Do You Equate 'Far Right" w/simply just "Right?" or "Rightwing?"

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Sure, no problem...

Why did you put the word "no" in bold?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Ludwig von Mises

 

[bripat9643]

i dont ......to me the far right are the die hard republican party people who follow that party no matter what.....the righties who may be republican but just dont follow that party like the die hards do are just righties....i look at the left the same way.....

There are no such people.

 

[MarathonMike]

Why/why not?

Not sure. Can you specify EXACTLY what "far right" views are as opposed to "right" views?

 

[bripat9643]

Can there be any distinction between the far right and the right wing?
Or fwiw, the far left and the left wing?

From a Canadian's perspective, there doesn't seem to be a 'left' in America, as it would correspond to the 'left' in Canada and most European countries.

Biden only claims to represent something that isn't the 'right', but can't even mention the word 'left'.

Being a 'leftist' is demonized in America and is almost exclusively unacceptable.

Proof: Do we have any leftists on this board?

Personally, I claim to be a far leftist on the American political spectrum, by pretty close to 'middle of the road' on the world's political spectrum.

What do you imagine the difference is between the left in Canada and the left in the USA?

 

[MarcATL]

Why did you put the word "no" in bold?

Emphasis.

 

[MarcATL]

Not sure. Can you specify EXACTLY what "far right" views are as opposed to "right" views?

Post #7.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Why/why not?

The Right Wing is the opposite of the Conservative Wing of the Republican Party, known by the Right Wing as RINOS. The Far Right Wing are those who support and defend Donald Trump, and they are not conservatives, they are fascists, aka Trumpism.

 

[Rye Catcher]

I equate you libtards with insanity.

This ^^^ is absurd. Way past the usual Idiot-Gram.

 

[bripat9643]

This ^^^ is absurd. Way past the usual Idiot-Gram.

It's perfectly accurate. Just consider the Green New Deal.

 

[BlackSand]

Why/why not?

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Ireland is a relatively small country and has 19 established Political Parties.
The benefit of this is that every half-baked nutjob, can find a party that most closely associates with their desires in governance.

As a result, they not only marginalize themselves, then have to work together to accomplish anything ...
It's makes them easier to attack and properly identify.

In America, we have two major Political Parties ...
And for the most part every half-baked nutjob falls almost evenly in both of those parties.



To answer the question in the OP ...
Far Right Half-Baked Nutjobs are closer to Far Left Half-Baked Nutjobs than the Middle.

White Supremacists may not agree with proponents of Critical Race Theory ... And are dramatically opposed in ideology.
But they both think the Government should take an active Authoritarian role in supporting their Ideology.



Long Story Short ...
It doesn't matter what you call them because Left or Right may be defined in ideology ...
But does not necessarily address the mass of either, or their desires in a method of Governance.

And as progressive hunter alluded to ...
The Establishment is Left of Center and leaning towards Authoritarian Governance in general.

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[Rye Catcher]

It's perfectly accurate. Just consider the Green New Deal.

Post what you believe is the Green New Deal.

Provide some examples!

 

[PoliticalChic]

First......there is no Far Right in this country.
It is a term of art made up by the Democrats because they are the Far Left....I'll prove that.



The is no Far Right in this nation....but there certainly is a Far Left.

The thesis is based on the definitions involved:



To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."


"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)



It's what the radical Obama was getting at when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008. “

Transforming from the positions that America was built on.




Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left



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“Transgender Athlete Chelsea Wolfe Says Goal Is To 'Burn a US Flag' at Olympic Podium”

Transgender athlete Chelsea Wolfe says goal is to "burn a US flag" at Olympic podium​

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1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?

2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.



3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.



Starting to see a pattern?



4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,



LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.

5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..



6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.



A radical and Progressive position.



He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."



7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...



Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,

"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.



Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???



Oh...wait....he did build concentration camps for innocent civilians....his own citizens.



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"



Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???



Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.

A clear affront to the honor bestowed on the press by the first amendment.

And don't forget this winner......men can menstruate and have babies and women can become men.

And you vote for this.







And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

This is interesting.....some buffoon posted a disagree emoticon......on a post thouroughly documented, with numerous examples.....

....and this chllenge:


And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

He couldn't......yet posted 'disagree.'





This is the sort to be known as an "Elmer."


Earlier, I explained what an Elmer is....



....one poster, Elmer, came up with this knee-jerk post from one of the indoctrinated:



“ There were hundreds if not thousands of people who lost jobs, careers, even families based on McCarty's (sic) over reach and list he compiled and interrogated. Innocent people.”

Yea Or Nay?



One hears this time and again from the indoctrinated....

If this is true…..it should be eminently simple to prove.



When challenged, he could not name a single such innocent ruined by McCarthy......yet he doubled down with his lies, continuing to blame McCarthy.



And now you....when given documentation that refutes your post, the same.





Another Elmer.

Elmers are what keeps the Democrats in business.

 

[MarathonMike]

Post #7.

There are no specifics in your wikipedia link that give examples of what "far right" means. It sounds like it was written by CNN equating far-right with Nazis and Fascists. Standard Leftist drivel. I'm asking YOU to give an example of what a "far-right" view is as opposed to just a "right" view. It's your thread, support it.

 

[blackhawk]

I don’t equate it with anything I judge individuals by their words and actions and leave the broad brush characterizations to the simple minded.

 

[Donald H]

What do you imagine the difference is between the left in Canada and the left in the USA?

It's my opinion that the left doesn't exist in America. Didn't you read that?

What do you imagine the difference is between the left in Canada and the left in the USA?

It's my opinion that there is no 'left' in America. Didn't you read that?

If you feel any sincerity in carrying on a discussion with me, you're going to have to demonstrate that.

What are the ideals of the political left that are consistent with US politics.

And don't try telling me of ideals that are givens for the needs of humanity. That means that affordable universal health care is not an ideal of the 'left'.

You're being given one opportunity to behave in an appropriate manner!

You WILL NOT talk to me in the way you talk to Americans!

 

[bripat9643]

It's my opinion that the left doesn't exist in America. Didn't you read that?

That just shows you are an idiot.

If you feel any sincerity in carrying on a discussion with me, you're going to have to demonstrate that.

What are the ideals of the political left that are consistent with US politics.

All the ideals of the left are consistent with the Democrat agenda.

And don't try telling me of ideals that are givens for the needs of humanity. That means that affordable universal health care is not an ideal of the 'left'.

"Accordable healthcare" is just a leftist euphemism for socialized medicine. It most certainly is an ideal of the left.

You're being given one opportunity to behave in an appropriate manner!

You WILL NOT talk to me in the way you talk to Americans!

Ridicule is the "appropriate manner" to talk to you.

 

[CowboyTed]

Why/why not?

Lets put this in perspective...

The Democrats would be a centre right party in nearly all other first world countries.

Where do you think that put RINOs.

Then think where Trump would be ...

 

[The Original Tree]

Why/why not?

Replace words in a Lefty's Post every time a DemNazi Fascist says MAGA, Right, Ultra Right, Right Wing, Alt Right, Deplorables, Russian Collusion, Conspiracy Theorist, Red Neck, Election Denier, Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper, Anti Vaxxer, Conservative, or January 6th with "DIRTY JOOS" and you know now exactly what these people are.

All The Right is about is God, Country, Family and Freedom.

Some how that threatens you Globalist Fascist Marxist Socialists.

I guess Freedom God, Country and Family don't mix with Fascism, PC Religion, and Equity Pandering nor does it mix with America in general.

 

[bripat9643]

Post what you believe is the Green New Deal.

Provide some examples!

Forcing Americans to convert to wind and solar.