Covid Shots

If you're vaccinated why do you or anyone care if cases exist?
BECAUSE the half of Americans that aren't vaccinated are going to keep spreading it among themselves and fuck it up for the rest of us.
Well ---- how would that "fuck it up" as you say so elegantly, and why would you care if we spread it among ourselves if YOU are protected? I'd think you'd be glad, and hope we all die. Probably you do. So, you know, win--win.

My guess is that you all who are so eager to force vaccination on us 1) want more and more and more government control, or 2) don't actually believe your vaccines work. You look at all these re-infections and deaths from clotting and so on, and Fauci talking about booster shots and mutations and I bet you don't believe the vaccine works, so you want everyone to have to get vaccinated --- though why that should help you if you don't believe in the vaccine, I don't know.

I have long thought people who want to force vaccinate for relatively non-lethal diseases make no sense. Just get your own vaccination and shut up!
That's pretty ugly.
I don't wish any of you idiots dead.
I do believe in the vaccine or I wouldn't have gotten it!
I do not dream of more government control. I dream of people not being so shortsighted and selfish. Be Volunteers to America instead! Like Azog, who uses his immunity for good instead of sitting in a hate filled corner and making up what you think others believe.
 
those who have natural immunity because they had it before and have the antibodies?
That’s a GREAT question and one that I’ve wondered about myself, we’ve recently allowed fully vaccinated individuals to stop wearing masks while at work (if they choose) but still require those that have had COVID (no matter how recently) to continue wearing them, which doesn’t make sense to me (other than perhaps the CDC guidelines don’t specifically address those people).
I suppose it's a thin entering wedge into vaccine passports, which still may be required widely. It's up in the air today, but maybe not next week, with a lot of workplaces and all airlines requiring them. The thing is, you can prove vaccination with just a little card, more or less ------- but nobody can prove having survived a COVID infection, at least it would be a clunky, difficult process involving tests and doctors.

So while surviving COVID, like all disease immunities, is far better for immunity than any vaccine, since people can't prove to authorities that they've had it, they want to require the shot. It's all part of the new authoritarianism.

Good discussion! It's clarifying things for me.
Can't they be tested for antibodies and get a card from their doctor's office? If not, why not??
Idk….but I get it through the app.

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So I reiterate. Why do I need the vaccine?
I never said you did. But you know why they're saying you should.
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?
 
If you're vaccinated why do you or anyone care if cases exist?
BECAUSE the half of Americans that aren't vaccinated are going to keep spreading it among themselves and fuck it up for the rest of us.

No, they're not. Most of them already have antibodies. It's important to watch the vaccinated though since they are the experiment. What are they going to mess up? Even if they don't have antibodies, you already have the injection so you're protected.....................right? This argument is so asinine that it doesn't even warrant consideration.
It's not just about ME ME ME.

That's right. It's not. I dont care if anyone gets an injection or not. As long as this experimental injection isn't forced upon anyone, we're all good.
 
Another reason why the CDC should be ignored.


50% immune because they've already had COVID! I didn't realize it was that high, but I'm not surprised. This thing just rips through the population --- the masks didn't slow it down and sure didn't stop it.

Okay, taking that Hopkins guy's guess of 50% naturally immune, plus 50% also took the vaccine (totally unnecessarily, just courting the side effects, and for no reason except public pressure), we should be 100% immune, right? No, because there is a lot of overlap ---- people getting vaccinated even though they had COVID, knowingly or not. So, what, 70--80% more or less immune? Huh, maybe there won't be another surge --- that's a pretty good rate for population immunity.
 
those who have natural immunity because they had it before and have the antibodies?
That’s a GREAT question and one that I’ve wondered about myself, we’ve recently allowed fully vaccinated individuals to stop wearing masks while at work (if they choose) but still require those that have had COVID (no matter how recently) to continue wearing them, which doesn’t make sense to me (other than perhaps the CDC guidelines don’t specifically address those people).
I suppose it's a thin entering wedge into vaccine passports, which still may be required widely. It's up in the air today, but maybe not next week, with a lot of workplaces and all airlines requiring them. The thing is, you can prove vaccination with just a little card, more or less ------- but nobody can prove having survived a COVID infection, at least it would be a clunky, difficult process involving tests and doctors.

So while surviving COVID, like all disease immunities, is far better for immunity than any vaccine, since people can't prove to authorities that they've had it, they want to require the shot. It's all part of the new authoritarianism.

Good discussion! It's clarifying things for me.
Can't they be tested for antibodies and get a card from their doctor's office? If not, why not??
Idk….but I get it through the app.

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Positive since March 2020
Cool!
So I reiterate. Why do I need the vaccine?
I never said you did. But you know why they're saying you should.
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?

those who have natural immunity because they had it before and have the antibodies?
That’s a GREAT question and one that I’ve wondered about myself, we’ve recently allowed fully vaccinated individuals to stop wearing masks while at work (if they choose) but still require those that have had COVID (no matter how recently) to continue wearing them, which doesn’t make sense to me (other than perhaps the CDC guidelines don’t specifically address those people).
I suppose it's a thin entering wedge into vaccine passports, which still may be required widely. It's up in the air today, but maybe not next week, with a lot of workplaces and all airlines requiring them. The thing is, you can prove vaccination with just a little card, more or less ------- but nobody can prove having survived a COVID infection, at least it would be a clunky, difficult process involving tests and doctors.

So while surviving COVID, like all disease immunities, is far better for immunity than any vaccine, since people can't prove to authorities that they've had it, they want to require the shot. It's all part of the new authoritarianism.

Good discussion! It's clarifying things for me.
Can't they be tested for antibodies and get a card from their doctor's office? If not, why not??
Idk….but I get it through the app.

View attachment 494071
Positive since March 2020
Cool!
So I reiterate. Why do I need the vaccine?
I never said you did. But you know why they're saying you should.
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?
Nope. Try Again.
 
Another reason why the CDC should be ignored.


50% immune because they've already had COVID! I didn't realize it was that high, but I'm not surprised. This thing just rips through the population --- the masks didn't slow it down and sure didn't stop it.

Okay, taking that Hopkins guy's guess of 50% naturally immune, plus 50% also took the vaccine (totally unnecessarily, just courting the side effects, and for no reason except public pressure), we should be 100% immune, right? No, because there is a lot of overlap ---- people getting vaccinated even though they had COVID, knowingly or not. So, what, 70--80% more or less immune? Huh, maybe there won't be another surge --- that's a pretty good rate for population immunity.

I think the only thing now is to see what happens to the experiment,(vaccinated). Hopefully, nothing.
 
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?
Well, sure, a lot of people are making a lot of money off COVID, no question about that. Think about all those testers and testing sites! And all that does (in India, not here yet) is spread that black fungus disease, which is spread by all those invasive nose swabs. And what good did ANY of that testing do? None whatsoever.
 
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Another reason why the CDC should be ignored.


50% immune because they've already had COVID! I didn't realize it was that high, but I'm not surprised. This thing just rips through the population --- the masks didn't slow it down and sure didn't stop it.

Okay, taking that Hopkins guy's guess of 50% naturally immune, plus 50% also took the vaccine (totally unnecessarily, just courting the side effects, and for no reason except public pressure), we should be 100% immune, right? No, because there is a lot of overlap ---- people getting vaccinated even though they had COVID, knowingly or not. So, what, 70--80% more or less immune? Huh, maybe there won't be another surge --- that's a pretty good rate for population immunity.

I think the only thing now is to see what happens to the experiment,(vaccinated). Hopefully, nothing.
If you are saying that we can't know what effect the shots have for a few years, sure ----- after all, it's days or weeks later that these blood clotting strokes and death are happening. So ------- is everyone else just a LITTLE brain-damaged? Or will the incidence of unexpected strokes be way up for 2021 and 2022? It takes a long time for the bad effects of bad drugs to show up, usually --- the ones taken off the market, like Thalidomide. And the many, many others. That's why you see all those lawyer ads on TV asking you to call them if you ever took X drug.
 
those who have natural immunity because they had it before and have the antibodies?
That’s a GREAT question and one that I’ve wondered about myself, we’ve recently allowed fully vaccinated individuals to stop wearing masks while at work (if they choose) but still require those that have had COVID (no matter how recently) to continue wearing them, which doesn’t make sense to me (other than perhaps the CDC guidelines don’t specifically address those people).
I suppose it's a thin entering wedge into vaccine passports, which still may be required widely. It's up in the air today, but maybe not next week, with a lot of workplaces and all airlines requiring them. The thing is, you can prove vaccination with just a little card, more or less ------- but nobody can prove having survived a COVID infection, at least it would be a clunky, difficult process involving tests and doctors.

So while surviving COVID, like all disease immunities, is far better for immunity than any vaccine, since people can't prove to authorities that they've had it, they want to require the shot. It's all part of the new authoritarianism.

Good discussion! It's clarifying things for me.
Can't they be tested for antibodies and get a card from their doctor's office? If not, why not??
Idk….but I get it through the app.

View attachment 494071
Positive since March 2020
Cool!
So I reiterate. Why do I need the vaccine?
I never said you did. But you know why they're saying you should.
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?

those who have natural immunity because they had it before and have the antibodies?
That’s a GREAT question and one that I’ve wondered about myself, we’ve recently allowed fully vaccinated individuals to stop wearing masks while at work (if they choose) but still require those that have had COVID (no matter how recently) to continue wearing them, which doesn’t make sense to me (other than perhaps the CDC guidelines don’t specifically address those people).
I suppose it's a thin entering wedge into vaccine passports, which still may be required widely. It's up in the air today, but maybe not next week, with a lot of workplaces and all airlines requiring them. The thing is, you can prove vaccination with just a little card, more or less ------- but nobody can prove having survived a COVID infection, at least it would be a clunky, difficult process involving tests and doctors.

So while surviving COVID, like all disease immunities, is far better for immunity than any vaccine, since people can't prove to authorities that they've had it, they want to require the shot. It's all part of the new authoritarianism.

Good discussion! It's clarifying things for me.
Can't they be tested for antibodies and get a card from their doctor's office? If not, why not??
Idk….but I get it through the app.

View attachment 494071
Positive since March 2020
Cool!
So I reiterate. Why do I need the vaccine?
I never said you did. But you know why they're saying you should.
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?
Nope. Try Again.
So you can't stand even a whiff of truth? Explains a lot.
 
those who have natural immunity because they had it before and have the antibodies?
That’s a GREAT question and one that I’ve wondered about myself, we’ve recently allowed fully vaccinated individuals to stop wearing masks while at work (if they choose) but still require those that have had COVID (no matter how recently) to continue wearing them, which doesn’t make sense to me (other than perhaps the CDC guidelines don’t specifically address those people).
I suppose it's a thin entering wedge into vaccine passports, which still may be required widely. It's up in the air today, but maybe not next week, with a lot of workplaces and all airlines requiring them. The thing is, you can prove vaccination with just a little card, more or less ------- but nobody can prove having survived a COVID infection, at least it would be a clunky, difficult process involving tests and doctors.

So while surviving COVID, like all disease immunities, is far better for immunity than any vaccine, since people can't prove to authorities that they've had it, they want to require the shot. It's all part of the new authoritarianism.

Good discussion! It's clarifying things for me.
Can't they be tested for antibodies and get a card from their doctor's office? If not, why not??
Idk….but I get it through the app.

View attachment 494071
Positive since March 2020
Cool!
So I reiterate. Why do I need the vaccine?
I never said you did. But you know why they're saying you should.
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?

those who have natural immunity because they had it before and have the antibodies?
That’s a GREAT question and one that I’ve wondered about myself, we’ve recently allowed fully vaccinated individuals to stop wearing masks while at work (if they choose) but still require those that have had COVID (no matter how recently) to continue wearing them, which doesn’t make sense to me (other than perhaps the CDC guidelines don’t specifically address those people).
I suppose it's a thin entering wedge into vaccine passports, which still may be required widely. It's up in the air today, but maybe not next week, with a lot of workplaces and all airlines requiring them. The thing is, you can prove vaccination with just a little card, more or less ------- but nobody can prove having survived a COVID infection, at least it would be a clunky, difficult process involving tests and doctors.

So while surviving COVID, like all disease immunities, is far better for immunity than any vaccine, since people can't prove to authorities that they've had it, they want to require the shot. It's all part of the new authoritarianism.

Good discussion! It's clarifying things for me.
Can't they be tested for antibodies and get a card from their doctor's office? If not, why not??
Idk….but I get it through the app.

View attachment 494071
Positive since March 2020
Cool!
So I reiterate. Why do I need the vaccine?
I never said you did. But you know why they're saying you should.
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?
Nope. Try Again.
So you can't stand even a whiff of truth? Explains a lot.
It's about control of the virus, and that happens when its human hosts cooperate to give it no haven.

I suppose if you want to socialize all the parmaceutical companies, okay. But it didn't work that great for Amtrak. Js
 
If you're vaccinated why do you or anyone care if cases exist?
BECAUSE the half of Americans that aren't vaccinated are going to keep spreading it among themselves and fuck it up for the rest of us.
Well ---- how would that "fuck it up" as you say so elegantly, and why would you care if we spread it among ourselves if YOU are protected? I'd think you'd be glad, and hope we all die. Probably you do. So, you know, win--win.

My guess is that you all who are so eager to force vaccination on us 1) want more and more and more government control, or 2) don't actually believe your vaccines work. You look at all these re-infections and deaths from clotting and so on, and Fauci talking about booster shots and mutations and I bet you don't believe the vaccine works, so you want everyone to have to get vaccinated --- though why that should help you if you don't believe in the vaccine, I don't know.

I have long thought people who want to force vaccinate for relatively non-lethal diseases make no sense. Just get your own vaccination and shut up!
That's pretty ugly.
I don't wish any of you idiots dead.
I do believe in the vaccine or I wouldn't have gotten it!
I do not dream of more government control. I dream of people not being so shortsighted and selfish. Be Volunteers to America instead! Like Azog, who uses his immunity for good instead of sitting in a hate filled corner and making up what you think others believe.
By relying on these shots, controlled by the government, you are actually ceding control of your life to the government. You don't have to dream.

After the side effects of these drugs become known I suspect that you will be a ward of the government that those who did not take the drug will be forced to take care of.
 
those who have natural immunity because they had it before and have the antibodies?
That’s a GREAT question and one that I’ve wondered about myself, we’ve recently allowed fully vaccinated individuals to stop wearing masks while at work (if they choose) but still require those that have had COVID (no matter how recently) to continue wearing them, which doesn’t make sense to me (other than perhaps the CDC guidelines don’t specifically address those people).
I suppose it's a thin entering wedge into vaccine passports, which still may be required widely. It's up in the air today, but maybe not next week, with a lot of workplaces and all airlines requiring them. The thing is, you can prove vaccination with just a little card, more or less ------- but nobody can prove having survived a COVID infection, at least it would be a clunky, difficult process involving tests and doctors.

So while surviving COVID, like all disease immunities, is far better for immunity than any vaccine, since people can't prove to authorities that they've had it, they want to require the shot. It's all part of the new authoritarianism.

Good discussion! It's clarifying things for me.
Can't they be tested for antibodies and get a card from their doctor's office? If not, why not??
Idk….but I get it through the app.

View attachment 494071
Positive since March 2020
Cool!
So I reiterate. Why do I need the vaccine?
I never said you did. But you know why they're saying you should.
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?

those who have natural immunity because they had it before and have the antibodies?
That’s a GREAT question and one that I’ve wondered about myself, we’ve recently allowed fully vaccinated individuals to stop wearing masks while at work (if they choose) but still require those that have had COVID (no matter how recently) to continue wearing them, which doesn’t make sense to me (other than perhaps the CDC guidelines don’t specifically address those people).
I suppose it's a thin entering wedge into vaccine passports, which still may be required widely. It's up in the air today, but maybe not next week, with a lot of workplaces and all airlines requiring them. The thing is, you can prove vaccination with just a little card, more or less ------- but nobody can prove having survived a COVID infection, at least it would be a clunky, difficult process involving tests and doctors.

So while surviving COVID, like all disease immunities, is far better for immunity than any vaccine, since people can't prove to authorities that they've had it, they want to require the shot. It's all part of the new authoritarianism.

Good discussion! It's clarifying things for me.
Can't they be tested for antibodies and get a card from their doctor's office? If not, why not??
Idk….but I get it through the app.

View attachment 494071
Positive since March 2020
Cool!
So I reiterate. Why do I need the vaccine?
I never said you did. But you know why they're saying you should.
Because it is really about CONTROL AND PROFITS FOR THEM?
Nope. Try Again.
So you can't stand even a whiff of truth? Explains a lot.
It's about control of the virus, and that happens when its human hosts cooperate to give it no haven.

I suppose if you want to socialize all the parmaceutical companies, okay. But it didn't work that great for Amtrak. Js

And by saying that they control the virus (which they have said before and been proven false) they just seek to control people, what with additional shots available only through them. In other words, supporting their desire for a dictatorship with them at the helm.
 
If you're vaccinated why do you or anyone care if cases exist?
BECAUSE the half of Americans that aren't vaccinated are going to keep spreading it among themselves and fuck it up for the rest of us.
Well ---- how would that "fuck it up" as you say so elegantly, and why would you care if we spread it among ourselves if YOU are protected? I'd think you'd be glad, and hope we all die. Probably you do. So, you know, win--win.

My guess is that you all who are so eager to force vaccination on us 1) want more and more and more government control, or 2) don't actually believe your vaccines work. You look at all these re-infections and deaths from clotting and so on, and Fauci talking about booster shots and mutations and I bet you don't believe the vaccine works, so you want everyone to have to get vaccinated --- though why that should help you if you don't believe in the vaccine, I don't know.

I have long thought people who want to force vaccinate for relatively non-lethal diseases make no sense. Just get your own vaccination and shut up!
That's pretty ugly.
I don't wish any of you idiots dead.
I do believe in the vaccine or I wouldn't have gotten it!
I do not dream of more government control. I dream of people not being so shortsighted and selfish. Be Volunteers to America instead! Like Azog, who uses his immunity for good instead of sitting in a hate filled corner and making up what you think others believe.
Thanks, I think? LOL

But me donating for a year now has resulted in people shaming me for not getting a vaccine. Sigh...
 
:lol: The federal military commissary was one of the 1st grocery stores I went to last year requiring masks. They still require them.
So? Are they truly needed or just doing what the government tells them to do?

If it is a military commissary, what is needed is whatever the government tells you is needed to walk in the door :salute:

So the answer is, do as big brother tells you and don't ask questions. Not the way of free Americans.

Your freedom is brought to you by the people who run military commissaries.

And we learn what from that, Grasshopper?

Your job is to have a strong back and a weak mind. Sometimes people fool themselves into believing otherwise, Cricket.
 
If you're vaccinated why do you or anyone care if cases exist?
BECAUSE the half of Americans that aren't vaccinated are going to keep spreading it among themselves and fuck it up for the rest of us.
Well ---- how would that "fuck it up" as you say so elegantly, and why would you care if we spread it among ourselves if YOU are protected? I'd think you'd be glad, and hope we all die. Probably you do. So, you know, win--win.

My guess is that you all who are so eager to force vaccination on us 1) want more and more and more government control, or 2) don't actually believe your vaccines work. You look at all these re-infections and deaths from clotting and so on, and Fauci talking about booster shots and mutations and I bet you don't believe the vaccine works, so you want everyone to have to get vaccinated --- though why that should help you if you don't believe in the vaccine, I don't know.

I have long thought people who want to force vaccinate for relatively non-lethal diseases make no sense. Just get your own vaccination and shut up!
That's pretty ugly.
I don't wish any of you idiots dead.
I do believe in the vaccine or I wouldn't have gotten it!
I do not dream of more government control. I dream of people not being so shortsighted and selfish. Be Volunteers to America instead! Like Azog, who uses his immunity for good instead of sitting in a hate filled corner and making up what you think others believe.
Thanks, I think? LOL

But me donating for a year now has resulted in people shaming me for not getting a vaccine. Sigh...

I think people need to stay in their lane and stop trying to sideswipe those traveling in the other direction. Get the jab or don't get the jab. Whichever one decides to do, they shouldn't be holier than thou about it or make up a bunch of crap or proliferate false information. That is my position on all vaccinations. I have had my baker's dozen of them, but it doesn't bother me in the least that others refuse them. I defend their right to refuse them. What I have a low tolerance for are people who try to rationalize their refusal based on dodgy science. "I don't want to" is good enough for me.
 
:lol: The federal military commissary was one of the 1st grocery stores I went to last year requiring masks. They still require them.
So? Are they truly needed or just doing what the government tells them to do?

If it is a military commissary, what is needed is whatever the government tells you is needed to walk in the door :salute:

So the answer is, do as big brother tells you and don't ask questions. Not the way of free Americans.

Your freedom is brought to you by the people who run military commissaries.

And we learn what from that, Grasshopper?

Your job is to have a strong back and a weak mind. Sometimes people fool themselves into believing otherwise, Cricket.

LOL, a playground response. Pretty well answers the question if you had an actual point or not ...
 
If you're vaccinated why do you or anyone care if cases exist?
BECAUSE the half of Americans that aren't vaccinated are going to keep spreading it among themselves and fuck it up for the rest of us.
Well ---- how would that "fuck it up" as you say so elegantly, and why would you care if we spread it among ourselves if YOU are protected? I'd think you'd be glad, and hope we all die. Probably you do. So, you know, win--win.

My guess is that you all who are so eager to force vaccination on us 1) want more and more and more government control, or 2) don't actually believe your vaccines work. You look at all these re-infections and deaths from clotting and so on, and Fauci talking about booster shots and mutations and I bet you don't believe the vaccine works, so you want everyone to have to get vaccinated --- though why that should help you if you don't believe in the vaccine, I don't know.

I have long thought people who want to force vaccinate for relatively non-lethal diseases make no sense. Just get your own vaccination and shut up!
That's pretty ugly.
I don't wish any of you idiots dead.
I do believe in the vaccine or I wouldn't have gotten it!
I do not dream of more government control. I dream of people not being so shortsighted and selfish. Be Volunteers to America instead! Like Azog, who uses his immunity for good instead of sitting in a hate filled corner and making up what you think others believe.
Thanks, I think? LOL

But me donating for a year now has resulted in people shaming me for not getting a vaccine. Sigh...

I think people need to stay in their lane and stop trying to sideswipe those traveling in the other direction. Get the jab or don't get the jab. Whichever one decides to do, they shouldn't be holier than thou about it or make up a bunch of crap or proliferate false information. That is my position on all vaccinations. I have had my baker's dozen of them, but it doesn't bother me in the least that others refuse them. I defend their right to refuse them. What I have a low tolerance for are people who try to rationalize their refusal based on dodgy science. "I don't want to" is good enough for me.
Well, at least that's honest.
 
:lol: The federal military commissary was one of the 1st grocery stores I went to last year requiring masks. They still require them.
So? Are they truly needed or just doing what the government tells them to do?

If it is a military commissary, what is needed is whatever the government tells you is needed to walk in the door :salute:

So the answer is, do as big brother tells you and don't ask questions. Not the way of free Americans.

Your freedom is brought to you by the people who run military commissaries.

And we learn what from that, Grasshopper?

Your job is to have a strong back and a weak mind. Sometimes people fool themselves into believing otherwise, Cricket.

LOL, a playground response. Pretty well answers the question if you had an actual point or not ...

You reap what you sow
 

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