Democrat .. No Free Speech Zones

[nat4900]

What did he sew?

A nice Trump-sweater???? (and its "beautiful", like the wall.) LOL

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

Free speech is not the ability to talk where you like when you like.

So, if you and your other half are doing it in the bedroom and you stop me reading from Shakespeare, is this preventing free speech? NO.

Trump isn't being prevented from saying what he wants at all. He choose to cancel his speech but he still made it somewhere else.

So, stop talking nonsense.

Exactly.

The doctrine of free speech and First Amendment jurisprudence applies solely to the relationship between government and those governed, not between and among private persons and organizations.

One private person cannot 'violate' the free speech rights of another private person.

Should a given government entity attempt to preempt Trump's speech through force of law inconsistent with First Amendment jurisprudence, then a free speech violation would have occurred.

I'll disagree to a point.

The US Constitutional protection is between the govt and the governed.

However when it comes to rights, a right is that you can do whatever you like as long as it doesn't harm others or infringe on their rights.

So, I can't kill someone else because it infringes on their rights. I can't lock someone up, or do other things.

I can tell someone to shut up, it doesn't infringe on their right to free speech, but I can't do something that would deprive them of their speech, unless they asked me to do so.

So, rights work between individuals too.

Actually not.

You're confusing civil law with criminal law, where the former concerns free speech rights, and the latter concerns prohibited conduct such as assault or murder.

And there's nothing you as a private person can do to deprive someone of his right to speak freely, as the civil law that is First Amendment jurisprudence places restrictions on government only.

As a private person you have no authority to pass a law in an attempt to preempt speech, or to arrest someone and detain him in an effort to restrict his speech – that authority rests solely with government, subject to restrictions and limitations by the First Amendment.

If you try to stop someone from expressing his views by punching him in the mouth, for example, then you've left the realm of civil law and entered the realm of criminal law, and you would be subject to criminal prosecution appropriately and accordingly, having nothing to do with free speech rights.

So no, the doctrine of rights doesn't exist between private individuals.

No, I'm not confusing anything with anything. I'm NOT talking about law at all. I'm talking about rights as a theory.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

democrats only believe in free speech if it is accepted leftist speak

Do they? Can you prove this?

yeah right now fuckhead they are trying to stop people from

attending a trump rally in Az by blocking the highway

not only against free speech

but free association

and freely travel

what a bunch of evil tyrants the leftists are

Are you using insults as an argument? I didn't get past the insult.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

Free speech is not the ability to talk where you like when you like.

So, if you and your other half are doing it in the bedroom and you stop me reading from Shakespeare, is this preventing free speech? NO.

Trump isn't being prevented from saying what he wants at all. He choose to cancel his speech but he still made it somewhere else.

So, stop talking nonsense.

Sheesh, that was weak, would you like to try again?

Nope. I'll stand by it regardless of whether you think it's weak or not. Would you like to respond to my comments or just make silly ass statements that don't do anything but avoid the topic WHICH YOU STARTED?

A candidate should be allowed to hold their own peaceful rally in the building and forum of their choosing, without having a group of disruptive demonstrators feeling the need to make a scene in order to silence the opposition. Those who support it likewise don't find anything wrong with a Congressman yelling "You lie!" In the middle of a Presidential address. It is, after all, also considered free speech according to the Constitution. Right?

A candidate should be able to speak. However Trump make the decision not to speak there.

If people wish to protest, why shouldn't they be allowed to protest? Violent protesting is a different matter, and I think you'll find most people don't agree with that.

However, at no point was Trump being prevented from saying what he wanted to say. He said what he wanted to say. So... how can anyone complain his freedom of speech has been curtailed?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Sheesh, that was weak, would you like to try again?

Nope. I'll stand by it regardless of whether you think it's weak or not. Would you like to respond to my comments or just make silly ass statements that don't do anything but avoid the topic WHICH YOU STARTED?

He chose to not speak in Chicago because it was made dangerous for American citizens trying to exercise free speech and right of assembly by professional Democratic Party radical protesters and assorted liberal loons.

Saying he could speak somewhere else isn't the point, Say you travel many hours and spend 4 hours in a line only to have your event cancelled times many thousands of others...you'd be thrilled right, best night ever...

The best part is you have to get you and your family through crowds of belligerent assholes screaming vulgarities and exercising their right of left wing hate speech, then drive 4 hrs. home rightfully pissed.

Anyone who says Trump's freedom of speech wasn't violated in Shitcago is a douche bag. Trump called off his speech there for the same reason that you might hand over your wallet to a mugger. It isn't voluntary. frigidweirdo is defending thugs. That makes him as bad as the thugs. Anyone defending these "protesters" is automatically a douche bag.

Anyone who says his Free Speech was violated, doesn't understand the Constitution.

Where in the Constitution does it say leftists can freely assault people they disagree with? I can't find that part

This is an argument that has nothing to do with what has been said.

I don't agree with people using violence, however he still didn't have his freedom of speech violated no matter how much you abhor the use of violence in the way that it happened.

It's like saying that you're freedom of speech has been taken away because someone stole your bagel.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

Free speech is not the ability to talk where you like when you like.

So, if you and your other half are doing it in the bedroom and you stop me reading from Shakespeare, is this preventing free speech? NO.

Trump isn't being prevented from saying what he wants at all. He choose to cancel his speech but he still made it somewhere else.

So, stop talking nonsense.

Sheesh, that was weak, would you like to try again?

Nope. I'll stand by it regardless of whether you think it's weak or not. Would you like to respond to my comments or just make silly ass statements that don't do anything but avoid the topic WHICH YOU STARTED?

A candidate should be allowed to hold their own peaceful rally in the building and forum of their choosing, without having a group of disruptive demonstrators feeling the need to make a scene in order to silence the opposition. Those who support it likewise don't find anything wrong with a Congressman yelling "You lie!" In the middle of a Presidential address. It is, after all, also considered free speech according to the Constitution. Right?

A candidate should be able to speak. However Trump make the decision not to speak there.

If people wish to protest, why shouldn't they be allowed to protest? Violent protesting is a different matter, and I think you'll find most people don't agree with that.

However, at no point was Trump being prevented from saying what he wanted to say. He said what he wanted to say. So... how can anyone complain his freedom of speech has been curtailed?

Your hate has swallowed your reasoning abilities making you a fool...no problem though, you're hardly alone and your hypocrisy of thought will be revealed at a later time.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Free speech is not the ability to talk where you like when you like.

So, if you and your other half are doing it in the bedroom and you stop me reading from Shakespeare, is this preventing free speech? NO.

Trump isn't being prevented from saying what he wants at all. He choose to cancel his speech but he still made it somewhere else.

So, stop talking nonsense.

Sheesh, that was weak, would you like to try again?

Nope. I'll stand by it regardless of whether you think it's weak or not. Would you like to respond to my comments or just make silly ass statements that don't do anything but avoid the topic WHICH YOU STARTED?

A candidate should be allowed to hold their own peaceful rally in the building and forum of their choosing, without having a group of disruptive demonstrators feeling the need to make a scene in order to silence the opposition. Those who support it likewise don't find anything wrong with a Congressman yelling "You lie!" In the middle of a Presidential address. It is, after all, also considered free speech according to the Constitution. Right?

A candidate should be able to speak. However Trump make the decision not to speak there.

If people wish to protest, why shouldn't they be allowed to protest? Violent protesting is a different matter, and I think you'll find most people don't agree with that.

However, at no point was Trump being prevented from saying what he wanted to say. He said what he wanted to say. So... how can anyone complain his freedom of speech has been curtailed?

Your hate has swallowed your reasoning abilities making you a fool...no problem though, you're hardly alone and your hypocrisy of thought will be revealed at a later time.

Well, you've just made an attack, and nothing else. I'll just ignore your waste of time.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Sheesh, that was weak, would you like to try again?

Nope. I'll stand by it regardless of whether you think it's weak or not. Would you like to respond to my comments or just make silly ass statements that don't do anything but avoid the topic WHICH YOU STARTED?

A candidate should be allowed to hold their own peaceful rally in the building and forum of their choosing, without having a group of disruptive demonstrators feeling the need to make a scene in order to silence the opposition. Those who support it likewise don't find anything wrong with a Congressman yelling "You lie!" In the middle of a Presidential address. It is, after all, also considered free speech according to the Constitution. Right?

A candidate should be able to speak. However Trump make the decision not to speak there.

If people wish to protest, why shouldn't they be allowed to protest? Violent protesting is a different matter, and I think you'll find most people don't agree with that.

However, at no point was Trump being prevented from saying what he wanted to say. He said what he wanted to say. So... how can anyone complain his freedom of speech has been curtailed?

Your hate has swallowed your reasoning abilities making you a fool...no problem though, you're hardly alone and your hypocrisy of thought will be revealed at a later time.

Well, you've just made an attack, and nothing else. I'll just ignore your waste of time.

You should try not repeating the same lack of reasoned crap constantly, the problem is you and your inability to absorb common sense responses.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nope. I'll stand by it regardless of whether you think it's weak or not. Would you like to respond to my comments or just make silly ass statements that don't do anything but avoid the topic WHICH YOU STARTED?

A candidate should be allowed to hold their own peaceful rally in the building and forum of their choosing, without having a group of disruptive demonstrators feeling the need to make a scene in order to silence the opposition. Those who support it likewise don't find anything wrong with a Congressman yelling "You lie!" In the middle of a Presidential address. It is, after all, also considered free speech according to the Constitution. Right?

A candidate should be able to speak. However Trump make the decision not to speak there.

If people wish to protest, why shouldn't they be allowed to protest? Violent protesting is a different matter, and I think you'll find most people don't agree with that.

However, at no point was Trump being prevented from saying what he wanted to say. He said what he wanted to say. So... how can anyone complain his freedom of speech has been curtailed?

Your hate has swallowed your reasoning abilities making you a fool...no problem though, you're hardly alone and your hypocrisy of thought will be revealed at a later time.

Well, you've just made an attack, and nothing else. I'll just ignore your waste of time.

You should try not repeating the same lack of reasoned crap constantly, the problem is you and your inability to absorb common sense responses.

Another attack???? Maybe you should stick to the topic instead of trying to get on my ignore list.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

democrats only believe in free speech if it is accepted leftist speak

Do they? Can you prove this?

yeah right now fuckhead they are trying to stop people from

attending a trump rally in Az by blocking the highway

not only against free speech

but free association

and freely travel

what a bunch of evil tyrants the leftists are

Are you using insults as an argument? I didn't get past the insult.

yeah plug your ears and go lalalalalalalalala real loud ya dope

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

Free speech is not the ability to talk where you like when you like.

So, if you and your other half are doing it in the bedroom and you stop me reading from Shakespeare, is this preventing free speech? NO.

Trump isn't being prevented from saying what he wants at all. He choose to cancel his speech but he still made it somewhere else.

So, stop talking nonsense.

Exactly.

The doctrine of free speech and First Amendment jurisprudence applies solely to the relationship between government and those governed, not between and among private persons and organizations.

One private person cannot 'violate' the free speech rights of another private person.

Should a given government entity attempt to preempt Trump's speech through force of law inconsistent with First Amendment jurisprudence, then a free speech violation would have occurred.

I'll disagree to a point.

The US Constitutional protection is between the govt and the governed.

However when it comes to rights, a right is that you can do whatever you like as long as it doesn't harm others or infringe on their rights.

So, I can't kill someone else because it infringes on their rights. I can't lock someone up, or do other things.

I can tell someone to shut up, it doesn't infringe on their right to free speech, but I can't do something that would deprive them of their speech, unless they asked me to do so.

So, rights work between individuals too.

Actually not.

You're confusing civil law with criminal law, where the former concerns free speech rights, and the latter concerns prohibited conduct such as assault or murder.

And there's nothing you as a private person can do to deprive someone of his right to speak freely, as the civil law that is First Amendment jurisprudence places restrictions on government only.

As a private person you have no authority to pass a law in an attempt to preempt speech, or to arrest someone and detain him in an effort to restrict his speech – that authority rests solely with government, subject to restrictions and limitations by the First Amendment.

If you try to stop someone from expressing his views by punching him in the mouth, for example, then you've left the realm of civil law and entered the realm of criminal law, and you would be subject to criminal prosecution appropriately and accordingly, having nothing to do with free speech rights.

So no, the doctrine of rights doesn't exist between private individuals.

No, I'm not confusing anything with anything. I'm NOT talking about law at all. I'm talking about rights as a theory.

Rights exist solely in the context of the law, as acknowledged and protected by Constitutional jurisprudence.

Rights – also referred to as privileges and immunities in the Constitution – are the inalienable protected liberties that manifest as a consequence of our humanity, they can be neither taken nor bestowed by any government, constitution, or man.

Although inalienable, our rights are not absolute, they are subject to reasonable restrictions by government consistent with Constitutional case law – and government only, not men.

Indeed, our rights are immune from unwarranted attack by government, immune from attack by the ‘will of the people,’ and immune from attack by private individuals.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

democrats only believe in free speech if it is accepted leftist speak

Do they? Can you prove this?

yeah right now fuckhead they are trying to stop people from

attending a trump rally in Az by blocking the highway

not only against free speech

but free association

and freely travel

what a bunch of evil tyrants the leftists are

Are you using insults as an argument? I didn't get past the insult.

yeah plug your ears and go lalalalalalalalala real loud ya dope

You're attacking me, then when I point out you're attacking me, your response is to act like a child.

Is this who you imagined you'd be when you were a child? Seriously?

Look dude, I'll make it plain and simple. Either you debate properly or I'll stick you on ignore. I don't care either way, you tell me how it's going to be here and then I'll act accordingly.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

Free speech is not the ability to talk where you like when you like.

So, if you and your other half are doing it in the bedroom and you stop me reading from Shakespeare, is this preventing free speech? NO.

Trump isn't being prevented from saying what he wants at all. He choose to cancel his speech but he still made it somewhere else.

So, stop talking nonsense.

It's not like the losers are falling him from place to place or anything. .....wait..

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nope .. A different Point of View ... it's just not Allowed.

Where else will Trump not be allowed to speak in America without the liberal pc nazi's threatening violence and hate?

Free speech is not the ability to talk where you like when you like.

So, if you and your other half are doing it in the bedroom and you stop me reading from Shakespeare, is this preventing free speech? NO.

Trump isn't being prevented from saying what he wants at all. He choose to cancel his speech but he still made it somewhere else.

So, stop talking nonsense.

It's not like the losers are falling him from place to place or anything. .....wait..

Try writing that so I can understand it.

"falling him"???

 

[easyt65]

No Free Speech Zone
No Feeedom to Assemble Zone
No Freedom To Drive Down the Highway Zone
No Freedom to Disagree With Democrats Zone
No Tolerance Zone
Black Lives ONLY Matter Zone
No Enforcing Laws Zone
No Democrat Accountability Zone
No FOIA Request Zone...

 

[jon_berzerk]

democrats only believe in free speech if it is accepted leftist speak

Do they? Can you prove this?

yeah right now fuckhead they are trying to stop people from

attending a trump rally in Az by blocking the highway

not only against free speech

but free association

and freely travel

what a bunch of evil tyrants the leftists are

Are you using insults as an argument? I didn't get past the insult.

yeah plug your ears and go lalalalalalalalala real loud ya dope

You're attacking me, then when I point out you're attacking me, your response is to act like a child.

Is this who you imagined you'd be when you were a child? Seriously?

Look dude, I'll make it plain and simple. Either you debate properly or I'll stick you on ignore. I don't care either way, you tell me how it's going to be here and then I'll act accordingly.

i dont give a rats ass if you stick me on ignore


i am quite sure you do not want to come to the fact that the leftists are a bunch of anti freedom fascists

with the behavior they are demonstrating

 

[bripat9643]

Do they? Can you prove this?

yeah right now fuckhead they are trying to stop people from

attending a trump rally in Az by blocking the highway

not only against free speech

but free association

and freely travel

what a bunch of evil tyrants the leftists are

Are you using insults as an argument? I didn't get past the insult.

yeah plug your ears and go lalalalalalalalala real loud ya dope

You're attacking me, then when I point out you're attacking me, your response is to act like a child.

Is this who you imagined you'd be when you were a child? Seriously?

Look dude, I'll make it plain and simple. Either you debate properly or I'll stick you on ignore. I don't care either way, you tell me how it's going to be here and then I'll act accordingly.

i dont give a rats ass if you stick me on ignore


i am quite sure you do not want to come to the fact that the leftists are a bunch of anti freedom fascists

with the behavior they are demonstrating

FRIGIDWIERDO has a lot of people on ignore. That's what happens to you if you don't accept all his basic premises.

 

[Seawytch]

Ya'll should read the Constitution. The 1st Amendment is about the government doing it. It is not a violation of Free Speech to tell stupid ass Trump supporters that they are stupid ass Trump supporters. Heck, it's not a violation of Free Speech to yell it during his rallies. It's also not a violation of Free Speech to have the yeller removed. See how that works?

Sorry, douche bag, but using violence and intimidation to stop someone from speaking is a violation of free speech. I know Stalinists like you don't want to admit what you are, but you've all made that quite obvious by defending the thugs in Shitcago.

Who said anything about using violence? When did I defend what happened in Chicago? My support for their protest ends if they are the first to resort to violence.

So it's ended then?

My support for the Chicago protesters that resorted to violence did. My support of the Donald protesters that don't resort to violence has not.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

No Free Speech Zones, But Plenty Of Free Poop Zones.