Democrats, Pacifism, and Felons

[NoNukes]

1. Following WWI, and reaching an apex during the Vietnam War, the Left has generally been hostile to anything having to do with war, often embracing pacifism. The bumper-sticker “War is Not the Answer” expresses a nearly universal Left-wing view.
a. The Left believes that just about every conflict can be settled through negotiations, that war solves nothing, and that American expenditures on defense are merely a sign of militarism, imperialism, and the insatiable appetite of the “military-industrial complex.”
b. In fact, violence is deemed immoral, and the use of the military considered nefarious, unless it is used as boy scouts would be.
Dennis Prager

c. Actually, pacifism is immoral, as it stands in the way of dealing with evil.


2. The domestic version of pacifism is practiced regularly by Liberal elected officials. The was Massachusetts Democrat Governor Dukakis, who " believed that it was “rehabilitative” for prisoners to be allowed to roam the streets unsupervised in what was known as the Prison Furlough Program.... convicted murderer Willie Horton was released from the Northeastern Correctional Center in Concord. Under state law, he had become eligible for an unguarded, 48-hour furlough. He never came back....Horton punched, pistol-whipped, and kicked Barnes – and also cut him 22 times across his midsection.
When Barnes’ fiancée Angela returned that evening, Horton gagged her and savagely raped her twice." Dukakis & Willie*Horton ? The Forerunner


3. Then there was Illinois Democrat Governor Pat Quinn..."To have a consistent, perfect death penalty system ... that's impossible in our state," Quinn told reporters. "I think it's the right and just thing to abolish the death penalty and punish those who commit heinous crimes -- evil people -- with life in prison without parole and no chance of release."
Illinois governor signs death penalty ban | Reuters


4. And California Democrat Pat Brown:
"Taking a page from Dukakis’ book, California Governor Jerry Brown is now making a habit of paroling convicted murders. According to Brown, he expunged the records of 128 felons last year, and also gave the greenlight to parole for 377 convicted murders, a full 81 percent of all those the parole board recommended go free. Virtually all other California governors have rejected such pleas from the parole board."
CA Gov. Brown Paroles 377 Convicted Killers



And, in a related story....

5. "Joe Biden Says You Don't Need Assault Weapons
Elmira, N.Y. - Vice President Joe Biden says he doesn't think you need assault style rifles in order to protect your home from an intruder.
He made those comments on Tuesday night at a facebook town hall meeting.

Biden was asked by a woman named Kate who wondered if the federal government bans certain military-style weapons and high capacity magazines, would that make law abiding citizens a target for criminals. This was his response.

Biden said, “If you want to protect yourself, get a double barrel shotgun. Have the shells for the .12 gauge shotgun and I promise you, as I told my wife, if ever there is a problem, just walk on the balcony here or walk out and put that double barrel shotgun in the air and fire two blasts outside the house. You don't need an AR 15.”
Joe Biden Says You Don't Need Assault Weapons - WETM 18 Online



And, by an inexplicable coincidence, Vice-President Biden happens to belong to the same political party as Michael Dukakis, Pat Quinn and Pat Brown.




How 'bout this...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not?


And....
"Currently jailed felons are only allowed to vote in Maine and Vermont. Democrats would like to change state laws so all currently jailed inmates even those with felony records can vote including those out on parole and awaiting release from prison. With 5.8 million convicts that is a lot of votes. Democrats also know that 80 percent of all felons polled would vote democrat so now we can see the reason behind the push for prisoner rights."

Victim rights advocates call the push by democrats “insulting” and a “slap in the face to all victims of crime”. This issue will not be decided in time for this election, but democrats say they will continue to fight for a prisoner’s right to vote in all local and national elections.
Why Democrats Want Jailed Felons To Vote | Medford Oregon City Search



What's the common denominator.....?

Why do so many people on the right attack Obama for being aggressive when he defends America?

Why do so many people on the Left link to a post to which they are, ostensibly, responding...then change the subject to an unrelated one?


Could it be because they have no way to counter the post in question?


That means you, Noodles.

In other words, you have no good answer.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That is open to question.

"Felon voting has not been regulated federally although some argue that Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act can be applied to felon disenfranchisement and that Congress has the authority to legislate felon voting in federal elections."
State Felon Voting Laws - Felon Voting - ProCon.org

The original 'question' here is whether or not it is honest to proclaim Judge Sotomayor to be in favor of letting felons vote based on her dissent in this case.

My counter-argument was that her dissent contained nothing material to that issue; her dissent was based entirely on separate issues unconnected to whatever her personal view is.

Currently jailed felons are only allowed to vote in Maine and Vermont. Democrats would like to change state laws so all currently jailed inmates even those with felony records can vote including those out on parole and awaiting release from prison. With 5.8 million convicts that is a lot of votes. Democrats also know that 80 percent of all felons polled would vote democrat so now we can see the reason behind the push for prisoner rights.
Democrats point to the laws in other countries like Canada, Denmark and Israel that allow most convicted criminals even those who are serving prison sentences the right to vote. Democrats also are saying the law banning prisoners the right to vote disenfranchises African Americans the most who make up 40 percent of felons in the United States. In a Huffington Post interview, The Sentencing Project calls the law into question and says, “This is a fundamental question of democracy”.
Victim rights advocates call the push by democrats “insulting” and a “slap in the face to all victims of crime”. This issue will not be decided in time for this election, but democrats say they will continue to fight for a prisoner’s right to vote in all local and national elections.
Why Democrats Want Jailed Felons To Vote | Medford Oregon City Search


So....using that deep insight that you always use in constructing your posts. (cough! cough!) how do you suppose the good Justice would vote if the question came before her?

You have to specify what question would come before the SCOTUS. There is no constitutional issue over whether or not states can extend voting rights to felons is there?

Secondly, you're trying to beg the question by establishing that if a judge rules a certain way on a case, it must reflect the judge's personal views on the issue. Is that a certainty?

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. Following WWI, and reaching an apex during the Vietnam War, the Left has generally been hostile to anything having to do with war, often embracing pacifism. The bumper-sticker “War is Not the Answer” expresses a nearly universal Left-wing view.
a. The Left believes that just about every conflict can be settled through negotiations, that war solves nothing, and that American expenditures on defense are merely a sign of militarism, imperialism, and the insatiable appetite of the “military-industrial complex.”
b. In fact, violence is deemed immoral, and the use of the military considered nefarious, unless it is used as boy scouts would be.
Dennis Prager

c. Actually, pacifism is immoral, as it stands in the way of dealing with evil.


2. The domestic version of pacifism is practiced regularly by Liberal elected officials. The was Massachusetts Democrat Governor Dukakis, who " believed that it was “rehabilitative” for prisoners to be allowed to roam the streets unsupervised in what was known as the Prison Furlough Program.... convicted murderer Willie Horton was released from the Northeastern Correctional Center in Concord. Under state law, he had become eligible for an unguarded, 48-hour furlough. He never came back....Horton punched, pistol-whipped, and kicked Barnes – and also cut him 22 times across his midsection.
When Barnes’ fiancée Angela returned that evening, Horton gagged her and savagely raped her twice." Dukakis & Willie*Horton ? The Forerunner


3. Then there was Illinois Democrat Governor Pat Quinn..."To have a consistent, perfect death penalty system ... that's impossible in our state," Quinn told reporters. "I think it's the right and just thing to abolish the death penalty and punish those who commit heinous crimes -- evil people -- with life in prison without parole and no chance of release."
Illinois governor signs death penalty ban | Reuters


4. And California Democrat Pat Brown:
"Taking a page from Dukakis’ book, California Governor Jerry Brown is now making a habit of paroling convicted murders. According to Brown, he expunged the records of 128 felons last year, and also gave the greenlight to parole for 377 convicted murders, a full 81 percent of all those the parole board recommended go free. Virtually all other California governors have rejected such pleas from the parole board."
CA Gov. Brown Paroles 377 Convicted Killers



And, in a related story....

5. "Joe Biden Says You Don't Need Assault Weapons
Elmira, N.Y. - Vice President Joe Biden says he doesn't think you need assault style rifles in order to protect your home from an intruder.
He made those comments on Tuesday night at a facebook town hall meeting.

Biden was asked by a woman named Kate who wondered if the federal government bans certain military-style weapons and high capacity magazines, would that make law abiding citizens a target for criminals. This was his response.

Biden said, “If you want to protect yourself, get a double barrel shotgun. Have the shells for the .12 gauge shotgun and I promise you, as I told my wife, if ever there is a problem, just walk on the balcony here or walk out and put that double barrel shotgun in the air and fire two blasts outside the house. You don't need an AR 15.”
Joe Biden Says You Don't Need Assault Weapons - WETM 18 Online



And, by an inexplicable coincidence, Vice-President Biden happens to belong to the same political party as Michael Dukakis, Pat Quinn and Pat Brown.




How 'bout this...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not?


And....
"Currently jailed felons are only allowed to vote in Maine and Vermont. Democrats would like to change state laws so all currently jailed inmates even those with felony records can vote including those out on parole and awaiting release from prison. With 5.8 million convicts that is a lot of votes. Democrats also know that 80 percent of all felons polled would vote democrat so now we can see the reason behind the push for prisoner rights."

Victim rights advocates call the push by democrats “insulting” and a “slap in the face to all victims of crime”. This issue will not be decided in time for this election, but democrats say they will continue to fight for a prisoner’s right to vote in all local and national elections.
Why Democrats Want Jailed Felons To Vote | Medford Oregon City Search



What's the common denominator.....?

Then why was it:
Woodrow Wilson
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman
Lyndon B. Johnson
Democrats all that led American into war?

I would more believe that Democrats are elitiist hypocrites who really believe their bodily waste does not stink.

Johnson was effectively driven out of office, after his blunder in escalating the Vietnam War,

by the liberal wing of the Democratic Party.

 

[Bfgrn]

"Justice is itself the great standing policy of civil society; and any eminent departure from it, under any circumstances, lies under the suspicion of being no policy at all."
Edmund Burke

This is unacceptable in a civilized nation. Of course, authoritarians like PC have no conscience, her ONLY concern is SELF.


"It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others: or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own."
Thomas Jefferson

 

[NYcarbineer]

That is open to question.

"Felon voting has not been regulated federally although some argue that Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act can be applied to felon disenfranchisement and that Congress has the authority to legislate felon voting in federal elections."
State Felon Voting Laws - Felon Voting - ProCon.org

The original 'question' here is whether or not it is honest to proclaim Judge Sotomayor to be in favor of letting felons vote based on her dissent in this case.

My counter-argument was that her dissent contained nothing material to that issue; her dissent was based entirely on separate issues unconnected to whatever her personal view is.

Currently jailed felons are only allowed to vote in Maine and Vermont. Democrats would like to change state laws so all currently jailed inmates even those with felony records can vote including those out on parole and awaiting release from prison. With 5.8 million convicts that is a lot of votes. Democrats also know that 80 percent of all felons polled would vote democrat so now we can see the reason behind the push for prisoner rights.
Democrats point to the laws in other countries like Canada, Denmark and Israel that allow most convicted criminals even those who are serving prison sentences the right to vote. Democrats also are saying the law banning prisoners the right to vote disenfranchises African Americans the most who make up 40 percent of felons in the United States. In a Huffington Post interview, The Sentencing Project calls the law into question and says, “This is a fundamental question of democracy”.
Victim rights advocates call the push by democrats “insulting” and a “slap in the face to all victims of crime”. This issue will not be decided in time for this election, but democrats say they will continue to fight for a prisoner’s right to vote in all local and national elections.
Why Democrats Want Jailed Felons To Vote | Medford Oregon City Search


So....using that deep insight that you always use in constructing your posts. (cough! cough!) how do you suppose the good Justice would vote if the question came before her?

Don't you want to defend the claim made by your original source re Sotomayor? The source that claimed as fact, without evidence, that she wants felons to vote? Or are you grudgingly, tacitly acknowledging that that claim was baseless, flawed speculation?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Following WWI, and reaching an apex during the Vietnam War, the Left has generally been hostile to anything having to do with war, often embracing pacifism. The bumper-sticker “War is Not the Answer” expresses a nearly universal Left-wing view.
a. The Left believes that just about every conflict can be settled through negotiations, that war solves nothing, and that American expenditures on defense are merely a sign of militarism, imperialism, and the insatiable appetite of the “military-industrial complex.”
b. In fact, violence is deemed immoral, and the use of the military considered nefarious, unless it is used as boy scouts would be.
Dennis Prager

c. Actually, pacifism is immoral, as it stands in the way of dealing with evil.


2. The domestic version of pacifism is practiced regularly by Liberal elected officials. The was Massachusetts Democrat Governor Dukakis, who " believed that it was “rehabilitative” for prisoners to be allowed to roam the streets unsupervised in what was known as the Prison Furlough Program.... convicted murderer Willie Horton was released from the Northeastern Correctional Center in Concord. Under state law, he had become eligible for an unguarded, 48-hour furlough. He never came back....Horton punched, pistol-whipped, and kicked Barnes – and also cut him 22 times across his midsection.
When Barnes’ fiancée Angela returned that evening, Horton gagged her and savagely raped her twice." Dukakis & Willie*Horton ? The Forerunner


3. Then there was Illinois Democrat Governor Pat Quinn..."To have a consistent, perfect death penalty system ... that's impossible in our state," Quinn told reporters. "I think it's the right and just thing to abolish the death penalty and punish those who commit heinous crimes -- evil people -- with life in prison without parole and no chance of release."
Illinois governor signs death penalty ban | Reuters


4. And California Democrat Pat Brown:
"Taking a page from Dukakis’ book, California Governor Jerry Brown is now making a habit of paroling convicted murders. According to Brown, he expunged the records of 128 felons last year, and also gave the greenlight to parole for 377 convicted murders, a full 81 percent of all those the parole board recommended go free. Virtually all other California governors have rejected such pleas from the parole board."
CA Gov. Brown Paroles 377 Convicted Killers



And, in a related story....

5. "Joe Biden Says You Don't Need Assault Weapons
Elmira, N.Y. - Vice President Joe Biden says he doesn't think you need assault style rifles in order to protect your home from an intruder.
He made those comments on Tuesday night at a facebook town hall meeting.

Biden was asked by a woman named Kate who wondered if the federal government bans certain military-style weapons and high capacity magazines, would that make law abiding citizens a target for criminals. This was his response.

Biden said, “If you want to protect yourself, get a double barrel shotgun. Have the shells for the .12 gauge shotgun and I promise you, as I told my wife, if ever there is a problem, just walk on the balcony here or walk out and put that double barrel shotgun in the air and fire two blasts outside the house. You don't need an AR 15.”
Joe Biden Says You Don't Need Assault Weapons - WETM 18 Online



And, by an inexplicable coincidence, Vice-President Biden happens to belong to the same political party as Michael Dukakis, Pat Quinn and Pat Brown.




How 'bout this...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not?


And....
"Currently jailed felons are only allowed to vote in Maine and Vermont. Democrats would like to change state laws so all currently jailed inmates even those with felony records can vote including those out on parole and awaiting release from prison. With 5.8 million convicts that is a lot of votes. Democrats also know that 80 percent of all felons polled would vote democrat so now we can see the reason behind the push for prisoner rights."

Victim rights advocates call the push by democrats “insulting” and a “slap in the face to all victims of crime”. This issue will not be decided in time for this election, but democrats say they will continue to fight for a prisoner’s right to vote in all local and national elections.
Why Democrats Want Jailed Felons To Vote | Medford Oregon City Search



What's the common denominator.....?

Then why was it:
Woodrow Wilson
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman
Lyndon B. Johnson
Democrats all that led American into war?

I would more believe that Democrats are elitiist hypocrites who really believe their bodily waste does not stink.

Johnson was effectively driven out of office, after his blunder in escalating the Vietnam War,

by the liberal wing of the Democratic Party.

Oh.....the Liberal pacifists?


Or the Liberals who hate to see communism defeated?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Justice is itself the great standing policy of civil society; and any eminent departure from it, under any circumstances, lies under the suspicion of being no policy at all."
Edmund Burke

This is unacceptable in a civilized nation. Of course, authoritarians like PC have no conscience, her ONLY concern is SELF.


"It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others: or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own."
Thomas Jefferson

"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man."
Genesis 9:6

 

[PoliticalChic]

The original 'question' here is whether or not it is honest to proclaim Judge Sotomayor to be in favor of letting felons vote based on her dissent in this case.

My counter-argument was that her dissent contained nothing material to that issue; her dissent was based entirely on separate issues unconnected to whatever her personal view is.

Currently jailed felons are only allowed to vote in Maine and Vermont. Democrats would like to change state laws so all currently jailed inmates even those with felony records can vote including those out on parole and awaiting release from prison. With 5.8 million convicts that is a lot of votes. Democrats also know that 80 percent of all felons polled would vote democrat so now we can see the reason behind the push for prisoner rights.
Democrats point to the laws in other countries like Canada, Denmark and Israel that allow most convicted criminals even those who are serving prison sentences the right to vote. Democrats also are saying the law banning prisoners the right to vote disenfranchises African Americans the most who make up 40 percent of felons in the United States. In a Huffington Post interview, The Sentencing Project calls the law into question and says, “This is a fundamental question of democracy”.
Victim rights advocates call the push by democrats “insulting” and a “slap in the face to all victims of crime”. This issue will not be decided in time for this election, but democrats say they will continue to fight for a prisoner’s right to vote in all local and national elections.
Why Democrats Want Jailed Felons To Vote | Medford Oregon City Search


So....using that deep insight that you always use in constructing your posts. (cough! cough!) how do you suppose the good Justice would vote if the question came before her?

Don't you want to defend the claim made by your original source re Sotomayor? The source that claimed as fact, without evidence, that she wants felons to vote? Or are you grudgingly, tacitly acknowledging that that claim was baseless, flawed speculation?

What is "flawed speculation"?

Are you admitting that her statement opened the question of felons voting....a position held by one political party.....hers.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why do so many people on the right attack Obama for being aggressive when he defends America?

Why do so many people on the Left link to a post to which they are, ostensibly, responding...then change the subject to an unrelated one?


Could it be because they have no way to counter the post in question?


That means you, Noodles.

In other words, you have no good answer.

Why do you need words other than mine....unless you're looking for an opportunity to simply make 'em up.

 

[Pogo]

"Justice is itself the great standing policy of civil society; and any eminent departure from it, under any circumstances, lies under the suspicion of being no policy at all."
Edmund Burke

This is unacceptable in a civilized nation. Of course, authoritarians like PC have no conscience, her ONLY concern is SELF.


"It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others: or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own."
Thomas Jefferson

"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man."
Genesis 9:6

"Thou shalt not kill" -- Exodus 20:13
"Duh!" - Pogo 02:24

 

[NYcarbineer]

Currently jailed felons are only allowed to vote in Maine and Vermont. Democrats would like to change state laws so all currently jailed inmates even those with felony records can vote including those out on parole and awaiting release from prison. With 5.8 million convicts that is a lot of votes. Democrats also know that 80 percent of all felons polled would vote democrat so now we can see the reason behind the push for prisoner rights.
Democrats point to the laws in other countries like Canada, Denmark and Israel that allow most convicted criminals even those who are serving prison sentences the right to vote. Democrats also are saying the law banning prisoners the right to vote disenfranchises African Americans the most who make up 40 percent of felons in the United States. In a Huffington Post interview, The Sentencing Project calls the law into question and says, “This is a fundamental question of democracy”.
Victim rights advocates call the push by democrats “insulting” and a “slap in the face to all victims of crime”. This issue will not be decided in time for this election, but democrats say they will continue to fight for a prisoner’s right to vote in all local and national elections.
Why Democrats Want Jailed Felons To Vote | Medford Oregon City Search


So....using that deep insight that you always use in constructing your posts. (cough! cough!) how do you suppose the good Justice would vote if the question came before her?

Don't you want to defend the claim made by your original source re Sotomayor? The source that claimed as fact, without evidence, that she wants felons to vote? Or are you grudgingly, tacitly acknowledging that that claim was baseless, flawed speculation?

What is "flawed speculation"?

Are you admitting that her statement opened the question of felons voting....a position held by one political party.....hers.

Your obfuscation is forcing me to simply repeat, again and again,

1. you posted a claim (which presumably you agree with) that Judge Sotomayor wants felons to vote.

2. The evidence presented for that claim did not in fact contain anything whatsoever that supported the claim. I posted the text of the original material. Nowhere in it was there any evidence that she wants felons to vote. Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. Her dissent in the case was based on issues unrelated to the specifics of the case - what I mean by that is that this case could have been about any number of issues for which her dissent could have applied, because her dissent was more about process, separation of powers, etc. Go back and read it.

3. You should assign a belief, position, or opinion to someone unless you can prove they actually hold it.

That was all I was saying.

 

[NoNukes]

Why do so many people on the Left link to a post to which they are, ostensibly, responding...then change the subject to an unrelated one?


Could it be because they have no way to counter the post in question?


That means you, Noodles.

In other words, you have no good answer.

Why do you need words other than mine....unless you're looking for an opportunity to simply make 'em up.

Still no answer, fine.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Don't you want to defend the claim made by your original source re Sotomayor? The source that claimed as fact, without evidence, that she wants felons to vote? Or are you grudgingly, tacitly acknowledging that that claim was baseless, flawed speculation?

What is "flawed speculation"?

Are you admitting that her statement opened the question of felons voting....a position held by one political party.....hers.

Your obfuscation is forcing me to simply repeat, again and again,

1. you posted a claim (which presumably you agree with) that Judge Sotomayor wants felons to vote.

2. The evidence presented for that claim did not in fact contain anything whatsoever that supported the claim. I posted the text of the original material. Nowhere in it was there any evidence that she wants felons to vote. Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. Her dissent in the case was based on issues unrelated to the specifics of the case - what I mean by that is that this case could have been about any number of issues for which her dissent could have applied, because her dissent was more about process, separation of powers, etc. Go back and read it.

3. You should assign a belief, position, or opinion to someone unless you can prove they actually hold it.

That was all I was saying.

What is "flawed speculation"?

Are you admitting that her statement opened the question of felons voting....a position held by one political party.....hers.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Justice is itself the great standing policy of civil society; and any eminent departure from it, under any circumstances, lies under the suspicion of being no policy at all."
Edmund Burke

This is unacceptable in a civilized nation. Of course, authoritarians like PC have no conscience, her ONLY concern is SELF.


"It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others: or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own."
Thomas Jefferson

"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man."
Genesis 9:6

"Thou shalt not kill" -- Exodus 20:13
"Duh!" - Pogo 02:24

While making mistakes is not unusual for you....this is one even you should have realized.


The correct translation is Thou shalt not murder.

If your mistake were correct, war and self-defense would be forbidden as well.


As it is Sunday, let's proceed with your biblical instruction:

Genesis 9:6 prescribed the death penalty for murder when it said that if a man “shed the blood” of another man, by man must his blood be shed.
It is the only law repeated in all five of the books of the old testament.
The death penalty is a value, values are eternal, as opposed to customs or traditions, such as stoning for adultery.

Exodus 21:12-14
Leviticus 24:17 and 21
Numbers 35:16-18 and Numbers 35:31
Deuteronomy 19:11-13


You're welcome.


"Duh" certainly fits you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In other words, you have no good answer.

Why do you need words other than mine....unless you're looking for an opportunity to simply make 'em up.

Still no answer, fine.

The answer was given earlier.

You introduced a question totally extraneous to the thread.
If you wish to change the subject, as you've been thoroughly thrashed in several
threads, by all means begin whatever thread you wish.

"Still no answer, fine" is both sophomoric and transparent.

 

[editec]

Some people confuse not wanting to get into a senseless war with pacifism.

Most of those people tend to be?

CHICKENHAWKS.

This board is rife with then I suspect.

Little boys talking tough

 

[PoliticalChic]

Some people confuse not wanting to get into a senseless war with pacifism.

Most of those people tend to be?

CHICKENHAWKS.

This board is rife with then I suspect.

Little boys talking tough

But I'm certain you agree that there are just wars.

 

[Bfgrn]

"Justice is itself the great standing policy of civil society; and any eminent departure from it, under any circumstances, lies under the suspicion of being no policy at all."
Edmund Burke

This is unacceptable in a civilized nation. Of course, authoritarians like PC have no conscience, her ONLY concern is SELF.


"It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others: or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own."
Thomas Jefferson

"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man."
Genesis 9:6

The final irony of your ignorant rant is that conservatives 'claim' to abhor overbearing government. But they zealously sanction the most overbearing and egregious act of the state; executing an innocent citizen. No right We, the People possess comes from God EXCEPT the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The state is merely a murderer in this case, and statists like you are accessories to murder.


Psalm 94:20–21
20 Shall the throne of iniquity, which devises evil by law, Have fellowship with You? 21 They gather together against the life of the righteous, And condemn innocent blood.

 

[NoNukes]

Why do you need words other than mine....unless you're looking for an opportunity to simply make 'em up.

Still no answer, fine.

The answer was given earlier.

You introduced a question totally extraneous to the thread.
If you wish to change the subject, as you've been thoroughly thrashed in several
threads, by all means begin whatever thread you wish.

"Still no answer, fine" is both sophomoric and transparent.

I thought the question pertinent with your criticism of pacifists, guess it was beyond your scope.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Still no answer, fine.

The answer was given earlier.

You introduced a question totally extraneous to the thread.
If you wish to change the subject, as you've been thoroughly thrashed in several
threads, by all means begin whatever thread you wish.

"Still no answer, fine" is both sophomoric and transparent.

I thought the question pertinent with your criticism of pacifists, guess it was beyond your scope.

Why are you so fearful?

Truth up, man.