Did Russia "hack" the election? Four questions.

[eddiew37]

You have no proof that anyone paid anyone for any agitating. But you keep saying it as though it actually happened. That's what nutbags do.

There was no proof of Trump running around grabbing pussies either, just the words. But that's different.

Just the words out of his own mouth BUT we all know the pos is a degenerate liar Right?

Yes, we all know that BOTH candidates are liars. There are no points to be scored on honesty or integrity. Both candidates get a big fat zero in that category.

Yeah.....no.

One lies more. One keeps lying even when the lies have been exposed. One lies about things that aren't even politically expedient. One is a pathological liar.

The other is a politician.

The false equivalency bullshit is why we have a juvenile weirdo heading to the White House.

Now....go ahead and tell me that I'm a biased lib. But don't bother to PROVE that Hillary lies as much or as casually as TRUMP.

Hillary lies about handling national security, admits to no wrongdoing after being proven lying repeatedly about it. She would continue behaving loosely with national security because she sees nothing wrong with it. That is delusional and narcissistic, both of which are mental issues.

You can polish your turd as hard as you like, but she is every bit the turd that Trump is.

If so, a FAR MORE presidential turd than the one entering our WH

 

[Tresha91203]

There was no proof of Trump running around grabbing pussies either, just the words. But that's different.

Well, he said that's what he did. Are you calling him a liar? Are you saying we can't take him at his word? Okay.

Of course he is a liar, as is Clinton. Both candidates were awful.

What does Clinton have to do with electing a Psychopath, a dangerous psychopath and putting said psychopath next to the little red button that will destroy mankind once pushed. Forget your long list of stupid lies about Clinton killing people , I'll give you 100 videos' proving that Small Hands is nuts.

I've never accused her of killing anyone. She is proven to be extremely careless with national security when it is convenient for her. That is dangerous and has long term consequences. It is a deal breaker for me. Trump does not carry the football. The military does. Trump cannot nuke anyone by himself. There are safeguards in place to prevent what you fear.

Awesome. You really think Trump is a better bet for our national security....but you are banking on someone being there to help him if he needs to make a decision.

Really awesome.

I was pointing out the idea that Trump is going to use nukes like he uses Twitter is hyperbole.

I think Trump is a blowhard buffoon. I think Clinton will sell secrets for personal gain.

 

[eddiew37]

Well, he said that's what he did. Are you calling him a liar? Are you saying we can't take him at his word? Okay.

Of course he is a liar, as is Clinton. Both candidates were awful.

What does Clinton have to do with electing a Psychopath, a dangerous psychopath and putting said psychopath next to the little red button that will destroy mankind once pushed. Forget your long list of stupid lies about Clinton killing people , I'll give you 100 videos' proving that Small Hands is nuts.

I've never accused her of killing anyone. She is proven to be extremely careless with national security when it is convenient for her. That is dangerous and has long term consequences. It is a deal breaker for me. Trump does not carry the football. The military does. Trump cannot nuke anyone by himself. There are safeguards in place to prevent what you fear.

Awesome. You really think Trump is a better bet for our national security....but you are banking on someone being there to help him if he needs to make a decision.

Really awesome.

I was pointing out the idea that Trump is going to use nukes like he uses Twitter is hyperbole.

I think Trump is a blowhard buffoon. I think Clinton will sell secrets for personal gain.

If you believe that she'd sell her country out you're listening and believing the garbage the repub party puts out

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Trump does not carry the football. The military does. Trump cannot nuke anyone by himself. There are safeguards in place to prevent what you fear.

You need to disavow yourself of some of your misconception you have displayed above. Watch the 4 min. video to help yourself become better informed.
~~ The President's Nuclear Football Video - White House - HISTORY.com ~~

 

[LoneLaugher]

You have no proof that anyone paid anyone for any agitating. But you keep saying it as though it actually happened. That's what nutbags do.

There was no proof of Trump running around grabbing pussies either, just the words. But that's different.

Just the words out of his own mouth BUT we all know the pos is a degenerate liar Right?

Yes, we all know that BOTH candidates are liars. There are no points to be scored on honesty or integrity. Both candidates get a big fat zero in that category.

Yeah.....no.

One lies more. One keeps lying even when the lies have been exposed. One lies about things that aren't even politically expedient. One is a pathological liar.

The other is a politician.

The false equivalency bullshit is why we have a juvenile weirdo heading to the White House.

Now....go ahead and tell me that I'm a biased lib. But don't bother to PROVE that Hillary lies as much or as casually as TRUMP.

Hillary lies about handling national security, admits to no wrongdoing after being proven lying repeatedly about it. She would continue behaving loosely with national security because she sees nothing wrong with it. That is delusional and narcissistic, both of which are mental issues.

You can polish your turd as hard as you like, but she is every bit the turd that Trump is.

She never lied about that. She admitted her mistake immediately and then repeated her apology dozens of times.

You are pretty stupid, aren't you? This isn't just you being wrong...you really don't know the difference. Have a nice life.

 

[jbander]

Okay, just for the hell of it, let's try to define what the question "Did Russia Hack the Election?" actually means.

If I have this right, I don't believe anyone is saying that Russia somehow got into voting booths or hacked into voting machines or computers or servers and changed votes from Hillary to Trump. If I'm wrong on that, if you believe that, please say so and provide whatever evidence you have.

I believe that what is being said is that the Russians "hacked" into Podesta's and other DNC people's email accounts via phishing and got oodles of seriously damning shit on the Democrats, spilled the beans, and here we are. They are saying that an unfriendly foreign power found and used a method of influencing opinions on a major party presidential candidate, and it may have made enough of a difference in a close race. That's it, unless I'm missing something.

So, four reasonable questions:

1. Was Podesta, was the DNC, an easy mark for this activity, did they screw up? Yeah, it appears so.
2. Did the Russians try to hack the RNC too? Entirely possible, no one can say for sure either way.
3. Could all the shit that came out from the hacked emails been the final straw against Clinton, particularly in those rust belt states where Trump barely beat her and gained critical electoral votes? Yeah, that seems like a reasonable possibility.
   
4. And finally, if Trump had been the one whose party's emails were hacked and Hillary won critical electoral states by a hair, would his supporters be screaming right now? Of course.

So what is YOUR definition of "hacking"?
.

One Queston. Did any of the wikileaks releases say Anything untrue? Are you saying hillary lost the election because people learned the truth about her and her campaign? Whats so wrong?

I support wiki leaks no mater what they say that is true. My complaint is the right got so populated with haters that they were able to elect a hate puke candidate. Scum level psychopath and put him next to the little red button that once pushed ends mankind.

This will make you feel better.

NO this is Better

Okay, just for the hell of it, let's try to define what the question "Did Russia Hack the Election?" actually means.

If I have this right, I don't believe anyone is saying that Russia somehow got into voting booths or hacked into voting machines or computers or servers and changed votes from Hillary to Trump. If I'm wrong on that, if you believe that, please say so and provide whatever evidence you have.

I believe that what is being said is that the Russians "hacked" into Podesta's and other DNC people's email accounts via phishing and got oodles of seriously damning shit on the Democrats, spilled the beans, and here we are. They are saying that an unfriendly foreign power found and used a method of influencing opinions on a major party presidential candidate, and it may have made enough of a difference in a close race. That's it, unless I'm missing something.

So, four reasonable questions:

1. Was Podesta, was the DNC, an easy mark for this activity, did they screw up? Yeah, it appears so.
2. Did the Russians try to hack the RNC too? Entirely possible, no one can say for sure either way.
3. Could all the shit that came out from the hacked emails been the final straw against Clinton, particularly in those rust belt states where Trump barely beat her and gained critical electoral votes? Yeah, that seems like a reasonable possibility.
   
4. And finally, if Trump had been the one whose party's emails were hacked and Hillary won critical electoral states by a hair, would his supporters be screaming right now? Of course.

So what is YOUR definition of "hacking"?
.

One Queston. Did any of the wikileaks releases say Anything untrue? Are you saying hillary lost the election because people learned the truth about her and her campaign? Whats so wrong?

I support wiki leaks no mater what they say that is true. My complaint is the right got so populated with haters that they were able to elect a hate puke candidate. Scum level psychopath and put him next to the little red button that once pushed ends mankind.

This will make you feel better.

No this is much better, Small hands loves big Boobs so his love match,(his daughter bought some for dady) She wants him to continue with his remarks that he wants to have sex with her

So let me see if have the dem/lib position right on this:

The Russians hacked into DNC and Podestra servers and found evidence of corruption, cheating, and lying by the democrats and Clinton, then they gave it wikileaks so they could "release" the truth to the American voters because Putin wants the USA to have a strong president rather than one who can be bribed and blackmailed. Then American voters decided to vote against Clinton, even though the pollsters said that she had it locked up. Is that about right?

No! You left out that Russia committed a de facto act of war against the United States by trying to interfere with our democratic election process and shift the results to favor their chosen favorite who they are in the position of butt fucking into submission through his myriad business entanglements with Russia! What a piece of shit apologist you are for Trump and Putin/Russia!

since its Sunday I will refrain from calling you a dipshit.

The Saudis gave hundreds of millions to the Clinton campaign (illegally). Why no outrage that they were trying to hack the election?

Because they didn't , so why would we be outraged. To Much FOX CRAP NEWS buddy.

 

[jbander]

There are some several key points that the Russians were cheating on the American elections, according to this declassified report from the CIA, the FBI, and lastly, the National Security Agency, and their significant scope is that Russia is the only country creating this blurred line of this unprotected thing, and that is hacking.

Then we can safely dismiss everything they said. That's utter bullshit. China alone has stolen millions worth of intellectual property rights.

Listen MR dog turd ,TEll us again what China has to do with anything. Start a thread if you think it is interesting. but it just looks stupid stuck in this thread.

 

[Tresha91203]

Of course he is a liar, as is Clinton. Both candidates were awful.

What does Clinton have to do with electing a Psychopath, a dangerous psychopath and putting said psychopath next to the little red button that will destroy mankind once pushed. Forget your long list of stupid lies about Clinton killing people , I'll give you 100 videos' proving that Small Hands is nuts.

I've never accused her of killing anyone. She is proven to be extremely careless with national security when it is convenient for her. That is dangerous and has long term consequences. It is a deal breaker for me. Trump does not carry the football. The military does. Trump cannot nuke anyone by himself. There are safeguards in place to prevent what you fear.

Awesome. You really think Trump is a better bet for our national security....but you are banking on someone being there to help him if he needs to make a decision.

Really awesome.

I was pointing out the idea that Trump is going to use nukes like he uses Twitter is hyperbole.

I think Trump is a blowhard buffoon. I think Clinton will sell secrets for personal gain.

If you believe that she'd sell her country out you're listening and believing the garbage the repub party puts out

I remember the disaster of Bill selling military intelligence to China (as well as US patents). Now China has greatly improved accuracy of their missile targeting and US businesses have to compete with Chinese knockoffs.
I voted against more of that. -shrug-

 

[jbander]

e

So let me see if have the dem/lib position right on this:

The Russians hacked into DNC and Podestra servers and found evidence of corruption, cheating, and lying by the democrats and Clinton, then they gave it wikileaks so they could "release" the truth to the American voters because Putin wants the USA to have a strong president rather than one who can be bribed and blackmailed. Then American voters decided to vote against Clinton, even though the pollsters said that she had it locked up. Is that about right?

No! You left out that Russia committed a de facto act of war against the United States by trying to interfere with our democratic election process and shift the results to favor their chosen favorite who they are in the position of butt fucking into submission through his myriad business entanglements with Russia! What a piece of shit apologist you are for Trump and Putin/Russia!

since its Sunday I will refrain from calling you a dipshit.

The Saudis gave hundreds of millions to the Clinton campaign (illegally). Why no outrage that they were trying to hack the election?

What the fuck is the title of the thread, DIPSHIT? Does it say anything about Clinton you imbecile? Now run off and have your Sunday morning shit sundae, Fish! Your false equlivence has no fucking place on this thread, shit for brains!

the title of the thread, dingleberry, is did the Russians hack the ELECTION. The answer is NO. Someone (wikileaks will not reveal their source) hacked the DNC e-mail system and Podestras e-mails and Weiner's e-mails. What those hacks exposed (and wikileaks revealed) is cheating and corruption by the dems to: 1. suppress the Sanders vote, 2. give the questions to hilly before the debates and interviews, and 3. cover up the illegal money coming in to the Clinton campaign.

THE RUSSIANS MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE SOURCE OF THE HACKS. Assange will not say where the info came from. It is very possible it was a disgruntled DNC staffer or Bernie supporter.

Now, question for you: Why would Putin prefer a strong American president (Trump) rather than a weak one (Clinton) that would be susceptible to bribes and blackmail?

Hey stupid, Small Hands Rump has already admitted that they(Russia) did hack the Dems.

 

[boedicca]

In 2008 the Russians were quite pleased that Obabble was elected. I don't recall the Neo-McCarthyite Progs being alarmed back then.


Pravda records the enthusiastic reaction of Russian politicians toward the election of Barack Obama. Most perceptive, I think, is the head of Russia’s Communist Party, Gennady Zyuganov:

"All Republican presidents have always defended national interests, ignoring the interests of other countries of the world. The new US president cannot but understand that it is impossible to seek and find answers to many global issues without the participation of such a great country as Russia."

I'm Afraid He's Right

 

[Tresha91203]

Trump does not carry the football. The military does. Trump cannot nuke anyone by himself. There are safeguards in place to prevent what you fear.

You need to disavow yourself of some of your misconception you have displayed above. Watch the 4 min. video to help yourself become better informed.
~~ The President's Nuclear Football Video - White House - HISTORY.com ~~

Trump cannot nuke someone because he's butthurt about being insulted. That was the implication I was addressing. Thank you for further knowledge. Always appreciated.

 

[boedicca]

e

So let me see if have the dem/lib position right on this:

The Russians hacked into DNC and Podestra servers and found evidence of corruption, cheating, and lying by the democrats and Clinton, then they gave it wikileaks so they could "release" the truth to the American voters because Putin wants the USA to have a strong president rather than one who can be bribed and blackmailed. Then American voters decided to vote against Clinton, even though the pollsters said that she had it locked up. Is that about right?

No! You left out that Russia committed a de facto act of war against the United States by trying to interfere with our democratic election process and shift the results to favor their chosen favorite who they are in the position of butt fucking into submission through his myriad business entanglements with Russia! What a piece of shit apologist you are for Trump and Putin/Russia!

since its Sunday I will refrain from calling you a dipshit.

The Saudis gave hundreds of millions to the Clinton campaign (illegally). Why no outrage that they were trying to hack the election?

What the fuck is the title of the thread, DIPSHIT? Does it say anything about Clinton you imbecile? Now run off and have your Sunday morning shit sundae, Fish! Your false equlivence has no fucking place on this thread, shit for brains!

the title of the thread, dingleberry, is did the Russians hack the ELECTION. The answer is NO. Someone (wikileaks will not reveal their source) hacked the DNC e-mail system and Podestras e-mails and Weiner's e-mails. What those hacks exposed (and wikileaks revealed) is cheating and corruption by the dems to: 1. suppress the Sanders vote, 2. give the questions to hilly before the debates and interviews, and 3. cover up the illegal money coming in to the Clinton campaign.

THE RUSSIANS MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE SOURCE OF THE HACKS. Assange will not say where the info came from. It is very possible it was a disgruntled DNC staffer or Bernie supporter.

Now, question for you: Why would Putin prefer a strong American president (Trump) rather than a weak one (Clinton) that would be susceptible to bribes and blackmail?

Hey stupid, Small Hands Rump has already admitted that they(Russia) did hack the Dems.

Oh looky! Another hilIARy campaign troll is still hanging around USMB. You do realize you are no longer getting paid by George Soros to post here?

 

[jbander]

Still looking forward to seeing any indication of any actual evidence at all.

It'll be a long wait. Libs expect people to take their word without question.

And I take it that this is an admission on their part that the leaked emails were accurate. It means they were hacked from Hillary's server before she had the server wiped clean and that it proves that she deleted work emails, which is illegal.

The whole Russian hacking fantasy is obviously designed to distract attention from the Democrats monumental failures, Clinton misdeeds and incompetence, and anything that might reflect on Obama. It isn't working. Most people don't buy it.

...as they shouldn't! The Russians did not hack the election. This is bullshit promoted by the dishonest CIA and the dishonest Obama administration.

Defence and intelligence Norway | The Russians Did Not “Hack” the US Election – a Few Facts from a Former CIA Spy

Let me spell stupid for you , your puke hero Small Hand Rump has admitted that the dems where hacked by the Russians you idiot.

The DEMS were hacked! The ELECTION was not hacked! YOU are the IDIOT here! Fuck off, idiot!

This is great, more fun for me, A hacker gives information during the presidential election saying the truth that Small Hands wanting to have sex with his daughter but the conclusion is that it was just a hack on him not the election.

 

[Tresha91203]

There was no proof of Trump running around grabbing pussies either, just the words. But that's different.

Just the words out of his own mouth BUT we all know the pos is a degenerate liar Right?

Yes, we all know that BOTH candidates are liars. There are no points to be scored on honesty or integrity. Both candidates get a big fat zero in that category.

Yeah.....no.

One lies more. One keeps lying even when the lies have been exposed. One lies about things that aren't even politically expedient. One is a pathological liar.

The other is a politician.

The false equivalency bullshit is why we have a juvenile weirdo heading to the White House.

Now....go ahead and tell me that I'm a biased lib. But don't bother to PROVE that Hillary lies as much or as casually as TRUMP.

Hillary lies about handling national security, admits to no wrongdoing after being proven lying repeatedly about it. She would continue behaving loosely with national security because she sees nothing wrong with it. That is delusional and narcissistic, both of which are mental issues.

You can polish your turd as hard as you like, but she is every bit the turd that Trump is.

She never lied about that. She admitted her mistake immediately and then repeated her apology dozens of times.

You are pretty stupid, aren't you? This isn't just you being wrong...you really don't know the difference. Have a nice life.

I am secure so personal insults have no affect. I listened to her own words and watched her actions. Have a nice life as well.

 

[Constructive Anarchy]

 

[Constructive Anarchy]

Well, he said that's what he did. Are you calling him a liar? Are you saying we can't take him at his word? Okay.

Of course he is a liar, as is Clinton. Both candidates were awful.

What does Clinton have to do with electing a Psychopath, a dangerous psychopath and putting said psychopath next to the little red button that will destroy mankind once pushed. Forget your long list of stupid lies about Clinton killing people , I'll give you 100 videos' proving that Small Hands is nuts.

I've never accused her of killing anyone. She is proven to be extremely careless with national security when it is convenient for her. That is dangerous and has long term consequences. It is a deal breaker for me. Trump does not carry the football. The military does. Trump cannot nuke anyone by himself. There are safeguards in place to prevent what you fear.

Awesome. You really think Trump is a better bet for our national security....but you are banking on someone being there to help him if he needs to make a decision.

Really awesome.

I was pointing out the idea that Trump is going to use nukes like he uses Twitter is hyperbole.

I think Trump is a blowhard buffoon. I think Clinton will sell secrets for personal gain.

Hilary Clinton never saw a war she didn't like.

 

[jbander]

coupla things

1. wikileaks is not Russia
2. the truth about DNC corruption did hurt Hillary
3. Hillary was a terrible candidate and a terrible human being
4. The voters rejected: the establishment, the lying media, the lying pollsters, Hillary, Obama, and liberalism in general
5. Trump was a vote for real change, enforcement of laws, and economic sanity.

The voters gave the election to Clinton by almost 3 million votes.

Doesn't matter. We have been down this road. She lost by the rules of the game that both candidates were completely aware of.

But, if field goals counted as 5 points, the Saints would be in the playoffs. I demand a retroactive rule change.

You said the VOTERS rejected her. That's the popular vote. NO, they did not.

Actually, they did. She did not get the majority of votes. Most votes were for someone other than her.

Largest difference in history the massive difference in votes compared to electoral votes. For a loosing candidate.

 

[jbander]

Stupid his first statement is bullshit, even small hands said they did. your video is from another stupid idiot that you grovel at the feet of. Stupid stupid stupid. Every word out of his mouth is garbage. Thats the type of crazies you people believe in.

 

[Constructive Anarchy]

Stupid his first statement is bullshit, even small hands said they did. your video is from another stupid idiot that you grovel at the feet of. Stupid stupid stupid. Every word out of his mouth is garbage. Thats the type of crazies you people believe in.

I've read the report. Fucking dummy. Nothing there but vague assertions based on who knows what.

 

[jbander]

Okay, just for the hell of it, let's try to define what the question "Did Russia Hack the Election?" actually means.

If I have this right, I don't believe anyone is saying that Russia somehow got into voting booths or hacked into voting machines or computers or servers and changed votes from Hillary to Trump. If I'm wrong on that, if you believe that, please say so and provide whatever evidence you have.

I believe that what is being said is that the Russians "hacked" into Podesta's and other DNC people's email accounts via phishing and got oodles of seriously damning shit on the Democrats, spilled the beans, and here we are. They are saying that an unfriendly foreign power found and used a method of influencing opinions on a major party presidential candidate, and it may have made enough of a difference in a close race. That's it, unless I'm missing something.

So, four reasonable questions:

1. Was Podesta, was the DNC, an easy mark for this activity, did they screw up? Yeah, it appears so.
2. Did the Russians try to hack the RNC too? Entirely possible, no one can say for sure either way.
3. Could all the shit that came out from the hacked emails been the final straw against Clinton, particularly in those rust belt states where Trump barely beat her and gained critical electoral votes? Yeah, that seems like a reasonable possibility.
   
4. And finally, if Trump had been the one whose party's emails were hacked and Hillary won critical electoral states by a hair, would his supporters be screaming right now? Of course.

So what is YOUR definition of "hacking"?
.

The "charges" the administration is making is that the Russian Government compromised Podesta's and other DNC email accounts using spear phishing malware and then released the contents to the public which unduly influenced the outcome of the election (in Trump's favor); no one has disputed the authenticity of the contents of these emails, so basically this charge amounts to "they influenced the election by telling the American Public the truth about one candidate and one party". From reading the FBI release on the evidence that the Russian Government was responsible it seems very thin (much of the release entailed general guidelines on how to improve systems security), it basically boils down to "the malware used in the attack was similar to malware that has been used by Russian intelligence operations in the past", in other words no "smoking gun" pointing at the Russian Government has been offered up for public consideration and nobody appears to be asking why the Russian Government would use an attack signature that points the finger squarely at themselves.

Further "charges" include accusing the Russian Government of distributing "fake news" which portrayed the Clinton Campaign in a negative light, again no "smoking gun" evidence has been produced just allegations; even if this is true all it does is further demonstrate what a bunch of brainless morons the electorate is comprised of and that voters are stupid enough to believe that reading headlines are all that is required as "homework" on the candidates they vote for.

Was the election "hacked", IMHO insufficient evidence of that has been offered to draw that conclusion, however I personally want to thank WHOMEVER cracked those email accounts and released the contents to the public, they did us a service since we got to get a glimpse inside the corrupt goings on inside the smoke filled back alleys inhabited by the partisan slime balls.

Personally I think it's all a bunch of President Nimrod manufactured bullshit to shift the focus off the Democrat Party's gross incompetence and dishonesty and it reminds of all of the Pre-Iraq War bullshit ginned up by the Bush Administration to justify it's actions against Iraq.... and wouldn't ya know Senator Warmonger (AZ-R) buys right into it ! just like he did with all the Iraq WMD and "Iraq is an imminent threat" bullshit, that should tell ya a lot, he'll swallow anything that makes going to war more likely.

It is much easier and acceptable (though entirely predictable) for the Ds/Big Ears to blame Russia for losing to Trump, rather than believe their failed and horrendously stupid policies were rejected by the American people.
No doubt Big Ears thinks Trump stole the election and as such, is illegitimate. The silver lining could be that the Ds double down on their stupid policies, resulting in the American people rejecting them for the foreseeable future.

NO he won because of the EC and ah's that believed the liar Now he wants to befriend the gov't that hacked our election ,and people are stupid not to want to be friends with Russia ? You elected a mad man now reap the whirlwind

Unhinged...like many on the Left.

Why do they have crazy tendencies?

What is a person called who supports and elects a psychopath into office and park that psychopath next to the little red button that once pushed destroys mankind.