Faun
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It matters not that you wanted neither to win as one of them was going to regardless of what you wanted. Many folks would have preferred better candidates to choose from; but our choices were still limited to Trump or Hillary. For those who liked neither, which applied to many, the only rational choice was to pick the lesser of two evils. For those who were stupid enough to throw their vote away by not voting or voting 3rd party, fuck 'em. They had their chance to speak up and blew it. No one cares now to hear from those who didn't care enough to speak (vote) then.It's reasonable to talk about who people should vote for when they are bitching about who won. If someone didn't want Trump to win, they should have voted for the only other candidate who had a viable chance at beating them. When you throw away your vote, you throw away your standing to bitch about it with your vote.My approval has nothing to do with this. There were only 2 viable candidates. Reality dictated that, not my approval. There was no chance anyone other than Trump or Hillary was going to win. And anyone upset with Trump in office who either didn't vote or threw their vote away on some other candidate (which is effectively the same as not voting) has no business bitching now. If yiu didn't want Trump, you should have voted for Hillary. If you didn't want Hillary, you should have voted for Trump. There were no other viable candidates.You have no business bitching about Trump if you threw away your only opportunity to vote for the one viable candidate running against him.
As though saying someone can't complain if they don't vote isn't bad enough, here you are saying someone can't complain if they don't vote for someone you approve of as viable?
Here you are talking about who other people should be voting for again.
1) The two major party candidates are the only viable candidates so long as people believe that to be true. If people start to believe otherwise, a third party candidate can become viable. That has to begin somewhere.
2) You are assuming that a person must vote against a candidate. Perhaps some people actually voted FOR a candidate, instead.
3) Your chosen candidate winning the election is not the only reason people cast a presidential vote.
4) Some people didn't want Trump or Clinton in office.
This is still all about your approval. If you approve of the way someone voted, you approve of them complaining. Otherwise, you don't think they have any business bitching. I think that is ridiculous.
Again, if a person didn't want Clinton or Trump as president, why would they have voted for Clinton to keep Trump from office? Why do you insist that someone most vote against a candidate rather than for a candidate? The idea that a vote for someone other than one of the two major party candidates is a 'wasted vote' is one of the more annoying in our political system. How is it throwing away a vote to vote your conscience?
Your entire point is based on the idea that only a vote for a D or R matters. Not only is that something I vehemently disagree with, not to mention insulting to anyone who votes third party/independent, it is playing into the lesser-of-two-evils paradigm that keeps the two major parties in power, as well as assures us we will continue to elect an evil.
I didn't want Trump to win. I didn't want Clinton to win. By your reasoning, not wanting either of those candidates pretty much excludes me from bitching about having one of them in office.
How's this? Did you vote for Clinton? If the answer is yes, you voted to support the Democratic party in pushing a candidate so thoroughly flawed she could not defeat a thin-skinned, juvenile celebrity candidate like Trump. Supporting Clinton gives the Dems impetus to continue pushing crappy candidates forward, so in a way Trump is your fault. Therefore, you shouldn't bitch about him being the new president.![]()