Creationists

[UltimateReality]

Christian creationism is not science. That is what you are unable to come to terms with. Your claims to miracles, supermagical designer gawds, etc. are, by definition, irrational.

After all the pages in this thread wherein you insist in cutting and pasting from Christian creationist ministries, you have failed at every effort to present a single, testable example of "the gawds did it". Instead, you have made every effort vilify science, even floating outrageously silly conspiracies in favor of your creationist fantasies.

Hollie, you wouldn't know real science if it came up behind you and bit you in the butt,you have demonstrated this on many occasions.

really? if you think (and I use the word loosely) that unprovable ravings you use as examples of real science are science then why don't you make a trip to the national science foundation and present your "theory" to them ?
if you're extremely lucky ,you might get to 1 or two of your foreknowledge bits before they escort you to the waiting police car....that is of course is after they stop laughing hysterically..
just a thought.

National Science Foundation?? Those loons???

 

[Hollie]

Your last paragraph is far from the truth. Please provide a supporting cut and paste and link. The elemental substance argument is fallacious, as many designed things are made from elemental substances including rocket ships and computers.

(snicker) just not by god.
using you spun logic, why didn't god just shazaam all the necessary parts for those things in to existence.
your self assembly bullshit fails every time.

MY self assembly BS????????????? Now that's funny!!!

Your delusions are not funny all. They're a contributing factor to your pathology that is manifested in unhealthy obsessions with anonymous posters on a message board and an equally unhealthy descent into the twisted world of fundamentalist Christian creationism.

 

[UltimateReality]

If you were capable of being honest, you would acknowledge your Christian fundamentalist beliefs and begin the process of resolving the hate and self-hate that causes you such anger issues.

If you were honest you would acknowledge you were presented with evidence of design yesterday.

I am being honest and advising that it's dishonest of you to make a statement such as the above when you knowingly have falsified such statement.

You never provided such evidence and you know such evidence doesn't exist.

Coming from a proven LIAR this doesn't carry much weight. Unlike your office chair.

 

[Hollie]

Hollie, you wouldn't know real science if it came up behind you and bit you in the butt,you have demonstrated this on many occasions.

really? if you think (and I use the word loosely) that unprovable ravings you use as examples of real science are science then why don't you make a trip to the national science foundation and present your "theory" to them ?
if you're extremely lucky ,you might get to 1 or two of your foreknowledge bits before they escort you to the waiting police car....that is of course is after they stop laughing hysterically..
just a thought.

National Science Foundation?? Those loons???

Yeah, real scientists as opposed to Christian creationist charlatans.

 

[UltimateReality]

Have you somehow missed that you are simply stating the obvious that man has the ability to manipulate enzyme function?

Go lay down and finish your coma.

It took intelligence to engineer them who engineered in the beginning ? you lose again

no you lose, you have no proof that a "who" engineered anything...so the assumption of intelligence is meaningless.

Oh so we need proof now? Guess darwinism is going away now finally.

 

[UltimateReality]

no it's not, enzymes "have functions" there is no proof that they were programmed by a designer.
ALSO Just because we can and have programmed them is no proof at all that another sentient life form could or would do it..
that's fact unlike yours...

I showed you man has the ability to engineer Enzymes dipshit.

I showed that Enzymes can in fact have their functions altered by intelligence, scoreboard troll.

Have you somehow missed that you are simply stating the obvious that man has the ability to manipulate enzyme function?

Go lay down and finish your coma.

If you are talking to Daws, its comb-over, not coma.

 

[Hollie]

If you were honest you would acknowledge you were presented with evidence of design yesterday.

I am being honest and advising that it's dishonest of you to make a statement such as the above when you knowingly have falsified such statement.

You never provided such evidence and you know such evidence doesn't exist.

Coming from a proven LIAR this doesn't carry much weight. Unlike you office chair.

Oh my, the dangers of Christian fundamentalists.

 

[UltimateReality]

asked and answerd.

I will stop it when you provide evidence of your engineer.

Let's talk about your designer.

Let's see who is suffering from delusions. What is your evidence that Enzymes evolved the ability to do what we have discussed ?

Evolution of DNA

I thought evolutionists didn't trouble themselves with origins questions. Right Daws? Right Hawly?

 

[Hollie]

It took intelligence to engineer them who engineered in the beginning ? you lose again

no you lose, you have no proof that a "who" engineered anything...so the assumption of intelligence is meaningless.

Oh so we need proof now? Guess darwinism is going away now finally.

Science was not a field of study at your Jimmy Swaggert bible school.

 

[UltimateReality]

(snicker) just not by god.
using you spun logic, why didn't god just shazaam all the necessary parts for those things in to existence.
your self assembly bullshit fails every time.

MY self assembly BS????????????? Now that's funny!!!

Your delusions are not funny all. They're a contributing factor to your pathology that is manifested in unhealthy obsessions with anonymous posters on a message board and an equally unhealthy descent into the twisted world of fundamentalist Christian creationism.

You're projecting again.

 

[Hollie]

I will stop it when you provide evidence of your engineer.

Let's talk about your designer.

Let's see who is suffering from delusions. What is your evidence that Enzymes evolved the ability to do what we have discussed ?

Evolution of DNA

I thought evolutionists didn't trouble themselves with origins questions. Right Daws? Right Hawly?

Wrong.

 

[UltimateReality]

Undisputable proof of Loons at the NSF:

Meet Kai Loon Chen.

Global Water Program

 

[Hollie]

Undisputable proof of Loons at the NSF:

Meet Kai Loon Chen.

Global Water Program

Someone else who refused your creepy advances?

 

[UltimateReality]

Here is another science hater who doesn't believe in evolution:


The testimony of Sir John Carew Eccles (1903-1997), a neurophysiologist who won the 1963 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine

Who was he and what was he famous for?

Sir John Carew Eccles, AC FRS FRACP FRSNZ FAAS (27 January 1903 – 2 May 1997) was an Australian neurophysiologist who won the 1963 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his work on the synapse, sharing the prize with Andrew Fielding Huxley and Alan Lloyd Hodgkin.

How did his beliefs about the human mind contradict Darwinian evolution?

Although Sir John Eccles believed that the Darwinism could account for the various life-forms we observe today, he did not believe that it could possibly explain human consciousness. He believed on scientific grounds that each and every human being has an immaterial soul which is supernaturally created by God.

Where’s the evidence?

In his book, Evolution of the Brain: Creation of the Self (Routledge, 1989), Eccles was forthright about his belief, which was based on scientific grounds, in the existence of an immaterial soul

Twenty-one more famous Nobel Prize winners who rejected Darwinism as an account of consciousness | Uncommon Descent

 

[daws101]

I will stop it when you provide evidence of your engineer.

Let's talk about your designer.

Let's see who is suffering from delusions. What is your evidence that Enzymes evolved the ability to do what we have discussed ?

now it's an engineer! changing the name is still no proof....

Dodge !!

I will stop it when you provide evidence of your engineer.

Let's talk about your designer.

Let's see who is suffering from delusions. What is your evidence that Enzymes evolved the ability to do what we have discussed ?

already have .

 

[daws101]

I will stop it when you provide evidence of your engineer.

Let's talk about your designer.

Let's see who is suffering from delusions. What is your evidence that Enzymes evolved the ability to do what we have discussed ?

now it's an engineer! changing the name is still no proof....

You didn't know engineers design daws

ah yes I do.....your attempt at finding fault fails, as always.

 

[Hollie]

Here is another science hater who doesn't believe in evolution:


The testimony of Sir John Carew Eccles (1903-1997), a neurophysiologist who won the 1963 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine

Who was he and what was he famous for?

Sir John Carew Eccles, AC FRS FRACP FRSNZ FAAS (27 January 1903 – 2 May 1997) was an Australian neurophysiologist who won the 1963 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his work on the synapse, sharing the prize with Andrew Fielding Huxley and Alan Lloyd Hodgkin.

How did his beliefs about the human mind contradict Darwinian evolution?

Although Sir John Eccles believed that the Darwinism could account for the various life-forms we observe today, he did not believe that it could possibly explain human consciousness. He believed on scientific grounds that each and every human being has an immaterial soul which is supernaturally created by God.

Where’s the evidence?

In his book, Evolution of the Brain: Creation of the Self (Routledge, 1989), Eccles was forthright about his belief, which was based on scientific grounds, in the existence of an immaterial soul

Twenty-one more famous Nobel Prize winners who rejected Darwinism as an account of consciousness | Uncommon Descent

Cutting and pasting from the usual christian creationist ministries.

That's in bad form, laddie.

 

[UltimateReality]

The delusional creep Hawly, who cannot separate here fantasies about me from reality, would have you believe that no science has been done by believers in God. She is the worst kind of revisionist, because she is relentless in her repetitive brainwashing techniques, posting the same thing over and over and over. So much so that those who lack discernment and are easily manipulated like Daws and NP, actually fall for its revisionism. Here is yet another science loathing Christian:

Joseph Murray (b. 1919), winner of the Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology in 1990.

Who is he and what is he famous for?

Joseph E. Murray (born 1919) was granted the 1990 Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology (which he shared with E. Donnall Thomas) for work that “proved to a doubting world that it was possible to transplant organs to save the lives of dying patients.” Murray was the first to perform kidney transplants. He is one of the founders of modern transplantology.

How do his beliefs about the human mind contradict Darwinian evolution?

He is a devout Catholic, who believes that each and every human being has a soul which is directly created by God.

Where’s the evidence?

In his article “Murray: Surgeon with soul” (Harvard University Gazette, 4 October 2001), John Lenger described Murray’s views on the spiritual aspects of surgery. Surprisingly, Murray believes that each of us has a spiritual soul:

“To Murray, a doctor’s responsibility is to treat each patient as not just a set of symptoms, but as someone with a spirit that can be helped through medical procedures. The title of his autobiography, Surgery of the Soul (Boston Medical Library, 2001), stems from Murray’s spiritually based approach to medicine. Though he has in the past hesitated to talk publicly about his faith, for fear of being lumped in with the televangelist crowd, Murray is deeply religious. ‘Work is a prayer,’ he said, ‘and I start off every morning dedicating it to our Creator. Every day is a prayer – I feel that, and I feel that very strongly.’” (Murray, as cited in Lenger, John. 2001. “Murray: Surgeon with soul: Nobelist’s memoir mixes science and humanity,” in Harvard University Gazette, October 4. Cambridge, MA.)

 

[daws101]

Not making fun at all since I am a Christian ID Theorists. I just believe that many stories in the Bible are not to be taken literally, and the Jewish people knew this at the time they were written. Do your really believe that you take the whole Bible at face value? Jesus commanded you to gouge your eye out if it caused you to stumble so grab a fork.

If you were capable of being honest, you would acknowledge your Christian fundamentalist beliefs and begin the process of resolving the hate and self-hate that causes you such anger issues.

If you could be honest with yourself, you would forgive those who have wronged you in life, including the man that abused you and is responsible for your unwanted same sex attraction, which is the real reason for your hatred of God and your atheism.

no false assuptions or accusations there ..nope not one...

 

[daws101]

Your last paragraph is far from the truth. Please provide a supporting cut and paste and link. The elemental substance argument is fallacious, as many designed things are made from elemental substances including rocket ships and computers.

(snicker) just not by god.
using you spun logic, why didn't god just shazaam all the necessary parts for those things in to existence.
your self assembly bullshit fails every time.

MY self assembly BS????????????? Now that's funny!!!

it' is