Democrats ready to defect to Trump

[Silhouette]

The middle is where the votes are at and both sides had better listen to the Trumpsters (sans Donald) or risk losing the election. The days of political extremes are over... This is a game of political-chicken and those who aren't paying attention to reality are going to get a wallop this Fall..

Trump may be doing our country a great service...so long as he doesn't EVER become President..

There's nothing quite like a wildly-unpredictable election to keep one's knuckles white..

 

[Siete]

who said Republicans will vote for Clinton? (sheesh)

RW's held their nose and voted for Willard huh? He LOST !!! so Maybe they'll hold their nose and vote for Trump too.

You brought up the republicans who disapprove of Trump.

Brit pointed out that that does not mean that they won't vote for him when it comes down to him or Hillary.

Your response made no sense.

Yes. Romney lost. Trump is not Romney.

The point is your point about the 27% was answered.

Do you want to admit that, or address it, or defend it, or are you just going to throw the next thing against the wall to see if it sticks?

one more time, I'll go r e a l s l o w ... O'Rilley was curious to see if the anti Trump Republicans EVEN SHOW UP AT THE POLLS TO VOTE .. he seems to believe they won''t and neither do I .

stick that UP your wall.

the lessor of two evils will insure that the vast majority of anti Trump republicans show up to vote for Trump.
There is no way an American would risk someone like Hillary or Bernie in the White House.

Republicans were in the process of re-branding. They don't want Donald. Read the news ...

the republicans in DC want to re-brand in one direction, the majority of republican voters want to re-brand in another.
The voters do not want the GOP to move even more to the left, the GOP passed center years ago, time to bring them back where they should be.

a WSJ article ..

Updated Nov. 20, 2015 7:03 p.m. ET

996 COMMENTS

The Republican establishment, increasingly alarmed by the enduring strength of Donald Trump’s presidential bid, is ratcheting up efforts to knock him out of the race, including the first attempt to unite donors from rival camps into a single anti-Trump force.

A well-connected GOP operative is planning a “guerrilla campaign” backed by secret donors to “defeat and destroy” the celebrity businessman’s candidacy, according to a memo reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

A super PAC supporting Ohio Gov. John Kasich is airing a series of ads targeting Mr. Trump. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush struck with his bluntest attacks yet on Friday, and the super PAC associated with the Club for Growth, an economic conservative group, is trying to raise money to resume attack ads that it has run in Iowa against Mr. Trump.

Together, the efforts seem to represent a turning point in the GOP contest, in which other campaigns have previously been skittish about taking on Mr. Trump so directly. The sense of urgency has mounted in part because Mr. Trump continues at or near the top of GOP polls, even after many predicted that the Paris terror attacks would lead voters to turn to a more seasoned candidate.

The most concerted effort is Trump Card LLC, the self-styled guerrilla campaign being launched by Liz Mair, the former online communications director of the Republican National Committee.

“In the absence of our efforts, Trump is exceedingly unlikely to implode or be forced out of the race,” according to the Trump Card memo. “The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”




deny til you're purple.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

The middle is where the votes are at and both sides had better listen to the Trumpsters (sans Donald) or risk losing the election. The days of political extremes are over... This is a game of political-chicken and those who aren't paying attention to reality are going to get a wallop this Fall..

I agree that the middle should be where the votes are at, the problem is that as the left moves more to the left and the republicans move along with them, middle tends to move to the left also.
the left is whats killing this country. We need to start moving back to the right in order to get the middle back where it belongs.

 

[Silhouette]

The middle is where the votes are at and both sides had better listen to the Trumpsters (sans Donald) or risk losing the election. The days of political extremes are over... This is a game of political-chicken and those who aren't paying attention to reality are going to get a wallop this Fall..

I agree that the middle should be where the votes are at, the problem is that as the left moves more to the left and the republicans move along with them, middle tends to move to the left also.
the left is whats killing this country. We need to start moving back to the right in order to get the middle back where it belongs.

No, nobody is asking republicans to move to the left. They're asking for moderate republicans to run. There will always be extremes on either end tugging backwards on their middle folk. You can rely on that. You can't insert any true conservative agendas into a Whitehouse platform if your candidate failed to get there in the first place..

 

[Maryland Patriot]

You brought up the republicans who disapprove of Trump.

Brit pointed out that that does not mean that they won't vote for him when it comes down to him or Hillary.

Your response made no sense.

Yes. Romney lost. Trump is not Romney.

The point is your point about the 27% was answered.

Do you want to admit that, or address it, or defend it, or are you just going to throw the next thing against the wall to see if it sticks?

one more time, I'll go r e a l s l o w ... O'Rilley was curious to see if the anti Trump Republicans EVEN SHOW UP AT THE POLLS TO VOTE .. he seems to believe they won''t and neither do I .

stick that UP your wall.

the lessor of two evils will insure that the vast majority of anti Trump republicans show up to vote for Trump.
There is no way an American would risk someone like Hillary or Bernie in the White House.

Republicans were in the process of re-branding. They don't want Donald. Read the news ...

the republicans in DC want to re-brand in one direction, the majority of republican voters want to re-brand in another.
The voters do not want the GOP to move even more to the left, the GOP passed center years ago, time to bring them back where they should be.

a WSJ article ..

Updated Nov. 20, 2015 7:03 p.m. ET

996 COMMENTS

The Republican establishment, increasingly alarmed by the enduring strength of Donald Trump’s presidential bid, is ratcheting up efforts to knock him out of the race, including the first attempt to unite donors from rival camps into a single anti-Trump force.

A well-connected GOP operative is planning a “guerrilla campaign” backed by secret donors to “defeat and destroy” the celebrity businessman’s candidacy, according to a memo reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

A super PAC supporting Ohio Gov. John Kasich is airing a series of ads targeting Mr. Trump. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush struck with his bluntest attacks yet on Friday, and the super PAC associated with the Club for Growth, an economic conservative group, is trying to raise money to resume attack ads that it has run in Iowa against Mr. Trump.

Together, the efforts seem to represent a turning point in the GOP contest, in which other campaigns have previously been skittish about taking on Mr. Trump so directly. The sense of urgency has mounted in part because Mr. Trump continues at or near the top of GOP polls, even after many predicted that the Paris terror attacks would lead voters to turn to a more seasoned candidate.

The most concerted effort is Trump Card LLC, the self-styled guerrilla campaign being launched by Liz Mair, the former online communications director of the Republican National Committee.

“In the absence of our efforts, Trump is exceedingly unlikely to implode or be forced out of the race,” according to the Trump Card memo. “The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”




deny til you're purple.

Deny what?
you just posted something that says exactly what I said.
The GOP establishment, as in the RINOs in DC, do not want him. If the public felt the same there would be no need to launch such an attack on him.
and I have always said that the whore hillary would be the next president, she was promised 8 years ago.

 

[amrchaos]

Why does the left attack Trump?

To tenderize their meat before they cook it!!

If Lindsey Graham was the leading Republican, the left would attack Graham. That goes for any Republican that is leading in their primaries!

Remember Fiorina started to climb--the left attacked her
How about Ol Ben Carson? Jumped on him like a pack of jackals!

Now it is Cruz turn with Rubio close behind. Care to guess who the left is going to munch on next?

The left knows you have to soil the competition as a tactic to winning. To leave Trump unmangled is to give the GOP an unfair advantage.

It is not fear--It is politics.

 

[Siete]

one more time, I'll go r e a l s l o w ... O'Rilley was curious to see if the anti Trump Republicans EVEN SHOW UP AT THE POLLS TO VOTE .. he seems to believe they won''t and neither do I .

stick that UP your wall.

the lessor of two evils will insure that the vast majority of anti Trump republicans show up to vote for Trump.
There is no way an American would risk someone like Hillary or Bernie in the White House.

Republicans were in the process of re-branding. They don't want Donald. Read the news ...

the republicans in DC want to re-brand in one direction, the majority of republican voters want to re-brand in another.
The voters do not want the GOP to move even more to the left, the GOP passed center years ago, time to bring them back where they should be.

a WSJ article ..

Updated Nov. 20, 2015 7:03 p.m. ET

996 COMMENTS

The Republican establishment, increasingly alarmed by the enduring strength of Donald Trump’s presidential bid, is ratcheting up efforts to knock him out of the race, including the first attempt to unite donors from rival camps into a single anti-Trump force.

A well-connected GOP operative is planning a “guerrilla campaign” backed by secret donors to “defeat and destroy” the celebrity businessman’s candidacy, according to a memo reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

A super PAC supporting Ohio Gov. John Kasich is airing a series of ads targeting Mr. Trump. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush struck with his bluntest attacks yet on Friday, and the super PAC associated with the Club for Growth, an economic conservative group, is trying to raise money to resume attack ads that it has run in Iowa against Mr. Trump.

Together, the efforts seem to represent a turning point in the GOP contest, in which other campaigns have previously been skittish about taking on Mr. Trump so directly. The sense of urgency has mounted in part because Mr. Trump continues at or near the top of GOP polls, even after many predicted that the Paris terror attacks would lead voters to turn to a more seasoned candidate.

The most concerted effort is Trump Card LLC, the self-styled guerrilla campaign being launched by Liz Mair, the former online communications director of the Republican National Committee.

“In the absence of our efforts, Trump is exceedingly unlikely to implode or be forced out of the race,” according to the Trump Card memo. “The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”




deny til you're purple.

Deny what?
you just posted something that says exactly what I said.
The GOP establishment, as in the RINOs in DC, do not want him. If the public felt the same there would be no need to launch such an attack on him.
and I have always said that the whore hillary would be the next president, she was promised 8 years ago.

that whore Hillary?


IMO sophomoric partisanship like that is what's wrong with the country and our political system. By all means, carry on, and keep losing.

G'day.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

the lessor of two evils will insure that the vast majority of anti Trump republicans show up to vote for Trump.
There is no way an American would risk someone like Hillary or Bernie in the White House.

Republicans were in the process of re-branding. They don't want Donald. Read the news ...

the republicans in DC want to re-brand in one direction, the majority of republican voters want to re-brand in another.
The voters do not want the GOP to move even more to the left, the GOP passed center years ago, time to bring them back where they should be.

a WSJ article ..

Updated Nov. 20, 2015 7:03 p.m. ET

996 COMMENTS

The Republican establishment, increasingly alarmed by the enduring strength of Donald Trump’s presidential bid, is ratcheting up efforts to knock him out of the race, including the first attempt to unite donors from rival camps into a single anti-Trump force.

A well-connected GOP operative is planning a “guerrilla campaign” backed by secret donors to “defeat and destroy” the celebrity businessman’s candidacy, according to a memo reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

A super PAC supporting Ohio Gov. John Kasich is airing a series of ads targeting Mr. Trump. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush struck with his bluntest attacks yet on Friday, and the super PAC associated with the Club for Growth, an economic conservative group, is trying to raise money to resume attack ads that it has run in Iowa against Mr. Trump.

Together, the efforts seem to represent a turning point in the GOP contest, in which other campaigns have previously been skittish about taking on Mr. Trump so directly. The sense of urgency has mounted in part because Mr. Trump continues at or near the top of GOP polls, even after many predicted that the Paris terror attacks would lead voters to turn to a more seasoned candidate.

The most concerted effort is Trump Card LLC, the self-styled guerrilla campaign being launched by Liz Mair, the former online communications director of the Republican National Committee.

“In the absence of our efforts, Trump is exceedingly unlikely to implode or be forced out of the race,” according to the Trump Card memo. “The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”




deny til you're purple.

Deny what?
you just posted something that says exactly what I said.
The GOP establishment, as in the RINOs in DC, do not want him. If the public felt the same there would be no need to launch such an attack on him.
and I have always said that the whore hillary would be the next president, she was promised 8 years ago.

that whore Hillary?


IMO sophomoric partisanship like that is what's wrong with the country and our political system. By all means, carry on, and keep losing.

G'day.

actually she is a whore.
She will trade her own values to get elected. She will lie, cheat, steal and I among others suspect murder to obtain her goal.
what would you call someone like that? when someone is willing to discard all of their personal values like that, I consider them a whore.
I think that just looking at the beast it should be obvious I was not referring to her whoring in a sexual way.

 

[Toro]

I don't know what it means to "sleeve" someone, but Trump hasn't said a thing about minorities, gays, women or young people. All he has said is that he wants to put a stop to illegal aliens and temporarily halt the immigration of Muslims.

He said that he wanted to create a database of Muslims, Mexican immigrants were rapists and criminals, Carly Fiorina was too ugly to be President, insulted Seventh-Day Adventists, and Iowans were stupid.

So, in fairness, he hasn't insulted gays and young people, at least not yet.

Trump has consistently trailed Rubio and Cruz v Hillary, and his negatives have consistently been higher than those two others.

Hillary is a weak candidate, but her chances would go up appreciably with Trump as the candidate.

 

[Zander]

Reality check time!!

Despite the shrieking and caterwauling of the LWNJ''s, Donald Trump has a clear and very viable path to winning the GOP nomination. Here is the math

He needs 1144 delegates to win. .

All primaries held before April 1 will be awarded proportionately.
Total Proportional Delegates: 1492
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia

All primaries held on or after Arpil 1 are "winner take all".
Total Winner-Take-All Delegates: 813
California, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Guam, Indiana, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Northern Marianas, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Virgin Islands, West Virginia, Wisconsin

The following states have not yet scheduled their primaries.
Unknown Delegates: 165
American Samoa, Idaho, Maine, North Dakota, Washington, Wyoming

Trump is now polling at 40%. Assuming he takes the winner take all states (813 delegates), If he only manages to get 23% of the proportional delegates (343) - he wins. If he stays at 35-40% (522-596 proportional delegates) - he wins in a relative cake-walk.

But what if he doesn't win all of the WTA states? He has plenty of wiggle room via the 165 "unknown" delegates and by garnering larger shares in the proportional states.

Bottom line: At this point,TRUMP is the clear favorite. To believe otherwise requires a willful suspension of reality, polls, and basic math.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I seriously doubt any democrats will be voting against infrastructure, science, r&d, education, minimum wage, ssi, etc. They'd have to be idiots.

SSI? Are you sure you mean SSI?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The OP is not of a matchup poll. It's not even scientific.

It's a survey group 'click-analysis' taken of people during the time in which they watch a 30-second attack ad.

So, it's not even a poll.

Oh, and Trump is currently losing in New Hampshire by 14 points to Clinton and 20 points to Sanders.

Yepp, looks like he is winning Democratic votes!!

Remind me. How many electoral votes does NH have?

Never mind! it's irrelevant to the discussion, but you already knew that I hope.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not a chance. Trump hasn't been vetted or seriously challenged yet, nor has he been battle tested. If Republicans are dumb enough to nominate this crass loud-mouthed reality show fool, I'll join with the Dems and other thinking Americans to destroy him.

Why not take a chance on Trump. Americans were dumb enough to elect a ghetto street shyster and look what happened.

Yes, Goddammit, look what happened. When President Obama took office, we were losing over 500,000 jobs a month. The stock market was headed straight down, hitting a low of 6500, thanks to the wonderful job the GOP did in the previous 8 years. Now, it is over 16,000, and unemployment is about 5%. Such an awful thing, more than doubling the market, and halving the unemployment.

What whining assholes you 'Conservatives' are.

The stock market was over 18,000. What happened?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I don't know what it means to "sleeve" someone, but Trump hasn't said a thing about minorities, gays, women or young people. All he has said is that he wants to put a stop to illegal aliens and temporarily halt the immigration of Muslims.

He said that he wanted to create a database of Muslims, Mexican immigrants were rapists and criminals, Carly Fiorina was too ugly to be President, insulted Seventh-Day Adventists, and Iowans were stupid.

So, in fairness, he hasn't insulted gays and young people, at least not yet.

Trump has consistently trailed Rubio and Cruz v Hillary, and his negatives have consistently been higher than those two others.

Hillary is a weak candidate, but her chances would go up appreciably with Trump as the candidate.

lets see. A data base of illegals that are known rapists and criminals. how is that racist? If you are a rapist or a criminal and a citizen you are already on that data base. NOT RACIST
Said Carly Fiorina was too ugly to be president, ignorant? perhaps. ( I dont find her looks to be ugly, maybe not magazine quality but certainly not someone I would call ugly) that speaks of one woman, not all women in general. Not sexist.
Dont remember him insulting the Seventh Day Adventists, but even if he did, is it any worse than the insults on Christians that the left spews every day? if anything, this should have gained the votes from democrats. NOT AN ISSUE.
have no clue what you speak of when saying he claimed all Iowans were stupid.. but, they did somehow manage to give obama the nod of approval, so maybe there is some truth to that? and if not all, enough of them have proven stupidity to warrant a comment.

 

[TheOldSchool]

We all love Trump!!

He's got my primary vote that's for sure

Yup, mine too!

For every supposed Democratic Trump voter, there will be 2 moderate Republicans that will vote Hillary over Trump in the General.

Did you mean treasonous instead of moderate?
would have made much more sense.

Hmm I don't recall any republicans committing treason since the letter to Iran from the 47. I need to pay more attention.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Concerning Democrats supporting Trump in the primaries.

That is useless. You need Democrats supporting Trump in the generals.

There is a name for this tactic--where partisans of one party d what they can to have a candidate in the other party nominated all so that candidate will lose horribly in the main(general) election?

I personally prefer Kasich. Compared t Trump, he is a mild mannered strategic thinker that is known for getting problems solved..

Now the Dem party would hate to see Kasich as the nominee. But Trump makes the lefties gasp in orgasmic spiritual enlightenment.

Old School is basically have hot sex with the "Trump as Republican ominee" meme and no Right winger has caught on yet. A lot o Dems are messing their underpants do to goosed balls--not loose bowels!

What's Kasich polling at?

Let's see; he's polling at about 3% which trails "I thought he already dropped out" at 5%.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

We all love Trump!!

He's got my primary vote that's for sure

Yup, mine too!

For every supposed Democratic Trump voter, there will be 2 moderate Republicans that will vote Hillary over Trump in the General.

Did you mean treasonous instead of moderate?
would have made much more sense.

Hmm I don't recall any republicans committing treason since the letter to Iran from the 47. I need to pay more attention.

any politician that goes along with the left is guilty of treason.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We all love Trump!!

He's got my primary vote that's for sure

Yup, mine too!

For every supposed Democratic Trump voter, there will be 2 moderate Republicans that will vote Hillary over Trump in the General.

You know the proper name for a moderate Republican is don't you?

Democrat.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

A lot of Republicans didn't approve of Romney, but they held their nose and voted for him anyway. When it comes down to a choice between Hillary and Trump, no legitimate Republican is going to vote for Hillary.

who said Republicans will vote for Clinton? (sheesh)

RW's held their nose and voted for Willard huh? He LOST !!! so Maybe they'll hold their nose and vote for Trump too.

You brought up the republicans who disapprove of Trump.

Brit pointed out that that does not mean that they won't vote for him when it comes down to him or Hillary.

Your response made no sense.

Yes. Romney lost. Trump is not Romney.

The point is your point about the 27% was answered.

Do you want to admit that, or address it, or defend it, or are you just going to throw the next thing against the wall to see if it sticks?

one more time, I'll go r e a l s l o w ... O'Rilley was curious to see if the anti Trump Republicans EVEN SHOW UP AT THE POLLS TO VOTE .. he seems to believe they won''t and neither do I .

stick that UP your wall.

the lessor of two evils will insure that the vast majority of anti Trump republicans show up to vote for Trump.
There is no way an American would risk someone like Hillary or Bernie in the White House.

Republicans were in the process of re-branding. They don't want Donald. Read the news ...

Which republicans would that be ?

The ones who are analogous to the democrats who are calling for Debbie Ugly Wasserman Stupid Shultz to step down ?

 

[TheOldSchool]

We all love Trump!!

He's got my primary vote that's for sure

Yup, mine too!

For every supposed Democratic Trump voter, there will be 2 moderate Republicans that will vote Hillary over Trump in the General.

You know the proper name for a moderate Republican is don't you?

Democrat.

You guys are reaping what your party has sewn. They've been encouraging you to listen to crazy ideologues on the radio and faux news since Rush started decades ago, and the culmination of that is Donald Trump. A billionaire reality star who is not a conservative but who stirs you up into a xenophobic frenzy as good as Hannity or Levin could ever hope to. Some of your politicians stick to demonizing a few groups, Trump demonizes EVERYONE! And you rubes eat it up!

After you nominate him, you shouldn't be surprised that the people he demonized, a majority of the population, voted for the other guy.