Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

Please quote the Constitutional text specifically guaranteeing the right to abortion.

The 14th Amendment.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

Laws which deny women the right to decide whether to have a baby denies her constitutional right to life and liberty. And don't start with rights for the zygote. It doesn't have rights.

That's bullshit.

By exactly the same logic, any law telling me that I don't have a right to kill you is a violation of my right to life and liberty.

Really, any law that compels or prohibits any behavior is, strictly speaking a violation of liberty.

The point, of course, is that in some cases, one's liberty must be abridged in order to protect the rights of another, such as the right of any human being (whether you, an unborn child, or anyone else) not to be murdered in cold blood.

If the Fourteenth Amendment can legitimately be twisted, as you are trying to do, to protect the “right” to murder an innocent child, then really, what laws can rightfully exist to prohibit any behavior?

You are a living breathing human being, you have righits, and no one has the right to take YOUR life. A zygote, or a fetus is not breathing, and under the Holy Bible, and all human laws since the beginning of time, has no rights.

Which makes moot your contention that a woman has no right to decide whether or not to have a baby, and has no dominion over her own body.

It's not "Bullshit". Even the Bible says that Adam didn't not become human until God "breathed life" into him. Breathe is life. Bible also says that God "formed" Adam, and when God was happy with His creation, he "breathed" life into him. Thus, while a human is being formed, he/she is not yet human or alive.

The 14th Amendment and the right of a woman have dominion over her own body are settled law, and one which men never questioned, until women starting demanding the right to vote. The moment women starting pushing for rights, men have tried to force them to have babies they cannot afford to have.

Kind of how as soon as black people starting voting in large numbers, white men seek to suppress their right to vote. And just like the argument against voting, it's to protect "rights" that aren't in danger.

The moment we starting advocating for things that really will save the lives of babies - things like universal health care, better education for poor children, higher wages for their mothers, mandated vacations for working families, family leave to care for sick family members, or anything to improve the health or the lives of poor children, you oppose it and point to the parents for being irresponsible enough to have children they can't afford to care for.

I'll believe you care about babies, when you starting advocating for living breathing children, and not just the unborn. Until you do, you're just anyother lying right winger.
 
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um, that's a mythology. A real frog will get out of the water when the water temperature changes. On the other hand, if you drop a frog into boiling water, he'll probably die of shock. The actual science is different from the Right Wing Metaphor.

Nope. A frog needs something hard in which to use his legs to jump. The frog just dies.

What you have to remember is the reason you're safe in your home is because people like me have guns in ours. Criminals don't know if you have a gun or not, so they don't dare rob you while you're home. Take guns away from law abiding citizens, and they will know you are not armed and can't defend yourself.

Except other countries ban or limit gun ownership and DON'T Have the kinds of problems we have. The concept of "it can't be done" is ridiculous because it HAS been done in Germany, the UK , Japan and a host of other countries.

And I already posted charts of the problems they do have because they can't protect themselves. They have higher crime rates in other areas like rapes, assaults, and armed robberies. Instead of getting shot, they get sliced up like a side of beef. They have a knife ban. You can't have a knife on your person just like felons here can't have a gun. But like here, the bad guys don't obey the laws, the unsuspecting law abiding citizen does, and that's how they become victims.

No, guy, I worry more about a nut with a gun than I do with a crook without a gun. So a mugger takes my wallet. I never carry more than $100.00 on me, and I can cancel my credit cards. That's MUCH less of a problem than if I'm watching a movie and James Holmes pops in because he thinks he's The Joker. Or if Richard Paddock decides to spray down a concert with bullets because he's dying anyway, and wants to take a bunch of other people with him.

Again, those people will always get guns if they want them. Every place would be a gun-free zone which attracts them to various places today. All crooks carry guns. Nobody is going to mug you unarmed.

witnessla.com
witnessla.com

Another leftist lying site that has been debunked a while ago.


I live in a country where handguns are carefully regulated, and none of the stuff you claim will happen without guns to defend yourselves, is happening here. Our murder rate is 1/7th of the USA, and our violent crime statistics are much lower than yours.

If owning guns kept Americans "safe", your nation wouldn't be the most violent in the first world. And don't hand me that bullshit that it's because of minorities.
Once again you post nothing but lies and expose what a colossal idiot you are:

Violent crime rate in USA: 506.5 per 100,000
Violent crime rate in KKKanada: 1300 per 100,000

Your bullshit is too easy to expose.



 
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Please quote the Constitutional text specifically guaranteeing the right to abortion.

The 14th Amendment.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

Laws which deny women the right to decide whether to have a baby denies her constitutional right to life and liberty. And don't start with rights for the zygote. It doesn't have rights.

That's bullshit.

By exactly the same logic, any law telling me that I don't have a right to kill you is a violation of my right to life and liberty.

Really, any law that compels or prohibits any behavior is, strictly speaking a violation of liberty.

The point, of course, is that in some cases, one's liberty must be abridged in order to protect the rights of another, such as the right of any human being (whether you, an unborn child, or anyone else) not to be murdered in cold blood.

If the Fourteenth Amendment can legitimately be twisted, as you are trying to do, to protect the “right” to murder an innocent child, then really, what laws can rightfully exist to prohibit any behavior?

You are a living breathing human being, you have righits, and no one has the right to take YOUR life. A zygote, or a fetus is not breathing, and under the Holy Bible, and all human laws since the beginning of time, has no rights.

Which makes moot your contention that a woman has no right to decide whether or not to have a baby, and has no dominion over her own body.

It's not "Bullshit". Even the Bible says that Adam didn't not become human until God "breathed life" into him. Breathe is life. Bible also says that God "formed" Adam, and when God was happy with His creation, he "breathed" life into him. Thus, while a human is being formed, he/she is not yet human or alive.

The 14th Amendment and the right of a woman have dominion over her own body are settled law, and one which men never questioned, until women starting demanding the right to vote. The moment women starting pushing for rights, men have tried to force them to have babies they cannot afford to have.

Kind of how as soon as black people starting voting in large numbers, white men seek to suppress their right to vote. And just like the argument against voting, it's to protect "rights" that aren't in danger.

The moment we starting advocating for things that really will save the lives of babies - things like universal health care, better education for poor children, higher wages for their mothers, mandated vacations for working families, family leave to care for sick family members, or anything to improve the health or the lives of poor children, you oppose it and point to the parents for being irresponsible enough to have children they can't afford to care for.

I'll believe you care about babies, when you starting advocating for living breathing children, and not just the unborn. Until you do, you're just anyother lying right winger.
A zygote, or a fetus is not breathing, and under the Holy Bible, and all human laws since the beginning of time, has no rights.

Once again you demonstrate you are a lying sack of shit who has no clue about what goes on in America.

Why don't you just STFU and stay in KKKanada.

 
um, that's a mythology. A real frog will get out of the water when the water temperature changes. On the other hand, if you drop a frog into boiling water, he'll probably die of shock. The actual science is different from the Right Wing Metaphor.

Nope. A frog needs something hard in which to use his legs to jump. The frog just dies.

What you have to remember is the reason you're safe in your home is because people like me have guns in ours. Criminals don't know if you have a gun or not, so they don't dare rob you while you're home. Take guns away from law abiding citizens, and they will know you are not armed and can't defend yourself.

Except other countries ban or limit gun ownership and DON'T Have the kinds of problems we have. The concept of "it can't be done" is ridiculous because it HAS been done in Germany, the UK , Japan and a host of other countries.

And I already posted charts of the problems they do have because they can't protect themselves. They have higher crime rates in other areas like rapes, assaults, and armed robberies. Instead of getting shot, they get sliced up like a side of beef. They have a knife ban. You can't have a knife on your person just like felons here can't have a gun. But like here, the bad guys don't obey the laws, the unsuspecting law abiding citizen does, and that's how they become victims.

No, guy, I worry more about a nut with a gun than I do with a crook without a gun. So a mugger takes my wallet. I never carry more than $100.00 on me, and I can cancel my credit cards. That's MUCH less of a problem than if I'm watching a movie and James Holmes pops in because he thinks he's The Joker. Or if Richard Paddock decides to spray down a concert with bullets because he's dying anyway, and wants to take a bunch of other people with him.

Again, those people will always get guns if they want them. Every place would be a gun-free zone which attracts them to various places today. All crooks carry guns. Nobody is going to mug you unarmed.

witnessla.com
witnessla.com

Another leftist lying site that has been debunked a while ago.


I live in a country where handguns are carefully regulated, and none of the stuff you claim will happen without guns to defend yourselves, is happening here. Our murder rate is 1/7th of the USA, and our violent crime statistics are much lower than yours.

If owning guns kept Americans "safe", your nation wouldn't be the most violent in the first world. And don't hand me that bullshit that it's because of minorities.
Once again you post nothing but lies and expose what a colossal idiot you are:

Violent crime rate in USA: 506.5 per 100,000
Violent crime rate in KKKanada: 1300 per 100,000

You bullshit is too easy to expose.




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Which makes moot your contention that a woman has no right to decide whether or not to have a baby, and has no dominion over her own body.

Sure she has a right to have a baby, but morally she exercised that right when she hopped in the sack.

Dementia Joe was refused Holy Communion because of his stance on abortion, and so was John FFFFFn Kerry. Obviously the Catholic religion disagrees with you as to when a fetus is a human being.
 
um, that's a mythology. A real frog will get out of the water when the water temperature changes. On the other hand, if you drop a frog into boiling water, he'll probably die of shock. The actual science is different from the Right Wing Metaphor.

Nope. A frog needs something hard in which to use his legs to jump. The frog just dies.

What you have to remember is the reason you're safe in your home is because people like me have guns in ours. Criminals don't know if you have a gun or not, so they don't dare rob you while you're home. Take guns away from law abiding citizens, and they will know you are not armed and can't defend yourself.

Except other countries ban or limit gun ownership and DON'T Have the kinds of problems we have. The concept of "it can't be done" is ridiculous because it HAS been done in Germany, the UK , Japan and a host of other countries.

And I already posted charts of the problems they do have because they can't protect themselves. They have higher crime rates in other areas like rapes, assaults, and armed robberies. Instead of getting shot, they get sliced up like a side of beef. They have a knife ban. You can't have a knife on your person just like felons here can't have a gun. But like here, the bad guys don't obey the laws, the unsuspecting law abiding citizen does, and that's how they become victims.

No, guy, I worry more about a nut with a gun than I do with a crook without a gun. So a mugger takes my wallet. I never carry more than $100.00 on me, and I can cancel my credit cards. That's MUCH less of a problem than if I'm watching a movie and James Holmes pops in because he thinks he's The Joker. Or if Richard Paddock decides to spray down a concert with bullets because he's dying anyway, and wants to take a bunch of other people with him.

Again, those people will always get guns if they want them. Every place would be a gun-free zone which attracts them to various places today. All crooks carry guns. Nobody is going to mug you unarmed.

witnessla.com
witnessla.com

Another leftist lying site that has been debunked a while ago.


I live in a country where handguns are carefully regulated, and none of the stuff you claim will happen without guns to defend yourselves, is happening here. Our murder rate is 1/7th of the USA, and our violent crime statistics are much lower than yours.

If owning guns kept Americans "safe", your nation wouldn't be the most violent in the first world. And don't hand me that bullshit that it's because of minorities.
Once again you post nothing but lies and expose what a colossal idiot you are:

Violent crime rate in USA: 506.5 per 100,000
Violent crime rate in KKKanada: 1300 per 100,000

Your bullshit is too easy to expose.



say what?


USA Ranked 30th. 43% more than Canada

Canada is ranked 53th.
 
um, that's a mythology. A real frog will get out of the water when the water temperature changes. On the other hand, if you drop a frog into boiling water, he'll probably die of shock. The actual science is different from the Right Wing Metaphor.

Nope. A frog needs something hard in which to use his legs to jump. The frog just dies.

What you have to remember is the reason you're safe in your home is because people like me have guns in ours. Criminals don't know if you have a gun or not, so they don't dare rob you while you're home. Take guns away from law abiding citizens, and they will know you are not armed and can't defend yourself.

Except other countries ban or limit gun ownership and DON'T Have the kinds of problems we have. The concept of "it can't be done" is ridiculous because it HAS been done in Germany, the UK , Japan and a host of other countries.

And I already posted charts of the problems they do have because they can't protect themselves. They have higher crime rates in other areas like rapes, assaults, and armed robberies. Instead of getting shot, they get sliced up like a side of beef. They have a knife ban. You can't have a knife on your person just like felons here can't have a gun. But like here, the bad guys don't obey the laws, the unsuspecting law abiding citizen does, and that's how they become victims.

No, guy, I worry more about a nut with a gun than I do with a crook without a gun. So a mugger takes my wallet. I never carry more than $100.00 on me, and I can cancel my credit cards. That's MUCH less of a problem than if I'm watching a movie and James Holmes pops in because he thinks he's The Joker. Or if Richard Paddock decides to spray down a concert with bullets because he's dying anyway, and wants to take a bunch of other people with him.

Again, those people will always get guns if they want them. Every place would be a gun-free zone which attracts them to various places today. All crooks carry guns. Nobody is going to mug you unarmed.

witnessla.com
witnessla.com

Another leftist lying site that has been debunked a while ago.


I live in a country where handguns are carefully regulated, and none of the stuff you claim will happen without guns to defend yourselves, is happening here. Our murder rate is 1/7th of the USA, and our violent crime statistics are much lower than yours.

If owning guns kept Americans "safe", your nation wouldn't be the most violent in the first world. And don't hand me that bullshit that it's because of minorities.
Once again you post nothing but lies and expose what a colossal idiot you are:

Violent crime rate in USA: 506.5 per 100,000
Violent crime rate in KKKanada: 1300 per 100,000

Your bullshit is too easy to expose.



say what?


USA Ranked 30th. 43% more than Canada

Canada is ranked 53th.
I have no idea who nationmaster is, or what you think their 10 year old numbers mean.
 
A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.


Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

If a woman wants an abortion, Republicans have insisted that she wait three days and think about it, view ultra sounds of the fetus, and undergo other unnecessary medical tests before the woman can have a legal abortion and you don't have any problem with any of these waiting periods, and additional restrictions. You're all for making it as difficult and expensive as possible to have an abortion.

If a Republican wants a gun, he or she should have to go through the same level of bullshit that a woman goes through to get an abortion. Fair is fair.

Yes, because killing a baby is exactly the same as purchasing an inanimate object . . . if you're a driveling government-worshipping drone from LightMyFart, Canada.

Feel free to run YOUR country however you like. Feel free, also, to mind your own fucking business about how we run OUR country, which you are not part of and in which we do not want your shriveled, meddling ass. The fact that you don't like what we're doing is, as always, an indicator that we should do more of it.
 
I live in a country where handguns are carefully regulated…

If you don't live in the United States, and you're not a citizen thereof, then what business is it of yours to tell us what rights we may or may not recognize and uphold?

That's what I keep telling her. At no point in time has anyone in this country said, "Oh, please, tell us how we can run our country to suit people who aren't part of it?"
 
A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.


Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

If a woman wants an abortion, Republicans have insisted that she wait three days and think about it, view ultra sounds of the fetus, and undergo other unnecessary medical tests before the woman can have a legal abortion and you don't have any problem with any of these waiting periods, and additional restrictions. You're all for making it as difficult and expensive as possible to have an abortion.

If a Republican wants a gun, he or she should have to go through the same level of bullshit that a woman goes through to get an abortion. Fair is fair.

Please quote the Constitutional text specifically guaranteeing the right to abortion.

The 14th Amendment.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

Laws which deny women the right to decide whether to have a baby denies her constitutional right to life and liberty. And don't start with rights for the zygote. It doesn't have rights.

Look, LizardBitch, we know you really enjoy a good baby-killing, and that it's your major hobby and obsession in life. But if you could quite possibly stop trying to shoehorn your desire for infanticide into every topic of conversation - especially conversations that are none of your business in the first place, since no one asked your foreign ass how we should run OUR country - that would be great.

Go obsess about the wonders and magic of child murder by yourself, please.
 
The best estimate is 40 percent of Americans own a gun. That I believe would be around 132 million people so good luck trying to do evaluations of that many people and their family.


They don't plan to do evalutations....they will simply say without one, they can confiscate your guns.......therefore, it is on you to get and prove you have had it.....and anytime you interact with police, you will be on the spot and in danger of felony violations of those laws ....
Two things first I really don’t see such a bill getting 60 votes in the Senate Democrat Senators in moderate or red states would be out in the next election if they voted for it their seat in Congress means way to much to them to do that. Second if by some miracle it did get passed it’s all but assured the courts would strike it down.


I am sad to say that your post is based more on hope than reality.

Why would it need 60 votes? It is a 50-50 split and harris will break the tie.......

And which court would strike it down? The 9th, the 4th, the 2nd? Where gun rights go to die? Followed up be a refusal to hear the case by Roberts and the others?
Legislation unless I have missed something still needs 60 votes to pass in the Senate. Cabinet nominees and lower court justices and now even Supreme Court justices can be confirmed with the simple majority vote. You can get around it with some budget issues but not legislation as far as I know.
 
I live in a country where handguns are carefully regulated, and none of the stuff you claim will happen without guns to defend yourselves, is happening here. Our murder rate is 1/7th of the USA, and our violent crime statistics are much lower than yours.

If owning guns kept Americans "safe", your nation wouldn't be the most violent in the first world. And don't hand me that bullshit that it's because of minorities.

All you have to do is look at statistics to see who's doing the most murders per capita. In the US, you are six times more likely to be murdered by a black than a white. Europe is having all kinds of problem with violence and crime. They are gun free just like Canada. Explain that one.

No, you're not. You're far more likely to be murdered by a member of your own race than someone outside your race. More than 5 times more likely to be killed by a member of your own race than a minority.


As a white woman, I am far more likely to be murdered by my white male partner, or a member of my own family, than I am by a black stranger.

Crime statistics in Canada and Europe are quite different than American crime statistics. In the USA, only violent rapes are counted in the "sexual assaults" category. In the rest of the world, groping, and attempted rape are also counted as "sexual assaults". Basically, if no one goes to the hospital or the morgue, it's not reported as a "violent" crime, whereas in the rest of the world, if two guys have a fight outside the bar, and someone calls the cops, it's reported in their numbers as a "violent" crime, even if nobody was injured.
 
The best estimate is 40 percent of Americans own a gun. That I believe would be around 132 million people so good luck trying to do evaluations of that many people and their family.


They don't plan to do evalutations....they will simply say without one, they can confiscate your guns.......therefore, it is on you to get and prove you have had it.....and anytime you interact with police, you will be on the spot and in danger of felony violations of those laws ....
Two things first I really don’t see such a bill getting 60 votes in the Senate Democrat Senators in moderate or red states would be out in the next election if they voted for it their seat in Congress means way to much to them to do that. Second if by some miracle it did get passed it’s all but assured the courts would strike it down.


I am sad to say that your post is based more on hope than reality.

Why would it need 60 votes? It is a 50-50 split and harris will break the tie.......

And which court would strike it down? The 9th, the 4th, the 2nd? Where gun rights go to die? Followed up be a refusal to hear the case by Roberts and the others?
Legislation unless I have missed something still needs 60 votes to pass in the Senate. Cabinet nominees and lower court justices and now even Supreme Court justices can be confirmed with the simple majority vote. You can get around it with some budget issues but not legislation as far as I know.

Reconcilliation.
 
The best estimate is 40 percent of Americans own a gun. That I believe would be around 132 million people so good luck trying to do evaluations of that many people and their family.


They don't plan to do evalutations....they will simply say without one, they can confiscate your guns.......therefore, it is on you to get and prove you have had it.....and anytime you interact with police, you will be on the spot and in danger of felony violations of those laws ....
Two things first I really don’t see such a bill getting 60 votes in the Senate Democrat Senators in moderate or red states would be out in the next election if they voted for it their seat in Congress means way to much to them to do that. Second if by some miracle it did get passed it’s all but assured the courts would strike it down.


I am sad to say that your post is based more on hope than reality.

Why would it need 60 votes? It is a 50-50 split and harris will break the tie.......

And which court would strike it down? The 9th, the 4th, the 2nd? Where gun rights go to die? Followed up be a refusal to hear the case by Roberts and the others?
Legislation unless I have missed something still needs 60 votes to pass in the Senate. Cabinet nominees and lower court justices and now even Supreme Court justices can be confirmed with the simple majority vote. You can get around it with some budget issues but not legislation as far as I know.

Reconcilliation.
That’s for budget issues it would not apply for this. It’s how Trump got his border wall through and how Biden could get his 1.9 trillion stimulus through if he had to.
 
I live in a country where handguns are carefully regulated, and none of the stuff you claim will happen without guns to defend yourselves, is happening here. Our murder rate is 1/7th of the USA, and our violent crime statistics are much lower than yours.

If owning guns kept Americans "safe", your nation wouldn't be the most violent in the first world. And don't hand me that bullshit that it's because of minorities.

All you have to do is look at statistics to see who's doing the most murders per capita. In the US, you are six times more likely to be murdered by a black than a white. Europe is having all kinds of problem with violence and crime. They are gun free just like Canada. Explain that one.

No, you're not. You're far more likely to be murdered by a member of your own race than someone outside your race. More than 5 times more likely to be killed by a member of your own race than a minority.


As a white woman, I am far more likely to be murdered by my white male partner, or a member of my own family, than I am by a black stranger.

Crime statistics in Canada and Europe are quite different than American crime statistics. In the USA, only violent rapes are counted in the "sexual assaults" category. In the rest of the world, groping, and attempted rape are also counted as "sexual assaults". Basically, if no one goes to the hospital or the morgue, it's not reported as a "violent" crime, whereas in the rest of the world, if two guys have a fight outside the bar, and someone calls the cops, it's reported in their numbers as a "violent" crime, even if nobody was injured.
As a white woman, I am far more likely to be murdered by my white male partner, or a member of my own family, than I am by a black stranger.

Could be because your racist KKKanada only has a black population of 3.5%, Dummy.

But I can understand why those who know you best would be the most likely to kill you.
 
We need a "Catch 22" amendment:

Anyone that wants to own a gun has to be crazy, so they should not be allowed to own a gun.

Only people that do not want a gun should be allowed to own guns.

Simple.
 

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