Conservative. Liberal. Democrat. Republican. Left Wing. Right Wing.

[busybee01]

If you dare to question Trump on even his conduct you are considered left wing or liberal. It's like living in Russia. Senate Republicans like Corker and Flake have voted for everything Trump wanted but that is not enough. I was proud to support Ronald Reagan twice. Under Reagan, the Republican Party became the party of ideas. Some parts of Obamacare came from Heritage.

The so-called conservative movement has been corrupted by Trump. I thought Sarah Palin had the potential to be the next Ronald Reagan. However she is a incoherent Trump supporter. She is as obnoxious as he is. The Freedom Caucus should be named Freedom "if you have the money" Caucus. I look at the regulations that are being overturned and I agree with some of it and disagree with others. I can look at each regulation and determine whether they are necessary instead of getting rid of it because Obama did it. That is no basis for doing it.

I consider myself a independent now and O find myself hoping the House falls to the Democrats and Senate to Republicans. That will force compromise.

 

[busybee01]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Consider that no matter what label you decide to use for yourself the Left will trash it.....

The Left is trashing our language and the very meanings of our words so that rational thoughts and ideas are not communicated....they don't want people to think but just follow their ideology...

The Left loves to use labels but is constantly changing the labels and/or the meaning of those labels....they may not make any sense but the whole idea is to stifle any real communication/reasoning and obscure who and what they really are...meaningful words and ideas get lost in the madness....

Stick to your ideas in plain English and forget about trying to label yourself because they really don't care....sometimes all you can really do is just scream back...

The right does the same thing. The statement you made shows how you are part of the problem.

 

[BrokeLoser]

If you dare to question Trump on even his conduct you are considered left wing or liberal. It's like living in Russia. Senate Republicans like Corker and Flake have voted for everything Trump wanted but that is not enough. I was proud to support Ronald Reagan twice. Under Reagan, the Republican Party became the party of ideas. Some parts of Obamacare came from Heritage.

The so-called conservative movement has been corrupted by Trump. I thought Sarah Palin had the potential to be the next Ronald Reagan. However she is a incoherent Trump supporter. She is as obnoxious as he is. The Freedom Caucus should be named Freedom "if you have the money" Caucus. I look at the regulations that are being overturned and I agree with some of it and disagree with others. I can look at each regulation and determine whether they are necessary instead of getting rid of it because Obama did it. That is no basis for doing it.

I consider myself a independent now and O find myself hoping the House falls to the Democrats and Senate to Republicans. That will force compromise.

I call bullshit!
You supported Reagan for one reason and one reason only...he granted amnesty to 3.5 million illegal human cockroaches and you love your filthy wetbacks...PERIOD!

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Consider that no matter what label you decide to use for yourself the Left will trash it.....

The Left is trashing our language and the very meanings of our words so that rational thoughts and ideas are not communicated....they don't want people to think but just follow their ideology...

The Left loves to use labels but is constantly changing the labels and/or the meaning of those labels....they may not make any sense but the whole idea is to stifle any real communication/reasoning and obscure who and what they really are...meaningful words and ideas get lost in the madness....

Stick to your ideas in plain English and forget about trying to label yourself because they really don't care....sometimes all you can really do is just scream back...

The right does the same thing. The statement you made shows how you are part of the problem.

Maybe to a slight degree but not to the extent as the Left does......for example, the Left is destroying the meaning of even basic words like male/female....

 

[busybee01]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Assuming that the question applies to Americans, then 'neutral' would be the values, attitudes and beliefs of the Founders.

Based on that, the Right is 'neutral,' or centrist.....and, while there is a Far Left that has seized control of the major political party.....

....there is no Far Right in this country.

If you doubt that......try to come up with any values, attitudes and beliefs propounded by the Right that run counter to those of the Founders.


There are numerous views, desires and attitudes of the Left, that are far, far from those of this nation.

There is a far right. It starts with white supremacists and neo-nazis. The so-called Freedom Caucus is far right. Instead of finding conservative ways of helping people they tell people who are struggling to drop dead.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Ancaps are far right. Then again, some ancaps are far left, too. They're all sorts of scwewy. It's an oxymoron anyway.

 

[busybee01]

If you dare to question Trump on even his conduct you are considered left wing or liberal. It's like living in Russia. Senate Republicans like Corker and Flake have voted for everything Trump wanted but that is not enough. I was proud to support Ronald Reagan twice. Under Reagan, the Republican Party became the party of ideas. Some parts of Obamacare came from Heritage.

The so-called conservative movement has been corrupted by Trump. I thought Sarah Palin had the potential to be the next Ronald Reagan. However she is a incoherent Trump supporter. She is as obnoxious as he is. The Freedom Caucus should be named Freedom "if you have the money" Caucus. I look at the regulations that are being overturned and I agree with some of it and disagree with others. I can look at each regulation and determine whether they are necessary instead of getting rid of it because Obama did it. That is no basis for doing it.

I consider myself a independent now and O find myself hoping the House falls to the Democrats and Senate to Republicans. That will force compromise.

I call bullshit!
You supported Reagan for one reason and one reason only...he granted amnesty to 3.5 million illegal human cockroaches and you love your filthy wetbacks...PERIOD!

Why don't you shut your damned mouth. You are part of the far right. You are the white supremacist. Ronald Reagan cut taxes, got tax reform and defeated the Soviet Union. He was a great leader without insulting people. He never would have tolerated Trump.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

If you dare to question Trump on even his conduct you are considered left wing or liberal. It's like living in Russia. Senate Republicans like Corker and Flake have voted for everything Trump wanted but that is not enough. I was proud to support Ronald Reagan twice. Under Reagan, the Republican Party became the party of ideas. Some parts of Obamacare came from Heritage.

The so-called conservative movement has been corrupted by Trump. I thought Sarah Palin had the potential to be the next Ronald Reagan. However she is a incoherent Trump supporter. She is as obnoxious as he is. The Freedom Caucus should be named Freedom "if you have the money" Caucus. I look at the regulations that are being overturned and I agree with some of it and disagree with others. I can look at each regulation and determine whether they are necessary instead of getting rid of it because Obama did it. That is no basis for doing it.

I consider myself a independent now and O find myself hoping the House falls to the Democrats and Senate to Republicans. That will force compromise.

Progressives are progressives whether they are in the republican party or the democrat party....and it's not Trump who's not voting for Corker and Flake....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Assuming that the question applies to Americans, then 'neutral' would be the values, attitudes and beliefs of the Founders.

Based on that, the Right is 'neutral,' or centrist.....and, while there is a Far Left that has seized control of the major political party.....

....there is no Far Right in this country.

If you doubt that......try to come up with any values, attitudes and beliefs propounded by the Right that run counter to those of the Founders.


There are numerous views, desires and attitudes of the Left, that are far, far from those of this nation.

There is a far right. It starts with white supremacists and neo-nazis. The so-called Freedom Caucus is far right. Instead of finding conservative ways of helping people they tell people who are struggling to drop dead.

1. .....try to come up with any values, attitudes and beliefs propounded by the Right that run counter to those of the Founders.

You didn't because there are none.
But I can provide lots of Far Left examples that you support.


2. Nazis are Leftists...not on the Right.
"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.

... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?"

Socialists.....just like Liberals.
Both are Leftists.




3. How about you try again:
There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....
Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left

Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always meant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ancaps are far right. Then again, some ancaps are far left, too. They're all sorts of scwewy. It's an oxymoron anyway.

There is no Far Right in this county.....only Far Left.

 

[GordonGecko]

ALL Trumptards love to label and generalize people.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

In picture format....

 

[BrokeLoser]

If you dare to question Trump on even his conduct you are considered left wing or liberal. It's like living in Russia. Senate Republicans like Corker and Flake have voted for everything Trump wanted but that is not enough. I was proud to support Ronald Reagan twice. Under Reagan, the Republican Party became the party of ideas. Some parts of Obamacare came from Heritage.

The so-called conservative movement has been corrupted by Trump. I thought Sarah Palin had the potential to be the next Ronald Reagan. However she is a incoherent Trump supporter. She is as obnoxious as he is. The Freedom Caucus should be named Freedom "if you have the money" Caucus. I look at the regulations that are being overturned and I agree with some of it and disagree with others. I can look at each regulation and determine whether they are necessary instead of getting rid of it because Obama did it. That is no basis for doing it.

I consider myself a independent now and O find myself hoping the House falls to the Democrats and Senate to Republicans. That will force compromise.

I call bullshit!
You supported Reagan for one reason and one reason only...he granted amnesty to 3.5 million illegal human cockroaches and you love your filthy wetbacks...PERIOD!

Why don't you shut your damned mouth. You are part of the far right. You are the white supremacist. Ronald Reagan cut taxes, got tax reform and defeated the Soviet Union. He was a great leader without insulting people. He never would have tolerated Trump.

Haha...you've blown your own cover here bud...you don't give two shits about REAL Americans, American economics and or prosperity and you know it...sell your bullshit somewhere else...your motivation lies in morphing this nation in to an extension of Mexico. You've made it crystal clear.

 

[Crixus]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Why does one have to be "something" anyway? Or at least, why would you give two shits what a retard on a message forum tries to categorize you into ? Haw about not trying to please any of these assholes, or any asshole that makes you feel as though you need to be in their group ?

 

[MPS777]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Assuming that the question applies to Americans, then 'neutral' would be the values, attitudes and beliefs of the Founders.

Based on that, the Right is 'neutral,' or centrist.....and, while there is a Far Left that has seized control of the major political party.....

....there is no Far Right in this country.

If you doubt that......try to come up with any values, attitudes and beliefs propounded by the Right that run counter to those of the Founders.


There are numerous views, desires and attitudes of the Left, that are far, far from those of this nation.

Why assume that the question applies only to Americans? American politics have never existed in a vacuum. American people have always been exposed to and incorporated ideas that arose in different places, and in different times. More than that, the founders had some diametrically opposing “values, attitudes and beliefs”. Some founders believed in white supremacy, others did not. In a later post you would say that:
>>>”To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.”
Really.. American history represents the “center” also? Does that mean the conquest of other people’s lands represent the “center”? Does that mean chattel slavery represents the “center”? Or a collectivist could point out to the fact that public education, public assistance to the poor, and publicly funded infrastructure have always existed in America and are thus American traditions; with subjective interpretation, the “center” could represent whatever you want it to be. So then when you say “Right is 'neutral,' or centrist”, you’re both revealing how those terms are completely subjective, and how you’re completely certain of your subjective interpretation: the “right” IS the center. I suppose that’s a bit like an apple IS a banana.

How would your view account for a libertarian who believes that drugs and prostitution should be completely legal, but also believes in free market capitalism; and a communist that believes that prostitution and recreational drugs should be outlawed? Or we could compare that libertarian to a religious conservative who believes in capitalism, but also believes that prostitution and recreational drugs should be outlawed. The libertarian could lay claim to the American tradition of liberty, while the religious conservative could lay claim to the American tradition of placing government enforced restrictions on drugs and prostitution. Since you’re using a subjective (and apparently one-dimensional) scale, they could both just label the other as “left” or “right”. I think you’ve just invented a scale that puts you at the center, so that you can label everyone else as wrong.

Your fight against “homosexual marriage” I think is a good example of why believers in the supremacy of “tradition” so often lose. There are 1138 statutory provisions that confer special rights and privileges upon “married” people. Marriage is a philosophical construct in the same way as religion is. As long as no one is being harmed the state should butt out. The state can’t be granting special rights and privileges to people who practice “traditional marriage” any more than it can be granting special rights and privileges to people who practice christianity; “equal protection of the laws” as the 14th amendment says. I won’t bother looking to past religious leaders because I know that religious people often hold irrational beliefs. I place priority on logic. People also tried to say the practice of slavery should remain because it was traditional, and that women shouldn’t vote because that was the tradition.

 

[evenflow1969]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

I would consider you to be paying attention!

 

[evenflow1969]

No, I can't. So I generalize. Is there anything wrong with that?

No. Not if you are comfortable being similar to those whom you criticize.

We all generalize to some degree though. I'm not trying to set myself apart. Just call attention to it.

No, I can't. So I generalize. Is there anything wrong with that?

No. Not if you are comfortable being similar to those whom you criticize.

We all generalize to some degree though. I'm not trying to set myself apart. Just call attention to it.

Hate to tell you this! We are more similar than different in most cases! We have forgotten that and that is why we have this polorization. I forgot this for a while myself, but then I found a post by MikeTX that I actually agreed with. I about fell over! It reminded me that we all have commonalities, if we look for them. Can I criticize some one simlar to myself? The answer is Hell yes!!!!! I can criticize myself, no problem with it. Nobody is perfect!

 

[BlackSand]

Well, I agree with the death penalty,
I agree with most people being able to own guns
I agree with having a large powerful military
I agree with the reality that kids are better off in two parent homes
I agree with a strong private sector!

But, yet the republican party has gone so far to the right these days I am seen as a hard core leftist. I voted for Bush, McCain and Romney.

We agree the GOP isn't worth a damn.
Now is there any possible way we could agree the Democrats aren't our best answer ...

I mean I would suggest a third party might be more beneficial ... But I really don't think any of the current ones are worth a damn either.
I have a novel idea ... How about we give power back to the People and let them decide how they can best support the things they want to accomplish without governmental screw-ups and thoroughly embedded corruption?

.

 

[Natural Citizen]

There is no Far Right in this county.....only Far Left.

Applicably speaking, yes. I agree.

In today's political/social arena, however, people tend to tailor their own ism. Hence, my previous thought here. And therein lies the chore at hand.

 

[Natural Citizen]

How about we give power back to the People and let them decide how they can best support the things they want to accomplish without governmental screw-ups and thoroughly embedded corruption?

It's a novel idea. And I agree.

But people want to be led. And lately they don't even care by whom. That's what we're up against. The Kid Rock thing was a prime example of the phenomenon.