Democrat Sen. Kyrsten Sinema Refuses to Take Oath of Office on Bible

[ph3iron]

Figures a progressive asshole like you assumes people have to "drop" anyone that disagrees with them.

That doesn't follow from anything I said. I can see your grasp of logic is on par with your grasp of history and politics.

As a progressive twatwaddle, it's your subconscious wet dream, beating up on those who disagree with you like the good little proto-nazi you are.

Haha, no. What would be the point of that? Look how miserable you are already.

He does seem to be Mr Creosote ish
Love how the trumpettes seem to know all about gay sex and wet dreams

If that's the best you got may I suggest the Hello Kitty message board as being more your grade level.

And what is kitty?
A site you know well?
Enjoying your socialist SS Medicare VA benefits?
Looked up mr creosote yet?

 

[martybegan]

That doesn't follow from anything I said. I can see your grasp of logic is on par with your grasp of history and politics.

As a progressive twatwaddle, it's your subconscious wet dream, beating up on those who disagree with you like the good little proto-nazi you are.

Haha, no. What would be the point of that? Look how miserable you are already.

He does seem to be Mr Creosote ish
Love how the trumpettes seem to know all about gay sex and wet dreams

If that's the best you got may I suggest the Hello Kitty message board as being more your grade level.

And what is kitty?
A site you know well?
Enjoying your socialist SS Medicare VA benefits?
Looked up mr creosote yet?

Wow, you make even less sense the Fort Dumb, and he's retarded.

 

[beagle9]

Mike Pence had to swear in America’s first bi senator… & she didn’t use a Bible

Mike Pence, who is known for his extreme Christian conservatism, had to swear in America’s first bisexual U.S. Senator… with a copy of a law book.



I can't stand this bitch because she's an anti american douche bag just dying to turn us into Venezuela .

It's Pence's fault. If he were a real Christian, he would have refused to swear her in without a bible. Looks like he cares more about a paycheck and a job.

Anyone refusing to follow the traditional standard swearing in requirements upon the Holy Bible as it were, and this to the offices of our federal and state government, is not to be trusted as a loyal American serving in our government be it federal or state. They are openly exhibiting anti-American tendencies or actions, and they should be stopped at the door. Period.

First thing we heard out of the anti-American woman who was just sworn in on a Qur'an, was her calling our President a MF'er.

Kidding me right ?

This new break from our traditions is as anti-American as it gets, and for the citizens of this country not to see it as such is a shame and disgrace.

To refuse to seat Sinema because she refused to use a Bible would be a religious test. A religious test is unconstitutional. Anyone who demands a religious test is shameful and disgraceful. The Pilgrims came to this country for religious freedom.

Yeah, came here to practice their religion freely... Next.

 

[beagle9]

Democrat Sen. Kyrsten Sinema Refuses to Take Oath of Office on Bible

I guess this is what Democrats would call "progress", electing a bisexual who refused to take the oath of office on a Bible.

No, it’s Democrats acknowledging the fact that America has a diverse population and that citizens have the right to believe as they see fit – including the right to be free from religion.

That you and others on the authoritarian right are frightened by diversity and dissent comes as no surprise.

Look Mr. radical word miester, no one fears any other soul in this nation, nor do they shun diversity and/or people of different religions, but if any one person or group shows themselves to be anti-American or worse changlings who want to act American until they gain power, then we got a problem.... Because then they turn on American's for whom they hate (but couldn't show it until achieved a level of power), and at this point is when they shove their hate onto us from a powerful position.

Not swearing on a Bible has nothing to do with whether one is anti-America or pro-America. It shows neither hate nor love. You are a far-right wing fanatic.

If believing in the nation's time honored traditions makes me a right-wing-fanatic, then for you I'll be a right wing fanatic.

 

[bodecea]

Mike Pence had to swear in America’s first bi senator… & she didn’t use a Bible

Mike Pence, who is known for his extreme Christian conservatism, had to swear in America’s first bisexual U.S. Senator… with a copy of a law book.



I can't stand this bitch because she's an anti american douche bag just dying to turn us into Venezuela .

It's Pence's fault. If he were a real Christian, he would have refused to swear her in without a bible. Looks like he cares more about a paycheck and a job.

Anyone refusing to follow the traditional standard swearing in requirements upon the Holy Bible as it were, and this to the offices of our federal and state government, is not to be trusted as a loyal American serving in our government be it federal or state. They are openly exhibiting anti-American tendencies or actions, and they should be stopped at the door. Period.

First thing we heard out of the anti-American woman who was just sworn in on a Qur'an, was her calling our President a MF'er.

Kidding me right ?

This new break from our traditions is as anti-American as it gets, and for the citizens of this country not to see it as such is a shame and disgrace.

To refuse to seat Sinema because she refused to use a Bible would be a religious test. A religious test is unconstitutional. Anyone who demands a religious test is shameful and disgraceful. The Pilgrims came to this country for religious freedom.

Yeah, came here to practice their religion freely... Next.

And absorbed by the Puritans who's idea of religious freedom was to make everyone be free to follow the Puritan religion or else.

 

[beagle9]

Anyone refusing to follow the traditional standard swearing in requirements upon the Holy Bible as it were, and this to the offices of our federal and state government, is not to be trusted as a loyal American serving in our government be it federal or state. They are openly exhibiting anti-American tendencies or actions, and they should be stopped at the door. Period.

First thing we heard out of the anti-American woman who was just sworn in on a Qur'an, was her calling our President a MF'er.

Kidding me right ?

This new break from our traditions is as anti-American as it gets, and for the citizens of this country not to see it as such is a shame and disgrace.

So you have a draft dodger as your pic?
Nice
Using the dumb God book is against the constitution and religion is against our traditions.
Ever heard of Separation of church and state?
I guess you will be banning the Muslim who invented your iPhone next
And to criticize language when the fat orange blob has the foulest mouth possible is hilarious.
Pussygrabbing come to mind?

Your ungodlyness is representitive of your unAmerican stance in this country. Even though you might not believe which is fine, but it is that you shouldn't tell others how they should believe or shouldn't believe, and if they agree as a majority to include certain traditional values into this governing body, then you just mind your own business because it doesn't make you or break you in this nation. It never had been a negative on the populations of this nation, and it never will be.

Now tell us why you hate this nation ???

You are a religious fanatic. Your stance is the un-American stance. Refusing to use a Bible does not tell anyone what they believe in. You are forcing others to believe in what you believe in. Sinema is not making any statement for or against the Bible.

Says you a new generational Godless wonder around here eh ?

True, she doesn't need to believe anything she don't want to believe, but she could at least honor the traditional protocals that were put in place if just to show her loyalty to her country, brethren, and sisteren.

The swearing in is just symbolic to saying that you will uphold the Constitution, and the laws of this land so "HELP" you God, in which were of course laid out so many years ago, and were paved in blood on top of all that.

Anyone having an issue with God being in our nation's government platform, should be highly suspect as to their ideology, character, loyalty, and to make us all wonder about ones dedication and honor towards those who had laid down their lives for the nations freedom "under GOD", with liberty and justice for all.

It would be ashame to refuse to take an oath of office without properly honoring everything this nation has honored and believed in. That's the true shame in today's society at large.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Hey Beagle....................I guess you don't understand that you don't have to swear in on a Bible. Matter of fact, to say that they have to is actually against the Constitution (the document our leaders swear to uphold and protect).

 

[beagle9]

Hey Beagle....................I guess you don't understand that you don't have to swear in on a Bible. Matter of fact, to say that they have to is actually against the Constitution (the document our leaders swear to uphold and protect).

Like some here said, the woman was making a statement, and me thinks it was an anti-American statement.

Yes "God" and our time honored traditions are not an enemy to this nation, but the statements being made today by some, could very well be a form of anti-American statements or acts being cast or thrown towards this nation. Her future actions could spell it all out for us, but it will just be a wait and see game I guess.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Hey Beagle....................I guess you don't understand that you don't have to swear in on a Bible. Matter of fact, to say that they have to is actually against the Constitution (the document our leaders swear to uphold and protect).

Like some here said, the woman was making a statement, and me thinks it was an anti-American statement.

Yes "God" and our time honored traditions are not an enemy to this nation, but the statements being made today by some, could very well be a form of anti-American statements or acts being cast or thrown towards this nation. Her future actions could spell it all out for us, but it will just be a wait and see game I guess.

Really? You think it was an anti American sentiment? Did you even bother to read the OP's link? From the OP's link..........................

Newly elected Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema refused to be sworn in on a Bible, opting, instead, to place her right hand on a book of laws, including the U.S Constitution and the Arizona Constitution.
The book Sen. Sinema placed her hand on to be sworn in came from the Library of Congress, her office told the Arizona Republic.

“Kyrsten always gets sworn in on a Constitution simply because of her love for the Constitution,” the senator’s office said.


How can she be anti American when the very books she chose to be sworn in on were a book of laws, the US Constitution, and the AZ state Constitution? That is about as American as you can get for a swearing in ceremony. And, her choice makes more sense, considering that the very documents she is swearing to uphold and protect are the very ones she's swearing in on?

Take of your partisan glasses for a bit, you might feel better.

 

[gtopa1]

I never understood why swearing on the bible was significant.

Wouldn't it be acceptable to still lie, and then just go to confession afterwards?

Nope: that's what God uses lightning for!!!

Greg

 

[beagle9]

Hey Beagle....................I guess you don't understand that you don't have to swear in on a Bible. Matter of fact, to say that they have to is actually against the Constitution (the document our leaders swear to uphold and protect).

Like some here said, the woman was making a statement, and me thinks it was an anti-American statement.

Yes "God" and our time honored traditions are not an enemy to this nation, but the statements being made today by some, could very well be a form of anti-American statements or acts being cast or thrown towards this nation. Her future actions could spell it all out for us, but it will just be a wait and see game I guess.

Really? You think it was an anti American sentiment? Did you even bother to read the OP's link? From the OP's link..........................

Newly elected Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema refused to be sworn in on a Bible, opting, instead, to place her right hand on a book of laws, including the U.S Constitution and the Arizona Constitution.
The book Sen. Sinema placed her hand on to be sworn in came from the Library of Congress, her office told the Arizona Republic.

“Kyrsten always gets sworn in on a Constitution simply because of her love for the Constitution,” the senator’s office said.


How can she be anti American when the very books she chose to be sworn in on were a book of laws, the US Constitution, and the AZ state Constitution? That is about as American as you can get for a swearing in ceremony. And, her choice makes more sense, considering that the very documents she is swearing to uphold and protect are the very ones she's swearing in on?

Take of your partisan glasses for a bit, you might feel better.

She was making a statement that was heard by her clique. It worked to didn't it ???

What does she have against taking the oath by swearing in on the Bible (tradition) in which usually is symbolic in affirming her oath and actions to then honor and uphold the very things you've listed above ?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Hey Beagle....................I guess you don't understand that you don't have to swear in on a Bible. Matter of fact, to say that they have to is actually against the Constitution (the document our leaders swear to uphold and protect).

Like some here said, the woman was making a statement, and me thinks it was an anti-American statement.

Yes "God" and our time honored traditions are not an enemy to this nation, but the statements being made today by some, could very well be a form of anti-American statements or acts being cast or thrown towards this nation. Her future actions could spell it all out for us, but it will just be a wait and see game I guess.

Really? You think it was an anti American sentiment? Did you even bother to read the OP's link? From the OP's link..........................

Newly elected Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema refused to be sworn in on a Bible, opting, instead, to place her right hand on a book of laws, including the U.S Constitution and the Arizona Constitution.
The book Sen. Sinema placed her hand on to be sworn in came from the Library of Congress, her office told the Arizona Republic.

“Kyrsten always gets sworn in on a Constitution simply because of her love for the Constitution,” the senator’s office said.


How can she be anti American when the very books she chose to be sworn in on were a book of laws, the US Constitution, and the AZ state Constitution? That is about as American as you can get for a swearing in ceremony. And, her choice makes more sense, considering that the very documents she is swearing to uphold and protect are the very ones she's swearing in on?

Take of your partisan glasses for a bit, you might feel better.

She was making a statement that was heard by her clique. It worked to didn't it ???

What does she have against taking the oath by swearing in on the Bible (tradition) in which usually is symbolic in affirming her oath and actions to then honor and uphold the very things you've listed above ?

So, she is un American because she swore on the Constitution, AZ state Constitution and a book of laws instead of the Bible? You really are deluded. If she was forced to swear on a Bible, that would have been against the Constitution. Why do you hate America?

 

[beagle9]

Hey Beagle....................I guess you don't understand that you don't have to swear in on a Bible. Matter of fact, to say that they have to is actually against the Constitution (the document our leaders swear to uphold and protect).

Like some here said, the woman was making a statement, and me thinks it was an anti-American statement.

Yes "God" and our time honored traditions are not an enemy to this nation, but the statements being made today by some, could very well be a form of anti-American statements or acts being cast or thrown towards this nation. Her future actions could spell it all out for us, but it will just be a wait and see game I guess.

Really? You think it was an anti American sentiment? Did you even bother to read the OP's link? From the OP's link..........................

Newly elected Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema refused to be sworn in on a Bible, opting, instead, to place her right hand on a book of laws, including the U.S Constitution and the Arizona Constitution.
The book Sen. Sinema placed her hand on to be sworn in came from the Library of Congress, her office told the Arizona Republic.

“Kyrsten always gets sworn in on a Constitution simply because of her love for the Constitution,” the senator’s office said.


How can she be anti American when the very books she chose to be sworn in on were a book of laws, the US Constitution, and the AZ state Constitution? That is about as American as you can get for a swearing in ceremony. And, her choice makes more sense, considering that the very documents she is swearing to uphold and protect are the very ones she's swearing in on?

Take of your partisan glasses for a bit, you might feel better.

She was making a statement that was heard by her clique. It worked to didn't it ???

What does she have against taking the oath by swearing in on the Bible (tradition) in which usually is symbolic in affirming her oath and actions to then honor and uphold the very things you've listed above ?

So, she is un American because she swore on the Constitution, AZ state Constitution and a book of laws instead of the Bible? You really are deluded. If she was forced to swear on a Bible, that would have been against the Constitution. Why do you hate America?

No one would force her to agree to anything other than her job that she is to do while there, but to decide to make a statement that one would have a problem with the time honored traditions of this nation is quite interesting, and quite the statement indeed... However its not shocking given the bullcrap going on these days in America that's for sure. Hey she is free to do what she pleases herself to do (nobody forcing her to go against her beliefs), so why the big gruff about it all anyway ???

In my opinion though, anyone rebuking our time honored traditions and culture in this country, could have a much deeper agenda than what meets the eye.

 

[hazlnut]

Democrat Sen. Kyrsten Sinema Refuses to Take Oath of Office on Bible

I guess this is what Democrats would call "progress", electing a bisexual who refused to take the oath of office on a Bible.

Another woman who won't have you...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Like some here said, the woman was making a statement, and me thinks it was an anti-American statement.

By swearing on the Constitution instead of the Bible? Then you're a fucking moron.

 

[busybee01]

There is no religious test for federal office.

Like you really dont know why its a problem do you

Most people today have no idea what a religious test was back in those times.

Since the British monarchy, even to this day, is the head of the Church of England, you could not be a member of the government without also being an Anglican.

So often times Protestants of other varieties and sometimes Catholics too would try to fake being an Anglican so they could get the government job and keep their true religion secret.

So the government would imposes tests in the form of taking an Oath to reject the doctrine of Transubstantiation along with taking communion under the control of the Church of England.

Test Act - Wikipedia

The Corporation Act of James I provided that all such as were naturalized or restored in blood should receive the sacrament of the Lord's Supper. It was not, however, until the reign of Charles II that actually receiving communion in the Church of England was made a precondition for holding public office. The earliest imposition of this test was by the Corporation Act of 1661 requiring that, besides taking the Oath of Supremacy, all members of corporations were, within one year after election, to receive the sacrament of the Lord's Supper according to the rites of the Church of England.

Test Act of 1673[edit]
This act was followed by the Test Act of 1673[1] (25 Car. II. c. 2) (the long title of which is "An act for preventing dangers which may happen from popish recusants"[2]). This act enforced upon all persons filling any office, civil or military, the obligation of taking the oaths of supremacy and allegiance and subscribing to a declaration against transubstantiation and also of receiving the sacrament within three months after admittance to office. The oath for the Test Act of 1673 was:

I, N, do declare that I do believe that there is not any transubstantiation in the sacrament of the Lord's Supper, or in the elements of the bread and wine, at or after the consecration thereof by any person whatsoever.

The act was passed in the parliamentary session that began on 4 February 1673; the act is dated as 1672 in some accounts because the Julian calendar then in force held that the new year did not begin until Lady Day, or 25 March. The correct date using the modern Gregorian calendar is 1673.[3]

1678 Act[edit]
Initially, the Act did not extend to peers; but in 1678 the Act was extended by a further Act (30 Car. II. st. 2[4]) which required that all peers and members of the House of Commons should make a declaration against transubstantiation, invocation of saints, and the sacrament of Mass.[5] The effect of this was to exclude Catholics from both houses, and in particular the "Five Popish Lords" from the House of Lords, a change motivated largely by the alleged Popish Plot. The Lords deeply resented this interference with their membership; they delayed passage of the Act as long as possible, and managed to greatly weaken it by including an exemption for the future James II, effective head of the Catholic nobility, at whom it was largely aimed.[6]

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Taking an oath on a Bible is not the same thing as a religious test as it is entirely symbolic. Making a point to not take it ona Bible is to either display affirmation of ones traditional faith or a rejection of Christianity. In the case of secularists it is merely a rejection of any legitimacy of Christianity, something atheists tirelessly remind us of every day.

Were I in Saudi Arabi and asked to take an oath on a Quran I would not hesitate to do so.

You are so full of bullshit. It is a religious test when one uses it to attack someone. Refusing to use a Bible is not a attack on Christianity. If it is that weak then it needs to faiul.

 

[busybee01]

Anyone refusing to follow the traditional standard swearing in requirements upon the Holy Bible as it were, and this to the offices of our federal and state government, is not to be trusted as a loyal American serving in our government be it federal or state.

This is truly nauseating and is a fantastic example of what Trump has done to the brains of his cult members

Nope, better try again buddy, because you're way off base. Now I don't know how old you are, but for centuries in this country we have had a time honored tradition pertaining to certain values being held, and certain protocals being kept.

Christians have played a major role in this nation ever since it's inception, and some of it's great values have been included into the nation's government as a part of the criteria or standard that was agreed upon by most, and in which gives us an idea of the character being elected to serve us in this country.

The very fact that these things are being rejected today, should tell us just how bad this nation is getting. Like I said, I wouldn't trust anyone who rejects the time honored traditions of this nation. I would think of them as a possible enemy to the very nation that they are attempting to serve.

Christian bigots we don't need. I don't trust anyone who would swear a oath on a document they don't believe in. You can have strong values without being believing in the3 Bible. You are a enemy of this country as you have no clue what it is about.

Someone isn't an enemy of this country for having a different opinion than you do. Good Lord

They are a enemy of the people when they attack Sinema for not using a Bible.

 

[busybee01]

Mike Pence had to swear in America’s first bi senator… & she didn’t use a Bible

Mike Pence, who is known for his extreme Christian conservatism, had to swear in America’s first bisexual U.S. Senator… with a copy of a law book.



I can't stand this bitch because she's an anti american douche bag just dying to turn us into Venezuela .

It's Pence's fault. If he were a real Christian, he would have refused to swear her in without a bible. Looks like he cares more about a paycheck and a job.

Anyone refusing to follow the traditional standard swearing in requirements upon the Holy Bible as it were, and this to the offices of our federal and state government, is not to be trusted as a loyal American serving in our government be it federal or state. They are openly exhibiting anti-American tendencies or actions, and they should be stopped at the door. Period.

First thing we heard out of the anti-American woman who was just sworn in on a Qur'an, was her calling our President a MF'er.

Kidding me right ?

This new break from our traditions is as anti-American as it gets, and for the citizens of this country not to see it as such is a shame and disgrace.

To refuse to seat Sinema because she refused to use a Bible would be a religious test. A religious test is unconstitutional. Anyone who demands a religious test is shameful and disgraceful. The Pilgrims came to this country for religious freedom.

Yeah, came here to practice their religion freely... Next.

Sinema has the right to practice her religion or no religion at all. Sinema is no different than the Pilgrims. She is using her religious freedom.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Democrat Sen. Kyrsten Sinema Refuses to Take Oath of Office on Bible

I guess this is what Democrats would call "progress", electing a bisexual who refused to take the oath of office on a Bible.

As a matter of fact, this IS progress. This country is governed by the Constitution, not the Bible, and who she sleeps with has absolutely nothing to do with her job.

 

[Blackrook]

Democrat Sen. Kyrsten Sinema Refuses to Take Oath of Office on Bible

I guess this is what Democrats would call "progress", electing a bisexual who refused to take the oath of office on a Bible.

As a matter of fact, this IS progress. This country is governed by the Constitution, not the Bible, and who she sleeps with has absolutely nothing to do with her job.

But it's a big step in the wrong direction if you think bisexuality is a sexual perversion, which it is.