Creationists

[Hollie]

Your debunker can't debunk the word of God that explains the global flood and can be confirmed through evidence.

Fail as usual.




Age of the earth.

Those silly videos just reek of amateur.

 

[Youwerecreated]

False. The are many cases (the progression of humans, for example), showing a clear progression and transition from early ancestor to current humans.

Don't let your lack of training in science and your religious affliction cause you to man's such nonsensical statements.

No they havn't.

Read the facts and see how this guy admits the fossil record is not even close to complete but we knew that right. So the fossil record is based on conjecture.

The Fossil Record

I would certainly define this as a slow transition.

http://www.macroevolution.net/human-evolution-chart-1.html#human-evolution-chart
Human Evolution Chart (Sec. 2) – Online Biology Dictionary

May I ask if you also believe in Noah's Ark to it fullest? If so, how do you explain how the animals could all fit in the Ark and how they could have been fed, bathed, have their waste removed, and have the property temperature for each specific animal.

Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

If everything slowly evolved over millions and billions of years where are these transitional fossils. Why are these that evolved from one group to another group not still arond but the ones they evolved from are still here ? I mean the explanation given is the better adapted transitional organisms pass on their traits through natural selection.

If you are not willing to put your beliefs to the test a person can be mislead. That is why many evolutionist and ex atheist have done and have become believers because the evidence better supports a designer.

 

[Youwerecreated]

I would certainly define this as a slow transition.

http://www.macroevolution.net/human-evolution-chart-1.html#human-evolution-chart
Human Evolution Chart (Sec. 2) – Online Biology Dictionary

May I ask if you also believe in Noah's Ark to it fullest? If so, how do you explain how the animals could all fit in the Ark and how they could have been fed, bathed, have their waste removed, and have the property temperature for each specific animal.

Read up on punctuated eqilibrium.

If all organisms are transitional organisms and every organism experience mutations how come living fossils of today show no change from the ancient past ?


Just look arond this This site,it has a lot of fossils that show no change from their ancient ancestors.

Living-Fossils.com

From the site you linked to:
"The theory of evolution is a fictitious story written about the natural history of species, and is actually refuted by the scientific findings its adherents obtain!"

I'm afraid you have again simply cut and pasted the same tired religious nonsense that has been refuted for the last 150 years.

Hollie why do these living fossils show no change from their ancient ancestors according to dating methods ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

Here ya go some more.

John Morris (2010) The Young Earth - Creation occurred not long ago (SCC 2010) - YouTube

Some more creationist nonsense.

I'm sorry maybe they are just speaking about things you don't understand.

 

[Hollie]

I always find it interesting that the silly videos linked to by youwerecreated are so typically connected to the primary charlatans connected to such organizations as the ICR.

Promonent among these charlatans is John Morris. He is profiled in the Encyclopedia of American Loons. What a lovely endoresment.


From the Encyclopedia of American Loons

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #288: John D. Morris

#288: John D. Morris


John D. Morris is the son of the original modern young earth creationist, Henry Morris, the first one to try to construe science as “just another religion”, and hence on equal footing with respect to truth-aptness as Biblical literalism. John D. has followed in his father’s footsteps as president of the Institute for Creation Research (he is also an engineer). Most of his time is spent touring churches to misrepresent the fossil record (some of it is actually covered here; see also

this: Creationist Arguments: Australopithecines and,

this: Lancelet on AIG, ICR and Tiktaalik – Dispatches from the Creation Wars

His general tactic is to contrast the “harmful philosophies” and “evil practices” that are “fruits” of the evolutionary tree (including promiscuity, pornography, homosexuality, atheism & abortion), with the “genuine Christianity” and “correct practices” of the creationist tree (including “true history”, “true Americanism”, “true science”, and “true government”).

Relatively standard fare, discussed nicely in this three part series (John features prominently)
:
Part I, “Pithecophobes of the World, Unite!” (Part I) – Stranger Fruit

Part II, “Pithecophobes of the World, Unite!” (Part I) – Stranger Fruit

and Part III. “Pithecophobes of the World, Unite!” (Part III) – Stranger Fruit

Together with Ken Ham he has written what seems to pass for a science textbook among creationists: Answers in Genesis is proudly Bible-based – Pharyngula.

He’s not the only spawn of Henry Morris running around creating havoc. Henry Morris III is the CEO of the Institute for Creation Research (and ol’ Henry’s grandson, apparently). He was the guy who was most involved in the institute’s attempt to be given the authority to pass out graduate degrees in science. While their attempts found some support (see Leo Berman), it eventually failed, fortunately.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Your debunker can't debunk the word of God that explains the global flood and can be confirmed through evidence.

Fail as usual.




Age of the earth.

Those silly videos just reek of amateur.

If they are so amateur where are your rebuttals ? Talk is cheap.

 

[Youwerecreated]

I always find it interesting that the silly videos linked to by youwerecreated are so typically connected to the primary charlatans connected to such organizations as the ICR.

Promonent among these charlatans is John Morris. He is profiled in the Encyclopedia of American Loons. What a lovely endoresment.


From the Encyclopedia of American Loons

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #288: John D. Morris

#288: John D. Morris


John D. Morris is the son of the original modern young earth creationist, Henry Morris, the first one to try to construe science as “just another religion”, and hence on equal footing with respect to truth-aptness as Biblical literalism. John D. has followed in his father’s footsteps as president of the Institute for Creation Research (he is also an engineer). Most of his time is spent touring churches to misrepresent the fossil record (some of it is actually covered here; see also

this: Creationist Arguments: Australopithecines and,

this: Lancelet on AIG, ICR and Tiktaalik – Dispatches from the Creation Wars

His general tactic is to contrast the “harmful philosophies” and “evil practices” that are “fruits” of the evolutionary tree (including promiscuity, pornography, homosexuality, atheism & abortion), with the “genuine Christianity” and “correct practices” of the creationist tree (including “true history”, “true Americanism”, “true science”, and “true government”).

Relatively standard fare, discussed nicely in this three part series (John features prominently)
:
Part I, “Pithecophobes of the World, Unite!” (Part I) – Stranger Fruit

Part II, “Pithecophobes of the World, Unite!” (Part I) – Stranger Fruit

and Part III. “Pithecophobes of the World, Unite!” (Part III) – Stranger Fruit

Together with Ken Ham he has written what seems to pass for a science textbook among creationists: Answers in Genesis is proudly Bible-based – Pharyngula.

He’s not the only spawn of Henry Morris running around creating havoc. Henry Morris III is the CEO of the Institute for Creation Research (and ol’ Henry’s grandson, apparently). He was the guy who was most involved in the institute’s attempt to be given the authority to pass out graduate degrees in science. While their attempts found some support (see Leo Berman), it eventually failed, fortunately.

Do you realize how evolutionist are sons and daughters of evolutionist ? By watching the video we know they are creationist.

Hollie it's whose theory present the best argument with the evidence.

The courts are filled with people that to have been brainwashed into believing in evolution,naturally they will support the evolutionist. The more evidence gathered the harder it is to hold on to the fairytale of naturalism.

 

[Hollie]

Age of the earth.

Scientific Evidences For a Young Earth - Dr. Thomas Kindell - YouTube

Does anyone else find it interesting that Dr. Thomas Kindell is a creationist hack who does not hold a real doctorate or ph.D but rather some phony title in "Biblical apologetics".

J. Horatio Christ but what a sad, pathetic little man is youwerecreated who promote such a charlatan and a fraud.

Thomas Kindell - CreationWiki, the encyclopedia of creation science

Dr. Thomas Kindell was once an ardent believer in the “fact” of evolution. However, through his exposure to the scientific case for creation, he became a zealous creationist. He has received advanced training in scientific creationism through the Graduate School of the Institute for Creation Research in Santee, California. He has been privileged to study under several of the world's most prominent creation scientists. He also has studied Christian Apologetics and Biblical-Scientific Creationism at California Graduate School of Theology where he received his M.A. in Biblical Studies. He holds a Doctorate in Philosophy of Theology (major in philosophy of Biblical apologetics.)

Dr. Kindell is the founder and president of Reasons for Faith Ministries, Inc., a non-profit ministry dedicated to equipping Christian believers to “give every man an answer” for their Biblical faith. He is a licensed Assemblies of God evangelist and is the only credentialed Assemblies minister devoted to full-time teaching of Creation-Science apologetics. He is a member of the Oregon Design Science Association and is a lifetime sustaining member of the Creation Research Society.

For over twenty-eight years he has engaged in a traveling teaching ministry lecturing on Biblical apologetics and the scientific case for creation. Dr. Kindell is available for speaking engagements full-time on a free will offering basis throughout the United States and abroad. His seminars have been enthusiastically endorsed by Dr. Duane T. Gish, Senior Vice‑President Emeritus of the Institute for Creation Research. He has also successfully debated the scientific case for creation against notable evolutionists on high school and college campuses, radio, and television. Dr. Kindell is a frequent guest on the radio series “Science, Scripture & Salvation” which is produced by the Institute for Creation Research. He is the author of the acclaimed book, Evolution on Trial.

 

[Hollie]

I always find it interesting that the silly videos linked to by youwerecreated are so typically connected to the primary charlatans connected to such organizations as the ICR.

Promonent among these charlatans is John Morris. He is profiled in the Encyclopedia of American Loons. What a lovely endoresment.


From the Encyclopedia of American Loons

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #288: John D. Morris

#288: John D. Morris


John D. Morris is the son of the original modern young earth creationist, Henry Morris, the first one to try to construe science as “just another religion”, and hence on equal footing with respect to truth-aptness as Biblical literalism. John D. has followed in his father’s footsteps as president of the Institute for Creation Research (he is also an engineer). Most of his time is spent touring churches to misrepresent the fossil record (some of it is actually covered here; see also

this: Creationist Arguments: Australopithecines and,

this: Lancelet on AIG, ICR and Tiktaalik – Dispatches from the Creation Wars

His general tactic is to contrast the “harmful philosophies” and “evil practices” that are “fruits” of the evolutionary tree (including promiscuity, pornography, homosexuality, atheism & abortion), with the “genuine Christianity” and “correct practices” of the creationist tree (including “true history”, “true Americanism”, “true science”, and “true government”).

Relatively standard fare, discussed nicely in this three part series (John features prominently)
:
Part I, “Pithecophobes of the World, Unite!” (Part I) – Stranger Fruit

Part II, “Pithecophobes of the World, Unite!” (Part I) – Stranger Fruit

and Part III. “Pithecophobes of the World, Unite!” (Part III) – Stranger Fruit

Together with Ken Ham he has written what seems to pass for a science textbook among creationists: Answers in Genesis is proudly Bible-based – Pharyngula.

He’s not the only spawn of Henry Morris running around creating havoc. Henry Morris III is the CEO of the Institute for Creation Research (and ol’ Henry’s grandson, apparently). He was the guy who was most involved in the institute’s attempt to be given the authority to pass out graduate degrees in science. While their attempts found some support (see Leo Berman), it eventually failed, fortunately.

Do you realize how evolutionist are sons and daughters of evolutionist ? By watching the video we know they are creationist.

Hollie it's whose theory present the best argument with the evidence.

The courts are filled with people that to have been brainwashed into believing in evolution,naturally they will support the evolutionist. The more evidence gathered the harder it is to hold on to the fairytale of naturalism.

That's so silly. The hacks who you promote are charlatans and snake oil salesmen.

You really should be ashamed of yourself by promoting lies and deception.

 

[Hollie]

Hey, go figure. Another of youwerecreated’s silly videos was hosted by yet another creationist-religious whack job. Here again, another religious charlatan who is a meteorologist but has decided that he can speak authoritatively on the geologic record.

Does anyone else find it curious that so many of the charlatans that appear in the goofy videos cut and pasted ny youwwerecreated have no training or academic credentials in the subject matter they rattle on about?

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #303: Michael Oard

#303: Michael Oard


And now we are back to the creationists. Michael Oard is associated with Answers in Genesis and has published several creation “science” articles in their in-house journal Answers. Together with Peter Klevberg he has contributed “Green River Formation Very Likely Did Not Form in a Postdiluvian Lake”. Indeed. For the junk rag Creation he has written, among other things, “Do Rivers Erode Through Mountains”. His answer is that a global flood must be assumed. The geological evidence is … absent. He has also written the book “Flood by Design”. You see where this is going.

Thing is, Oard – who is a meteorologist – is obsessed about taking geology back from those evil “evolutionary geologists” (Don Batten’s term – Batten would have merited inclusion in our Encyclopedia were he not Australian). Oard also denies the existence of black holes and dark matter. Apparently his area of expertise is endless. He has become modestly known for his own theory of the origin of the moon but claims to be suppressed by – you guessed it – evolutionary astronomers. If nothing else works, Oard is pretty quick to appeal to the “different worldview” gambit. But of course, it applies exclusively to evolutionary scientists, who only confirm their preconceptions and are blinded to the alternatives – not to himself.

With one “Beverly Oard” (presumably a wife) he has also written what passes for a creationist science book, “Life in the Great Ice Age” – a picture book designed for homeschool use, appropriate for kids aged 6–8, and another excellent illustration of what creation “scientists” are trying to achieve. It has nothing to do with science, of course, but everything to do with converting kids to Jesus.

He has, predictably, denied AGW – which is promoted by “uniformitarian scientists”. Just as geology, astronomy and biology, I suppose.

Diagnosis: Why are all these deluded, conspiracy-mongering religious fanatics also so blatantly dishonest? In any case, Oard is as deluded and dishonest as they come.

 

[Hollie]

Do you realize how evolutionist are sons and daughters of evolutionist ? .

Actually, I haven't noticed that.

But since I can only presume that you have no clue about that which you speak, please identify for us those "evolutionists" whose sons and daughters are "evolutionist."


In the meantime, do a search for the hacks - like father, like son John Morris.

 

[Big_D]

Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

Why are these that evolved from one group to another group If everything slowly evolved over millions and billions of years where are these transitional fossils. not still arond but the ones they evolved from are still here ? I mean the explanation given is the better adapted transitional organisms pass on their traits through natural selection.

If you are not willing to put your beliefs to the test a person can be mislead. That is why many evolutionist and ex atheist have done and have become believers because the evidence better supports a designer.

Are you saying that not all dogs needed to be on the Ark and just one breed? If so, then how are bulldogs, poodles, great danes, and others around today if pugs were the chosen dog on the ark? Also, how could animals that need a cold climate live next to an animal that needs a warm climate? Also, I presume that the water that rained down was fresh water. If this is true then how did the salt water fish survive?

I never heard the transitional fossil argument before you brought it up but I saw a number articles and websites that shows transitional fossils have been found.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Hey, go figure. Another of youwerecreated’s silly videos was hosted by yet another creationist-religious whack job. Here again, another religious charlatan who is a meteorologist but has decided that he can speak authoritatively on the geologic record.

Does anyone else find it curious that so many of the charlatans that appear in the goofy videos cut and pasted ny youwwerecreated have no training or academic credentials in the subject matter they rattle on about?

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #303: Michael Oard

#303: Michael Oard


And now we are back to the creationists. Michael Oard is associated with Answers in Genesis and has published several creation “science” articles in their in-house journal Answers. Together with Peter Klevberg he has contributed “Green River Formation Very Likely Did Not Form in a Postdiluvian Lake”. Indeed. For the junk rag Creation he has written, among other things, “Do Rivers Erode Through Mountains”. His answer is that a global flood must be assumed. The geological evidence is … absent. He has also written the book “Flood by Design”. You see where this is going.

Thing is, Oard – who is a meteorologist – is obsessed about taking geology back from those evil “evolutionary geologists” (Don Batten’s term – Batten would have merited inclusion in our Encyclopedia were he not Australian). Oard also denies the existence of black holes and dark matter. Apparently his area of expertise is endless. He has become modestly known for his own theory of the origin of the moon but claims to be suppressed by – you guessed it – evolutionary astronomers. If nothing else works, Oard is pretty quick to appeal to the “different worldview” gambit. But of course, it applies exclusively to evolutionary scientists, who only confirm their preconceptions and are blinded to the alternatives – not to himself.

With one “Beverly Oard” (presumably a wife) he has also written what passes for a creationist science book, “Life in the Great Ice Age” – a picture book designed for homeschool use, appropriate for kids aged 6–8, and another excellent illustration of what creation “scientists” are trying to achieve. It has nothing to do with science, of course, but everything to do with converting kids to Jesus.

He has, predictably, denied AGW – which is promoted by “uniformitarian scientists”. Just as geology, astronomy and biology, I suppose.

Diagnosis: Why are all these deluded, conspiracy-mongering religious fanatics also so blatantly dishonest? In any case, Oard is as deluded and dishonest as they come.

Hollie you can insult these men of science all you like but people know they are creationist these videos were taken from speakers from creation conferences.

How bout you deal with their explanations.

 

[Hollie]

Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

So would that mean in just 6,000 years, the breeds of dogs today all evolved from from a very few breeds that were on the Ark?

That's odd because my Great Dane is linked to a breed of dog very similar in size, stature, color and appearance that existed in ancient Egypt.

I'm curious because as we know, it was extraterrestrials who obviously built the pyramids (and must have brought with them a Great Dane-like dog) so isn’t it possible that these same extraterrestrials are really the true gods?

 

[Hollie]

Hey, go figure. Another of youwerecreated’s silly videos was hosted by yet another creationist-religious whack job. Here again, another religious charlatan who is a meteorologist but has decided that he can speak authoritatively on the geologic record.

Does anyone else find it curious that so many of the charlatans that appear in the goofy videos cut and pasted ny youwwerecreated have no training or academic credentials in the subject matter they rattle on about?

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #303: Michael Oard

#303: Michael Oard


And now we are back to the creationists. Michael Oard is associated with Answers in Genesis and has published several creation “science” articles in their in-house journal Answers. Together with Peter Klevberg he has contributed “Green River Formation Very Likely Did Not Form in a Postdiluvian Lake”. Indeed. For the junk rag Creation he has written, among other things, “Do Rivers Erode Through Mountains”. His answer is that a global flood must be assumed. The geological evidence is … absent. He has also written the book “Flood by Design”. You see where this is going.

Thing is, Oard – who is a meteorologist – is obsessed about taking geology back from those evil “evolutionary geologists” (Don Batten’s term – Batten would have merited inclusion in our Encyclopedia were he not Australian). Oard also denies the existence of black holes and dark matter. Apparently his area of expertise is endless. He has become modestly known for his own theory of the origin of the moon but claims to be suppressed by – you guessed it – evolutionary astronomers. If nothing else works, Oard is pretty quick to appeal to the “different worldview” gambit. But of course, it applies exclusively to evolutionary scientists, who only confirm their preconceptions and are blinded to the alternatives – not to himself.

With one “Beverly Oard” (presumably a wife) he has also written what passes for a creationist science book, “Life in the Great Ice Age” – a picture book designed for homeschool use, appropriate for kids aged 6–8, and another excellent illustration of what creation “scientists” are trying to achieve. It has nothing to do with science, of course, but everything to do with converting kids to Jesus.

He has, predictably, denied AGW – which is promoted by “uniformitarian scientists”. Just as geology, astronomy and biology, I suppose.

Diagnosis: Why are all these deluded, conspiracy-mongering religious fanatics also so blatantly dishonest? In any case, Oard is as deluded and dishonest as they come.

Hollie you can insult these men of science all you like but people know they are creationist these videos were taken from speakers from creation conferences.

How bout you deal with their explanations.

These are not men of science but men of a peculiar disability who rattle on about subjects they have no training in.

Why do you think a meterologist is qualified to interpret the geological record especially when he has signed an agreement (as with the ICR), that any material he distributes must meet with the ICR policies?

I understand you endorse such dishonesty and charlatanism but don't expect others to be accomplices to your dishonesty and lies.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

Why are these that evolved from one group to another group If everything slowly evolved over millions and billions of years where are these transitional fossils. not still arond but the ones they evolved from are still here ? I mean the explanation given is the better adapted transitional organisms pass on their traits through natural selection.

If you are not willing to put your beliefs to the test a person can be mislead. That is why many evolutionist and ex atheist have done and have become believers because the evidence better supports a designer.

Are you saying that not all dogs needed to be on the Ark and just one breed? If so, then how are bulldogs, poodles, great danes, and others around today if pugs were the chosen dog on the ark? Also, how could animals that need a cold climate live next to an animal that needs a warm climate? Also, I presume that the water that rained down was fresh water. If this is true then how did the salt water fish survive?

I never heard the transitional fossil argument before you brought it up but I saw a number articles and websites that shows transitional fossils have been found.

I would say and some believe that wolves were on the ark and mutts were on the ark. The wolves accounted for all wild dogs and the mutts accounted for all dometicated dogs.

How did we get the many different breeds would be through cross breeding,gene recombination,and selective breeding. Most purebred dogs in the wild and or domesticated dogs are the product of several diiferent crossings. If you trace all the different breeds that make up aoxer you will understand they are products of selective cross breeding.

If you take that one purebred and cross it with a mutt the first litter would not look like a purebred anymore correct ? The only way you maintain the purebred traits is breed a purebreed with a purebreed. This is why Gregory Mendel is so famous is because what he proved about genetics.

That is how breeders today maintain their breeds of dogs,herds of cattle,herds of horses,so on and so on.

The number of animals that went on the ark were only members of each group that existed at that time.


How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark?

 

[Youwerecreated]

Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

So would that mean in just 6,000 years, the breeds of dogs today all evolved from from a very few breeds that were on the Ark?

That's odd because my Great Dane is linked to a breed of dog very similar in size, stature, color and appearance that existed in ancient Egypt.

I'm curious because as we know, it was extraterrestrials who obviously built the pyramids (and must have brought with them a Great Dane-like dog) so isn’t it possible that these same extraterrestrials are really the true gods?

Egypt had greyhounds , airdales, salukis. Yes that is what Im saying all dog breeds were products of man just like cattle and horses.

The wild dogs were developed in the wild and the dometicated dogs by men.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

So would that mean in just 6,000 years, the breeds of dogs today all evolved from from a very few breeds that were on the Ark?

That's odd because my Great Dane is linked to a breed of dog very similar in size, stature, color and appearance that existed in ancient Egypt.

I'm curious because as we know, it was extraterrestrials who obviously built the pyramids (and must have brought with them a Great Dane-like dog) so isn’t it possible that these same extraterrestrials are really the true gods?

What if these alien beings are angels and God ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

Hey, go figure. Another of youwerecreated’s silly videos was hosted by yet another creationist-religious whack job. Here again, another religious charlatan who is a meteorologist but has decided that he can speak authoritatively on the geologic record.

Does anyone else find it curious that so many of the charlatans that appear in the goofy videos cut and pasted ny youwwerecreated have no training or academic credentials in the subject matter they rattle on about?

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #303: Michael Oard

#303: Michael Oard


And now we are back to the creationists. Michael Oard is associated with Answers in Genesis and has published several creation “science” articles in their in-house journal Answers. Together with Peter Klevberg he has contributed “Green River Formation Very Likely Did Not Form in a Postdiluvian Lake”. Indeed. For the junk rag Creation he has written, among other things, “Do Rivers Erode Through Mountains”. His answer is that a global flood must be assumed. The geological evidence is … absent. He has also written the book “Flood by Design”. You see where this is going.

Thing is, Oard – who is a meteorologist – is obsessed about taking geology back from those evil “evolutionary geologists” (Don Batten’s term – Batten would have merited inclusion in our Encyclopedia were he not Australian). Oard also denies the existence of black holes and dark matter. Apparently his area of expertise is endless. He has become modestly known for his own theory of the origin of the moon but claims to be suppressed by – you guessed it – evolutionary astronomers. If nothing else works, Oard is pretty quick to appeal to the “different worldview” gambit. But of course, it applies exclusively to evolutionary scientists, who only confirm their preconceptions and are blinded to the alternatives – not to himself.

With one “Beverly Oard” (presumably a wife) he has also written what passes for a creationist science book, “Life in the Great Ice Age” – a picture book designed for homeschool use, appropriate for kids aged 6–8, and another excellent illustration of what creation “scientists” are trying to achieve. It has nothing to do with science, of course, but everything to do with converting kids to Jesus.

He has, predictably, denied AGW – which is promoted by “uniformitarian scientists”. Just as geology, astronomy and biology, I suppose.

Diagnosis: Why are all these deluded, conspiracy-mongering religious fanatics also so blatantly dishonest? In any case, Oard is as deluded and dishonest as they come.

Hollie you can insult these men of science all you like but people know they are creationist these videos were taken from speakers from creation conferences.

How bout you deal with their explanations.

These are not men of science but men of a peculiar disability who rattle on about subjects they have no training in.

Why do you think a meterologist is qualified to interpret the geological record especially when he has signed an agreement (as with the ICR), that any material he distributes must meet with the ICR policies?

I understand you endorse such dishonesty and charlatanism but don't expect others to be accomplices to your dishonesty and lies.

Because I am a creationist ,my degree in molecular biology is worthless to me, is that what you are saying ?

These men in the videos hold doctorate degrees in science. So they are not men of science because they don't agree with your Ideology ?

 

[Hollie]

Hollie you can insult these men of science all you like but people know they are creationist these videos were taken from speakers from creation conferences.

How bout you deal with their explanations.

These are not men of science but men of a peculiar disability who rattle on about subjects they have no training in.

Why do you think a meterologist is qualified to interpret the geological record especially when he has signed an agreement (as with the ICR), that any material he distributes must meet with the ICR policies?

I understand you endorse such dishonesty and charlatanism but don't expect others to be accomplices to your dishonesty and lies.

Because I am a creationist ,my degree in molecular biology is worthless to me, is that what you are saying ?

These men in the videos hold doctorate degrees in science. So they are not men of science because they don't agree with your Ideology ?

These men do not hold "doctorates" in science.

I already pointed that out with reference to Michael Oard, Kindell and John Morris.

J. Horatio christ, man, you will lie about anything.