Could It Be That Many Conservatives Are Getting As Bad As Liberals?

[eagle1462010]

The Right continually wishes and wants to unite and work together.

Huh? Where? Who? Since when?

All I see are Republicans who dare to open the door a bit shunned and attacked and called RINOs.

Can you provide some examples?
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Seriously? Many on the Right continually stress the need for government to quit bickering and to work together. I hardly ever see any democrat say we need to come together except some unknown face. Even Trump started out trying to and wanting to work with the Left. So did McCain. His downfall is that he kissed their asses while never getting anything in return. That and later actually starting to attack and work against his own party. Our government and people have stopped seeing themselves simply as Americans. It is like we are two different countries. Problem is that conservatives have remained essentially unchanged since the day of JFK. JFK wouldn't know the DNC today.

JFK would be called a Deplorable today..............That is how far gone the are today.............When they don't get their way they riot........shut down streets.........attack people in restaurants...........and then say it's RIGHTEOUS............

How the hell can we be civil when they do what they do...........Yet we are the problem..........

How about MAC provide the examples of the violent T Party denying others the right to assemble..........In this regards there is absolutely NO COMPARISON.

The left is now INSANE.

 

[eagle1462010]

There is no retreat.........no surrender at this point..........That's just the way it is now.

Well, here's a symptom of the problem.

Some on both ends have been convinced to believe that this is essentially war. It isn't, of course. It's more about ego and tribalism.

I have to disagree. Eagle has a POINT. It IS a war. It was started a long time ago by the Left. They have gone full out bonkers attacking evertythimng from GW Bush, to Trump, Guns, Christianity, American and Family Values, worst of all, they usually don't even use valid, legitimate points in their defense, they MAKE STUFF UP, blatantly LIE, in order to support their position. Outright unreasonable. The character assassination of Trump has been beyond the pale. They boycotted yesterdays 4th celebration; had that been Obama, it would have been on every channel.

SO LET'S BE REAL:

• The war on the Left has been an offensive one.
• The war on the Right has mainly been a DEFENSIVE one.

The Left is trying to overcome and eliminate. The Right is merely trying to survive.

I used to think that we might be able to advance to a place at which people could rise above this madness.

I've changed my mind on that.

I think there will be people who have the capacity to move us forward as a country, and those who can't just won't be a part of the conversation. They'll just have to be marginalized.
.

Marginalized..............Please explain that one........DAD



I'm probably old enough to be yours............LOL

The left ceases fire are this continues..........that is the issue........PERIOD.

Some people will part of the conversation that leads to improvements, some will be left to scream in irrelevant, impotent rage.
.

In this environment we have today............Dream on............You always lean left you know............You have admitted that in the past.........so you always say you are the NEGOTIATOR for this.............But ALWAYS COME AFTER THE CONSERVATIVES..........

When the leftist Lunatics knock their shit off we can talk........until then...........To HELL WITH THEM.........

We are tired of their crap and you know it.

 

[Mac1958]

Well, here's a symptom of the problem.

Some on both ends have been convinced to believe that this is essentially war. It isn't, of course. It's more about ego and tribalism.

I have to disagree. Eagle has a POINT. It IS a war. It was started a long time ago by the Left. They have gone full out bonkers attacking evertythimng from GW Bush, to Trump, Guns, Christianity, American and Family Values, worst of all, they usually don't even use valid, legitimate points in their defense, they MAKE STUFF UP, blatantly LIE, in order to support their position. Outright unreasonable. The character assassination of Trump has been beyond the pale. They boycotted yesterdays 4th celebration; had that been Obama, it would have been on every channel.

SO LET'S BE REAL:

• The war on the Left has been an offensive one.
• The war on the Right has mainly been a DEFENSIVE one.

The Left is trying to overcome and eliminate. The Right is merely trying to survive.

I used to think that we might be able to advance to a place at which people could rise above this madness.

I've changed my mind on that.

I think there will be people who have the capacity to move us forward as a country, and those who can't just won't be a part of the conversation. They'll just have to be marginalized.
.

Marginalized..............Please explain that one........DAD



I'm probably old enough to be yours............LOL

The left ceases fire are this continues..........that is the issue........PERIOD.

Some people will part of the conversation that leads to improvements, some will be left to scream in irrelevant, impotent rage.
.

In this environment we have today............Dream on............You always lean left you know............You have admitted that in the past.........so you always say you are the NEGOTIATOR for this.............But ALWAYS COME AFTER THE CONSERVATIVES..........

When the leftist Lunatics knock their shit off we can talk........until then...........To HELL WITH THEM.........

We are tired of their crap and you know it.

The thread is about the behaviors of both sides.

The two sides share several behaviors, which I have already listed.

I can see both sides of this. You can't. Not my problem.
.

 

[Toro]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

The problem isn’t left or right. The problem is ideology.

 

[eagle1462010]

I have to disagree. Eagle has a POINT. It IS a war. It was started a long time ago by the Left. They have gone full out bonkers attacking evertythimng from GW Bush, to Trump, Guns, Christianity, American and Family Values, worst of all, they usually don't even use valid, legitimate points in their defense, they MAKE STUFF UP, blatantly LIE, in order to support their position. Outright unreasonable. The character assassination of Trump has been beyond the pale. They boycotted yesterdays 4th celebration; had that been Obama, it would have been on every channel.

SO LET'S BE REAL:

• The war on the Left has been an offensive one.
• The war on the Right has mainly been a DEFENSIVE one.

The Left is trying to overcome and eliminate. The Right is merely trying to survive.

I used to think that we might be able to advance to a place at which people could rise above this madness.

I've changed my mind on that.

I think there will be people who have the capacity to move us forward as a country, and those who can't just won't be a part of the conversation. They'll just have to be marginalized.
.

Marginalized..............Please explain that one........DAD



I'm probably old enough to be yours............LOL

The left ceases fire are this continues..........that is the issue........PERIOD.

Some people will part of the conversation that leads to improvements, some will be left to scream in irrelevant, impotent rage.
.

In this environment we have today............Dream on............You always lean left you know............You have admitted that in the past.........so you always say you are the NEGOTIATOR for this.............But ALWAYS COME AFTER THE CONSERVATIVES..........

When the leftist Lunatics knock their shit off we can talk........until then...........To HELL WITH THEM.........

We are tired of their crap and you know it.

The thread is about the behaviors of both sides.

The two sides share several behaviors, which I have already listed.

I can see both sides of this. You can't. Not my problem.
.

You always play moderator..............and always lean left..............You always push more against Conservatives when the leftist actions in this country are proven violent time and time again............The Lying.........The Character Assassination.........Intimidation outside Reps homes........attacking them for a MAGA hat...........Threatening them in a movie theatre with their kids........Breaking into assemblees and forcing the meeting to close jumping up and down on tables..........................and on and on and on............

To say we compare to them is Ridiculous.............just as you claim moderation on this issue...........You are a FRAUD.

 

[miketx]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

I have been banned from more con forums than lib forums. One for saying it was mexican day at walmart. Another for making a three stooges reference to another poster by saying ok porcupine, and was banned for calling them a prick. lol.

Also recently banned at twitter for telling Kamala Harris "come get my guns c***" in a tweet.

 

[eagle1462010]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

I have been banned from more con forums than lib forums. One for saying it was mexican day at walmart. Another for making a three stooges reference to another poster by saying ok porcupine, and was banned for calling them a prick. lol.

Also recently banned at twitter for telling Kamala Harris "come get my guns c***" in a tweet.

In a Free Society the right to OFFEND IS UNABRIDGED.......

LOL

 

[Toro]

In fact, it’s not ideology. It’s human nature. Humans are tribal. They’ll assume and ascribe the worst behaviors to the other tribe, and will forgive and rationalize the behavior of their own tribe.

 

[miketx]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

So people who can’t tell a male from a female...aren’t crazy and worthy of being identified as such?

I bet there's a female in their somewhere.

 

[Mac1958]

I used to think that we might be able to advance to a place at which people could rise above this madness.

I've changed my mind on that.

I think there will be people who have the capacity to move us forward as a country, and those who can't just won't be a part of the conversation. They'll just have to be marginalized.
.

Marginalized..............Please explain that one........DAD



I'm probably old enough to be yours............LOL

The left ceases fire are this continues..........that is the issue........PERIOD.

Some people will part of the conversation that leads to improvements, some will be left to scream in irrelevant, impotent rage.
.

In this environment we have today............Dream on............You always lean left you know............You have admitted that in the past.........so you always say you are the NEGOTIATOR for this.............But ALWAYS COME AFTER THE CONSERVATIVES..........

When the leftist Lunatics knock their shit off we can talk........until then...........To HELL WITH THEM.........

We are tired of their crap and you know it.

The thread is about the behaviors of both sides.

The two sides share several behaviors, which I have already listed.

I can see both sides of this. You can't. Not my problem.
.

You always play moderator..............and always lean left..............You always push more against Conservatives when the leftist actions in this country are proven violent time and time again............The Lying.........The Character Assassination.........Intimidation outside Reps homes........attacking them for a MAGA hat...........Threatening them in a movie theatre with their kids........Breaking into assemblees and forcing the meeting to close jumping up and down on tables..........................and on and on and on............

To say we compare to them is Ridiculous.............just as you claim moderation on this issue...........You are a FRAUD.

Yes, I lean left, as I clearly point out in the link at the end of the second line of my sig, during which I still disembowel a Regressive Leftist: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Yet, unlike you, I happily take incoming from both ends of the spectrum every day here.

Unlike you, I don't have a soft, comfy, ideological Safe Space to hide in and fling poo.

Unlike you, I don't need one.

You don't like my points, so you bitch about me personally. Go ahead and bitch.
.

 

[miketx]

Marginalized..............Please explain that one........DAD



I'm probably old enough to be yours............LOL

The left ceases fire are this continues..........that is the issue........PERIOD.

Some people will part of the conversation that leads to improvements, some will be left to scream in irrelevant, impotent rage.
.

In this environment we have today............Dream on............You always lean left you know............You have admitted that in the past.........so you always say you are the NEGOTIATOR for this.............But ALWAYS COME AFTER THE CONSERVATIVES..........

When the leftist Lunatics knock their shit off we can talk........until then...........To HELL WITH THEM.........

We are tired of their crap and you know it.

The thread is about the behaviors of both sides.

The two sides share several behaviors, which I have already listed.

I can see both sides of this. You can't. Not my problem.
.

You always play moderator..............and always lean left..............You always push more against Conservatives when the leftist actions in this country are proven violent time and time again............The Lying.........The Character Assassination.........Intimidation outside Reps homes........attacking them for a MAGA hat...........Threatening them in a movie theatre with their kids........Breaking into assemblees and forcing the meeting to close jumping up and down on tables..........................and on and on and on............

To say we compare to them is Ridiculous.............just as you claim moderation on this issue...........You are a FRAUD.

Yes, I lean left, as I clearly point out in the link at the end of the second line of my sig, during which I still disembowel a Regressive Leftist: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Yet, unlike you, I happily take incoming from both ends of the spectrum every day here.

Unlike you, I don't have a soft, comfy, ideological Safe Space to hide in and fling poo.

Unlike you, I don't need one.

You don't like my points, so you bitch about me personally. Go ahead and bitch.
.

Looks like a lib
Insults like a lib
quack quack

 

[toobfreak]

Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country...

They're either socialists/communists or anarchists...There's a great difference between the two.

...but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

Neocons are leftists by definition.

No, I've run into a few people here that had valid views on many conservative issues then proved to be absolute LOONS, others that BRAGGED about what great "conservatives" they were then showed they were flaming buttholes. Worst of all, often simply over differences of viewpoint or opinion.

It made me realize its NO WONDER why many on the Left think so poorly of the Right.

Then, as I have pointed out for a couple decades now, the word "conservative" is totally meaningless.

Not at all. How can it be? If it is, then so is liberal (and it isn't).

To be "conservative" , IMO, you:

1. Uphold traditional values.
2. Believe that the Constitution as written is the absolute and final arbiter of things.
3. Are hopefully, intelligent, educated, thoughtful, fair and open minded.

Liberals/Leftists are forever bucking traditional values wanting "Progressivism."
Are forever trying to throw out, change or ignore the Constitution as a "Living Document."
While often seemingly educated and erudite, the Left often seem that common sense, fairness and open-mindedness and tolerance elude them.

MY PROBLEM HERE is that some on the Right as JUST AS BAD in that regard. So it isn't conservatism that is at fault here, it is the way some today display or use it.

In any case, "conservatives" still embrace the existence of a paternalistic State

I don't. And few that I know do.

 

[toobfreak]

Fact: You asserted conservatives concede when shown wrong.

Not a fact. I never even said that.

If you think conservatives never concede, prove that! And prove that liberals do!

Nope?

The difference is that when proven wrong, a good conservative will change his views and conceded your point.

Since I've never asserted that liberals concede when shown wrong, I am under no obligation to prove it. Since I never said that conservatives never concede, I am under no obligation to prove that either - setting aside the difficulty proving a negative.

You certainly implied it. Because what is the point of arguing that conservatives concede a POV when proven wrong if liberals never do either?

 

[toobfreak]

The Right continually wishes and wants to unite and work together.

Huh? Where? Who? Since when?

All I see are Republicans who dare to open the door a bit shunned and attacked and called RINOs.

Can you provide some examples?
.

Seriously? Many on the Right continually stress the need for government to quit bickering and to work together. I hardly ever see any democrat say we need to come together except some unknown face. Even Trump started out trying to and wanting to work with the Left. So did McCain. His downfall is that he kissed their asses while never getting anything in return. That and later actually starting to attack and work against his own party. Our government and people have stopped seeing themselves simply as Americans. It is like we are two different countries. Problem is that conservatives have remained essentially unchanged since the day of JFK. JFK wouldn't know the DNC today.

McCain?

McCain was viciously attacked for being a RINO, even during his final days and after his death.

Why? Because he dared to go against Trump orthodoxy.

So did Ryan, so did others, and they were vilified.

Show me Trumpsters here who want the two sides to work together.
.

How about me? To that list I'd probably add off the top of my head that I can immediately think of maybe K9 Buck and SAYIT? Go ask them for starters.

 

[toobfreak]

We should always treat adults as adults.

Look, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I know, it's the other tribe's fault. Everything is. They deserve whatever they get. I get it, I get it.

Asymmetrical conversations are a waste of time.
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The "adults" you're talking about will never act as such.....It's far past the time where they need to be treated as the spoiled little brat children, who have never been tolled no, like they are.

Mollifying and appeasing them is a proven failure...You want to engage in proven failure, in order that you can pat yourself on the back for being an "adult".

Sadly, not only are you probably 100% right, but the case can be made that trying to mollify the Left works about as well as trying to appease Iran. Amazing the similarities between how the Left these days and terrorists work! They certainly use different METHODS but they often achieve the exact same results. And that is at the heart of the problem. Unfortunately, I can't exactly hand the GOP a sterling sheet of shining honor, either! One of the biggest issues with the GOP is their constantly broken stature where they can never even get together and all agree on ANYTHING. You always know which ones will be the problems, and unfortunately John McCain was one of that category.

POINT: Government is broken. The entire thing no longer works. It isn't working for or representing the people anymore, and the entire fed has strayed totally out of the ballpark on the matter of strict constitutionality. At least 80% of the Fed needs thrown away and disbanded and those bums need to go out and find real jobs. No more lifetime appointments-- -- -- NO ONE serves more than TWO TERMS other than supreme court justices. Politicians need held to at least as high or higher legal standards as us for lies, broken promises and ESPECIALLY tax evasion and other crimes. Time for this country to flush the entire mess down the pipe and hit the RESET button. Back to what the Founders intended.

 

[fncceo]

Look troll, no one beat me in any thread.

 

[toobfreak]

The Right continually wishes and wants to unite and work together.

Huh? Where? Who? Since when?

All I see are Republicans who dare to open the door a bit shunned and attacked and called RINOs.

Can you provide some examples?
.

Seriously? Many on the Right continually stress the need for government to quit bickering and to work together. I hardly ever see any democrat say we need to come together except some unknown face. Even Trump started out trying to and wanting to work with the Left. So did McCain. His downfall is that he kissed their asses while never getting anything in return. That and later actually starting to attack and work against his own party. Our government and people have stopped seeing themselves simply as Americans. It is like we are two different countries. Problem is that conservatives have remained essentially unchanged since the day of JFK. JFK wouldn't know the DNC today.

JFK would be called a Deplorable today..............That is how far gone the are today.............When they don't get their way they riot........shut down streets.........attack people in restaurants...........and then say it's RIGHTEOUS............

How the hell can we be civil when they do what they do...........Yet we are the problem..........

How about MAC provide the examples of the violent T Party denying others the right to assemble..........In this regards there is absolutely NO COMPARISON.

The left is now INSANE.

And isn't that really at the heart of the problem here? How do you get along with or make peace with someone if they are not at least willing and interesting in doing as much?

 

[toobfreak]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

The problem isn’t left or right. The problem is ideology.

So its Left and Rightwing ideology. Used to be that the two parties were not that different, the GOP was more about jobs and business and national defense and the DNC was more about social programs and civil rights and helping the needy. In other words: the two necessary sides of the complete coin. WE needed a little or some of ALL of that.

But then the two parties drifted FAR apart. I'm probably not the best person to judge the GOP other than to say they've gone more towards corporate welfare and interests of the rich but the DNC has gone off the chart with radical, anti-American, anarchistic socialism. Look at the number here who rant we need to be more like Europe! I thought we were the ALTERNATIVE to them.

 

[Olde Europe]

Sadly, not only are you probably 100% right, but the case can be made that trying to mollify the Left works about as well as trying to appease Iran. Amazing the similarities between how the Left these days and terrorists work! They certainly use different METHODS but they often achieve the exact same results. And that is at the heart of the problem. Unfortunately, I can't exactly hand the GOP a sterling sheet of shining honor, either! One of the biggest issues with the GOP is their constantly broken stature where they can never even get together and all agree on ANYTHING. You always know which ones will be the problems, and unfortunately John McCain was one of that category.

POINT: Government is broken. The entire thing no longer works. It isn't working for or representing the people anymore, and the entire fed has strayed totally out of the ballpark on the matter of strict constitutionality. At least 80% of the Fed needs thrown away and disbanded and those bums need to go out and find real jobs. No more lifetime appointments-- -- -- NO ONE serves more than TWO TERMS other than supreme court justices. Politicians need held to at least as high or higher legal standards as us for lies, broken promises and ESPECIALLY tax evasion and other crimes. Time for this country to flush the entire mess down the pipe and hit the RESET button. Back to what the Founders intended.

Did you read the word salad above? Check any aspect thereof as to whether or not you can actually prove it? At least, have some evidence?

Appeasing Iran hasn't happened since they kicked out the tyrant the U.S. imposed on them. What methods ("METHODS"!!!), what results? You wouldn't say, and don't have a clue, for you're merely running your mouth.

The only problem with the GOP is McCain, who is reportedly dead. Then you blab about "strict constitutionality" as if you knew what that expression meant. But you do know that flushing down the drain 80% of the Fed would do some good - when, in reality, the U.S. would immediately collapse.

But hey, it was a nice fantasy. Bonkers, but nice. Hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.

 

[Mac1958]

Some people will part of the conversation that leads to improvements, some will be left to scream in irrelevant, impotent rage.
.

In this environment we have today............Dream on............You always lean left you know............You have admitted that in the past.........so you always say you are the NEGOTIATOR for this.............But ALWAYS COME AFTER THE CONSERVATIVES..........

When the leftist Lunatics knock their shit off we can talk........until then...........To HELL WITH THEM.........

We are tired of their crap and you know it.

The thread is about the behaviors of both sides.

The two sides share several behaviors, which I have already listed.

I can see both sides of this. You can't. Not my problem.
.

You always play moderator..............and always lean left..............You always push more against Conservatives when the leftist actions in this country are proven violent time and time again............The Lying.........The Character Assassination.........Intimidation outside Reps homes........attacking them for a MAGA hat...........Threatening them in a movie theatre with their kids........Breaking into assemblees and forcing the meeting to close jumping up and down on tables..........................and on and on and on............

To say we compare to them is Ridiculous.............just as you claim moderation on this issue...........You are a FRAUD.

Yes, I lean left, as I clearly point out in the link at the end of the second line of my sig, during which I still disembowel a Regressive Leftist: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Yet, unlike you, I happily take incoming from both ends of the spectrum every day here.

Unlike you, I don't have a soft, comfy, ideological Safe Space to hide in and fling poo.

Unlike you, I don't need one.

You don't like my points, so you bitch about me personally. Go ahead and bitch.
.

Looks like a lib
Insults like a lib
quack quack

Another example.

Trump-level discourse.
.