Democrats INSIST there is no voter fraud - again they lie

[rightwinger]

Why Millions of Americans Have No Government ID

A hit piece from NPR, is that the best you can come up with? It says poor people and old people don't have IDs.. Are any of those old poor people on medicare, medicaid, food stamps, any form of welfare, rent subsidy programs, prescription drug payment programs? If they are on any of those they have an ID.

the problem is a made up one by the dems and libs because they want illegals to vote, people to vote multiple times, dead people to vote, and people to vote in more than one state or precinct. They know that they cannot win elections with their programs, so they have to cheat. Everyone with a lick of sense knows what is going on, its obvious.

The subject is photo ID.

Republicans want to suppress the vote through culling voter roles, demanding a photo ID, limiting polling stsations in Democrat areas, moving polling places away from poorer neighborhood. and gross gerrymandering.

And you just lie about Democrats & dead people?

I listed things that Republicans have actually done. You present myths.

OK, lets assume that photo ID is the only issue (its not but lets play your game). Who in the USA legally today does not have some form of photo ID? Everyone on welfare has one, everyone getting food stamps has one, everyone on medicare has one, everyone on medicaid has one, everyone that buys booze has one. So, for the last time, who in the USA legally today does not have a photo ID?

and on the subject of limiting access to polling places, did you forget the black panthers who stood in front of the polling place in military garb and threatened white voters?

Stop fooling yourself, its the dems that want to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes, multiple votes, and dead people votes. They know that that is the only way that they can ever win. Why else would they push for open borders and allowing illegals to get dirvers licenses (photo ID) and vote?

You keep asking the same question and keep getting the same response. An estimated ten percent of the population does not have a current acceptable ID.

Oppose Voter ID Legislation - Fact Sheet

• Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.1

LOL, ACLU, LOL yeah right, they don't have a political agenda??????????????? WTF, dude, are you really that dumb?

I have provided several sources on people having ID

Your turn, provide a source for your claim that everyone has a photo ID.

 

[Redfish]

how many illegal votes are acceptable. witchey? what if no one at the polling place knows Joe Smith because he died 20 years ago.

you keep saying some states are more restrictive on voter ID requirements, which ones?

When the number of fraudulent votes is less that the voters that are disenfranchised through laws like photo voter ID.

Not one of you libs has been able to tell us who these "no ID" disenfranchised voters are. Until you can answer that simple question, you will remain on the idiot list.

Yeah, we actually have. You just dismiss it as “fake news”. It’s a very convenient dodge.

What We Know About Voter ID Laws

so you post a hit piece from a left wing site as proof???????

and you have not given us a list of people in the USA legally today that do not have some form of photo ID. You can't, that's why you keep posting BS from left wing propaganda sites.

You have been provided plenty of proof. Your refusal to accept any of it is a reflection on you and no one else. It is a fact that you are disenfranchising more citizens than you are stopping fraud by having restrictive photo ID laws.

and you and your buddy winger just keep reciting the same old left wing unsubstantiated talking points and refuse to admit that this whole thing is a dem attempt to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes. If disenfranchising voters was as common as you claim, where are the cases to prove it. Here in Louisiana we have had voter ID for years and I am not aware of one single case of disenfranchisement. In fact, the poor, old, black people "with no photo ID" in Orleans parish generally control state wide elections. Truth is, that they all have a valid ID and use it at the polling places.

 

[rightwinger]

The subject is photo ID.

Republicans want to suppress the vote through culling voter roles, demanding a photo ID, limiting polling stsations in Democrat areas, moving polling places away from poorer neighborhood. and gross gerrymandering.

And you just lie about Democrats & dead people?

I listed things that Republicans have actually done. You present myths.

OK, lets assume that photo ID is the only issue (its not but lets play your game). Who in the USA legally today does not have some form of photo ID? Everyone on welfare has one, everyone getting food stamps has one, everyone on medicare has one, everyone on medicaid has one, everyone that buys booze has one. So, for the last time, who in the USA legally today does not have a photo ID?

and on the subject of limiting access to polling places, did you forget the black panthers who stood in front of the polling place in military garb and threatened white voters?

Stop fooling yourself, its the dems that want to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes, multiple votes, and dead people votes. They know that that is the only way that they can ever win. Why else would they push for open borders and allowing illegals to get dirvers licenses (photo ID) and vote?

You keep asking the same question and keep getting the same response. An estimated ten percent of the population does not have a current acceptable ID.

10% ? so 33 million americans don't have any form of photo ID? is that your claim?

21 million

We don’t expect minors to have acceptable ID

OK, 21 million. NO form of photo ID? none of them drives? none is one welfare? none on SS? none on medicaid? none have a bank account? Funny, how your 21 million is roughly equal to the number of illegals in the USA today.

Many Americans don’t drive, most people who live in NYC don’t have cars
Many older people have expired drivers licenses
Have you ever been on welfare? Who says they have photo IDs?
Is Medicaid a photo ID? My insurance doesn’t have a photo

Where is your source that says everyone has an acceptable photo ID?

 

[rightwinger]

When the number of fraudulent votes is less that the voters that are disenfranchised through laws like photo voter ID.

Not one of you libs has been able to tell us who these "no ID" disenfranchised voters are. Until you can answer that simple question, you will remain on the idiot list.

Yeah, we actually have. You just dismiss it as “fake news”. It’s a very convenient dodge.

What We Know About Voter ID Laws

so you post a hit piece from a left wing site as proof???????

and you have not given us a list of people in the USA legally today that do not have some form of photo ID. You can't, that's why you keep posting BS from left wing propaganda sites.

You have been provided plenty of proof. Your refusal to accept any of it is a reflection on you and no one else. It is a fact that you are disenfranchising more citizens than you are stopping fraud by having restrictive photo ID laws.

and you and your buddy winger just keep reciting the same old left wing unsubstantiated talking points and refuse to admit that this whole thing is a dem attempt to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes. If disenfranchising voters was as common as you claim, where are the cases to prove it. Here in Louisiana we have had voter ID for years and I am not aware of one single case of disenfranchisement. In fact, the poor, old, black people "with no photo ID" in Orleans parish generally control state wide elections. Truth is, that they all have a valid ID and use it at the polling places.

You have yet to substantiate your claim that every American has an acceptable photo ID

 

[Redfish]

A hit piece from NPR, is that the best you can come up with? It says poor people and old people don't have IDs.. Are any of those old poor people on medicare, medicaid, food stamps, any form of welfare, rent subsidy programs, prescription drug payment programs? If they are on any of those they have an ID.

the problem is a made up one by the dems and libs because they want illegals to vote, people to vote multiple times, dead people to vote, and people to vote in more than one state or precinct. They know that they cannot win elections with their programs, so they have to cheat. Everyone with a lick of sense knows what is going on, its obvious.

The subject is photo ID.

Republicans want to suppress the vote through culling voter roles, demanding a photo ID, limiting polling stsations in Democrat areas, moving polling places away from poorer neighborhood. and gross gerrymandering.

And you just lie about Democrats & dead people?

I listed things that Republicans have actually done. You present myths.

OK, lets assume that photo ID is the only issue (its not but lets play your game). Who in the USA legally today does not have some form of photo ID? Everyone on welfare has one, everyone getting food stamps has one, everyone on medicare has one, everyone on medicaid has one, everyone that buys booze has one. So, for the last time, who in the USA legally today does not have a photo ID?

and on the subject of limiting access to polling places, did you forget the black panthers who stood in front of the polling place in military garb and threatened white voters?

Stop fooling yourself, its the dems that want to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes, multiple votes, and dead people votes. They know that that is the only way that they can ever win. Why else would they push for open borders and allowing illegals to get dirvers licenses (photo ID) and vote?

You keep asking the same question and keep getting the same response. An estimated ten percent of the population does not have a current acceptable ID.

Oppose Voter ID Legislation - Fact Sheet

• Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.1

LOL, ACLU, LOL yeah right, they don't have a political agenda??????????????? WTF, dude, are you really that dumb?

I have provided several sources on people having ID

Your turn, provide a source for your claim that everyone has a photo ID.

you have posted propaganda pieces from left wing sites, no facts yet. of the 21 million that you claim have no valid ID, how many of them voted in 2016? How many were turned away from polling places?

give us some facts, or admit that you are nothing but a talking point repeating machine.

 

[Redfish]

Not one of you libs has been able to tell us who these "no ID" disenfranchised voters are. Until you can answer that simple question, you will remain on the idiot list.

Yeah, we actually have. You just dismiss it as “fake news”. It’s a very convenient dodge.

What We Know About Voter ID Laws

so you post a hit piece from a left wing site as proof???????

and you have not given us a list of people in the USA legally today that do not have some form of photo ID. You can't, that's why you keep posting BS from left wing propaganda sites.

You have been provided plenty of proof. Your refusal to accept any of it is a reflection on you and no one else. It is a fact that you are disenfranchising more citizens than you are stopping fraud by having restrictive photo ID laws.

and you and your buddy winger just keep reciting the same old left wing unsubstantiated talking points and refuse to admit that this whole thing is a dem attempt to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes. If disenfranchising voters was as common as you claim, where are the cases to prove it. Here in Louisiana we have had voter ID for years and I am not aware of one single case of disenfranchisement. In fact, the poor, old, black people "with no photo ID" in Orleans parish generally control state wide elections. Truth is, that they all have a valid ID and use it at the polling places.

You have yet to substantiate your claim that every American has an acceptable photo ID

kids don't have one, but they can't vote. I am quite sure that there are millions of americans who have not bothered to register to vote, but that does not mean that they have no ID.

If Cal they will give a drivers license to an illegal and at the same time register them to vote in a US election. Do you really think that is right? try to answer honestly for once.

 

[rightwinger]

The subject is photo ID.

Republicans want to suppress the vote through culling voter roles, demanding a photo ID, limiting polling stsations in Democrat areas, moving polling places away from poorer neighborhood. and gross gerrymandering.

And you just lie about Democrats & dead people?

I listed things that Republicans have actually done. You present myths.

OK, lets assume that photo ID is the only issue (its not but lets play your game). Who in the USA legally today does not have some form of photo ID? Everyone on welfare has one, everyone getting food stamps has one, everyone on medicare has one, everyone on medicaid has one, everyone that buys booze has one. So, for the last time, who in the USA legally today does not have a photo ID?

and on the subject of limiting access to polling places, did you forget the black panthers who stood in front of the polling place in military garb and threatened white voters?

Stop fooling yourself, its the dems that want to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes, multiple votes, and dead people votes. They know that that is the only way that they can ever win. Why else would they push for open borders and allowing illegals to get dirvers licenses (photo ID) and vote?

You keep asking the same question and keep getting the same response. An estimated ten percent of the population does not have a current acceptable ID.

Oppose Voter ID Legislation - Fact Sheet

• Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.1

LOL, ACLU, LOL yeah right, they don't have a political agenda??????????????? WTF, dude, are you really that dumb?

I have provided several sources on people having ID

Your turn, provide a source for your claim that everyone has a photo ID.

you have posted propaganda pieces from left wing sites, no facts yet. of the 21 million that you claim have no valid ID, how many of them voted in 2016? How many were turned away from polling places?

give us some facts, or admit that you are nothing but a talking point repeating machine.

I provided several sources

You have yet to provide any
Show where everyone has photo ID

 

[wamose]

Maybe we should go full James Bond and use the retina scan. I see California and the ACLU are already fighting facial recognition technology out of fear of losing their illegal voters. You can count on all Democrats to fight every technological breakthrough that could possibly be used to assure us that voters are qualified.

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah, we actually have. You just dismiss it as “fake news”. It’s a very convenient dodge.

What We Know About Voter ID Laws

so you post a hit piece from a left wing site as proof???????

and you have not given us a list of people in the USA legally today that do not have some form of photo ID. You can't, that's why you keep posting BS from left wing propaganda sites.

You have been provided plenty of proof. Your refusal to accept any of it is a reflection on you and no one else. It is a fact that you are disenfranchising more citizens than you are stopping fraud by having restrictive photo ID laws.

and you and your buddy winger just keep reciting the same old left wing unsubstantiated talking points and refuse to admit that this whole thing is a dem attempt to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes. If disenfranchising voters was as common as you claim, where are the cases to prove it. Here in Louisiana we have had voter ID for years and I am not aware of one single case of disenfranchisement. In fact, the poor, old, black people "with no photo ID" in Orleans parish generally control state wide elections. Truth is, that they all have a valid ID and use it at the polling places.

You have yet to substantiate your claim that every American has an acceptable photo ID

kids don't have one, but they can't vote. I am quite sure that there are millions of americans who have not bothered to register to vote, but that does not mean that they have no ID.

If Cal they will give a drivers license to an illegal and at the same time register them to vote in a US election. Do you really think that is right? try to answer honestly for once.

Wrong again

If you bothered to read this thread, instead of repeating your erroneous talking points, you would know that California does not register illegals to vote and they have different licenses for non citizens

 

[LeftofLeft]

proving who you are is not a restriction,,,

People prove who they are by providing a signature under threat of prosecution. A process that has worked for hundreds of years

It is harder to fake a signature on the spot than it is to present a fake ID

A signature is virtually unenforceable as every signature would have to be validated against a known signature at the time the person was voting. That doesn't happen, which is exactly what the Democrats want. Providing proof at the time would undermind their ultimate goal, which is to obtain illegal votes. This all goes back to why they promote sanctuary cities and do not want to secure our border. It is obvious to anyone who isn't blinded.

When I vote in NJ the signature is right on the registration form. You have to sign on the spot

Easier to get a phony ID

Getting a drivers license requires some documentation, at least in my state. Thats why it is always such a pain to get a new one if you lose yours. Just scribling a sig. just before you vote, that cannot be validated at that time, is ridiculously insecure.

Admit i, the reason Democrats don't want voter id is because IF illegals do decide to vote, they will be able to. Everyone knows this, even you, You just can't bring yourself to admit it.

Illegals don’t vote....Doesn’t happen
Why take the risk of deportation and jail just to cast one vote among tens of thousands?

Democrats don’t want voter ID because it is a tool for Republicans to use to suppress the vote

Why do Red States allow a hunting license for voter ID but not a college student ID?

Democrats keep saying Voter ID would be used to suppress the vote. How? Also, it is always Democrats getting busted for voter registration fraud and obstruction or they are caught on video giving instructions how to obstruct voting.

 

[Redfish]

OK, lets assume that photo ID is the only issue (its not but lets play your game). Who in the USA legally today does not have some form of photo ID? Everyone on welfare has one, everyone getting food stamps has one, everyone on medicare has one, everyone on medicaid has one, everyone that buys booze has one. So, for the last time, who in the USA legally today does not have a photo ID?

and on the subject of limiting access to polling places, did you forget the black panthers who stood in front of the polling place in military garb and threatened white voters?

Stop fooling yourself, its the dems that want to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes, multiple votes, and dead people votes. They know that that is the only way that they can ever win. Why else would they push for open borders and allowing illegals to get dirvers licenses (photo ID) and vote?

You keep asking the same question and keep getting the same response. An estimated ten percent of the population does not have a current acceptable ID.

10% ? so 33 million americans don't have any form of photo ID? is that your claim?

21 million

We don’t expect minors to have acceptable ID

OK, 21 million. NO form of photo ID? none of them drives? none is one welfare? none on SS? none on medicaid? none have a bank account? Funny, how your 21 million is roughly equal to the number of illegals in the USA today.

Many Americans don’t drive, most people who live in NYC don’t have cars
Many older people have expired drivers licenses
Have you ever been on welfare? Who says they have photo IDs?
Is Medicaid a photo ID? My insurance doesn’t have a photo

Where is your source that says everyone has an acceptable photo ID?

you have to prove your identity to get on the welfare rolls, collect social security, food stamps, medicaid etc. Yes, your insurance card does not have a picture, but you had to provide proof of identity to get the insurance.

an expired drivers license has your picture and is a valid ID for voting. My mother was in that exact situation for several years before she died and she voted in every election with that old drivers license.

 

[rightwinger]

Maybe we should go full James Bond and use the retina scan. I see California and the ACLU are already fighting facial recognition technology out of fear of losing their illegal voters. You can count on all Democrats to fight every technological breakthrough that could possibly be used to assure us that voters are qualified.

I’m cool with a national ID system linked to biometrics
Most conservatives aren’t

 

[Redfish]

so you post a hit piece from a left wing site as proof???????

and you have not given us a list of people in the USA legally today that do not have some form of photo ID. You can't, that's why you keep posting BS from left wing propaganda sites.

You have been provided plenty of proof. Your refusal to accept any of it is a reflection on you and no one else. It is a fact that you are disenfranchising more citizens than you are stopping fraud by having restrictive photo ID laws.

and you and your buddy winger just keep reciting the same old left wing unsubstantiated talking points and refuse to admit that this whole thing is a dem attempt to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes. If disenfranchising voters was as common as you claim, where are the cases to prove it. Here in Louisiana we have had voter ID for years and I am not aware of one single case of disenfranchisement. In fact, the poor, old, black people "with no photo ID" in Orleans parish generally control state wide elections. Truth is, that they all have a valid ID and use it at the polling places.

You have yet to substantiate your claim that every American has an acceptable photo ID

kids don't have one, but they can't vote. I am quite sure that there are millions of americans who have not bothered to register to vote, but that does not mean that they have no ID.

If Cal they will give a drivers license to an illegal and at the same time register them to vote in a US election. Do you really think that is right? try to answer honestly for once.

Wrong again

If you bothered to read this thread, instead of repeating your erroneous talking points, you would know that California does not register illegals to vote and they have different licenses for non citizens

does the non citizen license have the words on it "not valid for voting in the USA"? Are you really going to claim that no illegals voted in california in 2016?

 

[rightwinger]

You keep asking the same question and keep getting the same response. An estimated ten percent of the population does not have a current acceptable ID.

10% ? so 33 million americans don't have any form of photo ID? is that your claim?

21 million

We don’t expect minors to have acceptable ID

OK, 21 million. NO form of photo ID? none of them drives? none is one welfare? none on SS? none on medicaid? none have a bank account? Funny, how your 21 million is roughly equal to the number of illegals in the USA today.

Many Americans don’t drive, most people who live in NYC don’t have cars
Many older people have expired drivers licenses
Have you ever been on welfare? Who says they have photo IDs?
Is Medicaid a photo ID? My insurance doesn’t have a photo

Where is your source that says everyone has an acceptable photo ID?

you have to prove your identity to get on the welfare rolls, collect social security, food stamps, medicaid etc. Yes, your insurance card does not have a picture, but you had to provide proof of identity to get the insurance.

an expired drivers license has your picture and is a valid ID for voting. My mother was in that exact situation for several years before she died and she voted in every election with that old drivers license.

Linky, linky


Where is your link to the claim that everyone has an acceptable photo ID??

 

[Redfish]

Maybe we should go full James Bond and use the retina scan. I see California and the ACLU are already fighting facial recognition technology out of fear of losing their illegal voters. You can count on all Democrats to fight every technological breakthrough that could possibly be used to assure us that voters are qualified.

I’m cool with a national ID system linked to biometrics
Most conservatives aren’t

not true, everyone supports that. its the dems in congress that are fighting against it

 

[rightwinger]

You have been provided plenty of proof. Your refusal to accept any of it is a reflection on you and no one else. It is a fact that you are disenfranchising more citizens than you are stopping fraud by having restrictive photo ID laws.

and you and your buddy winger just keep reciting the same old left wing unsubstantiated talking points and refuse to admit that this whole thing is a dem attempt to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes. If disenfranchising voters was as common as you claim, where are the cases to prove it. Here in Louisiana we have had voter ID for years and I am not aware of one single case of disenfranchisement. In fact, the poor, old, black people "with no photo ID" in Orleans parish generally control state wide elections. Truth is, that they all have a valid ID and use it at the polling places.

You have yet to substantiate your claim that every American has an acceptable photo ID

kids don't have one, but they can't vote. I am quite sure that there are millions of americans who have not bothered to register to vote, but that does not mean that they have no ID.

If Cal they will give a drivers license to an illegal and at the same time register them to vote in a US election. Do you really think that is right? try to answer honestly for once.

Wrong again

If you bothered to read this thread, instead of repeating your erroneous talking points, you would know that California does not register illegals to vote and they have different licenses for non citizens

does the non citizen license have the words on it "not valid for voting in the USA"? Are you really going to claim that no illegals voted in california in 2016?

Show a credible claim that illegals were found voting in California

 

[rightwinger]

Maybe we should go full James Bond and use the retina scan. I see California and the ACLU are already fighting facial recognition technology out of fear of losing their illegal voters. You can count on all Democrats to fight every technological breakthrough that could possibly be used to assure us that voters are qualified.

I’m cool with a national ID system linked to biometrics
Most conservatives aren’t

not true, everyone supports that. its the dems in congress that are fighting against it

Show us

You keep making wild claims without proof

 

[Redfish]

Ok, so lets assume Joe died last year, same scenario. My poll workers to not know everyone on the rolls by sight, do yours?

So who is going in to vote as Joe? Where are the statistics?

thats exactly the problem, no one knows. What we do know is that California issues drivers licenses to illegals and you can use a drivers license to register and vote. Do you think thats OK?

Every single state issues drivers licenses to non citizens. All 50.

I don't think that is true. Can you prove it?

Non citizens come here legally and can drive cars. Of course as a RWer, non citizen automatically means "illegal", right?

not at all, I welcome all LEGAL immigrants and foreign tourists. I only have an issue with those that enter our country in violation of our immigration laws, why don't you have an issue with that?

 

[Redfish]

Maybe we should go full James Bond and use the retina scan. I see California and the ACLU are already fighting facial recognition technology out of fear of losing their illegal voters. You can count on all Democrats to fight every technological breakthrough that could possibly be used to assure us that voters are qualified.

I’m cool with a national ID system linked to biometrics
Most conservatives aren’t

not true, everyone supports that. its the dems in congress that are fighting against it

Show us

You keep making wild claims without proof

you made the claim that conservatives are against that, the burden or proof is on you.

 

[Redfish]

and you and your buddy winger just keep reciting the same old left wing unsubstantiated talking points and refuse to admit that this whole thing is a dem attempt to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes. If disenfranchising voters was as common as you claim, where are the cases to prove it. Here in Louisiana we have had voter ID for years and I am not aware of one single case of disenfranchisement. In fact, the poor, old, black people "with no photo ID" in Orleans parish generally control state wide elections. Truth is, that they all have a valid ID and use it at the polling places.

You have yet to substantiate your claim that every American has an acceptable photo ID

kids don't have one, but they can't vote. I am quite sure that there are millions of americans who have not bothered to register to vote, but that does not mean that they have no ID.

If Cal they will give a drivers license to an illegal and at the same time register them to vote in a US election. Do you really think that is right? try to answer honestly for once.

Wrong again

If you bothered to read this thread, instead of repeating your erroneous talking points, you would know that California does not register illegals to vote and they have different licenses for non citizens

does the non citizen license have the words on it "not valid for voting in the USA"? Are you really going to claim that no illegals voted in california in 2016?

Show a credible claim that illegals were found voting in California

San Francisco will allow noncitizens to vote in a local election, creating a new immigration flashpoint