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Snowflake, we already covered that the 1st time you posted this, several pages back. Give it a rest. You buy into the anti-Semite terrorist-supporters revisionist history. You like her. You support her. Good for you. Good luck with that.You are a lying weasel. Your OP deliberately left out the part where she called what happened to Jews horrific. You have refused to acknowledge that and ramble about inconsequential things.
LOL you claim everything is racist no matter what. Now you wanna complain about a terrorist supporting Jew hating member of congress getting called on her shit...... PLEASE.
If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.
Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.
You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.
God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.
What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????
1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?
"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.
Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty
2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money
1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)
3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.
I’m not discussing transactional exchanges and land acquisitions.
I speak strictly of the wars of conquest and the lands annexed or incorporated as a result. The Indian wars.
PS: you don’t need to have a concept of private property to protest the idea of being uprooted from your original land base/ forcibly made to move elsewhere.
They weren't 'uprooted,' you dunce.
They migrated from one place to another, and slaughtered any in their way.
"Many thousands of years before Christopher Columbus’ ships landed in the Bahamas, a different group of people discovered America: the nomadic ancestors of modern Native Americans who hiked over a “land bridge” from Asia to what is now Alaska more than 12,000 years ago. In fact, by the time European adventurers arrived in the 15th century A.D., scholars estimate that more than 50 million people were already living in the Americas. Of these, some 10 million lived in the area that would become the United States. As time passed, these migrants and their descendants ....."
https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/native-american-cultures
I bet some nice adult will help you get a library card......
BTW......Go Rangers!!!
It's funny how white people claim they 'discovered America'. We Native Americans already living here had no idea you people thought it was 'lost'. And 'OBTW', Leif Ericson and the Vikings had 'discovered' America (not the Bahamas) long before Chris landed there, enslaved most of the population and killed many more off with the introduction of their 'foreign' diseases'. (Personally I think 'Columbus Day' should be replaced with 'Leif Ericson Day - who would not rather run around drinking, 'raping, pillaging, and plundering' and wearing Viking horns?!)
There were no 'native' American.
My ancestors wandered over from Asia.
"killed many more off with the introduction of their 'foreign' diseases'."
The diseases were an accident of nature, as was the Bubonic Plague of Europe, which came from North Africa.
In neither case was it planned.
Well since she said it was the safe haven in Palestine which gave a comforting feeling, and not the Holocaust, which she described as "horrific" and a "tragedy," I would expect a Jew to comprehend her words in context. I was able to. I'm unable to explain why you can't.D-Tlaib:
"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust."
Welcome to the New Socialist Pro-Tertorist Anti-Semitic Democratic Party...
Rashida Tlaib slammed by House GOP over statement that Holocaust gives her 'kind of a calming feeling'
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Rep. Rashida Tlaib: Palestinians Created "Safe Haven" For Jews After Holocaust, Israel Took Their "Dignity"
Once again lies and character assassinations, by Right Wingers. The Truth will set them free, free from winning elections, passing racists and misogynist legislation, and corrupting the Constitution to meet their needs.
What are you talking about? Right wingers? A blanket statement, meaningless in itself, covering a multitude of half baked excuses and avoidance tactics.
And let me tell you: the three witches from Macbeth have been resurrected. In your Congress.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
"What are you talking about? Right wingers? A blanket statement, meaningless in itself, covering a multitude of half baked excuses and avoidance tactics."
Minful
Half-Truths and Lies by Omission are not meaningless, and the OP is a serial liar. Quoting out of context by leaving out the entire quote effects the meaning, and is dishonest and a very common practice used by the Right Wingers.
You tell me. As a Jew, how should I take her comment that the Holocaust gives her a calming feeling? Thanks.
Well since she said it was the safe haven in Palestine which gave a comforting feeling, and not the Holocaust, which she described as "horrific" and a "tragedy," I would expect a Jew to comprehend her words in context. I was able to. I'm unable to explain why you can't.D-Tlaib:
"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust."
Welcome to the New Socialist Pro-Tertorist Anti-Semitic Democratic Party...
Rashida Tlaib slammed by House GOP over statement that Holocaust gives her 'kind of a calming feeling'
.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib: Palestinians Created "Safe Haven" For Jews After Holocaust, Israel Took Their "Dignity"
Once again lies and character assassinations, by Right Wingers. The Truth will set them free, free from winning elections, passing racists and misogynist legislation, and corrupting the Constitution to meet their needs.
What are you talking about? Right wingers? A blanket statement, meaningless in itself, covering a multitude of half baked excuses and avoidance tactics.
And let me tell you: the three witches from Macbeth have been resurrected. In your Congress.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
"What are you talking about? Right wingers? A blanket statement, meaningless in itself, covering a multitude of half baked excuses and avoidance tactics."
Minful
Half-Truths and Lies by Omission are not meaningless, and the OP is a serial liar. Quoting out of context by leaving out the entire quote effects the meaning, and is dishonest and a very common practice used by the Right Wingers.
You tell me. As a Jew, how should I take her comment that the Holocaust gives her a calming feeling? Thanks.
Spoken like a true 'paleface'.Whether land was a coveted concept, thought of as a possession or not is immaterial. They lost vast territories as a consequence of losing wars to a technologically superior force.
White people have always justified taking what they wanted. Take 'Manifest Destiny', for example. We know what the WHITE PEOPLE claim that means., but all of us Native Americans know is just means, '...Because We want yo' sh!t!'
No, intermingling. They are an extinct people. They were actually Greek in origins, and were not Arabic."There are no Philistines. They are extinct."There are no Philistines. They are extinct.Jews live in Israel; Phillistines live in Gaza.....maybe give Gaza back to Egypt? West bankers can go back to Jordan. Losing wars have consequences.How many times do you have to be told, Sobieski?
Palestinian Jews were Jewish inhabitants of Palestine (known in Hebrew as Eretz Israel, the "Land of Israel") prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel.
Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?
People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.
Greg
The West Bank belongs to Israel. Anyone who wants to pretend they are a Fake Palestinian, a non existent and fictitious people can go to The East Banks which is Transjordan.
...or intermingled?
True that.
Greg
Nonsense, I'm of Catholic Polish roots, my great. great uncle was even a Catholic priest in Poland.
Why should I accept terrorist Israel, which massacres, and kicks Palestinians off their land.
Why should I support Israel which has harbored Commie Butchers, Rabbi Pedophiles, Organ Traffickers, and Russian Mafia thugs?
See, you SAY you are of Catholic Polish roots...then you turn around and spew the same Hamas / PLA anti-Israel / anti-Semitic indoctrination revisionist history and propaganda Tlaib obviously learned as a little Palestinian girl growing up...
Tlaib demonstrated she was raised to believe Amin al-Husseini, the spiritual leader of Jerusalem’s Muslims before World War II and one of the fathers of Palestinian nationalism, was some kind of hero, that he attempted to care out a safe haven for the Jews.
It is a tale the likes German revisionist historians tried to brainwash German kids with, teaching them the Holocaust never happened, and that Germany was never responsible for such an atrocity. Likewise, Tlaib was obviously raised being told an equally offensive lie, that al-Hussein attempted to prevent the attempted genocide of the Jews and that he and the Palestinians were repaid by the Jews with having their land and lives stolen...generating new generations of little Jew-hating Palestinian kids like Tlaib.
The TRUTH is that al-Hussein not only helped escalate violence in the Middle East, he participated in the oppression of the Jews in WWII. He helped recruit Muslims to fight for Hitler - they ended up playing a part in the destruction of Yugoslavian Jewry.
According to CNN Fact-Checkers, "In his Berlin radio speeches during the war, Husseini preached: “Kill the Jews wherever you find them—this pleases God, history and religion.” Such words would find a safe space in any Hamas lecture."
"Husseini personally, with the backing of Himmler, Eichmann, and other Nazis, intervened to stop the issuing of at least 400,000 visas to Jews trying to emigrate to British Palestine. Most of those Jews ended up in concentration camps rather than the “safe harbor” of Haifa.
In 1943, after hearing that some German allies were negotiating with the International Red Cross and others to transport thousands of Jewish children to Palestine to avoid death, he lobbied to prevent the rescue, pushing to have them sent to Poland to perish. Husseini was accused of war crimes by the Nuremberg tribunal. This hardly seems like a person offering a safe haven for Jews."
Funny, Tlaib - and you - seem to leave that out....
CNN vs. Rashida Tlaib: You're guilty of revisionist history about Palestinians and the Holocaust
You are a lying weasel. Your OP deliberately left out the part where she called what happened to Jews horrific. You have refused to acknowledge that and ramble about inconsequential things.
Just curious....HOW can you call anyone else out for 'lying' yet defend Tlaib for claiming the Palestinians were so hospitable and worked so hard to create a safe haven for the Jews, which is a complete fabrication of the truth - a lie even CNN called Tlaib on?What we are doing is calling out liars like you.
D-Tlaib:
"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust."
Welcome to the New Socialist Pro-Tertorist Anti-Semitic Democratic Party...
Rashida Tlaib slammed by House GOP over statement that Holocaust gives her 'kind of a calming feeling'
.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib: Palestinians Created "Safe Haven" For Jews After Holocaust, Israel Took Their "Dignity"
Once again lies and character assassinations, by Right Wingers. The Truth will set them free, free from winning elections, passing racists and misogynist legislation, and corrupting the Constitution to meet their needs.
Portraying them as the accommodating, aggrieved , party who courtesies were not reciprocated is absolute lunacy.
Have you walked in their shoes? The LIE is in the title to this thread, a lie by omission. That aside, maybe a little history may give the reader some perspective:
https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/balfour-declaration
Oh; Balfour again. Yawn.
Do you really think her statement said that the holocaust gives her a calming feeling?Excellent, another fine example of your inability to comprehend or your willingness to lie and spin. Well done ya douche!D-Tlaib:
"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust."
Welcome to the New Socialist Pro-Tertorist Anti-Semitic Democratic Party...
Rashida Tlaib slammed by House GOP over statement that Holocaust gives her 'kind of a calming feeling'
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Were are the lies?
Is Tlaib a Democrat?
Is she an anti-Semite?
The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.
Who did????
The stone-age savages made the land barren.
They were simply savages.
These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.
American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100
"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44Who did????
The stone-age savages made the land barren.
They were simply savages.
These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.
American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100
"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44
Thanks Miss.
But I’m more curious to know which race or community of humans they conquered to take possession of the hemisphere.
Not how many trees they cut down.
I'll say it again....verrrrrryyyy sloooooowly:
The Indians moved from Asia via what was then a land bridge.
They were settlers to this continent as were the Europeans.
Hence...not 'native.'
They destroyed resources, burned down forests to more easily see their prey....and then moved on to another venue.
Land was not a 'possession' to Indians.....until the Europeans brought capitalism, and taught them the value of the land.
They were three thousand years behind the Europeans in understanding.
Get it?
Whether land was a coveted concept, thought of as a possession or not is immaterial.
They lost vast territories as a consequence of losing wars to a technologically superior force.
My point is this: If tomorrow they had the means or military might to redress and recoup the lands they conceded in the wars lost (not lands which were sold) in the 19th century....they are morally justified to do so.
Same as the Jews in Palestine being justified to do what they did in 1948. The Nakba is a hoax.
OMG!!!!
How could they 'lose' what they never owned????????
On the other hand....you are perfectly correct about Jews and the Nakba.
The two situations are not comparable.....the Jews bought the land.
The Jews did not buy all of the lands they currently own- or what was to be apportioned to them as part of the British Mandate.
Just look at the map of the partition plan in 1947 and then compare it to the Israeli map at the point of then 1949 Armistice.
The Jews should’ve taken all of it- not because they bought it. But because as Jews they have the legitimate rights as indigenous peoples to the land of Israel. From the river to the sea.
Enough of the pathetic defense of this anti-Semitic terrorist-supporting revisionist historian.
Tlaib attempted to sell a truckload of make-believe bullshit.
Not only was everything she said historically inaccurate, the claim that the Palestinians sacrificed in the name of attempting to create a safe haven for the Jews was a lie. Palestinian leaders actually sided with Hitler and had an historic hand in the attempted genocide of the Jews.
There is no defense of this. Even liberal news media CNN blasted Tlaib for her anti-Semitic revisionist history!
And despite this, after inviting an anti-Semitic Muslim to give an opening prayer, Pelosi - and Hoyer - demanded the President apologize to Tlaib.
After giving such an insane account of revisionist history, Tlaib should apologize to the entire world.
Once again, the Democrats have demonstrated to the world that they continue to embrace growing alarming anti-Semitism.
D-Tlaib:
"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust."
Welcome to the New Socialist Pro-Tertorist Anti-Semitic Democratic Party...
Rashida Tlaib slammed by House GOP over statement that Holocaust gives her 'kind of a calming feeling'
.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib: Palestinians Created "Safe Haven" For Jews After Holocaust, Israel Took Their "Dignity"
Once again lies and character assassinations, by Right Wingers. The Truth will set them free, free from winning elections, passing racists and misogynist legislation, and corrupting the Constitution to meet their needs.
Portraying them as the accommodating, aggrieved , party who courtesies were not reciprocated is absolute lunacy.
Have you walked in their shoes? The LIE is in the title to this thread, a lie by omission. That aside, maybe a little history may give the reader some perspective:
https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/balfour-declaration
Oh; Balfour again. Yawn.
The Abrahamic Covenant.
You gonna Yawn at that?
Israel's very existence is proof there is a God.
Snowflake, we already covered that the 1st time you posted this, several pages back. Give it a rest. You buy into the anti-Semite terrorist-supporters revisionist history. You like her. You support her. Good for you. Good luck with that.You are a lying weasel. Your OP deliberately left out the part where she called what happened to Jews horrific. You have refused to acknowledge that and ramble about inconsequential things.
Enough of the pathetic defense of this anti-Semitic terrorist-supporting revisionist historian.
Tlaib attempted to sell a truckload of make-believe bullshit.
Not only was everything she said historically inaccurate, the claim that the Palestinians sacrificed in the name of attempting to create a safe haven for the Jews was a lie. Palestinian leaders actually sided with Hitler and had an historic hand in the attempted genocide of the Jews.
There is no defense of this. Even liberal news media CNN blasted Tlaib for her anti-Semitic revisionist history!
And despite this, after inviting an anti-Semitic Muslim to give an opening prayer, Pelosi - and Hoyer - demanded the President apologize to Tlaib.
After giving such an insane account of revisionist history, Tlaib should apologize to the entire world.
Once again, the Democrats have demonstrated to the world that they continue to embrace growing alarming anti-Semitism.
There should be a apology. The fact is that you and Trump are liars. You made a false accusation against her by taking her words out of context. To you anyone who questions the crooked Netanyahu is a anti-Semite. You have every right to disagree with Netanyahu.
I agree. Tlaib can apologize any time she wants for that vile revisionist piece of history for which she - a liberal - actually earned the rare rebuke from CNN.There should be a apology.
Thanks Miss.
But I’m more curious to know which race or community of humans they conquered to take possession of the hemisphere.
Not how many trees they cut down.
I'll say it again....verrrrrryyyy sloooooowly:
The Indians moved from Asia via what was then a land bridge.
They were settlers to this continent as were the Europeans.
Hence...not 'native.'
They destroyed resources, burned down forests to more easily see their prey....and then moved on to another venue.
Land was not a 'possession' to Indians.....until the Europeans brought capitalism, and taught them the value of the land.
They were three thousand years behind the Europeans in understanding.
Get it?
Whether land was a coveted concept, thought of as a possession or not is immaterial.
They lost vast territories as a consequence of losing wars to a technologically superior force.
My point is this: If tomorrow they had the means or military might to redress and recoup the lands they conceded in the wars lost (not lands which were sold) in the 19th century....they are morally justified to do so.
Same as the Jews in Palestine being justified to do what they did in 1948. The Nakba is a hoax.
OMG!!!!
How could they 'lose' what they never owned????????
On the other hand....you are perfectly correct about Jews and the Nakba.
The two situations are not comparable.....the Jews bought the land.
The Jews did not buy all of the lands they currently own- or what was to be apportioned to them as part of the British Mandate.
Just look at the map of the partition plan in 1947 and then compare it to the Israeli map at the point of then 1949 Armistice.
The Jews should’ve taken all of it- not because they bought it. But because as Jews they have the legitimate rights as indigenous peoples to the land of Israel. From the river to the sea.
Let's check:
One would expect to see commonplace examples of Jews stealing, strong-arming, swindling, blackmailing; basically resorting to any trick up their sleeve to pry land out of Arab hands. In reality, the Jewish technique of accumulating land was simple ... they bought it. Both the concern and the complaints of Jews dispossessing Arabs centered on how much land the Jews were purchasing, not stealing, from land owners:
- The British investigation into the Arab riots during 1936-39 identifies "Arab alarm at the continued Jewish purchase of land"1, not Jewish theft of land, as one of the motivating factors.
- "Conversely, the main Ottoman and Arab complaint against the Zionists was about land sales..."2
- "Meanwhile, Jewish land purchase continued apace, exacerbating Palestinian disquiet."3
- "Arab discontent on account of Jewish immigration and the sale of lands to Jews which has been a permanent feature of political opinion in Palestine for the past ten years, began to show signs of renewed activity from the beginning of 1933, developing in intensity until it reached a climax in the riots of October and November."4
- "In the beginning of the 1930s, the national value of the land and its transfer from one people to the other became one of the main issues in the political conflict between the two communities. The Arabs insisted that His Majesty's Government put an end to land purchase by the Jews, claiming that it threatened their national existence."5
6
- "Though they had profited from the enhanced trade and employment opportunities generated by the new Jewish settlements, Palestinian Arabs had grown increasingly concerned about the rise of Jewish immigration and land purchases."
7
- "An article published in July 1911 by Mustafa Effendi Tamr, a teacher of mathematics at a Jerusalem school" reads, "You are selling the property of your fathers and grandfathers for a pittance to people who will have no pity on you, to those who will act to expel you and expunge your memory from your habitations and disperse you among the nations. This is a crime that will be recorded in your names in history, a black stain and disgrace that your descendants will bear, which will not be expunged even after years and eras have gone by. ... Opposition to land sales was one of the principal focal points around which the Arab national idea in Palestine coalesced."
32
- "Of course, the Zionists bought the land from Arab landholders, who moved to cities or even left the country. They were all too willing to sell, for the price paid by the purchasers was often many times more than anyone else would or could pay."
8
- King Abdallah of Jordan complains several times in his memoirs about Jews acquiring land in Palestine. Not once does he accuse the Jews of stealing it from the Arabs. Each time he mentions it, the complaint is how much land they are buying:
- "... the fears of the Arab political leaders are supported by the fact that the sale of land continues unrestricted and every day one piece of land after another is torn from the hands of the Arabs.
9
- "According to my information the Jews have requested the continuance of the mandate so that they can buy up more land and bring in additional immigrants. No other country has gone through such a trial as Palestine."
10
- "Or are you among those who believe that there is no harm in continuing the present deleterious mandate despite the Jewish usurpers it has brought and despite the demonstrated inability of those Palestinians now at the political helm to prevent their compatriots from selling their land? Furthermore, it is made quite clear to all, both by the map drawn up by the Simpson Commission and by another compiled by the Peel Commission, that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land as they are in useless wailing and weeping."
- "‘Know each of you that in the end every Arab who sells land of the Arab patrimony or who pimps for the Jews will soon receive his due, which is certain death.’ The placards were signed by an organization calling itself ‘Revenge.’ ‘Our problem is the outcome of the sale of our land. The amazing thing is that we sell to the Jews and then scream and wail and ask for the government’s help,’"11
- "The land policy of the Zionist movement in the pre-state era was based on purchase of land on the open market by Jewish institutions (mainly the JNF) and subsequent freezing of the ownership so as to ensure that the purchased land would be in Jewish hands in perpetuity."33
Not only was the land being legally purchased, it was being purchased at drastically inflated prices. Arab land owners were making a killing selling their land during the waves of Jewish immigration in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Despite the animosity against selling land to Jews coming from elitist Arabs, it simply made good economic sense for landlords to sell while they could exploit the thriving market Jewish demand was creating. Sometimes the land being purchased was nothing more than sand dune, malarial swamps and marshes, or other unattractive plots of waste. Even so, it was payday for many landlords; a day many hadn't seen in a long time and one that wouldn't come again:
- "Until 1936 ... the Jews acquired about 25,000 dunam in the Beit-Shean Valley ... The soil was of the poorest quality, in scattered parcels of land, and it was impossible to establish even one settlement on it. The Jewish purchasers paid the full price for these lands; in addition the Government compelled them to cover all the outstanding debts that the sellers had accumulated. (In most cases not one penny of these bad debts had been paid for years.)"12
- "The Jewish authorities have nothing with which to reproach themselves in the matter of the Sursock lands. They paid high prices for the land, and in addition they paid to certain of the occupants of those lands a considerable amount of money which they were not legally bound to pay."13
- "He [the Arab] may sell his land for a fantastic price and add to the congestion in the other zones by moving there. An Arab living a short distance away, just across the zone boundary, cannot obtain anything approximating the same sum for land of equal quality.”14
- "The Jews were paying exorbitant prices to wealthy landowners for small tracts of arid land. “In 1944, Jews paid between $1,000 and $1,100 per acre in Palestine, mostly for arid or semiarid land; in the same year, rich black soil in Iowa was selling for about $110 per acre."15
- "The settlers were ready to pay much more than the economic value of the land. The same or better land is available a few kilometers to the east or north of the Palestine frontiers at one tenth or less of the Palestinian price."16
- “Between 1880 and 1914 over sixty thousand Jews entered Palestine … Many settled on wasteland, sand-dunes and malarial marsh, which they then drained, irrigated and farmed. In 1909 a group of Jews founded the first entirely Jewish town, Tel Aviv, on the sandhills north of Jaffa. The Jews purchased their land piecemeal, from European, Turkish and (principally) Arab landlords, mostly at extremely high prices.”17
- “By 1925 over 2,600 Jews had settled in the [Jezreel] valley, and 3,000 acres of barren hillside had been afforested. This previously uncultivated land, bought at highly inflated prices, became the pattern of all subsequent Jewish National Fund settlements in Palestine.”18
- "In his 'note of reservations' to the Report of the Woodhead Commission, Sir Alison Russel says: 'It does not appear to me that to permit an Arab to sell his land for three or four times its value, and to go with the money to a different part of the Arab world where land is cheap, can be said to "prejudice" his rights and position.'"19
- "The average price paid by Jews for the rural land they bought in Palestine during 1944 amounted to over $1000 per acre or about $250 per dunam (including the value of buildings, orchards and other improvements). These prices are, of course, highly inflated …"20
- "... land brokers sometimes purchased their shares or parcels at a very low price and sold them at ten and twenty multiples to Jewish buyers. Peasants who were in musha' villages were particularly incensed at landlords, land brokers, or agents after learning that they had been swindled."21
Footnotes:
- "Aharon Danin of KKL told of an interesting conversation he had at the beginning of the 1940s with Khaled Zu’bi (brother of Sayf al-Din), who helped him buy land in the Zu’biyya villages east of Nazareth: He [Zu’bi] said, ‘Look, who knows better than me that your work is pure. You pay money for everything, top dollar, many times more than what the land is worth. But that doesn’t change the fact that you are dispossessing us. You are dispossessing us with money, not by force, but the fact is that we are leaving the land.’ I say to him: ‘You are from this Zu’biyya tribe which is located here, in Transjordan, and in Syria, what difference does it make to you where you are, if you are here or if you and your family are there? …’ He said: ‘It’s hard for me to tell you, but in any case the graves of my forefathers are here. I feel that we are leaving this place. It’s our fault and not yours.’"30
1 Great Britain, and William Robert Wellesley Peel Peel. Palestine Royal Commission Report. London: H.M. Stationery Office, 1937.
2 Western Imperialism in the Middle East 1914 - 1958 by D. K. Fieldhouse, Pg. 125
3 Palestine and Israel: The Uprising and Beyond by David McDowall, Pg. 23
4 Report by His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to the Council of the League of Nations of the Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan, 31 December 1933
5 "The Tenants of Wadi Hawarith: Another View of the Land Question in Palestine" by Raya Adler,International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 20, No. 2. (May, 1988), pg. 199.
6 Oren, Michael. Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East, 1776 to the PresentPg. 368
7 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 45
8 King Abdallah of Jordan, My Memoirs Completed (Al-Takmilah), Pg. 81. In a letter written to the High Commissioner for Transjordan, Sir Arthur Wauchope on July 25, 1934.
9 King Abdallah of Jordan, My Memoirs Completed (Al-Takmilah), Pg. 88. In a letter written to 'Abd al-Hamid Sa'id on June 5, 1938.
10 King Abdallah of Jordan, My Memoirs Completed (Al-Takmilah), Pp. 88-89. In a letter written to 'Abd al-Hamid Sa'id on June 5, 1938.
11 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 219-220.
12 Avneri, Aryeh L. The Claim of Dispossession: Jewish Land-Settlement and the Arabs 1878-1948. Efal, Israel: Yad Tabenkin, 1982. 168.
13 Hope Simpson Report, Pg. 51
14 Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, Chapter I
15 Bard, Mitchell G. Myths and Facts: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict. 2006. 19.
16 Jewish Colonisataion and Arab Development in Palestine by David Horowitz, Central Zionist Archives, Record Group S90/File 76, 7 October 1945
17 Gilbert, Martin, and Martin Gilbert. The Routledge Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict. London: Routledge, 2002. 3.
18 Gilbert, Martin, and Martin Gilbert. The Routledge Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict. London: Routledge, 2002. 12.
19 Schechtman, Joseph B. Population Transfers in Asia. New York: Hallsby Press, 1949. 101
20 Schechtman, Joseph B. Population Transfers in Asia. New York: Hallsby Press, 1949. 112
21 Stein, Kenneth W. One Hundred Years of Social Change: The Creation of the Palestinian Refugee Problem. 1991.
22 Stein, Kenneth W. One Hundred Years of Social Change: The Creation of the Palestinian Refugee Problem. 1991.
23 Report by His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to the Council of the League of Nations of the Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan, 31 December 1933
24 The Tenants of Wadi Hawarith: Another View of the Land Question in Palestine by Raya Adler,International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 20, No. 2. (May, 1988), pg. 197.
25 The Tenants of Wadi Hawarith: Another View of the Land Question in Palestine by Raya Adler,International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 20, No. 2. (May, 1988), pg. 215.
26 Morris, Benny. 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War. New Haven [Conn.]: Yale University Press, 2008 14
27 Morris, Benny. 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War. New Haven [Conn.]: Yale University Press, 2008 83
28 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 225.
29 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 173.
30 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 200.
Middle East Piece - Jewish Land Purchase and Dispossession
