Cutting Off Your Nose To Spite Your Face! {KING}

[Pennywise]

Something tells me Mr Black Man is playing all of you and will return at noon with a 180. Otherwise, he's insane, which is a distinct possibility.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yay....we have another racist new poster. Who also happens to have the insight of a cow.

 

[hazlnut]

If certain Americans were not so inherently predisposed to hate Obama before he even took office, would America be in a booming economy and taking the lead in the world in all aspects by now?

A fair question I believe.

Instead of acting in their constituents best interest, many have decided that they would rather just oppose ANYTHING from Obama.

Even if doing so harms America.





Cutting off your nose, to spite your face!

Parts of this country weren't ready for a black President.

Sad. Very sad.

And they keep breeding kids and home schooling them twisting the Bible into racism and homophobia.

Sad. Very sad.

 

[Wildman]

and democrats loved bush and always supported him

thread fail

I am neither a Republican (well, "Im not that kind of Republican"-Gearoid Mac Adhaimh) nor a Democrat and I didn't support Bush for President; but after he was elected, while I disagreed with many things he did, I supported him. People do what they can and I think both Bush and Obama care about America.

All I am saying is that there is a proper and polite way for people to conduct themselves and Americans are losing sight of that. You don't have to gush over Obama but this silly back biting does no one any good.

I think he is an honest and kind man who cares about people and i hope Americans can give his successor a better chance.

LOL...You aren't always going to get things your way. Sometimes ya just have to hang on the ropes and cover. Anyone who shouts out "Is feider linn" for all the honest world to hear scores points in my book.

i see you gulped down gallons of kool-aid .... .... ....

"Is feider linn" , <----------<<<< what the hell does that mean ??

 

[occupied]

If certain Americans were not so inherently predisposed to hate Obama before he even took office, would America be in a booming economy and taking the lead in the world in all aspects by now?

A fair question I believe.

Instead of acting in their constituents best interest, many have decided that they would rather just oppose ANYTHING from Obama.

Even if doing so harms America.




Cutting off your nose, to spite your face!

Parts of this country weren't ready for a black President.

Sad. Very sad.

And they keep breeding kids and home schooling them twisting the Bible into racism and homophobia.

Sad. Very sad.

What is even sadder is that many here do not think there is a racist component to the hyperbolic reaction to his election. Marxist, socialist, kenyan, communist, muslim, anything scary except what they really think, at least on a public forum, in private I have heard the racist component often from others who think my hillbilly appearance makes me one of them. To deny totally that a LOT of people hate him for his race (human?) is to deny the sad reality of America, We have not progressed as far beyond the 1950s is we like to tell ourselves.

 

[LTCArmyRet]

Obama has done extremely well in my estimation.

In fact, all of America should be proud of him.

Alas, there is a virus spreading among us. A virus that only exists to hold Obama up to impossible standards.

From where I'm sitting, America was on the verge of a Great Depression before he took office.

I can only just imagine what could've been accomplished had these people not been adamant in their unwarranted hate.

Yet you can't acknowledge that even after getting re-elected, having a dem controlled congress for most of his time in office, that he has failed to "change" much of anything except to enact a law that has so far been a total failure in creating the change desired. That in my opinion is incompetence.

 

[LTCArmyRet]

I think Black_Man is a poet. Dunno why. Just a feeling.

I can think of a few other words to describe him other than "poet".

 

[Claudette]

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I've alerted the media.

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Good one. I'm sure the media are all waiting with baited breath. I know I am.

The op seems to be an Obama lover. Of course I'm sure he only voted for the black half. Guess he considers himself man enough to ignore that pesky white half.

He's also one deluded fellow if he thinks Barry has done a good job as POTUS.

Hope he doesn't have to use the ACA because he's gonna be even more disappointed when he gets a load of his deductable.

Can hardly wait for high noon. LOL

 

[Katzndogz]

Holding obama to any standards is the same as holding him to impossible standards. When he was running for office the first time, that what his wife, now the nation's first heifer complained about. They are always raising the bar, ONLY her husband has to raise money, ONLY her husband has to put together an organization, ONLY her husband had to win primaries. No one else. Only him. It was never done before. They kept raising the bar for him setting the standard just out of reach.

If obama and his obamabots expected him to get a free ride because he's black he was mistaken. He was actually expected to perform beyond a game of pick up basketball with Jay Z. Then he failed with real world consequences for real world people some of whom aren't black. How racist of them to complain.

 

[LTCArmyRet]

and democrats loved bush and always supported him

thread fail

I am neither a Republican (well, "Im not that kind of Republican"-Gearoid Mac Adhaimh) nor a Democrat and I didn't support Bush for President; but after he was elected, while I disagreed with many things he did, I supported him. People do what they can and I think both Bush and Obama care about America.

All I am saying is that there is a proper and polite way for people to conduct themselves and Americans are losing sight of that. You don't have to gush over Obama but this silly back biting does no one any good.

I think he is an honest and kind man who cares about people and i hope Americans can give his successor a better chance.

LOL...You aren't always going to get things your way. Sometimes ya just have to hang on the ropes and cover. Anyone who shouts out "Is feider linn" for all the honest world to hear scores points in my book.

Well, I for one, don't necessarily consider whether or not a candidate is a "kind" person when deciding who to vote for. I didn't vote for Bush for a second term and have not voted for Obama in either election. There is no secret "formula" for being a good president. But I think the most important thing a President needs to be is a LEADER. Something that has been lacking since Reagan.

Reagan was not perfect, but he had a vision of instilling pride back into the U.S. and his method was the defeat/fall of the USSR and end the cold war. He focused on that and let the other chips fall where they may. Effective governing is done so at the lowest level possible. The federal government is far too involved in too many things that directly affect too many Americans daily lives. It has become too burdensome for the federal government to regulate/control/govern to the extent that every politician claims/wants to. Let the states/ counties/ municipalities find the solutions. Those are the solutions that tend to work best for the citizens in that area.

High taxes and social programs work in densely populated areas of the country. Not so much for the rural areas of the many western areas of the country. If there is a grievance between parties, let the courts decide on a case by case basis instead of arrogant lawmakers creating new laws that are miraculously going to be the cure all, when time and time again, it's proven not to be true.

 

[rightwinger]

The OP raises an interesting question

What would an Obama presidency look like if he had not received complete and total oposition to every proposal and initiative in his Presidency?

What would the Stimulus have looked like if Republicans had participated?
What would Obamacare look like?
What would our unemployment rate be without Republican opposition to jobs programs?

What could Obama have accomplished in a bipartisan environment?

 

[occupied]

The OP raises an interesting question

What would an Obama presidency look like if he had not received complete and total oposition to every proposal and initiative in his Presidency?

What would the Stimulus have looked like if Republicans had participated?
What would Obamacare look like?
What would our unemployment rate be without Republican opposition to jobs programs?

What could Obama have accomplished in a bipartisan environment?

Lord only knows but it was a forgone conclusion that certain demographics were going to go insane at the election of a black man. It is no accident that the tea party is strongest where the klan was strongest 30-40 years ago. Those racist shitheads gave birth to racist shitheads and the cycle continues under the guise of "constitutional values" which happens to mean jack shit when it comes time to craft "conservative legislation".

 

[Meathead]

I guess Obamacare was the death knell for this administration. At least his minions have come around to recognize it as their excuses illustrate.

The fact of the matter is that Obama was not ready to be president. We have never had anyone ascend to the presidency so woefully unprepared. Chalk it up to affirmative action and let's be much more careful in the future.

 

[occupied]

I guess Obamacare was the death knell for this administration. At least his minions have come around to recognize it as their excuses illustrate.

The fact of the matter is that Obama was not ready to be president. We have never had anyone ascend to the presidency so woefully unprepared. Chalk it up to affirmative action and let's be much more careful in the future.

No president in modern times has ever had to operate in such a irrationally hostile legislative environment. When you look at all the hyperbolic hand wringing to even the most innocuous actions of the executive branch it is amazing he has not just resigned and said "fuck you, you self involved America hating assholes, I'm moving to Canada".

 

[The Rabbi]

The OP raises an interesting question

What would an Obama presidency look like if he had not received complete and total oposition to every proposal and initiative in his Presidency?

What would the Stimulus have looked like if Republicans had participated?
What would Obamacare look like?
What would our unemployment rate be without Republican opposition to jobs programs?

What could Obama have accomplished in a bipartisan environment?

1) There was GOP support for many of his policies initially.
2) The stimulus would have contained more supply side stimulus and fewer transfer payments, leading to stronger economic recovery and lower unemployment
3) Obamacare never would have happened and millions of people would still enjoy their health insurance policies
4) Obama's jobs programs consisted of throwing money at unions and other favored constituencies, rather than actually creating jobs. Which is why UE sucks.

Why do you ask?

 

[The Rabbi]

I guess Obamacare was the death knell for this administration. At least his minions have come around to recognize it as their excuses illustrate.

The fact of the matter is that Obama was not ready to be president. We have never had anyone ascend to the presidency so woefully unprepared. Chalk it up to affirmative action and let's be much more careful in the future.

No president in modern times has ever had to operate in such a irrationally hostile legislative environment. When you look at all the hyperbolic hand wringing to even the most innocuous actions of the executive branch it is amazing he has not just resigned and said "fuck you, you self involved America hating assholes, I'm moving to Canada".

We can only hope there is still time for him to do that.

"We have the votes. Fuck 'em." -Rahm Emanuel, chief of staff to Obama in the first term displaying his brilliant bipartisan instincts for working with the GOP.

 

[occupied]

I guess Obamacare was the death knell for this administration. At least his minions have come around to recognize it as their excuses illustrate.

The fact of the matter is that Obama was not ready to be president. We have never had anyone ascend to the presidency so woefully unprepared. Chalk it up to affirmative action and let's be much more careful in the future.

No president in modern times has ever had to operate in such a irrationally hostile legislative environment. When you look at all the hyperbolic hand wringing to even the most innocuous actions of the executive branch it is amazing he has not just resigned and said "fuck you, you self involved America hating assholes, I'm moving to Canada".

We can only hope there is still time for him to do that.

"We have the votes. Fuck 'em." -Rahm Emanuel, chief of staff to Obama in the first term displaying his brilliant bipartisan instincts for working with the GOP.

Do you want bipartisanism or do you want democrats to cave to republican hostage tactics every time? They are not the same thing.

 

[rightwinger]

The OP raises an interesting question

What would an Obama presidency look like if he had not received complete and total oposition to every proposal and initiative in his Presidency?

What would the Stimulus have looked like if Republicans had participated?
What would Obamacare look like?
What would our unemployment rate be without Republican opposition to jobs programs?

What could Obama have accomplished in a bipartisan environment?

1) There was GOP support for many of his policies initially.
2) The stimulus would have contained more supply side stimulus and fewer transfer payments, leading to stronger economic recovery and lower unemployment
3) Obamacare never would have happened and millions of people would still enjoy their health insurance policies
4) Obama's jobs programs consisted of throwing money at unions and other favored constituencies, rather than actually creating jobs. Which is why UE sucks.

Why do you ask?

In playing their "Obama must fail" card Republicans ended up with an all or nothing strategy. In trying to ensure that Obama will get nothing that he is asking for, they also ensured that Republicans got nothing they wanted either

As it was...

Obamacare passed
Taxes on the wealthy increased
Gays got more rights

What did the Republicans get for their obstructionism?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The OP raises an interesting question

What would an Obama presidency look like if he had not received complete and total oposition to every proposal and initiative in his Presidency?

What would the Stimulus have looked like if Republicans had participated?
What would Obamacare look like?
What would our unemployment rate be without Republican opposition to jobs programs?

What could Obama have accomplished in a bipartisan environment?

He had a super majority...he wasted it.
So...

 

[jon_berzerk]

The OP raises an interesting question

What would an Obama presidency look like if he had not received complete and total oposition to every proposal and initiative in his Presidency?

What would the Stimulus have looked like if Republicans had participated?
What would Obamacare look like?
What would our unemployment rate be without Republican opposition to jobs programs?

What could Obama have accomplished in a bipartisan environment?

what are you talking about

--LOL

he didnt need the repubs for any of it