Did you Support War in Iraq??

Did you support the War in Iraq?

  • Yes

    Votes: 27 32.5%
  • No

    Votes: 56 67.5%

  • Total voters
    83
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

There are is only 1 reason why Bush determined it was necessary to start a war on March 17 2003. Its here:

“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.


You said the US military found them. You are a liar.
sure that was certainly a justification...and xiden had authorized him to use force

Invading a country because you are looking for nonexistent WMDs??
Bush finally admitted there were NONE. Why do you think the Brits went to so much trouble to SELL the war in 1998 with Operation Mass Appeal? They spent 3 years demonizing Saddam and Iraq in the press... propagandizing their position with rumors and speculation.

Talk about a witch hunt.. Didn't you catch on with the Booze Wars in KSA when the Brits were carbombing themselves and got caught?
Geez man, it's like talking to a five year old....we know all the reasons...numerous reasons, that Xiden and company outlined for taking out Saddam...WMDs were one of those reason...and nonexistant? I have highlighted, that somewhere found.

I am sure the Brits were just as concerned in 1998, Xiden and Clinton were as well..hence why they made it US policy in 1998 to overthrow Saddam


The thing that set all this crap in motion was a telethon that raised 10s of millions overnight for the Palestinians.. As soon as that happened in 2000 the MI6 began the booze war bombing trying to implicate the Palestinians.. So the Brits got caught blowing each other up and the propaganda to depose Saddam went into overrive.


You're not making any sense. That the brits didn't like Saddam either, is not really relevant to this discussion.

The Brits worked overtime to sell the war.. See Sir Derek Plumbly.
yep lots of countries dislike saddam and wanted him gone. Tends to happen when you are a murderous dictator


He seems to be trying to say that since the Brits wanted Saddam gone, that that means that since Bush wanted Saddam gone too, that that makes Bush's motives... something...


Bush was a British agent?


He is not making sense.

No..The US and the British were committed to giving Bibi what he wanted.
Israel, like the rest of the world, didn't like Saddam either...most people don't like murderous dictators...but he was low on the list of issues for Israel, in comparison to Iran.

Also Bibi wasn't PM of Israel when we fullfilled the Clinton Xiden policy of overthrowing Saddam...

Bibi's Clean Break Strategy specifically called for Saddam to be overthrown.. Top of his list.. The PNAC letter to Clinton was taken from it verbatim.. Now look at how many dual citizen signatories signe the letter and how many of them went to work in the Bush administration.
Cool, Xiden and Clinton's Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 stated the same thing.

What's your point? Other then proving that a number of countries called for it

The Arab world was opposed to it and so were American expats in the ME. The French were opposed to it.

Look, dope. They had decided to invade Iraq no matter the intelligence, no matter the evidence and no matter what the Arabs, diplomats, oilmen, historians or Europeans said.
Cool story...i am not surprised some were opposed to it.

Not sure what your point is.

Yeah, Xiden and Clinton made the decision to overthrow Saddam in 1998, well before Bush was in office. Not sure your point
 
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

There are is only 1 reason why Bush determined it was necessary to start a war on March 17 2003. Its here:

“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.


You said the US military found them. You are a liar.
sure that was certainly a justification...and xiden had authorized him to use force

Invading a country because you are looking for nonexistent WMDs??
Bush finally admitted there were NONE. Why do you think the Brits went to so much trouble to SELL the war in 1998 with Operation Mass Appeal? They spent 3 years demonizing Saddam and Iraq in the press... propagandizing their position with rumors and speculation.

Talk about a witch hunt.. Didn't you catch on with the Booze Wars in KSA when the Brits were carbombing themselves and got caught?
Geez man, it's like talking to a five year old....we know all the reasons...numerous reasons, that Xiden and company outlined for taking out Saddam...WMDs were one of those reason...and nonexistant? I have highlighted, that somewhere found.

I am sure the Brits were just as concerned in 1998, Xiden and Clinton were as well..hence why they made it US policy in 1998 to overthrow Saddam


The thing that set all this crap in motion was a telethon that raised 10s of millions overnight for the Palestinians.. As soon as that happened in 2000 the MI6 began the booze war bombing trying to implicate the Palestinians.. So the Brits got caught blowing each other up and the propaganda to depose Saddam went into overrive.


You're not making any sense. That the brits didn't like Saddam either, is not really relevant to this discussion.

The Brits worked overtime to sell the war.. See Sir Derek Plumbly.
yep lots of countries dislike saddam and wanted him gone. Tends to happen when you are a murderous dictator


He seems to be trying to say that since the Brits wanted Saddam gone, that that means that since Bush wanted Saddam gone too, that that makes Bush's motives... something...


Bush was a British agent?


He is not making sense.

No..The US and the British were committed to giving Bibi what he wanted.
Israel, like the rest of the world, didn't like Saddam either...most people don't like murderous dictators...but he was low on the list of issues for Israel, in comparison to Iran.

Also Bibi wasn't PM of Israel when we fullfilled the Clinton Xiden policy of overthrowing Saddam...

Bibi's Clean Break Strategy specifically called for Saddam to be overthrown.. Top of his list.. The PNAC letter to Clinton was taken from it verbatim.. Now look at how many dual citizen signatories signe the letter and how many of them went to work in the Bush administration.
Cool, Xiden and Clinton's Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 stated the same thing.

What's your point? Other then proving that a number of countries called for it

The Arab world was opposed to it and so were American expats in the ME. The French were opposed to it.

Look, dope. They had decided to invade Iraq no matter the intelligence, no matter the evidence and no matter what the Arabs, diplomats, oilmen, historians or Europeans said.
Cool story...i am not surprised some were opposed to it.

Not sure what your point is.

Yeah, Xiden and Clinton made the decision to overthrow Saddam in 1998, well before Bush was in office. Not sure your point

Lip service. The dual citizens were trying to trap Clinton.. Clinton wasn't that stupid and he already screwed up when he bombed the damned aspirin factory in Sudan based on idiot intelligence.
 
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

There are is only 1 reason why Bush determined it was necessary to start a war on March 17 2003. Its here:

“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.


You said the US military found them. You are a liar.
sure that was certainly a justification...and xiden had authorized him to use force

Invading a country because you are looking for nonexistent WMDs??
Bush finally admitted there were NONE. Why do you think the Brits went to so much trouble to SELL the war in 1998 with Operation Mass Appeal? They spent 3 years demonizing Saddam and Iraq in the press... propagandizing their position with rumors and speculation.

Talk about a witch hunt.. Didn't you catch on with the Booze Wars in KSA when the Brits were carbombing themselves and got caught?
Geez man, it's like talking to a five year old....we know all the reasons...numerous reasons, that Xiden and company outlined for taking out Saddam...WMDs were one of those reason...and nonexistant? I have highlighted, that somewhere found.

I am sure the Brits were just as concerned in 1998, Xiden and Clinton were as well..hence why they made it US policy in 1998 to overthrow Saddam


The thing that set all this crap in motion was a telethon that raised 10s of millions overnight for the Palestinians.. As soon as that happened in 2000 the MI6 began the booze war bombing trying to implicate the Palestinians.. So the Brits got caught blowing each other up and the propaganda to depose Saddam went into overrive.


You're not making any sense. That the brits didn't like Saddam either, is not really relevant to this discussion.

The Brits worked overtime to sell the war.. See Sir Derek Plumbly.
yep lots of countries dislike saddam and wanted him gone. Tends to happen when you are a murderous dictator


He seems to be trying to say that since the Brits wanted Saddam gone, that that means that since Bush wanted Saddam gone too, that that makes Bush's motives... something...


Bush was a British agent?


He is not making sense.

No..The US and the British were committed to giving Bibi what he wanted.
Israel, like the rest of the world, didn't like Saddam either...most people don't like murderous dictators...but he was low on the list of issues for Israel, in comparison to Iran.

Also Bibi wasn't PM of Israel when we fullfilled the Clinton Xiden policy of overthrowing Saddam...

Bibi's Clean Break Strategy specifically called for Saddam to be overthrown.. Top of his list.. The PNAC letter to Clinton was taken from it verbatim.. Now look at how many dual citizen signatories signe the letter and how many of them went to work in the Bush administration.
Cool, Xiden and Clinton's Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 stated the same thing.

What's your point? Other then proving that a number of countries called for it

The Arab world was opposed to it and so were American expats in the ME. The French were opposed to it.

Look, dope. They had decided to invade Iraq no matter the intelligence, no matter the evidence and no matter what the Arabs, diplomats, oilmen, historians or Europeans said.
Cool story...i am not surprised some were opposed to it.

Not sure what your point is.

Yeah, Xiden and Clinton made the decision to overthrow Saddam in 1998, well before Bush was in office. Not sure your point

Lip service. The dual citizens were trying to trap Clinton.. Clinton wasn't that stupid and he already screwed up when he bombed the damned aspirin factory in Sudan based on idiot intelligence.
huh? Xiden who voted for the policy doesn't have "duel-citizenship"

and Clinton was already bombing Saddam

Seriously, your old Jewish conspiracy theory against the world is as old as the 3rd Reich..

The Jews didn't make Saddam create WMDs, use them, invade countries, ignore UN resolutions, murder, torture and rape his own people....just stop already, I am sure you can find some National Socialist website to spread your racist theories
 
ignore UN resolutions
SH was not ignoring UN Resolution 1441 when W decided to ignore UN Resolutions on March 17 2003 when W decided entirely on his own to lie through his teeth and kill half a million Iraqis 4474 American soldiers and waste $5 trillion dollars when he said:

“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.​

Biden was not in on that decision. He opposed it as I and six out of ten (the informed and Intelligent) Americans did. We were never fooled by W’s egregious lie.
 
You are trying to over simply a complex issue.

@struth’s lies are not complex at all. Its a simple straightforward fact that he is a liar

if he wasn’t hiding them...why were they hidden?? haha

They weren’t hidden, they were on junk piles waiting to be destroyed. They were not “the most lethal weapons ever devised” that W referred to here:


“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.

Correll Does the following take away your excuses for not answering questions you do not wish to answer? You can always just plead the fifth you know.

Saddam insanely destroyed the wmds, without documenting it

“Thus, the inspectors were on a fool's errand that they could NOT be successful at.”


That has got to be one of the stupidest warmonger arguments ever in the history of the world.

You must be the only warmonger in the entire world Making that absurd point..

We killed 500,000 and spent $5 Trillion on the
very same fools errand that you are now claiming the 1441 inspectors were on..

Would you not have preferred, as Biden suggested prior to the decision to invade, for the inspectors to have been on a fool’s errand instead of the US military being sent on one.

very, very hypothetical question, as that is not how the policy question was framed at the time, because we did not know what we know now.

Sorry, it's been several days, and I'm not going to comment on the exact wording of a question that you cut from the thread.



I don't know that in the formal authorization for war, that Bush defined the wmds he was looking for, or how specifically he did so.


As far as I know, the shells mentioned might very well have met that stated goal of the authorization for war.


The question then is, do you go with the letter of the authorization or the intent of the writer or the understanding of the voters.


Not, you seem to be a LETTER type of person. Me? I'm more a spirit or intent guy.


If you want to find and post the text of the authorization for discussion purposes, I will take a look at it, and we can discuss it.


I won't do it, because I don't care and it might take some time or even be somewhat difficult to find.



We both know that if Bush was smart enough to use vague language in the "letter" of the Authorization, that you will suddenly become a supporter of the "INTENT" or understanding of the voters,


and if he happened to be specific about which wmds to be found, suddenly you will become a supporter of the LETTER, option.


You are not a good faith debater. You are dishonest and you thus have no credibility, either way.
 
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

There are is only 1 reason why Bush determined it was necessary to start a war on March 17 2003. Its here:

“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.


You said the US military found them. You are a liar.
sure that was certainly a justification...and xiden had authorized him to use force

Invading a country because you are looking for nonexistent WMDs??
Bush finally admitted there were NONE. Why do you think the Brits went to so much trouble to SELL the war in 1998 with Operation Mass Appeal? They spent 3 years demonizing Saddam and Iraq in the press... propagandizing their position with rumors and speculation.

Talk about a witch hunt.. Didn't you catch on with the Booze Wars in KSA when the Brits were carbombing themselves and got caught?
Geez man, it's like talking to a five year old....we know all the reasons...numerous reasons, that Xiden and company outlined for taking out Saddam...WMDs were one of those reason...and nonexistant? I have highlighted, that somewhere found.

I am sure the Brits were just as concerned in 1998, Xiden and Clinton were as well..hence why they made it US policy in 1998 to overthrow Saddam


The thing that set all this crap in motion was a telethon that raised 10s of millions overnight for the Palestinians.. As soon as that happened in 2000 the MI6 began the booze war bombing trying to implicate the Palestinians.. So the Brits got caught blowing each other up and the propaganda to depose Saddam went into overrive.


You're not making any sense. That the brits didn't like Saddam either, is not really relevant to this discussion.

The Brits worked overtime to sell the war.. See Sir Derek Plumbly.
yep lots of countries dislike saddam and wanted him gone. Tends to happen when you are a murderous dictator


He seems to be trying to say that since the Brits wanted Saddam gone, that that means that since Bush wanted Saddam gone too, that that makes Bush's motives... something...


Bush was a British agent?


He is not making sense.

No..The US and the British were committed to giving Bibi what he wanted.


It is silly to think THe George W. Bush did not have his own motives.
 
You seem confused by my use of "technical".


No, actually you have a problem with the use of the phrase “technically correct”. struth ’s Statements are misleading, half truths, and lies of omission all to be summed up as lying.

This is a stunt that he is pulling when we are trying to have a serious conversation here.

Technically correct: Another example would be "I've never lost at chess" when the speaker has never played a game of chess.


And it thus would be TRUE.
 
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

There are is only 1 reason why Bush determined it was necessary to start a war on March 17 2003. Its here:

“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.


You said the US military found them. You are a liar.
sure that was certainly a justification...and xiden had authorized him to use force

Invading a country because you are looking for nonexistent WMDs??
Bush finally admitted there were NONE. Why do you think the Brits went to so much trouble to SELL the war in 1998 with Operation Mass Appeal? They spent 3 years demonizing Saddam and Iraq in the press... propagandizing their position with rumors and speculation.

Talk about a witch hunt.. Didn't you catch on with the Booze Wars in KSA when the Brits were carbombing themselves and got caught?
Geez man, it's like talking to a five year old....we know all the reasons...numerous reasons, that Xiden and company outlined for taking out Saddam...WMDs were one of those reason...and nonexistant? I have highlighted, that somewhere found.

I am sure the Brits were just as concerned in 1998, Xiden and Clinton were as well..hence why they made it US policy in 1998 to overthrow Saddam


The thing that set all this crap in motion was a telethon that raised 10s of millions overnight for the Palestinians.. As soon as that happened in 2000 the MI6 began the booze war bombing trying to implicate the Palestinians.. So the Brits got caught blowing each other up and the propaganda to depose Saddam went into overrive.


You're not making any sense. That the brits didn't like Saddam either, is not really relevant to this discussion.

The Brits worked overtime to sell the war.. See Sir Derek Plumbly.
yep lots of countries dislike saddam and wanted him gone. Tends to happen when you are a murderous dictator


He seems to be trying to say that since the Brits wanted Saddam gone, that that means that since Bush wanted Saddam gone too, that that makes Bush's motives... something...


Bush was a British agent?


He is not making sense.

No..The US and the British were committed to giving Bibi what he wanted.
Israel, like the rest of the world, didn't like Saddam either...most people don't like murderous dictators...but he was low on the list of issues for Israel, in comparison to Iran.

Also Bibi wasn't PM of Israel when we fullfilled the Clinton Xiden policy of overthrowing Saddam...

Bibi's Clean Break Strategy specifically called for Saddam to be overthrown.. Top of his list.. The PNAC letter to Clinton was taken from it verbatim.. Now look at how many dual citizen signatories signe the letter and how many of them went to work in the Bush administration.


So what? What is your point? YOu are not saying anything.

DO you think saying "JEW" a lot means you are winning the argument?
 
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

There are is only 1 reason why Bush determined it was necessary to start a war on March 17 2003. Its here:

“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.


You said the US military found them. You are a liar.
sure that was certainly a justification...and xiden had authorized him to use force

Invading a country because you are looking for nonexistent WMDs??
Bush finally admitted there were NONE. Why do you think the Brits went to so much trouble to SELL the war in 1998 with Operation Mass Appeal? They spent 3 years demonizing Saddam and Iraq in the press... propagandizing their position with rumors and speculation.

Talk about a witch hunt.. Didn't you catch on with the Booze Wars in KSA when the Brits were carbombing themselves and got caught?
Geez man, it's like talking to a five year old....we know all the reasons...numerous reasons, that Xiden and company outlined for taking out Saddam...WMDs were one of those reason...and nonexistant? I have highlighted, that somewhere found.

I am sure the Brits were just as concerned in 1998, Xiden and Clinton were as well..hence why they made it US policy in 1998 to overthrow Saddam


The thing that set all this crap in motion was a telethon that raised 10s of millions overnight for the Palestinians.. As soon as that happened in 2000 the MI6 began the booze war bombing trying to implicate the Palestinians.. So the Brits got caught blowing each other up and the propaganda to depose Saddam went into overrive.


You're not making any sense. That the brits didn't like Saddam either, is not really relevant to this discussion.

The Brits worked overtime to sell the war.. See Sir Derek Plumbly.
yep lots of countries dislike saddam and wanted him gone. Tends to happen when you are a murderous dictator


He seems to be trying to say that since the Brits wanted Saddam gone, that that means that since Bush wanted Saddam gone too, that that makes Bush's motives... something...


Bush was a British agent?


He is not making sense.

No..The US and the British were committed to giving Bibi what he wanted.
Israel, like the rest of the world, didn't like Saddam either...most people don't like murderous dictators...but he was low on the list of issues for Israel, in comparison to Iran.

Also Bibi wasn't PM of Israel when we fullfilled the Clinton Xiden policy of overthrowing Saddam...

Bibi's Clean Break Strategy specifically called for Saddam to be overthrown.. Top of his list.. The PNAC letter to Clinton was taken from it verbatim.. Now look at how many dual citizen signatories signe the letter and how many of them went to work in the Bush administration.
Cool, Xiden and Clinton's Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 stated the same thing.

What's your point? Other then proving that a number of countries called for it


He seems to think that showing that some jews were for something, is the same as proving that it was a bad idea and/or that anyone that also supported it, was a "jew lover" or some such...thing.


BUT, he doesnt' want to say so, because we can easily refute such bigotry.


And now he will pretend that that was NOT what he was saying. BUT, note, he won't say what he really was saying.


Because it is what he was saying.
 
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

There are is only 1 reason why Bush determined it was necessary to start a war on March 17 2003. Its here:

“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.


You said the US military found them. You are a liar.
sure that was certainly a justification...and xiden had authorized him to use force

Invading a country because you are looking for nonexistent WMDs??
Bush finally admitted there were NONE. Why do you think the Brits went to so much trouble to SELL the war in 1998 with Operation Mass Appeal? They spent 3 years demonizing Saddam and Iraq in the press... propagandizing their position with rumors and speculation.

Talk about a witch hunt.. Didn't you catch on with the Booze Wars in KSA when the Brits were carbombing themselves and got caught?
Geez man, it's like talking to a five year old....we know all the reasons...numerous reasons, that Xiden and company outlined for taking out Saddam...WMDs were one of those reason...and nonexistant? I have highlighted, that somewhere found.

I am sure the Brits were just as concerned in 1998, Xiden and Clinton were as well..hence why they made it US policy in 1998 to overthrow Saddam


The thing that set all this crap in motion was a telethon that raised 10s of millions overnight for the Palestinians.. As soon as that happened in 2000 the MI6 began the booze war bombing trying to implicate the Palestinians.. So the Brits got caught blowing each other up and the propaganda to depose Saddam went into overrive.


You're not making any sense. That the brits didn't like Saddam either, is not really relevant to this discussion.

The Brits worked overtime to sell the war.. See Sir Derek Plumbly.
yep lots of countries dislike saddam and wanted him gone. Tends to happen when you are a murderous dictator


He seems to be trying to say that since the Brits wanted Saddam gone, that that means that since Bush wanted Saddam gone too, that that makes Bush's motives... something...


Bush was a British agent?


He is not making sense.

No..The US and the British were committed to giving Bibi what he wanted.
Israel, like the rest of the world, didn't like Saddam either...most people don't like murderous dictators...but he was low on the list of issues for Israel, in comparison to Iran.

Also Bibi wasn't PM of Israel when we fullfilled the Clinton Xiden policy of overthrowing Saddam...

Bibi's Clean Break Strategy specifically called for Saddam to be overthrown.. Top of his list.. The PNAC letter to Clinton was taken from it verbatim.. Now look at how many dual citizen signatories signe the letter and how many of them went to work in the Bush administration.


So what? What is your point? YOu are not saying anything.

DO you think saying "JEW" a lot means you are winning the argument?

Has NOTHNG to do with Jewish people.. It has to do with Bibi and European Zionism. They killed Rabin, remember? And they hate the J Street Jews. ,
 
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

There are is only 1 reason why Bush determined it was necessary to start a war on March 17 2003. Its here:

“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.


You said the US military found them. You are a liar.
sure that was certainly a justification...and xiden had authorized him to use force

Invading a country because you are looking for nonexistent WMDs??
Bush finally admitted there were NONE. Why do you think the Brits went to so much trouble to SELL the war in 1998 with Operation Mass Appeal? They spent 3 years demonizing Saddam and Iraq in the press... propagandizing their position with rumors and speculation.

Talk about a witch hunt.. Didn't you catch on with the Booze Wars in KSA when the Brits were carbombing themselves and got caught?
Geez man, it's like talking to a five year old....we know all the reasons...numerous reasons, that Xiden and company outlined for taking out Saddam...WMDs were one of those reason...and nonexistant? I have highlighted, that somewhere found.

I am sure the Brits were just as concerned in 1998, Xiden and Clinton were as well..hence why they made it US policy in 1998 to overthrow Saddam


The thing that set all this crap in motion was a telethon that raised 10s of millions overnight for the Palestinians.. As soon as that happened in 2000 the MI6 began the booze war bombing trying to implicate the Palestinians.. So the Brits got caught blowing each other up and the propaganda to depose Saddam went into overrive.


You're not making any sense. That the brits didn't like Saddam either, is not really relevant to this discussion.

The Brits worked overtime to sell the war.. See Sir Derek Plumbly.
yep lots of countries dislike saddam and wanted him gone. Tends to happen when you are a murderous dictator


He seems to be trying to say that since the Brits wanted Saddam gone, that that means that since Bush wanted Saddam gone too, that that makes Bush's motives... something...


Bush was a British agent?


He is not making sense.

No..The US and the British were committed to giving Bibi what he wanted.
Israel, like the rest of the world, didn't like Saddam either...most people don't like murderous dictators...but he was low on the list of issues for Israel, in comparison to Iran.

Also Bibi wasn't PM of Israel when we fullfilled the Clinton Xiden policy of overthrowing Saddam...

Bibi's Clean Break Strategy specifically called for Saddam to be overthrown.. Top of his list.. The PNAC letter to Clinton was taken from it verbatim.. Now look at how many dual citizen signatories signe the letter and how many of them went to work in the Bush administration.


So what? What is your point? YOu are not saying anything.

DO you think saying "JEW" a lot means you are winning the argument?

Has NOTHNG to do with Jewish people.. It has to do with Bibi and European Zionism. They killed Rabin, remember? And they hate the J Street Jews. ,


So....you still having made any real points.
 
And it thus would be TRUE.
Intentionally misleading to give the sanctity of truth to a giving a false impression is still a lie.


Why did struth come to what you and I believe?

i never said they were the “WMD that was used to justify the war”

What was the significance of bringing the old corroded shells up if finding them had nothing to do with justifying the war.

He is admitting that he never played chess so why did he mention that he never lost playing it. It’s a lie - since we don’t need comedians trying to justify the lies that killed half a million innocent Iraqis for nothing they did against us.
 
And it thus would be TRUE.
Intentionally misleading to give the sanctity of truth to a giving a false impression is still a lie.


Why did struth come to what you and I believe?

i never said they were the “WMD that was used to justify the war”

What was the significance of bringing the old corroded shells up if finding them had nothing to do with justifying the war.

He is admitting that he never played chess so why did he mention that he never lost playing it. It’s a lie - since we don’t need comedians trying to justify the lies that killed half a million innocent Iraqis for nothing they did against us.


Because it fulfills the letter of the authorization.

You've been a real stickler for precise wording up until now. Suddenly, you switch, to more a big picture, intent kind of guy, when it becomes convenient.


That is an intent to deceive on your part.
 
And it thus would be TRUE.
Intentionally misleading to give the sanctity of truth to a giving a false impression is still a lie.


Why did struth come to what you and I believe?

i never said they were the “WMD that was used to justify the war”

What was the significance of bringing the old corroded shells up if finding them had nothing to do with justifying the war.

He is admitting that he never played chess so why did he mention that he never lost playing it. It’s a lie - since we don’t need comedians trying to justify the lies that killed half a million innocent Iraqis for nothing they did against us.
hahaha

I never said they justified the war...you said I said that...you lied.

There were numerous reason to justify the war, outlined in Xiden authorization, as well as Xiden and Clinton's law making it US policy to overthrow Saddam

The fact Saddam had WMDs, and was hiding them is just yet another reason
 
And it thus would be TRUE.
Intentionally misleading to give the sanctity of truth to a giving a false impression is still a lie.


Why did struth come to what you and I believe?

i never said they were the “WMD that was used to justify the war”

What was the significance of bringing the old corroded shells up if finding them had nothing to do with justifying the war.

He is admitting that he never played chess so why did he mention that he never lost playing it. It’s a lie - since we don’t need comedians trying to justify the lies that killed half a million innocent Iraqis for nothing they did against us.
hahaha

I never said they justified the war...you said I said that...you lied.

There were numerous reason to justify the war, outlined in Xiden authorization, as well as Xiden and Clinton's law making it US policy to overthrow Saddam

The fact Saddam had WMDs, and was hiding them is just yet another reason


What was it? Ten? 14? I know it was a lot of reasons.
 
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

What WMD’s were found? Old corroded unusable artillery shells on a scrap heap were not considered WMD when they were found. they were considered junk. So you are a liar.
 
the justification. for war is outlined in Xiden authorization. law...there are a number of reasons.

and yes WMDs were found as a i stated...and what was reported

What WMD’s were found? Old corroded unusable artillery shells on a scrap heap were not considered WMD when they were found. they were considered junk. So you are a liar.


What they were "considered" when they were found is irrelevant.


What they ARE, is what is relevant.


That you would try to spin the answer like that, so dishonesty, is you admitting that you have to lie to defend your position.
 
The fact Saddam had WMDs, and was hiding them is just yet another reason

You are a liar. Saddam did not have WMD hidden from 1441 inspectors. Your lie is calling old corroded artillery shells WMD.

You are also lying when you say there were other reasons besides active new WMD being hidden from 1441 inspectors that justified war.

Justifucation for the war had to be based on a threat such as SH trying to hide real WMD. It could be because he gassed the Kurds twenty years earlier.
 
The fact Saddam had WMDs, and was hiding them is just yet another reason

You are a liar. Saddam did not have WMD hidden from 1441 inspectors. Your lie is calling old corroded artillery shells WMD.

You are also lying when you say there were other reasons besides active new WMD being hidden from 1441 inspectors that justified war.

Justifucation for the war had to be based on a threat such as SH trying to hide real WMD. It could be because he gassed the Kurds twenty years earlier.

The case for war was not solely based on wmds. you are now lying. Again.
 
What they were "considered" when they were found is irrelevant.
You are a liar and you cheapen language. You do not get to decide what is relevant and what us not.

If it were true that old corroded junk were ‘considered’ the WMD Bush killed half a million Iraqis to find he would have no sickening feeling and no reason to be angry because Lyin’ struth said we found them.

2010: But Mr Bush admits that he was shocked when no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq. "No one was more shocked and angry than I was when we didn't find the weapons," he writes.​

"I had a sickening feeling every time I thought about it. I still do."​
 

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