequivocally he was not under duress in doing so.

"After over 33 years of military service to our country, including nearly five years in combat away from my family, and then my decision to continue to serve the United States, it has been extraordinarily painful to endure these many months of false accusations of "treason" and other outrageous acts. Such false accusations are contrary to everything I have ever done and stood for. But I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel's Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions."

December 1, 2017

Michael Flynn Plea Agreement Documents

www.lawfareblog.com

 

[Billiejeens]

*Stone, in fact, said the corrupt part out loud, in a conversation with NBC’s Howard Fineman shortly before Trump’s announcement. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him,” Stone told Fineman. “It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn’t.”*

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/trumps-self-serving-help-roger-stone/

The takeaway here isn't hard to figure out. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him,”...............meaning..............Stone didn't tell the damaging info he knew about.

What information was that?

"A former top Trump campaign official on Tuesday testified that President Donald Trump talked to political trickster Roger Stone about WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign.
That testimony by Rick Gates at Stone’s trial contrasts with Trump’s claim last November that he did not recall speaking to Stone about WikiLeaks, the document disclosure group that during the 2016 campaign released emails stolen from the Democratic Party and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s own campaign chief.

Gates testified in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., that less than a minute after finishing a July 2016 call from Stone, Trump indicated that “more information would be coming” from Wikileaks."

Trump talked to Roger Stone about WikiLeaks, Rick Gates says in testimony contradicting the president

Trump had told special counsel Robert Mueller last November in a written response, "I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with" Roger Stone.

www.cnbc.com

I'd say Stone earned more than a commutation for obstructing the investigation. He should get a penthouse suite in Trump Tower or a permanent room at Mar-A-Lago. Because if Stone hadn't betrayed the country, justice, and basic decency Individual 1 may very well have been impeachment for conspiracy (with Wikileaks) to defraud the voting public. This, on top of the 4 counts of obstruction Mueller provided evidence of in his report.

Your words are factually false

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

Nothing, in other words.

• Multiple top Trump campaign aides told investigators that Trump himself, then the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, knew WikiLeaks had damaging information on the Clinton campaign.
  • Then chairman Paul Manafort, deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates, and personal attorney Michael Cohen told investigators that Stone told Trump and several advisers in July 2016 that he had spoken with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and that the website would begin dumping documents in just a few days.
  • Mueller's team "established that the Trump Campaign displayed interest in the WikiLeaks releases, and that former Campaign member Roger Stone was in contact with the Campaign about those releases, claiming advance knowledge of more to come," the report said.
• Mueller concluded that Trump may have lied to investigators in his written answers to questions in the investigation.
  • "Cohen recalled a conversation in which Roger Stone told Trump that WikiLeaks planned to release information soon, and Manafort recalled that Trump had asked him to stay in touch with Stone about WikiLeaks," the report said.
  • "It is possible that, by the time the President submitted his written answers two years after the relevant events had occurred, he no longer had clear recollections of his discussions with Stone or his knowledge of Stone's asserted communications with WikiLeaks," the report said. "But the President's conduct could also be viewed as reflecting his awareness that Stone could provide evidence that would run counter to the President's denials and would link the President to Stone's efforts to reach out to WikiLeaks."
• Stone "indicated he had knowledge" of Trump's written answers to Mueller.
  • Mueller's report noted that Stone went on Fox News on the evening of January 25, 2019, the day he made his first court appearance after being indicted.
  • "That evening, Stone appeared on Fox News and indicated he had knowledge of the President's answers to this Office's written questions," the report said. "When asked if he had spoken to the President about the allegation that he had lied to Congress, Stone said, 'I have not' and added, 'When the President answered the written interrogatories, he correctly and honestly said, 'Roger Stone and I never discussed this and we never did.'"

The first item is not a crime. The next two are nothing more than gossip.

That GD jury was so rigged like everything else in this Russian BS.

 

[Billiejeens]

Romney nailed it.

“An American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president,” Romney wrote on Twitter.

'Historic corruption': Romney criticizes Trump for commuting Roger Stone's prison sentence

The Utah Senator was the first prominent voice in the Republican Party to publicly disavow the president's decision to erase Stone's prison sentence.

www.nbcnews.com

The other poster is correct

You are a brain damaged douche bag

 

[bripat9643]

He's "stalking" you by exposing your lies. You don't like being shown to be a liar, so you accuse him of "stalking" rather than tell the truth.

Join him in the "being ignored" line.

I'm in good company, along with the TRUTH you also put on ignore.

You, tell the truth? You're a sleazy lying douchebag!

 

[Billiejeens]

Romney nailed it.

“An American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president,” Romney wrote on Twitter.

'Historic corruption': Romney criticizes Trump for commuting Roger Stone's prison sentence

The Utah Senator was the first prominent voice in the Republican Party to publicly disavow the president's decision to erase Stone's prison sentence.

www.nbcnews.com

I laugh at Romney

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

There's nothing "established" about what is being done to Flynn

He confessed to the crime he committed multiple times stating unequivocally he was not under duress in doing so.

"After over 33 years of military service to our country, including nearly five years in combat away from my family, and then my decision to continue to serve the United States, it has been extraordinarily painful to endure these many months of false accusations of "treason" and other outrageous acts. Such false accusations are contrary to everything I have ever done and stood for. But I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel's Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions."

December 1, 2017

Michael Flynn Plea Agreement Documents

www.lawfareblog.com

You wouldn't know history if you tried. Your ilk thinks Lincoln was a slave trader.

You fukterds put us through 5 yrs of this Russian BS when we told you from day 1 you were fulla S.

 

[bripat9643]

There's nothing "established" about what is being done to Flynn

He confessed to the crime he committed multiple times stating unequivocally he was not under duress in doing so.

"After over 33 years of military service to our country, including nearly five years in combat away from my family, and then my decision to continue to serve the United States, it has been extraordinarily painful to endure these many months of false accusations of "treason" and other outrageous acts. Such false accusations are contrary to everything I have ever done and stood for. But I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel's Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions."

December 1, 2017

Michael Flynn Plea Agreement Documents

www.lawfareblog.com

We've only hear this talking point about 10,000 times now. Try posting some arguments that actually support your douchebag opinion instead of DNC talking points.

 

[bripat9643]

Which ones weren't true?

Sorry, I'm having trouble opening my file labeled, "unsubstantiated bullshit right wing media and Trump has accused Comey and McCabe of doing." Perhaps you'd like to answer your own question.

In other words, none of them.

 

[Dana7360]

A history question. Has any prez ever commuted the sentence of someone who withheld crucial evidence during a trial having potential criminal liability or implications for impeachment for that prez?

Not commuted but pardoned.

Check out Casper Weinburger and what bush the first along with bill barr did with the investigation into Iran Contra.

 

[meaner gene]

Michael Flynn Plea Agreement Documents

www.lawfareblog.com

We've only hear this talking point about 10,000 times now. Try posting some arguments that actually support your douchebag opinion instead of DNC talking points.

What about Flynn lying to Vice President Mike Pence. What Flynn told Pence was the same as what Flynn told the FBI. And we know what he told Pence was a lie.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

You conservs here should be ashamed of yourselves. Picking on diaper wearing Adolescent Socialist Malcontents like this. Pick on somebody with brains your own size.