CDZ Cyberbullying . . .

[ricechickie]

Let’s actually define bullying:

If a person is trying to end the interactions, and they other party refuses, it’s probably bullying.

If neither side refuses to quit because it’s important to “win” something, then both sides have some culpability.

That is not bullying. Words have meanings. The "bully" says or does things purposefully to get a negative reaction because they think it is fun or entertaining, like what you do in the flamer zone in order to get the approval of your fellow bullies. You would qualify as a bully according to the definition.

As would you.

So we are mutually bullying each other. But only one of us is bitching about it.

When have I bullied you? That is what I would like to know. I know I confronted you once about calling another poster a Nazi and told you that she is not a Nazi, she is a homemaker, and we have had some pleasant discussions in the coffee shop, so I have no idea why you would feel a need to bully me. What are you bullying me about?

I said you looked like an Amish farmwife in her thirties. It made me laugh.

You thanked the Lord that someone like me didn’t teach your kid. That made me laugh, too.

I thought you considered that conversation bullying.

 

[ricechickie]

I just find it terribly unethical for someone who is a teacher to go around posting bad things about people on messageboards. I hold them to a high standard of conduct.

Don’t you worry. Even if my students got their parents to google Mrs. Chickie, most can’t read the content.

Do you want to insert yourself into the private personal lives of all teachers?

 

[kaz]

I think the flamer zone is like poison for some people. It is a very toxic environment.

I think they are already toxic people and like they go there

 

[kaz]

I just find it terribly unethical for someone who is a teacher to go around posting bad things about people on messageboards. I hold them to a high standard of conduct.

Don’t you worry. Even if my students got their parents to google Mrs. Chickie, most can’t read the content.

Do you want to insert yourself into the private personal lives of all teachers?

Teachers intrude on parenting, why not?

 

[Marion Morrison]

The FZ and Cyberbullying are not even remotely related. The Politics section is much more toxic.

Heck, there are plenty of nonpolitical areas here to post in. There is no need to have a flamer zone. There is only one purpose of a flamer zone, to make a safe haven for bullies and trolls. People who would probably not even otherwise post here if it weren't for the existence of a flamer zone.

 

[ricechickie]

I just find it terribly unethical for someone who is a teacher to go around posting bad things about people on messageboards. I hold them to a high standard of conduct.

Don’t you worry. Even if my students got their parents to google Mrs. Chickie, most can’t read the content.

Do you want to insert yourself into the private personal lives of all teachers?

Teachers intrude on parenting, why not?

If you mean being a mandated reporter, it’s not much of a choice. And it applies to suspected abuse.

 

[BlackSand]

So you think that people should just back down to the bullies? They should be able to say whatever they want whenever they want, and the person who they are talking about should just let it be?

I think we all have a natural instinct to defend ourselves against any kind of attacks, whether they are verbal or physical.

Not really ... I simply suggested that if you don't want to smell like poop ...
You might look into somewhere other than a cesspool to practice your breaststroke ...

.​

 

[kaz]

I just find it terribly unethical for someone who is a teacher to go around posting bad things about people on messageboards. I hold them to a high standard of conduct.

Don’t you worry. Even if my students got their parents to google Mrs. Chickie, most can’t read the content.

Do you want to insert yourself into the private personal lives of all teachers?

Teachers intrude on parenting, why not?

If you mean being a mandated reporter, it’s not much of a choice. And it applies to suspected abuse.

Um ... no ... that's not what I mean

 

[ricechickie]

I just find it terribly unethical for someone who is a teacher to go around posting bad things about people on messageboards. I hold them to a high standard of conduct.

Don’t you worry. Even if my students got their parents to google Mrs. Chickie, most can’t read the content.

Do you want to insert yourself into the private personal lives of all teachers?

Teachers intrude on parenting, why not?

If you mean being a mandated reporter, it’s not much of a choice. And it applies to suspected abuse.

Um ... no ... that's not what I mean

Then I’m afraid you lost me.

 

[JoeMoma]

Let’s actually define bullying:

If a person is trying to end the interactions, and they other party refuses, it’s probably bullying.

If neither side refuses to quit because it’s important to “win” something, then both sides have some culpability.

That is not bullying. Words have meanings. The "bully" says or does things purposefully to get a negative reaction because they think it is fun or entertaining, like what you do in the flamer zone in order to get the approval of your fellow bullies. You would qualify as a bully according to the definition.

As would you.

So we are mutually bullying each other. But only one of us is bitching about it.

When have I bullied you? That is what I would like to know. I know I confronted you once about calling another poster a Nazi and told you that she is not a Nazi, she is a homemaker, and we have had some pleasant discussions in the coffee shop, so I have no idea why you would feel a need to bully me. What are you bullying me about?

I said you looked like an Amish farmwife in her thirties. It made me laugh.

You thanked the Lord that someone like me didn’t teach your kid. That made me laugh, too.

I thought you considered that conversation bullying.

There are some really sexy Amish farmwifes ( in their 30s).

 

[ricechickie]

Let’s actually define bullying:

If a person is trying to end the interactions, and they other party refuses, it’s probably bullying.

If neither side refuses to quit because it’s important to “win” something, then both sides have some culpability.

That is not bullying. Words have meanings. The "bully" says or does things purposefully to get a negative reaction because they think it is fun or entertaining, like what you do in the flamer zone in order to get the approval of your fellow bullies. You would qualify as a bully according to the definition.

As would you.

So we are mutually bullying each other. But only one of us is bitching about it.

When have I bullied you? That is what I would like to know. I know I confronted you once about calling another poster a Nazi and told you that she is not a Nazi, she is a homemaker, and we have had some pleasant discussions in the coffee shop, so I have no idea why you would feel a need to bully me. What are you bullying me about?

I said you looked like an Amish farmwife in her thirties. It made me laugh.

You thanked the Lord that someone like me didn’t teach your kid. That made me laugh, too.

I thought you considered that conversation bullying.

There are some really sexy Amish farmwifes ( in their 30s).

I’ll take your word for it.

 

[JoeMoma]

I don't take anything said in the flame zone seriously. It kind of like when I call one of my best friends a sack of **** , and he calls me a %$#@ bag, it is not to be taken offensively because it is all in fun....not to be taken seriously. That's the flame zone.

 

[JoeMoma]

That is not bullying. Words have meanings. The "bully" says or does things purposefully to get a negative reaction because they think it is fun or entertaining, like what you do in the flamer zone in order to get the approval of your fellow bullies. You would qualify as a bully according to the definition.

As would you.

So we are mutually bullying each other. But only one of us is bitching about it.

When have I bullied you? That is what I would like to know. I know I confronted you once about calling another poster a Nazi and told you that she is not a Nazi, she is a homemaker, and we have had some pleasant discussions in the coffee shop, so I have no idea why you would feel a need to bully me. What are you bullying me about?

I said you looked like an Amish farmwife in her thirties. It made me laugh.

You thanked the Lord that someone like me didn’t teach your kid. That made me laugh, too.

I thought you considered that conversation bullying.

There are some really sexy Amish farmwifes ( in their 30s).

I’ll take your word for it.

No Amish porn for you then!

 

[Gracie]

"omg omg omg some anonymous person on the internet just said my butt was fat!!"
WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Oh come on. Words CAN hurt.

 

[ricechickie]

"omg omg omg some anonymous person on the internet just said my butt was fat!!"
WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Oh come on. Words CAN hurt.

And as soon as they do, online, you can cut off the source of the pain.

 

[Gracie]

so you are going to call on other posters to defend you or pile on?

Are you confused? This isn't the flame zone. I want to call other posters to get their opinions on the matter of bullying. Don't try to paint it is as if you are FORCED to bully someone.

My pc was sick yesterday so I had to take it to the pc doctor, lol. Just now catching up on what I missed.
Interesting topic, but its just food for the trolls, Chris, as you can see. They can smell it from down there....and it just brings them up here to defend their nasty behavior.
In answser to your question...when you can't "win" by defending yourself with truth and common sense...then you have to "leave", which is what I did. I cannot see the FZ and have been banned from ever returning there. What I can't see, can't hurt. And yes..I asked Admin to ban me. I kept wanting to find some sort of common ground, an inkling of humanity, so I kept going back. Or, I was called back by the @ button. They needed me, I guess, to make themselves feel better by bashing what meant most to me that I stupidly shared in other threads. To fix that problem of me not being able to resist defending myself or appealing to their better nature that they do not have....I had the staff ask the owner to manually ban me from that forum. And he did. I don't regret it one iota, but I am betting it pisses them off.

 

[Gracie]

"omg omg omg some anonymous person on the internet just said my butt was fat!!"
WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Oh come on. Words CAN hurt.

And as soon as they do, online, you can cut off the source of the pain.

See my post above. I did cut it off.

 

[ricechickie]

"omg omg omg some anonymous person on the internet just said my butt was fat!!"
WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Oh come on. Words CAN hurt.

And as soon as they do, online, you can cut off the source of the pain.

See my post above. I did cut it off.

Did that work?

 

[Gracie]

If you feel like you are getting "bullied" on the INTERNET, you have major problems. And its more than some butthead picking on you. ESPECIALLY if you are an adult.
Words are just words. Only YOU let them hurt you.
The internet is DIGITAL. Its not even spoken words!

The thing is today society live and dies with the internet...

For me trolling was part of the game when I started surfing boards back in the 90's but today cyber stalking and bullying is a different game.

Many childlren and younh adults live their lives in cyberspace and too much information about your personal life is out there for someone to use against you...

I am sure you believe it is the weak snowflakes that can not handle it but unlike the past you only dealt with the small community now you deal with the entire cyberspace and could get bullies from Tennessee picking on kids in Texas because of some picture that was altered just so someone life could be made into hell...

The internet is a blessing and a curse and too many people use this cyberspace to live through and not for it real intention to get information flowing...

So that is all I have to say about this... For now...

Cyber stalking is different than "bullying"
That isnt bullying, that is criminal.

I agree. That is taking bullying to the next level. I'm sure that a lot of bullies would use that information if it was readily available to them though. Don't put it past them.

That has already been done by some here. It was taken to real life.

 

[ricechickie]

I started a thread in the Flame Zone that asked when someone goes “too far” do they stop.

In general, it was agreed upon that if someone crosses the line, and they are told honestly that what they’re typing is hurtful, they would stop.

It’s when you try to give back as good as you got that things escalate.

I’ve had it happen to me (the hurtful stuff). I would try to put an end to it by actually ending it. I tried not to harp on the subject. I tried not to hold grudges by reminding everyone how so-and-so hurt me. Did I fail? Sometimes. But I don’t want to actually hurt someone with what’s meant to be funny banter. And if something truly bothers me, I don’t want to revisit the topic by milking some victimization.