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Ummm i DO. We shouldnt be spending that much on the war machine. Not near that much.No, but you throw your tantrum over a family with a super sick little girl who is going bust with the medical bills because they've got an updated kitchen. When do I hear you bitching and screaming about the defense budget? Never. Because they don't have granite countertops, I guess.We shouldnt do that either!If "taxpayers" are "forced" to pay for 'defense' of foreign countries, paying for a domestic society, where healthcare that exists is available to the parts of society that need it, doesn't seem the least bit far-fetched.
What if he got dishonorably discharged?This guy served his country. He has a job. He has private insurance. He has provided his family with a home. What more do you expect from him?I have already paid in 300 bucks to it this year.You have been paying those taxes all your working life and so has everyone else. Less than $100 per year of a $50,000 income goes to Medicaid. What is this "gun" you're talking about? In order to have a decent, semi-healthy society without dying people living in cardboard boxes on the street like they do in India, we chip in a LITTLE bit.Im the selfish one? When these assholes arent willing to give up their standard of life for their handicap daughter?It's a very selfish stand you've taken there, TN.It isnt necessary. Im not the most intelligent or responsible. Im just not lazy and selfish, and dont expect handouts.
They arent willing to accept voluntary donations but are willing to FORCE ME AT GUNPOINT?
And I AM THE SELFISH ONE? Fuck that shit.
The "gun" was a metaphor for force. If i dont pay, my shit gets taken.
We chip in to subsidize people who dont do shit for their own selves.
No thanks.
General welfare is the welfare of the Nation. NOT an individual.Nothing is free, and living in America gives one such advantages that one should be glad to participate. The general welfare is the welfare of the nation. America is not great if unnecessary suffering continues there.
I doubt if a family of four living in Texas that grosses $40,000 a year would be considered rich by anyone but you. Especially when they've only got $25,000 gross after paying all their copays. And we don't get the "gross" amount, do we? The govt. gets on average 25% of that, so they're living on $18,500. I'll bet that house is about to go into foreclosure.Ummm i DO. We shouldnt be spending that much on the war machine. Not near that much.No, but you throw your tantrum over a family with a super sick little girl who is going bust with the medical bills because they've got an updated kitchen. When do I hear you bitching and screaming about the defense budget? Never. Because they don't have granite countertops, I guess.We shouldnt do that either!If "taxpayers" are "forced" to pay for 'defense' of foreign countries, paying for a domestic society, where healthcare that exists is available to the parts of society that need it, doesn't seem the least bit far-fetched.
Try again.
Yes, the updated kitchen. They have a nice kitchen. Its nicer than mine. YET, they want ME to pay their shit?
And this doesnt seem bad to you? Do you also support us subsidizing the rich? Good lawd.
We are nothing BUT a collection of individuals. If the individuals are not doing well, you will know about it. Trust me.General welfare is the welfare of the Nation. NOT an individual.Nothing is free, and living in America gives one such advantages that one should be glad to participate. The general welfare is the welfare of the nation. America is not great if unnecessary suffering continues there.
WHY do you think he got dishonorably discharged? Because he's got granite countertops, that's why.What if he got dishonorably discharged?This guy served his country. He has a job. He has private insurance. He has provided his family with a home. What more do you expect from him?I have already paid in 300 bucks to it this year.You have been paying those taxes all your working life and so has everyone else. Less than $100 per year of a $50,000 income goes to Medicaid. What is this "gun" you're talking about? In order to have a decent, semi-healthy society without dying people living in cardboard boxes on the street like they do in India, we chip in a LITTLE bit.Im the selfish one? When these assholes arent willing to give up their standard of life for their handicap daughter?It's a very selfish stand you've taken there, TN.
They arent willing to accept voluntary donations but are willing to FORCE ME AT GUNPOINT?
And I AM THE SELFISH ONE? Fuck that shit.
The "gun" was a metaphor for force. If i dont pay, my shit gets taken.
We chip in to subsidize people who dont do shit for their own selves.
No thanks.
A home they CANT AFFORD
BTW penelope, i have insurance. I also have prepared for bad things to happen
Me and my family will be fine. I know that upsets you :/
Should have sold when they had the chance. Its called being responsible.I doubt if a family of four living in Texas that grosses $40,000 a year would be considered rich by anyone but you. Especially when they've only got $25,000 gross after paying all their copays. And we don't get the "gross" amount, do we? The govt. gets on average 25% of that, so they're living on $18,500. I'll bet that house is about to go into foreclosure.Ummm i DO. We shouldnt be spending that much on the war machine. Not near that much.No, but you throw your tantrum over a family with a super sick little girl who is going bust with the medical bills because they've got an updated kitchen. When do I hear you bitching and screaming about the defense budget? Never. Because they don't have granite countertops, I guess.We shouldnt do that either!If "taxpayers" are "forced" to pay for 'defense' of foreign countries, paying for a domestic society, where healthcare that exists is available to the parts of society that need it, doesn't seem the least bit far-fetched.
Try again.
Yes, the updated kitchen. They have a nice kitchen. Its nicer than mine. YET, they want ME to pay their shit?
And this doesnt seem bad to you? Do you also support us subsidizing the rich? Good lawd.
Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.
And? That has nothing to do with what general welfare means.We are nothing BUT a collection of individuals. If the individuals are not doing well, you will know about it. Trust me.General welfare is the welfare of the Nation. NOT an individual.Nothing is free, and living in America gives one such advantages that one should be glad to participate. The general welfare is the welfare of the nation. America is not great if unnecessary suffering continues there.
Either hope they have a job or do like my buddies dad did and die from cancer.Not have kids when you are broke, perhaps?What are they suppose to do???
How about the person who gets dx with MS or Stage IV cancer? What is your suggestion for them??
He had integrity. He didnt beg to be subsidized by force.
I hope you lose everything and get diagnosed with MS, and have a long decline and find yourself living in the streets without clean clothes and just a wheelchair. Someone as ignorant as you deserves all the best of the worst.
And the nasty bitch spouts her venom again, Why doesn't he get a part time job making some extra cash.
Medicaid divorces are fairly common, usually it is the elderly that get them to protect assets for the spouse in better health.
Publicizing it for the sympathy is what this bullshit family is about.
I said "what if"WHY do you think he got dishonorably discharged? Because he's got granite countertops, that's why.What if he got dishonorably discharged?This guy served his country. He has a job. He has private insurance. He has provided his family with a home. What more do you expect from him?I have already paid in 300 bucks to it this year.You have been paying those taxes all your working life and so has everyone else. Less than $100 per year of a $50,000 income goes to Medicaid. What is this "gun" you're talking about? In order to have a decent, semi-healthy society without dying people living in cardboard boxes on the street like they do in India, we chip in a LITTLE bit.Im the selfish one? When these assholes arent willing to give up their standard of life for their handicap daughter?
They arent willing to accept voluntary donations but are willing to FORCE ME AT GUNPOINT?
And I AM THE SELFISH ONE? Fuck that shit.
The "gun" was a metaphor for force. If i dont pay, my shit gets taken.
We chip in to subsidize people who dont do shit for their own selves.
No thanks.
A home they CANT AFFORD
These people dont even seem to want to help themselves. They are even refusing certain forms of help.Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.
I don't see it as gaming.
There should be allowances for this type of situation.
That is what is so fucked up about Obamacare and all the jerks who say "Everyone is so happy with their insurance".
Bullshit.
I was thinking about that, too. If my first child was a vegetable, basically, never to improve and I knew three years in just how pricey that child would be to care for, forever, would I choose to have another child? They did. I can see wanting a normal, healthy child. I can also see being responsible, like TN says, and just caring for their one very damaged child.genetic counseling works wonders.....i am with tn ....why continue to have children if you know something is going to be wrong with them? i have one child..why...cause i wanted that child to have the most benefits....we focused on one child...instead of 3 or 4 ...why should i pay for others who opt to have more than they can afford?
The Cost of Raising a Child Jumps to $233,610I was thinking about that, too. If my first child was a vegetable, basically, never to improve and I knew three years in just how pricey that child would be to care for, forever, would I choose to have another child? They did. I can see wanting a normal, healthy child. I can also see being responsible, like TN says, and just caring for their one very damaged child.genetic counseling works wonders.....i am with tn ....why continue to have children if you know something is going to be wrong with them? i have one child..why...cause i wanted that child to have the most benefits....we focused on one child...instead of 3 or 4 ...why should i pay for others who opt to have more than they can afford?
It would be a hard decision. Who does not want a healthy, normal child to raise?
I'm not sure it would make THAT much difference in their situation now, though.
They have private insurance, though. You can't blame Obamacare for this one.Seems like bullshit to me. Gaming the system, if you will.I have helped dozens of people through a divorce so that a sick spouse or child could qualify for benefits. You do whatever you have to do.
At least using a go fund me would have been voluntary and not forced upon people.
I don't see it as gaming.
There should be allowances for this type of situation.
That is what is so fucked up about Obamacare and all the jerks who say "Everyone is so happy with their insurance".
Bullshit.
