Did Jeb actually say his brother kept us safe?

[Faun]

His brother had an intelligence report about Bin Laden planning an attack on U.S. soil one month before this happened:

Safe?

Are you fucking kidding me?

That happened on W.'s watch.

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Clinton had obl on a silver platter and refused to take him. Had he taken him, 3000 americans wouldnt have died.

What a shame rightards are ineducable.

In late 1995,when Bin Ladin was still in Sudan, the State Department and the CIA learned that Sudanese officials were discussing with the Saudi government the possibility of expelling Bin Ladin. U.S.Ambassador Timothy Carney encouraged the Sudanese to pursue this course. The Saudis, however, did not want Bin Ladin, giving as their reason their revocation of his citizenship.

Sudan’s minister of defense, Fatih Erwa, has claimed that Sudan offered to hand Bin Ladin over to the United States. The Commission has found no credible evidence that this was so. Ambassador Carney had instructions only to push the Sudanese to expel Bin Ladin. Ambassador Carney had no legal basis to ask for more from the Sudanese since, at the time, there was no indictment outstanding.

9/11 Commission Report, chapter 4, pg 109-110

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf​

President Clinton himself said he should have killed Bin Ladin

Thanks for demonstrating once again just how crazy a rightarded brain really is. You watch that video and your deformed brain translate Clinton's actual words into, "President Clinton himself said he should have killed Bin Ladin"

Here we go again with semantics of should or could.
So he said he could have killed him and then says but I didn't.
The point is he did not do it and got 3,000 Americans Killed.

It's not semantics, ya moron. "could" is not "should."

Holyfuckingshit!

Even worse for your obvious dementia is your imaginary claim that killing bin Laden would have prevented 9.11.

So all you have offered is your misunderstanding of the English language and your own invented supposition that killing OBL would have prevented 9.11.

 

[Faun]

After the 9/11/01 attack and the invasion into Afghanistan until the election of Barak Obama there were NO - ZERO - terrorist attacks on US soil.

Your selective memory is faulty...

FBI, Justice: El Al attack was terrorism

 

[easyt65]

As far as your claim that Obama knew who the Boston Marathon bombers were -- I see no evidence of that. All you have shown is that their identity was made known to the FBI in 2011.

I already posted the admission by the FBI and Homeland Security that they WERE warned by the Russians, that they had placed a warning/watch on the older brother, and how they let that warning expire while the older brother was abroad in a terrorist training camp for 6months learning to make the bombs.

"The alert on Tsarnaev was more than a year old and had expired by the time he returned from six months in Dagestan in mid-2012, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told a senate panel Tuesday."
-- KNOWING he was away in a terrorist training camp learning how to be a terrorist / make bombs, they put an alert on him for only 6 months and allowed him to freely walk back into the US, supposedly on an EXPIRED VISA. DESPITE HIM BEING AT A TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP the FBI attempted to justify their failure to do anything about him by saying, "they found no such evidence' that he was involved with Islamic terrorists in the US'.
SERIOUSLY?!

 

[easyt65]

After the 9/11/01 attack and the invasion into Afghanistan until the election of Barak Obama there were NO - ZERO - terrorist attacks on US soil.

Your selective memory is faulty...

FBI, Justice: El Al attack was terrorism

"LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- The FBI and the Department of Justice have agreed with a previous federal conclusion that a shooting at an Israeli airline ticket counter last year fit "the definition of terrorism," an FBI spokesman said Friday."

No 'selective memory'. I guess I left this one out because this wouldn't be a 'terrorist attack' according to Obama - it would be a case of 'traveler's frustration / rage'...sorta like Ft. hood was a case of 'workplace violence'.

 

[bodecea]

His brother had an intelligence report about Bin Laden planning an attack on U.S. soil one month before this happened:

Safe?

Are you fucking kidding me?

That happened on W.'s watch.

Yeah...he said that and not one other member of the debate challenged him.

 

[bodecea]

Gee... that wouldn't have ever happened had pervert Bubba Clinton captured obama bin laden when he was offered to him.

Ooops, I mean osama... there's only a little BS difference between the two.

Yeah...we know the RW still mourns OBL.

 

[easyt65]

Yeah...he said that and not one other member of the debate challenged him.

Perhaps they don't want to anger the Washington Establishment by publicly slapping / insulting their 'chosen one'...

 

[Faun]

As far as your claim that Obama knew who the Boston Marathon bombers were -- I see no evidence of that. All you have shown is that their identity was made known to the FBI in 2011.

I already posted the admission by the FBI and Homeland Security that they WERE warned by the Russians, that they had placed a warning/watch on the older brother, and how they let that warning expire while the older brother was abroad in a terrorist training camp for 6months learning to make the bombs.

"The alert on Tsarnaev was more than a year old and had expired by the time he returned from six months in Dagestan in mid-2012, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told a senate panel Tuesday."
-- KNOWING he was away in a terrorist training camp learning how to be a terrorist / make bombs, they put an alert on him for only 6 months and allowed him to freely walk back into the US, supposedly on an EXPIRED VISA. DESPITE HIM BEING AT A TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP the FBI attempted to justify their failure to do anything about him by saying, "they found no such evidence' that he was involved with Islamic terrorists in the US'.
SERIOUSLY?!

You said, "Obama who knew who the Boston Marathon terrorists were."

I'm still waiting for you to show Obama knew who they were....

Show me the memo the FBI handed him with that information. I can show you the memo Bush was handed warning him that an attack was looming.

 

[bodecea]

His brother had an intelligence report about Bin Laden planning an attack on U.S. soil one month before this happened:

Safe?

Are you fucking kidding me?

That happened on W.'s watch.

\

Clinton had obl on a silver platter and refused to take him. Had he taken him, 3000 americans wouldnt have died.

What a shame rightards are ineducable.

In late 1995,when Bin Ladin was still in Sudan, the State Department and the CIA learned that Sudanese officials were discussing with the Saudi government the possibility of expelling Bin Ladin. U.S.Ambassador Timothy Carney encouraged the Sudanese to pursue this course. The Saudis, however, did not want Bin Ladin, giving as their reason their revocation of his citizenship.

Sudan’s minister of defense, Fatih Erwa, has claimed that Sudan offered to hand Bin Ladin over to the United States. The Commission has found no credible evidence that this was so. Ambassador Carney had instructions only to push the Sudanese to expel Bin Ladin. Ambassador Carney had no legal basis to ask for more from the Sudanese since, at the time, there was no indictment outstanding.

9/11 Commission Report, chapter 4, pg 109-110

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf​

President Clinton himself said he should have killed Bin Ladin


So he wanted to save 300 innocent lives and got 3,000 innocent American lives killed instead.
Seems that the left are ineducable.

Of course he does.....he regrets not doing it knowing what he knows now.....any thinking leader would say the same thing. But that doesn't change that 8 months.....8 months into Bush's Presidency, OBL committed the worst terrorist attack on the U.S. Bush kept us safe? Bullshit.

 

[peach174]

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Clinton had obl on a silver platter and refused to take him. Had he taken him, 3000 americans wouldnt have died.

What a shame rightards are ineducable.

In late 1995,when Bin Ladin was still in Sudan, the State Department and the CIA learned that Sudanese officials were discussing with the Saudi government the possibility of expelling Bin Ladin. U.S.Ambassador Timothy Carney encouraged the Sudanese to pursue this course. The Saudis, however, did not want Bin Ladin, giving as their reason their revocation of his citizenship.

Sudan’s minister of defense, Fatih Erwa, has claimed that Sudan offered to hand Bin Ladin over to the United States. The Commission has found no credible evidence that this was so. Ambassador Carney had instructions only to push the Sudanese to expel Bin Ladin. Ambassador Carney had no legal basis to ask for more from the Sudanese since, at the time, there was no indictment outstanding.

9/11 Commission Report, chapter 4, pg 109-110

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf​

President Clinton himself said he should have killed Bin Ladin

Thanks for demonstrating once again just how crazy a rightarded brain really is. You watch that video and your deformed brain translate Clinton's actual words into, "President Clinton himself said he should have killed Bin Ladin"

Here we go again with semantics of should or could.
So he said he could have killed him and then says but I didn't.
The point is he did not do it and got 3,000 Americans Killed.

It's not semantics, ya moron. "could" is not "should."

Holyfuckingshit!

Even worse for your obvious dementia is your imaginary claim that killing bin Laden would have prevented 9.11.

So all you have offered is your misunderstanding of the English language and your own invented supposition that killing OBL would have prevented 9.11.

Osama Bin Laden boasted he’d get away with 9/11 attacks
Osama Bin Laden sickly boasted he’d get away with 9/11 attacks

There is a standard 'idiomatic' usage wherein You could do it means exactly the same as You should do it.

 

[bodecea]

Yeah...he said that and not one other member of the debate challenged him.

Perhaps they don't want to anger the Washington Establishment by publicly slapping / insulting their 'chosen one'...

To me...that was the most outrageous moment of the night.

 

[Faun]

After the 9/11/01 attack and the invasion into Afghanistan until the election of Barak Obama there were NO - ZERO - terrorist attacks on US soil.

Your selective memory is faulty...

FBI, Justice: El Al attack was terrorism

"LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- The FBI and the Department of Justice have agreed with a previous federal conclusion that a shooting at an Israeli airline ticket counter last year fit "the definition of terrorism," an FBI spokesman said Friday."

No 'selective memory'. I guess I left this one out because this wouldn't be a 'terrorist attack' according to Obama - it would be a case of 'traveler's frustration / rage'...sorta like Ft. hood was a case of 'workplace violence'.

So now your excuse is that you're limited to definitions placed by Obama?? After you posted some attacks which defied Obama's definitions.



Thanks! This is why you rightards crack me up.

G'head ... tell the forum again how the only terrorist attacks inside the U.S. since 9.11 came while Obama was president. C'mon ... that's precious.

 

[daws101]

It's hard to believe that the outspoken Trump didn't hammer Jeb on his stupid statement that his brother "kept us safe"!

1. His brother ignored pre-9/11 warnings.
2. Then came 9/11.
3. Then his brother invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11.
4. His brother destabilized the entire Middle East which created ISIS.
5. His brother cost America around $3 trillion so far.

Jeb Bush: My Brother 'Kept Us Safe'

Planning for 9/11/01 on Clinton's Presidency.

As 9/11 commission pointed out, even if they had focused on / perceived the threat of hijacking, the standard procedure at the time for airlines was to do whatever the hijacker wanted because NO ONE ever considered anyone would use a 747 as a weapon - NO ONE!

Bush destabilized the Middle East?
- He should never gone into Iraq. Once he did, as he left office he handed Obama an Iraq that had been liberated, Iraqis that had been and were still being trained, and a situation that just had to be 'managed', and a plan to bring our troops home that all Obama had to do was to follow (yet he took credit for it). Obama even declared the war was over, he was bringing troops home, the war on terrorism was over, and Al Qaeida was on the run.

Of course that was before he took the nation to war on his own to help Al Qaeida (Yeah, 9/11/01 Al Qaeida and the group that had been hiring jihadists for decades to go from Libya to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill Americans) take over Libya...

Of course that was before he began running guns to Syrian 'rebels' who became ISIS, who he called a 'JV Team', and allowed them to flood into Iraq un-opposed and take over much of the nation that had already been liberated at great sacrifice by our military. He too ignored the warning signs called them a JV Team, and watched the whole thing blow up in his face and go up in flames.

Ignored the warning signs?
- The Obama administration knew there was a Middle East-wide call for attacks on US Embassies for 9/11/12, the anniversary of 9/11/01
- The Leader of Libya declared HE had warned the Obama administration of a call to kill Ambassador Stevens on that day in retaliation for a Benghazi-born Al Qaeida leader having been killed months earlier in a drone strike
- Stevens compound had been attacked TWICE in the weeks leading up to 9/11/12, the last attack left a 4-foot hole in the wall...Stevens warned if there was a 3rd coordinated attack and he did not have more security he would DIE (HIS LETTER)
- Obama / Hillary hired an Al Qaeida-associated militia to 'protect' Stevens. After the 1st two attacks on the compound they resigned/quit. No ADDITIONAL security was provided...

IN FACT, after 2 previous attacks on the compound and the loss of the extremely helpful support from the Al Qaeida-associated militia they had hired, AND knowing all about the warnings the Obama administration REDUCED the number of US Security detail members. They later blamed the Republicans for a lack of money to hire more...... 1) What about the money they had been paying the Al Qaeida-associated militia with... 2) You couldn't add a couple thousand dollars to the $6+ trillion Obama had already added so you could adequately protect Americans...& 3) if you could not afford more security and knew about the warning, WHY NOT JUST FLY HIM OUT AND GET HIM OUT OF HARM'S WAY?!

Instead, despite all the warnings, On 9/11/12, 20 US Embassies were attacked, 4 overrun, and 4 Americans to include the 1st US Ambassador in over 30 years were murdered!

Disregarding Warning Signs? Putin and Russia warned Obama about the Boston Marathon Bombers WELL in advance to be able to do something. Instead, Obama did NOTHING and ALLOWED the bombings to be carried out. Afterwards he plastered their pictures all over the TV and asked people to help identify them...EVEN THOUGH THEY ALREADY KNEW WHO THEY WERE (and were trying to cover up the fact that they LET this terrorist attack happen)!

Bullshit terrorists would have attacked no matter who was in office .

 

[easyt65]

You said, "Obama who knew who the Boston Marathon terrorists were."

I'm still waiting for you to show Obama knew who they were....

Show me the memo the FBI handed him with that information. I can show you the memo Bush was handed warning him that an attack was looming.

If you would bother to make any effort to do any of your own research instead of waiting for someone to spoon-feed you could read for yourself how Putin claimed he called Obama himself, told him about the BROTHERS. His head of Homeland Security knew about it, got the FBI involved...are you saying Nepolitano and the FBI would keep this a secret from Obama...who, again, already knew according to Putin.

 

[daws101]

Conspiracy theories stat!

 

[easyt65]

Conspiracy theories stat!

...except there is enough documentation proving all of it...even Nepolitano's own testimony before the Senate hearing about it. Just because Libs don't like hearing the truth or being reminded of it doesn't make it a 'conspiracy'.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I don't blame Bush for 9/11. I blame him for being a clueless jerk.

 

[Faun]

What a shame rightards are ineducable.

In late 1995,when Bin Ladin was still in Sudan, the State Department and the CIA learned that Sudanese officials were discussing with the Saudi government the possibility of expelling Bin Ladin. U.S.Ambassador Timothy Carney encouraged the Sudanese to pursue this course. The Saudis, however, did not want Bin Ladin, giving as their reason their revocation of his citizenship.

Sudan’s minister of defense, Fatih Erwa, has claimed that Sudan offered to hand Bin Ladin over to the United States. The Commission has found no credible evidence that this was so. Ambassador Carney had instructions only to push the Sudanese to expel Bin Ladin. Ambassador Carney had no legal basis to ask for more from the Sudanese since, at the time, there was no indictment outstanding.

9/11 Commission Report, chapter 4, pg 109-110

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf​

President Clinton himself said he should have killed Bin Ladin

Thanks for demonstrating once again just how crazy a rightarded brain really is. You watch that video and your deformed brain translate Clinton's actual words into, "President Clinton himself said he should have killed Bin Ladin"

Here we go again with semantics of should or could.
So he said he could have killed him and then says but I didn't.
The point is he did not do it and got 3,000 Americans Killed.

It's not semantics, ya moron. "could" is not "should."

Holyfuckingshit!

Even worse for your obvious dementia is your imaginary claim that killing bin Laden would have prevented 9.11.

So all you have offered is your misunderstanding of the English language and your own invented supposition that killing OBL would have prevented 9.11.

Osama Bin Laden boasted he’d get away with 9/11 attacks
Osama Bin Laden sickly boasted he’d get away with 9/11 attacks

There is a standard 'idiomatic' usage wherein You could do it means exactly the same as You should do it.

Oh, look ... the rightard seeks to redefine the English language to make its own mangling of words appear legitimate.

Sorry, rightard, but words do have meaning even if you don't know what those words are...

could
used to say something is possible

should
used in auxiliary function to express obligation, propriety, or expediency

 

[easyt65]

I don't blame Bush for 9/11. I blame him for being a clueless jerk.

Yeah, cause God knows Obama would have predicted it was going to happen and would have stopped it before it ever happened....

....like he did with the Boston Marathon Bombing
....like he did with the Ft Hood Shooting
....like he did with the Navy Recruiting Station shooting
...like he did with the 20 simultaneous embassy attacks on 9/11/12
....like he did w/the attack on Benghazi and the deaths of 4 Americans
....like he did.....

 

[Faun]

It's hard to believe that the outspoken Trump didn't hammer Jeb on his stupid statement that his brother "kept us safe"!

1. His brother ignored pre-9/11 warnings.
2. Then came 9/11.
3. Then his brother invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11.
4. His brother destabilized the entire Middle East which created ISIS.
5. His brother cost America around $3 trillion so far.

Jeb Bush: My Brother 'Kept Us Safe'

Planning for 9/11/01 on Clinton's Presidency.

As 9/11 commission pointed out, even if they had focused on / perceived the threat of hijacking, the standard procedure at the time for airlines was to do whatever the hijacker wanted because NO ONE ever considered anyone would use a 747 as a weapon - NO ONE!

Bush destabilized the Middle East?
- He should never gone into Iraq. Once he did, as he left office he handed Obama an Iraq that had been liberated, Iraqis that had been and were still being trained, and a situation that just had to be 'managed', and a plan to bring our troops home that all Obama had to do was to follow (yet he took credit for it). Obama even declared the war was over, he was bringing troops home, the war on terrorism was over, and Al Qaeida was on the run.

Of course that was before he took the nation to war on his own to help Al Qaeida (Yeah, 9/11/01 Al Qaeida and the group that had been hiring jihadists for decades to go from Libya to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill Americans) take over Libya...

Of course that was before he began running guns to Syrian 'rebels' who became ISIS, who he called a 'JV Team', and allowed them to flood into Iraq un-opposed and take over much of the nation that had already been liberated at great sacrifice by our military. He too ignored the warning signs called them a JV Team, and watched the whole thing blow up in his face and go up in flames.

Ignored the warning signs?
- The Obama administration knew there was a Middle East-wide call for attacks on US Embassies for 9/11/12, the anniversary of 9/11/01
- The Leader of Libya declared HE had warned the Obama administration of a call to kill Ambassador Stevens on that day in retaliation for a Benghazi-born Al Qaeida leader having been killed months earlier in a drone strike
- Stevens compound had been attacked TWICE in the weeks leading up to 9/11/12, the last attack left a 4-foot hole in the wall...Stevens warned if there was a 3rd coordinated attack and he did not have more security he would DIE (HIS LETTER)
- Obama / Hillary hired an Al Qaeida-associated militia to 'protect' Stevens. After the 1st two attacks on the compound they resigned/quit. No ADDITIONAL security was provided...

IN FACT, after 2 previous attacks on the compound and the loss of the extremely helpful support from the Al Qaeida-associated militia they had hired, AND knowing all about the warnings the Obama administration REDUCED the number of US Security detail members. They later blamed the Republicans for a lack of money to hire more...... 1) What about the money they had been paying the Al Qaeida-associated militia with... 2) You couldn't add a couple thousand dollars to the $6+ trillion Obama had already added so you could adequately protect Americans...& 3) if you could not afford more security and knew about the warning, WHY NOT JUST FLY HIM OUT AND GET HIM OUT OF HARM'S WAY?!

Instead, despite all the warnings, On 9/11/12, 20 US Embassies were attacked, 4 overrun, and 4 Americans to include the 1st US Ambassador in over 30 years were murdered!

Disregarding Warning Signs? Putin and Russia warned Obama about the Boston Marathon Bombers WELL in advance to be able to do something. Instead, Obama did NOTHING and ALLOWED the bombings to be carried out. Afterwards he plastered their pictures all over the TV and asked people to help identify them...EVEN THOUGH THEY ALREADY KNEW WHO THEY WERE (and were trying to cover up the fact that they LET this terrorist attack happen)!

Bullshit terrorists would have attacked no matter who was in office .

What was the rights' response to Clinton warning of a potential attack inside the U.S. ... ?

Clinton predicted on January 22 that it is "highly likely" that a terrorist group will attack on American soil within the next few years. He is using this risk as the excuse to create a Domestic Terrorism Team headed by a military "commander in chief," with a $2.8 billion budget. We should not underestimate the deceit and deviousness of Clinton's plans to use aggressive presidential actions to wipe out public memory of his impeachment trial.​