Cops ignoring crime to avoid the hassle; Arrests plummet; Violent crime soars.

[bucs90]

Well a cop is different than the court system. In their minds any individual is guilty until proven innocent, it makes sense. how else could they do their jobs? They'd all die in critical situations otherwise. Someone calls 911 cause someone is doing something to someone. That means someone is offensive. Guilty, and the caller is the evidence to support the thought. The cop doesn't get four weeks to prepare on how he/she'd handle the situation. It gets handled then and there. Based on one thing, the thug is guilty and needs to be stopped.

Pretty sure that most cops get a call, and then they go to investigate the call. Lots of loonies call the cops when they are themselves in the wrong.

agree, that's why they go in with the presence of mind that something might be serious and life threatening. they may have to discharge their weapon. They are the one that makes that call, not a lawyer in a court room or judge behind a desk. Nope real life world shit right in front of them. Ever fkn day. I respect the shit out of them with the crap they take from punks and the like. We had a bad cop here, he didn't kill anyone but himself. Fox Lake, IL. He knew he was guilty.

It takes a certain temperament to be cool and collected in such situations. Unfortunately that isn't always the case.

I agree, because sometimes the situation is truly fk'd up. And no fkn human should have to be in those scenarios ever, yet punks present them frequently.

And yet, in the videos on youtube, it's usually the cops instigating a scenario that no human should be subjected to. It isn't as simple as good guys and bad guys. It's imperfect people who don't have sufficient impulse control.

Yes because YouTube videos are always so fair and impartial. Yes cops initiate interactions with shithead and some go bad. Let me guess....most of the ones on YouTube are the ones that went bad right??? Shocker.

 

[bucs90]

If they're not doing their jobs let them go. Save the taxpayers a little money.

Cant. Unions, yay!! Free money!

Cops get fired all the time.

Yes for acts of commission but rarely omission (not working). Cops rarely get fired for a slow down.

Back to the donut bar....

Donut bar??? I don't get it.

 

[jc456]

Well a cop is different than the court system. In their minds any individual is guilty until proven innocent, it makes sense. how else could they do their jobs? They'd all die in critical situations otherwise. Someone calls 911 cause someone is doing something to someone. That means someone is offensive. Guilty, and the caller is the evidence to support the thought. The cop doesn't get four weeks to prepare on how he/she'd handle the situation. It gets handled then and there. Based on one thing, the thug is guilty and needs to be stopped.

Pretty sure that most cops get a call, and then they go to investigate the call. Lots of loonies call the cops when they are themselves in the wrong.

agree, that's why they go in with the presence of mind that something might be serious and life threatening. they may have to discharge their weapon. They are the one that makes that call, not a lawyer in a court room or judge behind a desk. Nope real life world shit right in front of them. Ever fkn day. I respect the shit out of them with the crap they take from punks and the like. We had a bad cop here, he didn't kill anyone but himself. Fox Lake, IL. He knew he was guilty.

It takes a certain temperament to be cool and collected in such situations. Unfortunately that isn't always the case.

I agree, because sometimes the situation is truly fk'd up. And no fkn human should have to be in those scenarios ever, yet punks present them frequently.

And yet, in the videos on youtube, it's usually the cops instigating a scenario that no human should be subjected to. It isn't as simple as good guys and bad guys. It's imperfect people who don't have sufficient impulse control.

so usually, why is a cop there?

 

[Moonglow]

If they're not doing their jobs let them go. Save the taxpayers a little money.

Cant. Unions, yay!! Free money!

Cops get fired all the time.

Yes for acts of commission but rarely omission (not working). Cops rarely get fired for a slow down.

Back to the donut bar....

Donut bar??? I don't get it.

 

[MaryL]

For Chicago cops on the street, more scrutiny brings lower morale, fewer stops

This is a thread about a complex issue. Police actually engaging criminals and....as Hillary calls them..."super predators" in our streets. As many police say...there is a mood of resisting and assaulting police that seems to be creeping into society and one party is openly supporting the movement. And some say it's untrue because they'll say cop deaths are down from 30 years ago. Vests becoming standard issue, improved tactics and trauma care are the reason for that.

But so is simple disengagement. Fewer cops pushing the pace against violent thugs. They atmosphere of aggression on cops is there...but the stats may end up going down for reasons Iike my link. Cops just saying fuck it.

The link describes a Chicago gang officer who stops a car...smells weed from inside the gang members car...driver aggressively talking shit. And the cop says fuck it...ignores it...let's him go. Meanwhile....Chicago's murder rate is soaring. So it's a tough topic to measure. Are assaults on cops up or down?? How do we know what's accurate since cops control how often they are actually in a position to be assaulted??

Chicago arrests are down about 50%....while murders are soaring in the city's bad neighborhoods. But much of the stand down by the officers is caused by the aggression they meet when they try to work. From the thugs and from the media/politicians looking to exploit a cause for ratings or votes. So as the culture of aggression worsens....the cops limit their interactions and the stats of cops being assaulted may actually go down.

Skykar challenged me to "prove aggression on cops is up". I agreed but warned it's a long thread. This is a start.

I also asked him to acknowledge that statistically the #BlackLivesMatter is full of shit. That we have proven that statistically the odds a black individual is killed unlawfully by a cop are so ridiculously tiny that it's not even worth discussion. He didnt.

Silver lining on every cloud, police brutality claims are down. Makes all those preventable crimes all worth it, doesn't it?

 

[Moonglow]

Things would work faster if vigilantes could just give out retribution..

 

[IsaacNewton]

For Chicago cops on the street, more scrutiny brings lower morale, fewer stops

This is a thread about a complex issue. Police actually engaging criminals and....as Hillary calls them..."super predators" in our streets. As many police say...there is a mood of resisting and assaulting police that seems to be creeping into society and one party is openly supporting the movement. And some say it's untrue because they'll say cop deaths are down from 30 years ago. Vests becoming standard issue, improved tactics and trauma care are the reason for that.

But so is simple disengagement. Fewer cops pushing the pace against violent thugs. They atmosphere of aggression on cops is there...but the stats may end up going down for reasons Iike my link. Cops just saying fuck it.

The link describes a Chicago gang officer who stops a car...smells weed from inside the gang members car...driver aggressively talking shit. And the cop says fuck it...ignores it...let's him go. Meanwhile....Chicago's murder rate is soaring. So it's a tough topic to measure. Are assaults on cops up or down?? How do we know what's accurate since cops control how often they are actually in a position to be assaulted??

Chicago arrests are down about 50%....while murders are soaring in the city's bad neighborhoods. But much of the stand down by the officers is caused by the aggression they meet when they try to work. From the thugs and from the media/politicians looking to exploit a cause for ratings or votes. So as the culture of aggression worsens....the cops limit their interactions and the stats of cops being assaulted may actually go down.

Skykar challenged me to "prove aggression on cops is up". I agreed but warned it's a long thread. This is a start.

I also asked him to acknowledge that statistically the #BlackLivesMatter is full of shit. That we have proven that statistically the odds a black individual is killed unlawfully by a cop are so ridiculously tiny that it's not even worth discussion. He didnt.

People that get paid but refuse to do their job? Sounds like Red State welfare.

The culture of godlike powers in the police community has to be broken. The good cops DO NOT point out and weed out the bad cops. THAT is the problem. Once the good cops see they have cover to do that, because police departments have gotten enough heat over the actions of the bad cops, they will start feeling empowered to act.

A cop's job carries the same danger today as it did yesterday and will tomorrow. The bad cops have to be outed and gotten rid of and the good cops have to once again understand they will be held to high standards.

 

[MikeK]

I'll disagree. Foul language is uncalled for PERIOD. You're no better than that dude if you think it's acceptable on a person doing their job. See you seem to forget that dude has family, feelings and commands respect for his/ her duty. I'd arrest the entire fkn car full if someone used foul language at me. That is abuse. go look it up. A husband and a wife can't even legally do it. If a wife is abused by language and calls the cops, the dude will end up arrested. I have seen it with neighbors. So, no, you're wrong.

You would arrest the "entire fucking car" for using foul language?

Really?

Please tell us specifically what you would hand the DA in terms of charges.

Your mentality is exactly that of the trooper who arrested Sandra Bland. I'm sure you know the story, but it means nothing to you.

If you choose to be a cop, which means you will be pulling people over for perceived traffic offenses, what law are you aware of that requires these people to behave respectfully toward you?

If you choose to be a cop please be advised that this is not the old Soviet Union. It is America. Some citizens like cops. Some do not. And those who do not are under no legal obligation to pretend they do. And if more cops understood that and didn't go out of their way to circumvent that reality, there would not be the current undercurrent of dislike and resentment of police by the general public.

If you wish to enforce laws, including petty bullshit traffic and drug laws, please don't expect people to like you for it. If you are not comfortable with that, become a mailman instead.

 

[2aguy]

For Chicago cops on the street, more scrutiny brings lower morale, fewer stops

Minneapolis police making fewer stops for suspicious people, cars and traffic scofflaws

EXCLUSIVE: NYC stop-and-frisk plunges as crime climbs

The focus seems to be on a decrease in "stops" as being the crucial criterion for rising crime rates.
Ok, I guess the Constitution got in the way there. But, that aside, I don't necessarily see arbitrary "stops" as a big factor in crime prevention. That false connection doesn't help to explain why crime rate fluctuations have been generally coincided with downturns of the economy..not police harassment of people on the streets.

Fair point. And yes...economic downturns have always had increases in crime. But property crime is usually what that is. People stealing to get by.

But in nearly every city....a year long slow down sees an increase in violent crime.

Actually research shows that the economy doesn't create crime.....it is he values of the community.....crime during the depression was very low.....

 

[MikeK]

You're such an idiot. Damn near every post you say "Watch 'COPS' to see how evil they are". Give it a rest. If the stuff on COPS was all illegal....the show wouldn't exist because lawsuits would bankrupt every PD who agreed to allow them to ride along and no one would agree to the show.

I never said "watch COPS to see how evil they are." You did.

I never said "the stuff on COPS is all illegal." You did.

You picked up the habit of exaggerating and distorting facts from your experience as a cop and it hasn't left you. Like most cops you learned to serve your interests by lying and distorting. What it does is identify you as a low-life.

 

[HenryBHough]

So funny to watch liberals crying out laws to enforced!

 

[JQPublic1]

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This is a good thing. Now we get the cops that are too lazy to do their jobs and fire them. We then hire cops that can be professionals and do their jobs without being racists.

Too bad we cannot fire thoughtless BLM protesters who say the most abhorrent, hateful things about brave men and women who put their lives on the line every day for our safety and the safety of the community.

BLM isn't saying anything about the brave men and women who put their lives on the line every day for our safety and the safety of the community, they are saying hateful things about those cowards in blue who shoot unarmed Black men women and children for no apparent reason.

 

[Asclepias]

So funny to watch liberals crying out laws to enforced!

It was a whiny conservative that started the thread.

 

[MikeK]

A couple friends of mine who are in the military say some military members get disgusted by the civilian world they protect. Yep. I'm sure cops feel that way now too.

Were these friends of yours drafted? Or did they enlist because they couldn't find a job that pays as much and issues a bonus?

As for cops who are discontent with the job. What else are they qualified for? But if they really can't stand it there's always the Postal Service.

 

[HenryBHough]

It was a whiny conservative that started the thread.

And an excellent bit of baiting it was!

 

[turzovka]

BLM isn't saying anything about the brave men and women who put their lives on the line every day for our safety and the safety of the community, they are saying hateful things about those cowards in blue who shoot unarmed Black men women and children for no apparent reason.

 

[MaryL]

Next time you hear something breaking into your house, call a "black lives matter" activist and see how far that will get you.

 

[Asclepias]

It was a whiny conservative that started the thread.

And an excellent bit of baiting it was!

Are you calling Buc a troll? I dont think its a troll thread. I just think he likes to whine.

 

[HenryBHough]

Any officer trying to enforce the law in this climate of persecution is insufficiently sane to be allowed to walk unescorted (that's without his/her Mommy, liberals) let alone handle any sort of weapon.

 

[MikeK]

Next time you hear something breaking into your house, call a "black lives matter" activist and see how far that will get you.

Next time you hear something breaking into your house, go to the cabinet or closet, get your gun -- and wait for whatever it is to get in and say "hello."