Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

[JoeB131]

Most sane people tend not to look very favorably on this sort of behavior…

I don't look upon it favorably. I would have liked to have avoided it by doing serious police and racial reform years ago.

You guys didn't do that. You looked at cops murdering innocent black people and kept making excuses for the cops.

By law, the “unorganized militia” still exists, and consists of every able-bodied man between the ages of 18 and 45 with some exceptions. The act which established the National Guard defined it as the “organized militia” separate from the previously-existing unorganized militia.

There are a lot of goofy laws that are still on the books. So what you are saying is that if you rewrite the militia law, (which is an awesome idea) we can get sensible gun control.

Okay, Mormon Bob. Please tell me how Adam Lanza is part of an "Unorganized Militia". Or Joker Holmes. Or Nicholas Cruz. Tell me one good reason why THOSE guys should be allowed to have access to military grade weaponry?

Of course, you're arguing with Incel Joe who is firmly on the side of the subhuman criminal pieces of shit that the whore helped bail out so that they could continue to commit more acts of violence, destruction, and terrorism.

Mormon Bob is on the side of the racist pieces of shit who murder black children, because they have badges. Without them, we wouldn't have had riots.

Every successful abortion kills an innocent human being. That we allow this savage procedure at all is a deep, dark, shameful stain stain on our society. Having any willing part ion an abortion ought to be treated the same as any other instance of first-degree murder against an innocent child.

Fetuses aren't people. Women will get abortions no matter what the law is. The very fact you are okay with racist cops shooting black people but get all upset about aborting kidney-bean sized fetuses... well, kind of what you'd expect from a member of a racist cult.

 

[JoeB131]

Especially those of us who carry guns outside our home. CCW holders have the lowest crime rate of any group of people including police officers.

Concealed Carry Murders: Permit-Holders Killed More Than 1,300 People in Last Decade |

witnessla.com

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He was always strange, but again, well known to people in Vegas and successful. He ran into trouble later on as you posted, but nobody knew that except him and whoever prescribed him the medications. That all came out after the fact. I'm sure most people in his situation are not dangerous. Everybody has a problem of some sort.

The very minute they put him on the Anti-Crazy pills, they should have stopped by and confiscated all of his guns. Problem solved.

I really haven't met anybody like that. And no, keyboard Rambo's don't count. You don't even understand the real reason Democrats want to disarm the public. You're like that happy frog in a pot of ice cold water on top of the stove.

um, that's a mythology. A real frog will get out of the water when the water temperature changes. On the other hand, if you drop a frog into boiling water, he'll probably die of shock. The actual science is different from the Right Wing Metaphor.

The criminals will always have guns no matter what we do, just like they've always had drugs in spite of all the laws and rehab we have to stop them.

Except other countries ban or limit gun ownership and DON'T Have the kinds of problems we have. The concept of "it can't be done" is ridiculous because it HAS been done in Germany, the UK , Japan and a host of other countries.

You on the left want a disarmed society to give them an upper-hand against us. I can't think of anything stupider than that. It's like insisting you go to a fight with your wrists handcuffed.

No, guy, I worry more about a nut with a gun than I do with a crook without a gun. So a mugger takes my wallet. I never carry more than $100.00 on me, and I can cancel my credit cards. That's MUCH less of a problem than if I'm watching a movie and James Holmes pops in because he thinks he's The Joker. Or if Richard Paddock decides to spray down a concert with bullets because he's dying anyway, and wants to take a bunch of other people with him.

 

[BertramN]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

After watching the treasonous trump Nazis' January 6th coup attempt, background checks should be mandatory AND thorough. The lunatic conspiracy theories the trump Nazis concoct, believe, and propagate, coupled with the mass shooting events in this country, prove the time has long since passed to establish sensible restrictions on the purchase and ownership of firearms by certain individuals.

Five types of gun laws the Founding Fathers loved

The Second Amendment is one of the most frequently cited provisions in the American Constitution, but also one of the most poorly understood. The 27 words that constitute the Second Amendment seem to baffle modern Americans on both the left and right. Ironically, those on both ends of our...

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[Bob Blaylock]

Mormon Bob is on the side of the racist pieces of shit who murder black children, because they have badges. Without them, we wouldn't have had riots.

Incel Joe is very fond of falsely accusing others of racism, but if you look through each of our bodies of work, you'll find that only he ever expresses racist beliefs.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

The thread premise is a lie from an unreliable source and rightwing fake news site.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

um, that's a mythology. A real frog will get out of the water when the water temperature changes. On the other hand, if you drop a frog into boiling water, he'll probably die of shock. The actual science is different from the Right Wing Metaphor.

Nope. A frog needs something hard in which to use his legs to jump. The frog just dies.

What you have to remember is the reason you're safe in your home is because people like me have guns in ours. Criminals don't know if you have a gun or not, so they don't dare rob you while you're home. Take guns away from law abiding citizens, and they will know you are not armed and can't defend yourself.

Except other countries ban or limit gun ownership and DON'T Have the kinds of problems we have. The concept of "it can't be done" is ridiculous because it HAS been done in Germany, the UK , Japan and a host of other countries.

And I already posted charts of the problems they do have because they can't protect themselves. They have higher crime rates in other areas like rapes, assaults, and armed robberies. Instead of getting shot, they get sliced up like a side of beef. They have a knife ban. You can't have a knife on your person just like felons here can't have a gun. But like here, the bad guys don't obey the laws, the unsuspecting law abiding citizen does, and that's how they become victims.

No, guy, I worry more about a nut with a gun than I do with a crook without a gun. So a mugger takes my wallet. I never carry more than $100.00 on me, and I can cancel my credit cards. That's MUCH less of a problem than if I'm watching a movie and James Holmes pops in because he thinks he's The Joker. Or if Richard Paddock decides to spray down a concert with bullets because he's dying anyway, and wants to take a bunch of other people with him.

Again, those people will always get guns if they want them. Every place would be a gun-free zone which attracts them to various places today. All crooks carry guns. Nobody is going to mug you unarmed.

witnessla.com

Another leftist lying site that has been debunked a while ago.

Debunking the Myth of "Concealed-Carry Killers"

The Violence Policy Center—a gun control advocacy group—released a study last month it wrongly claims shows that “too many concealed-carry permit holders are a direct threat to public safety.” That claim rests on an analysis of a database documenting “non-self-defense incidents,” which the...

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[Dragonlady]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

If a woman wants an abortion, Republicans have insisted that she wait three days and think about it, view ultra sounds of the fetus, and undergo other unnecessary medical tests before the woman can have a legal abortion and you don't have any problem with any of these waiting periods, and additional restrictions. You're all for making it as difficult and expensive as possible to have an abortion.

If a Republican wants a gun, he or she should have to go through the same level of bullshit that a woman goes through to get an abortion. Fair is fair.

Please quote the Constitutional text specifically guaranteeing the right to abortion.

The 14th Amendment.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

Laws which deny women the right to decide whether to have a baby denies her constitutional right to life and liberty. And don't start with rights for the zygote. It doesn't have rights.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Please quote the Constitutional text specifically guaranteeing the right to abortion.

The 14th Amendment.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

Laws which deny women the right to decide whether to have a baby denies her constitutional right to life and liberty. And don't start with rights for the zygote. It doesn't have rights.

That's bullshit.

By exactly the same logic, any law telling me that I don't have a right to kill you is a violation of my right to life and liberty.

Really, any law that compels or prohibits any behavior is, strictly speaking a violation of liberty.

The point, of course, is that in some cases, one's liberty must be abridged in order to protect the rights of another, such as the right of any human being (whether you, an unborn child, or anyone else) not to be murdered in cold blood.

If the Fourteenth Amendment can legitimately be twisted, as you are trying to do, to protect the “right” to murder an innocent child, then really, what laws can rightfully exist to prohibit any behavior?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If the Fourteenth Amendment can legitimately be twisted, as you are trying to do, to protect the “right” to murder an innocent child, then really, what laws can rightfully exist to prohibit any behavior?

If the founders could come back today to rewrite the Constitution, they'd have to make it 40 pages long to have a lot of color pictures so liberals could understand it.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Most sane people tend not to look very favorably on this sort of behavior…
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Apparently, C_Clayton_Jones disagrees. But then I doubt if anyone considers him to be representative of sane people; the vast majority of whom I still stand by my claim that they do not approve of this sort of behavior.

 

[hadit]

The top priority is to get the illegal guns out of the hands of the bad guys. Democrats keep focusing or leaning on the good guys with guns. Maybe we should start these psychological tests of illegal gun owners and their family members in South Chicago or West Baltimore.

Or maybe we can get the gun industry to stop dumping guns into these neighborhoods.

Case in point. Until 2010, Chicago had a pretty strict gun law. Then the National Rampage Association got rid of Chicago's gun law and forced Illinois to allow conceal carry. Well, lo and behold gun shops popped up on every corner in Chicago.

As a result, homicides in Chicago went from 460 in 2010 to 784 in 2016.

Forced? Wow, that's some power right there. Yet you conveniently and totally ignore the legislators that were "forced" to write and vote for this legislation. Shouldn't they be brought under scrutiny, or is this another "orange man bad" moment?

 

[Nostra]

There is no right "not to worry," NAZI. The promise of safety is one of the main ways aspiring dictators con people into throwing away their freedom.

There isn't a 'Right" to own a gun, either. There's a right to belong to a well-regulated militia.

You have a few hundred million arrests to make, Stupid.

 

[Nostra]

No surprise you count on a fellow liberal that wants to destroy rights.

Naw, man, I want the right to be able to go to the movies or the mall or shopping or work or send kids to school without having to worry some maniac with a gun is going to spray the crowd with lead.

Show me where it says I must give up a Constitutional right simply because you are a pants pissing Snowflake, Buttercup.

JoeB131 Have you found where it says the above yet?

 

[bripat9643]

There is no right "not to worry," NAZI. The promise of safety is one of the main ways aspiring dictators con people into throwing away their freedom.

There isn't a 'Right" to own a gun, either. There's a right to belong to a well-regulated militia.

Horseshit, NAZI. The SC has already ruled that the 2nd Amendment refers to an individual right. The theory of groups rights is nonsensical. What is gained from the right to belong to a militia? Group rights are not rights at all.

 

[Nostra]

It doesn't make a difference. You can either violate constitutional rights or you can't. You on the left feel you can pick and choose which rights you can violate when commies get in charge. How is a $800 fee for this psychological exam any different than a poll tax? You won't like when the shoe is on the other foot. And don't say we won't be in power again. Why do you think the Nazis are so scared of Donald Trump they are taking desperate measures to stop him from running in four years? If you can impeach a President for exercising his first amendment constitutional rights, we will be doing the same in 2022.

He's not being impeached for his First Amendment Rights. He's being impeached for inciting a riot and getting half a dozen people killed.

But to the point, the Second Amendment is about Well-Regulated Militias, and frankly, an $800.00 exam is perfectly reasonable. The Army does psych evaluations on new members... probably costs more than $800.00 to administer, too.

What evidence did they submit for their Shampeachment 2.0?

 

[Correll]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Yes, the last thing we'd want is for crazy people to be denied access to guns.

Instead, we need to keep teaching our kids to do Active Shooter Drills and cower behind their desks.

The top priority is to get the illegal guns out of the hands of the bad guys. Democrats keep focusing or leaning on the good guys with guns. Maybe we should start these psychological tests of illegal gun owners and their family members in South Chicago or West Baltimore.

Better yet, psychological tests of Democrats. Lets face it. They are not right in the head.

 

[Nostra]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

If a woman wants an abortion, Republicans have insisted that she wait three days and think about it, view ultra sounds of the fetus, and undergo other unnecessary medical tests before the woman can have a legal abortion and you don't have any problem with any of these waiting periods, and additional restrictions. You're all for making it as difficult and expensive as possible to have an abortion.

If a Republican wants a gun, he or she should have to go through the same level of bullshit that a woman goes through to get an abortion. Fair is fair.

Hey stupid, abortion isn't a right specifically spelled out in the Constitution, but nobody here expects you to have the first clue about OUR Constitution, Halfwit.

 

[ColonelAngus]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

I push for psych evals for liberals.

 

[Nostra]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

If a woman wants an abortion, Republicans have insisted that she wait three days and think about it, view ultra sounds of the fetus, and undergo other unnecessary medical tests before the woman can have a legal abortion and you don't have any problem with any of these waiting periods, and additional restrictions. You're all for making it as difficult and expensive as possible to have an abortion.

If a Republican wants a gun, he or she should have to go through the same level of bullshit that a woman goes through to get an abortion. Fair is fair.

Please quote the Constitutional text specifically guaranteeing the right to abortion.

The 14th Amendment.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

Laws which deny women the right to decide whether to have a baby denies her constitutional right to life and liberty. And don't start with rights for the zygote. It doesn't have rights.

Explain how having a baby takes one's life and liberty away.

This should be good.

 

[ColonelAngus]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Yes, the last thing we'd want is for crazy people to be denied access to guns.

Instead, we need to keep teaching our kids to do Active Shooter Drills and cower behind their desks.

The top priority is to get the illegal guns out of the hands of the bad guys. Democrats keep focusing or leaning on the good guys with guns. Maybe we should start these psychological tests of illegal gun owners and their family members in South Chicago or West Baltimore.

Better yet, psychological tests of Democrats. Lets face it. They are not right in the head.

I didnt read this before I posted.