Democrat .. No Free Speech Zones

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

Free speech is not the ability to talk where you like when you like.

So, if you and your other half are doing it in the bedroom and you stop me reading from Shakespeare, is this preventing free speech? NO.

Trump isn't being prevented from saying what he wants at all. He choose to cancel his speech but he still made it somewhere else.

So, stop talking nonsense.

Sheesh, that was weak, would you like to try again?

Nope. I'll stand by it regardless of whether you think it's weak or not. Would you like to respond to my comments or just make silly ass statements that don't do anything but avoid the topic WHICH YOU STARTED?

A candidate should be allowed to hold their own peaceful rally in the building and forum of their choosing, without having a group of disruptive demonstrators feeling the need to make a scene in order to silence the opposition. Those who support it likewise don't find anything wrong with a Congressman yelling "You lie!" In the middle of a Presidential address. It is, after all, also considered free speech according to the Constitution. Right?

A candidate should be able to speak. However Trump make the decision not to speak there.

If people wish to protest, why shouldn't they be allowed to protest? Violent protesting is a different matter, and I think you'll find most people don't agree with that.

However, at no point was Trump being prevented from saying what he wanted to say. He said what he wanted to say. So... how can anyone complain his freedom of speech has been curtailed?

If a group wanted to protest the views of a candidate, they can do so peacefully outside the event. What reason could demonstrators possibly have or gain by planning to infiltrate a crowd of a political opponent, except to entice a confrontation with those supporters and disrupt, or otherwise shut down the candidate's political rally. is it any surprise that liberals don't like being confronted with an opposing view, otherwise they'd have more of a respect for an opposing point of view. Just look at the example they have in the White House, the apple really doesn't fall far from the tree, all while none of the democrat candidates are vocally opposing that any of their supporters place themselves in a position of confrontation at any Trump rally.

 

[kaz]

Where in the Constitution does it say leftists can freely assault people they disagree with? I can't find that part

This is an argument that has nothing to do with what has been said.

I don't agree with people using violence, however he still didn't have his freedom of speech violated no matter how much you abhor the use of violence in the way that it happened.

It's like saying that you're freedom of speech has been taken away because someone stole your bagel.

Stole your bagel? WTF? The choice of speaking under attack of violent leftist assaults or having to cancel the event isn't violating your right to speak freely. Got it. It's like saying you can't speak "because someone stole your bagel." Wow, just wow

 

[kaz]

Ya'll should read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment is about the government doing it. It is not a violation of Free Speech to tell stupid ass Trump supporters that they are stupid ass Trump supporters. Heck, it's not a violation of Free Speech to yell it during his rallies. It's also not a violation of Free Speech to have the yeller removed. See how that works?

Sorry, douche bag, but using violence and intimidation to stop someone from speaking is a violation of free speech. I know Stalinists like you don't want to admit what you are, but you've all made that quite obvious by defending the thugs in Shitcago.

Who said anything about using violence? When did I defend what happened in Chicago? My support for their protest ends if they are the first to resort to violence.

So it's ended then?

My support for the Chicago protesters that resorted to violence did. My support of the Donald protesters that don't resort to violence has not.

So you support a group that doesn't exist and use that as a canard to support a group that does exist that you say you don't support ...

 

[Moonglow]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

Your place......in the middle of the night...

 

[Seawytch]

Ya'll should read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment is about the government doing it. It is not a violation of Free Speech to tell stupid ass Trump supporters that they are stupid ass Trump supporters. Heck, it's not a violation of Free Speech to yell it during his rallies. It's also not a violation of Free Speech to have the yeller removed. See how that works?

Sorry, douche bag, but using violence and intimidation to stop someone from speaking is a violation of free speech. I know Stalinists like you don't want to admit what you are, but you've all made that quite obvious by defending the thugs in Shitcago.

Who said anything about using violence? When did I defend what happened in Chicago? My support for their protest ends if they are the first to resort to violence.

So it's ended then?

My support for the Chicago protesters that resorted to violence did. My support of the Donald protesters that don't resort to violence has not.

So you support a group that doesn't exist and use that as a canard to support a group that does exist that you say you don't support ...

I support protesters that don't resort to violence. There are plenty of those.

What there don't seem to be are reasonable Trump supporters.

Anti Trump Protester Punched and Kicked in Tuscon

 

[jon_berzerk]

yeah right now fuckhead they are trying to stop people from

attending a trump rally in Az by blocking the highway

not only against free speech

but free association

and freely travel

what a bunch of evil tyrants the leftists are

Are you using insults as an argument? I didn't get past the insult.

yeah plug your ears and go lalalalalalalalala real loud ya dope

You're attacking me, then when I point out you're attacking me, your response is to act like a child.

Is this who you imagined you'd be when you were a child? Seriously?

Look dude, I'll make it plain and simple. Either you debate properly or I'll stick you on ignore. I don't care either way, you tell me how it's going to be here and then I'll act accordingly.

i dont give a rats ass if you stick me on ignore


i am quite sure you do not want to come to the fact that the leftists are a bunch of anti freedom fascists

with the behavior they are demonstrating

FRIGIDWIERDO has a lot of people on ignore. That's what happens to you if you don't accept all his basic premises.

yes

the most radical fascists do

 

[kaz]

Sorry, douche bag, but using violence and intimidation to stop someone from speaking is a violation of free speech. I know Stalinists like you don't want to admit what you are, but you've all made that quite obvious by defending the thugs in Shitcago.

Who said anything about using violence? When did I defend what happened in Chicago? My support for their protest ends if they are the first to resort to violence.

So it's ended then?

My support for the Chicago protesters that resorted to violence did. My support of the Donald protesters that don't resort to violence has not.

So you support a group that doesn't exist and use that as a canard to support a group that does exist that you say you don't support ...

I support protesters that don't resort to violence. There are plenty of those.

What there don't seem to be are reasonable Trump supporters.

Anti Trump Protester Punched and Kicked in Tuscon

Strawman. I said there are no non violent Trump demonstrators, I didn't say there are no non-violent demonstrators in general. Your reading skills are awful

 

[Seawytch]

Who said anything about using violence? When did I defend what happened in Chicago? My support for their protest ends if they are the first to resort to violence.

So it's ended then?

My support for the Chicago protesters that resorted to violence did. My support of the Donald protesters that don't resort to violence has not.

So you support a group that doesn't exist and use that as a canard to support a group that does exist that you say you don't support ...

I support protesters that don't resort to violence. There are plenty of those.

What there don't seem to be are reasonable Trump supporters.

Anti Trump Protester Punched and Kicked in Tuscon

Strawman. I said there are no non violent Trump demonstrators, I didn't say there are no non-violent demonstrators in general. Your reading skills are awful

There are plenty of non violent Trump protesters as well. If you weren't such a partisan hack you'd know that.

 

[kaz]

So it's ended then?

My support for the Chicago protesters that resorted to violence did. My support of the Donald protesters that don't resort to violence has not.

So you support a group that doesn't exist and use that as a canard to support a group that does exist that you say you don't support ...

I support protesters that don't resort to violence. There are plenty of those.

What there don't seem to be are reasonable Trump supporters.

Anti Trump Protester Punched and Kicked in Tuscon

Strawman. I said there are no non violent Trump demonstrators, I didn't say there are no non-violent demonstrators in general. Your reading skills are awful

There are plenty of non violent Trump protesters as well. If you weren't such a partisan hack you'd know that.

LMAO, partisan, another word you don't know the meaning of. Don't you want better for the next generation than the government schools that gave you a diploma without an education?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

My support for the Chicago protesters that resorted to violence did. My support of the Donald protesters that don't resort to violence has not.

So you support a group that doesn't exist and use that as a canard to support a group that does exist that you say you don't support ...

I support protesters that don't resort to violence. There are plenty of those.

What there don't seem to be are reasonable Trump supporters.

Anti Trump Protester Punched and Kicked in Tuscon

Strawman. I said there are no non violent Trump demonstrators, I didn't say there are no non-violent demonstrators in general. Your reading skills are awful

There are plenty of non violent Trump protesters as well. If you weren't such a partisan hack you'd know that.

LMAO, partisan, another word you don't know the meaning of. Don't you want better for the next generation than the government schools that gave you a diploma without an education?

Choice and competition is just a mere bumper sticker slogan they used for Obamacare, they don't seriously expect to allow government to support an option for the Anerican people like teducation. It's all about government control and mandates.

 

[Lumpy 1]

A candidate should be allowed to hold their own peaceful rally in the building and forum of their choosing, without having a group of disruptive demonstrators feeling the need to make a scene in order to silence the opposition. Those who support it likewise don't find anything wrong with a Congressman yelling "You lie!" In the middle of a Presidential address. It is, after all, also considered free speech according to the Constitution. Right?

A candidate should be able to speak. However Trump make the decision not to speak there.

If people wish to protest, why shouldn't they be allowed to protest? Violent protesting is a different matter, and I think you'll find most people don't agree with that.

However, at no point was Trump being prevented from saying what he wanted to say. He said what he wanted to say. So... how can anyone complain his freedom of speech has been curtailed?

Your hate has swallowed your reasoning abilities making you a fool...no problem though, you're hardly alone and your hypocrisy of thought will be revealed at a later time.

Well, you've just made an attack, and nothing else. I'll just ignore your waste of time.

You should try not repeating the same lack of reasoned crap constantly, the problem is you and your inability to absorb common sense responses.

Another attack???? Maybe you should stick to the topic instead of trying to get on my ignore list.

Eh, put me on ignore, you're just a waste of my time anyway.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Do they? Can you prove this?

yeah right now fuckhead they are trying to stop people from

attending a trump rally in Az by blocking the highway

not only against free speech

but free association

and freely travel

what a bunch of evil tyrants the leftists are

Are you using insults as an argument? I didn't get past the insult.

yeah plug your ears and go lalalalalalalalala real loud ya dope

You're attacking me, then when I point out you're attacking me, your response is to act like a child.

Is this who you imagined you'd be when you were a child? Seriously?

Look dude, I'll make it plain and simple. Either you debate properly or I'll stick you on ignore. I don't care either way, you tell me how it's going to be here and then I'll act accordingly.

i dont give a rats ass if you stick me on ignore


i am quite sure you do not want to come to the fact that the leftists are a bunch of anti freedom fascists

with the behavior they are demonstrating

Why are you "quite sure"? Because you think you know me? You don't know me other than what you decide I have said rather than what I do say.

There are those on the left and the right who wish to restrict people's freedom of speech. That doesn't mean "the leftists" are against free speech, it means some are, the same as on the right.

I certainly am not part of any gang. I don't back people up who I think are wrong, no matter how much YOU think I'm a part of some group or other.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Free speech is not the ability to talk where you like when you like.

So, if you and your other half are doing it in the bedroom and you stop me reading from Shakespeare, is this preventing free speech? NO.

Trump isn't being prevented from saying what he wants at all. He choose to cancel his speech but he still made it somewhere else.

So, stop talking nonsense.

Sheesh, that was weak, would you like to try again?

Nope. I'll stand by it regardless of whether you think it's weak or not. Would you like to respond to my comments or just make silly ass statements that don't do anything but avoid the topic WHICH YOU STARTED?

A candidate should be allowed to hold their own peaceful rally in the building and forum of their choosing, without having a group of disruptive demonstrators feeling the need to make a scene in order to silence the opposition. Those who support it likewise don't find anything wrong with a Congressman yelling "You lie!" In the middle of a Presidential address. It is, after all, also considered free speech according to the Constitution. Right?

A candidate should be able to speak. However Trump make the decision not to speak there.

If people wish to protest, why shouldn't they be allowed to protest? Violent protesting is a different matter, and I think you'll find most people don't agree with that.

However, at no point was Trump being prevented from saying what he wanted to say. He said what he wanted to say. So... how can anyone complain his freedom of speech has been curtailed?

If a group wanted to protest the views of a candidate, they can do so peacefully outside the event. What reason could demonstrators possibly have or gain by planning to infiltrate a crowd of a political opponent, except to entice a confrontation with those supporters and disrupt, or otherwise shut down the candidate's political rally. is it any surprise that liberals don't like being confronted with an opposing view, otherwise they'd have more of a respect for an opposing point of view. Just look at the example they have in the White House, the apple really doesn't fall far from the tree, all while none of the democrat candidates are vocally opposing that any of their supporters place themselves in a position of confrontation at any Trump rally.

Okay, they should protest peacefully. But they know they'll get more attention, more publicity, if they protest violently.

Trump does stuff to attract attention, and people lord him for it. But then others do it and people hate them.

However that still doesn't mean that they're taking away Trump's freedom of speech.

 

[frigidweirdo]

A candidate should be able to speak. However Trump make the decision not to speak there.

If people wish to protest, why shouldn't they be allowed to protest? Violent protesting is a different matter, and I think you'll find most people don't agree with that.

However, at no point was Trump being prevented from saying what he wanted to say. He said what he wanted to say. So... how can anyone complain his freedom of speech has been curtailed?

Your hate has swallowed your reasoning abilities making you a fool...no problem though, you're hardly alone and your hypocrisy of thought will be revealed at a later time.

Well, you've just made an attack, and nothing else. I'll just ignore your waste of time.

You should try not repeating the same lack of reasoned crap constantly, the problem is you and your inability to absorb common sense responses.

Another attack???? Maybe you should stick to the topic instead of trying to get on my ignore list.

Eh, put me on ignore, you're just a waste of my time anyway.

Fine.

But the last word is this.

If you make a thread, and then you don't like people actually debating your thread, what the hell are you?

 

[Lumpy 1]

Your hate has swallowed your reasoning abilities making you a fool...no problem though, you're hardly alone and your hypocrisy of thought will be revealed at a later time.

Well, you've just made an attack, and nothing else. I'll just ignore your waste of time.

You should try not repeating the same lack of reasoned crap constantly, the problem is you and your inability to absorb common sense responses.

Another attack???? Maybe you should stick to the topic instead of trying to get on my ignore list.

Eh, put me on ignore, you're just a waste of my time anyway.

Fine.

But the last word is this.

If you make a thread, and then you don't like people actually debating your thread, what the hell are you?

Debates when two members are willing to see the other perspective, not stick in the mud and repeat the same argument. Obviously you and I will never agree so it's either accept the obvious or just move along. Also, I'm not big on silly threats, I think you should take some time and consider the reasons people post in the first place.

 

[Seawytch]

My support for the Chicago protesters that resorted to violence did. My support of the Donald protesters that don't resort to violence has not.

So you support a group that doesn't exist and use that as a canard to support a group that does exist that you say you don't support ...

I support protesters that don't resort to violence. There are plenty of those.

What there don't seem to be are reasonable Trump supporters.

Anti Trump Protester Punched and Kicked in Tuscon

Strawman. I said there are no non violent Trump demonstrators, I didn't say there are no non-violent demonstrators in general. Your reading skills are awful

There are plenty of non violent Trump protesters as well. If you weren't such a partisan hack you'd know that.

LMAO, partisan, another word you don't know the meaning of. Don't you want better for the next generation than the government schools that gave you a diploma without an education?

Sure I do...I looked it up. Described you to a "T". You look at the Democrats and see a forest. You look at Republicans and see the individual trees. That's the epitome of a partisan.

There has only been one case of anti Trump demonstrators "throwing the first punch", but anti Trump protesters getting beat up at Trump rallies has just become part of his show.

 

[jon_berzerk]

yeah right now fuckhead they are trying to stop people from

attending a trump rally in Az by blocking the highway

not only against free speech

but free association

and freely travel

what a bunch of evil tyrants the leftists are

Are you using insults as an argument? I didn't get past the insult.

yeah plug your ears and go lalalalalalalalala real loud ya dope

You're attacking me, then when I point out you're attacking me, your response is to act like a child.

Is this who you imagined you'd be when you were a child? Seriously?

Look dude, I'll make it plain and simple. Either you debate properly or I'll stick you on ignore. I don't care either way, you tell me how it's going to be here and then I'll act accordingly.

i dont give a rats ass if you stick me on ignore


i am quite sure you do not want to come to the fact that the leftists are a bunch of anti freedom fascists

with the behavior they are demonstrating

Why are you "quite sure"? Because you think you know me? You don't know me other than what you decide I have said rather than what I do say.

There are those on the left and the right who wish to restrict people's freedom of speech. That doesn't mean "the leftists" are against free speech, it means some are, the same as on the right.

I certainly am not part of any gang. I don't back people up who I think are wrong, no matter how much YOU think I'm a part of some group or other.

thought you are putting me on ignore asswipe

 

[TNHarley]

It isnt violating his free speech. I think is nothing more than typical American intolerance. A bunch of goddamn bigots, if you will

 

[Lumpy 1]

Are you using insults as an argument? I didn't get past the insult.

yeah plug your ears and go lalalalalalalalala real loud ya dope

You're attacking me, then when I point out you're attacking me, your response is to act like a child.

Is this who you imagined you'd be when you were a child? Seriously?

Look dude, I'll make it plain and simple. Either you debate properly or I'll stick you on ignore. I don't care either way, you tell me how it's going to be here and then I'll act accordingly.

i dont give a rats ass if you stick me on ignore


i am quite sure you do not want to come to the fact that the leftists are a bunch of anti freedom fascists

with the behavior they are demonstrating

Why are you "quite sure"? Because you think you know me? You don't know me other than what you decide I have said rather than what I do say.

There are those on the left and the right who wish to restrict people's freedom of speech. That doesn't mean "the leftists" are against free speech, it means some are, the same as on the right.

I certainly am not part of any gang. I don't back people up who I think are wrong, no matter how much YOU think I'm a part of some group or other.

thought you are putting me on ignore asswipe

I have a feeling it's only if he gets the last word...

 

[TNHarley]

I dont get why Americans are calling him a bigot when THEY are the ones he is ROOTING for. I get one not liking him, but damn. Why would you call him a bigot when he is fighting for YOU?