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[irosie91]

Again... you are skipping quite a few steps in the evolution of space and time into beings that know and create.

YES----I presented a VERY ABBREVIATED OVER VIEW

 

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YES----I presented a VERY ABBREVIATED OVER VIEW

And skipped over opposable thumbs and fire.

 

[irosie91]

And skipped over opposable thumbs and fire.

Opposable thumbs were in force even when your ancestors were living in trees---
fire happened later

 

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Opposable thumbs were in force even when your ancestors were living in trees---
fire happened later

And both were critical to intelligence arising. But even that is skipping steps.

 

[irosie91]

And both were critical to intelligence arising. But even that is skipping steps.

be patient, ding-bat-----and while you are waiting, make good use of your
prehensile tail

 

[ding]

be patient, ding

Always. More than you will ever know.

 

[BreezeWood]

Why didn't intelligence evolve in fish or reptiles? They've been around longer than we have and must have had plenty of opportunities.

it's not like they are missing anything by not reading a book ...

their intelligence as all living beings proves itself by their continued existance that began 3.7 billion years ago on planet earth.

 

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Why?

Seriously?

I'm betting I don't. Please share.

Locomotion.

 

[alang1216]

Seriously?

Seriously.

Locomotion.

Locomotion? Plenty of critters moved quite nicely before they ever went on land. So what was the first step?

 

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Seriously.

No. You aren't serious. You aren't that stupid.

Locomotion? Plenty of critters moved quite nicely before they ever went on land. So what was the first step?

Tetrapods. It turns out that 4 limbs is the most logical way for moving on land. Just as having two eyes, two ears, two nostrils, two sinus cavities and two lungs is logical for redundancy.

 

[alang1216]

No. You aren't serious. You aren't that stupid.

Got it. You have no idea so imply it is obvious and you don't have to justify it.

Tetrapods. It turns out that 4 limbs is the most logical way for moving on land.

Really? Another evidence-free assertion. You know of course that the first land animal was most likely a millipede, but in your defense they are not known for their logic.

Just as having two eyes, two ears, two nostrils, two sinus cavities and two lungs is logical for redundancy.

That is exactly NOT why we have two eyes, ears, etc. It is for listening to stereo and watching 3d movies.

 

[ding]

Got it. You have no idea so imply it is obvious and you don't have to justify it.

It is obvious because it is self evident. No one is building a technological society under water. The environment is too challenging and not conducive to creating beings that know and create. Do you see many sea creatures with appendages that can grasp a tool or develop spatial awareness? How about the caloric requirements of brains? How will that be met without cooking food which effectively serves as pre-digestion so that enough calories can be taken in to power a brain. You probably don't even know that over a third of the calories you take in go to power your brain.

Really? Another evidence-free assertion. You know of course that the first land animal was most likely a millipede, but in your defense they are not known for their logic.

It's amazing how arrogant you are given how little you know about this. Try looking at the big picture for a change. Here's the big picture.

Rather than believing that evolution occurs randomly (which is doesn't) try using reverse engineering to discover the path evolution took to create intelligence.

That is exactly NOT why we have two eyes, ears, etc. It is for listening to stereo and watching 3d movies.

Actually it's due to the need of redundancy. It wasn't an accident. It wasn't a random development. It's logical and serves a purpose. Redundancy of critical functions is a functional advantage.

 

[alang1216]

It is obvious because it is self evident.

Classic line. Kudos.

No one is building a technological society under water. The environment is too challenging and not conducive to creating beings that know and create.

You mean you can't imagine how it would happen.

Do you see many sea creatures with appendages that can grasp a tool or develop spatial awareness?

I don't see that many land creatures that can do that either.

How about the caloric requirements of brains? How will that be met without cooking food which effectively serves as pre-digestion so that enough calories can be taken in to power a brain. You probably don't even know that over a third of the calories you take in go to power your brain.

It is possible that meat eating is key but the seas have plenty of meat.

It's amazing how arrogant you are given how little you know about this. Try looking at the big picture for a change. Here's the big picture.

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That is actually not the 'big' picture, it is a limited view. Amphibians didn't die our in the Permian and reptiles didn't die out in the Cretaceous.

Rather than believing that evolution occurs randomly (which is doesn't) try using reverse engineering to discover the path evolution took to create intelligence.

There is plenty of random events that came together. Climate change, meteor strikes, volcanic eruptions, etc.

Actually it's due to the need of redundancy. It wasn't an accident. It wasn't a random development. It's logical and serves a purpose. Redundancy of critical functions is a functional advantage.

Evidence? You're logic is off. It is better to regrow something than carry around a spare of everything.

 

[surada]

Except there are plenty of species that have survived relatively unchanged for hundreds of millions of years

Did you read my post?

 

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It is obvious because it is self evident. No one is building a technological society under water. The environment is too challenging and not conducive to creating beings that know and create. Do you see many sea creatures with appendages that can grasp a tool or develop spatial awareness? How about the caloric requirements of brains? How will that be met without cooking food which effectively serves as pre-digestion so that enough calories can be taken in to power a brain. You probably don't even know that over a third of the calories you take in go to power your brain.

Classic line. Kudos. You mean you can't imagine how it would happen. I don't see that many land creatures that can do that either. It is possible that meat eating is key but the seas have plenty of meat.

It's amazing that you literally live in a technological society built by beings that know and create and can't recognize it. Which probably explains why you believe it is possible for a technological society arising under the sea.

It's not meat eating, dummy, it's increased calorie intake which was made possible by cooking FOOD which pre-digests the food and allows a greater amount of energy to be taken in to fuel our brains which on average uses more than a third of the calories we consume.

That is actually not the 'big' picture, it is a limited view. Amphibians didn't die our in the Permian and reptiles didn't die out in the Cretaceous.

It most certainly is the big picture. W know this because you did not provide a competing big picture which I invite you to do so now. The critical theory in this one is strong.

There is plenty of random events that came together. Climate change, meteor strikes, volcanic eruptions, etc.

Are you seriously trying to argue evolution occurs randomly?

 

[alang1216]

Did you read my post?

Yes. So?

 

[surada]

Yes. So?

I listed animals that hadn't changed.

 

[irosie91]

I listed animals that hadn't changed.

some things just do not change. I am
firmly convinced that human societies
that are LITERATE do not EVOLVE into
illiterate societies

 

[Lisa558]

some things just do not change. I am
firmly convinced that human societies
that are LITERATE do not EVOLVE into
illiterate societies

What if you have a society that is literate, and you keep importing millions and millions of illiterates into it. Depending on the numbers, you will eventually end up with a large segment of that society that can barely read.

Dems see that as progress!

 

[irosie91]

What if you have a society that is literate, and you keep importing millions and millions of illiterates into it. Depending on the numbers, you will eventually end up with a large segment of that society that can barely read.

Dems see that as progress!

true----but it is a DIFFERENT problem. It is
an attack on resources