Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....

[poet]

not everything but more than a perfectly illiterate bigot who would smear a man based on the color of his skin and not one single thing more!!!

Bitch, stop lying on me. I did no such thing, mainly because I was taught that color is unimportant, and that only hearts and minds matter. You stupid lying bitch. Illiterate? I could out-think you on my worst day, and send you crying to the dictionary.

Dear, you judged a man based on the color of his skin. I'd say that makes you a bigot!! Liberals do it all the time. They assume any black man who thinks for himself is defective.

We live a Christian world though so it is possible you could be forgiven. I can arrange it actually. If you read Sowell's book and report back to us any significant errors you find relative to our subject I'll see to it. Deal??

Fuck that. I'm so sick and tired of you people claiming that only black conservatives can "think for themselves", by way of professing a conservative philosophy. It don't work like that, to your chagrin. If a black supports, adheres to, or endorses the racist Republican platform, then he is a race traitor, a Stephin Fetchit Negro, a plantation mentality that would allow Massa to discriminate against him or her, while he or she panders and clamors for the crumbs falling from Massa's table. I said it. I'm here to represent it.
I don't judge folks on the basis of skin color, for the umpteenth time. I define me, bitch...you have no dog in that race.
And we live in a world, actually, of many faiths, beliefs and religions, which you want to ignore, and diminish, evidently not understanding the precept of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which you claim to revere and know backwards and forwards. I categorically and summarily dismiss Thomas Sowell, his writings and teachings, because I can. Report back to you? LMAO. Lincoln freed the slaves....some didn't get the memo.

 

[t_polkow]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

Notice the counties with Socialized Medicine and the costs vrs capitalist healthcare

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I categorically and summarily dismiss Thomas Sowell,

that makes you a bigot and an illiterate since you have not read him!!
Are you proud of yourself??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

Notice the counties with Socialized Medicine and the costs vrs capitalist healthcare

sorry but Medicare Medicaid VA Schip and Tricare are not example of capitalism.

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow?

 

[expatriate]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

Notice the counties with Socialized Medicine and the costs vrs capitalist healthcare

sorry but Medicare Medicaid VA Schip and Tricare are not example of capitalism.

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow?

the fact that we have some government funded healthcare programs does not change the fact that our total system is overwhelmingly driven by capitalist profit motives.

 

[expatriate]

and Ed... are you still sticking with your previous position that sick people are health insurance companies' favorite customers?

 

[Dragonlady]

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow?

Eddie, it is you that's slow. Too slow to see that you pay twice as much as I do for my health care. To slow to see that 100's of insurance companies all having actuaries, underwriters and claims staff for each of them, is driving up the cost of US healthcare.

Any dollars not spent on doctors, nurses, and hospitals, is money wasted. US healthcare is the most ineffecient, administration heavy, health care system in the world, because private health insurance spends a lot of money trying to limit what they pay out. Single payer is cheaper and the quality of care received, overall, is better.

In the US, only the rich and the insured get good health care. The standard of care given to those without insurance, is a public embarassment.

 

[rdean]

 

[Dragonlady]

I categorically and summarily dismiss Thomas Sowell,

that makes you a bigot and an illiterate since you have not read him!!
Are you proud of yourself??

No it makes YOU a biggot because the only black man you don't think is stupid is Sowell. Any black who votes it his own best interest is stupid. Any black man who doesn't think Obama is a socialist is stupid. Any liberal is stupid. Anyone who doesn't think like you is stupid.

You don't understand even the basics of economics. You go on about wealth in America - how wealthy are you Eddie? How much money did you - so much cleverer than us dumb liberals, manage to salt away Eddie? Or are you one of the 47% you and your kind like to revile.

How much government money do you take Eddie?

 

[poet]

I categorically and summarily dismiss Thomas Sowell,

that makes you a bigot and an illiterate since you have not read him!!
Are you proud of yourself??

How do you know what I've read? I actually have read him, and disagree with 99.9 % he espouses. Illiterate? Based on what? Whether I've read Sowell or not? You're an idiot.
He's a Stephin Fetchit Negro, reduced to "carrying water", for racist, conservative whites.

 

[Grandma]

Eddie, we spent decades doing it the capitalist way. Patients became homeless and insurance company CEOs became multimillionaires.

Your way has failed.

 

[editec]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

You know I a\often wonder what the state of HC in this nation would be like if there had been no third-party payment systems (government or private) devised for health care.

I suspect, just as you do, that:

1. the cost of HC would be much MUCH more in line with what people could pay out of pocket. (and that HC providers wouldn't be so wealthy); and

2. The state of the art of HC would be far less advanced than it currently is.

In my lifetime this nation has gone from spending 4% of the GDP on health care to over 18%.

So much wealth going into HC research and treatment gave us very advanced medicine that a;most nobody can afford except through socialized (either private or public ) insurance schemes.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

if there had been no third-party payment systems (government or private) devised for health care.

1) a government or soviet monopoly of course will be very very inefficient and expensive. A private capitalist competitive insurance system would be the exact opposite.

2. The state of the art of HC would be far less advanced than it currently is.

why would you say that? A better product is always the best way to leap frog your competition! Cars computers phones etc etc all got much much better thanks to capitalism, the greatest life saving force in human history by 100000%

 

[Underhill]

if there had been no third-party payment systems (government or private) devised for health care.

1) a government or soviet monopoly of course will be very very inefficient and expensive. A private capitalist competitive insurance system would be the exact opposite.

2. The state of the art of HC would be far less advanced than it currently is.

why would you say that? A better product is always the best way to leap frog your competition! Cars computers phones etc etc all got much much better thanks to capitalism, the greatest life saving force in human history by 100000%

Capitalism is great as building a million widgets cheap and selling them for a profit.

Where they suck is caring for people. They only care about the profit motive. So yes, a purely capitalistic system would be the most cost effective. But if you think care would be better, you are deluding yourself.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Where they suck is caring for people. They only care about the profit motive.

of course that is very very very stupid and profoundly so !! If you want a good car you only buy a good car and the bad car companies go out of business, if you want good care you only buy good care and those who don't provide good care go out of business!

Capitalism is the best way to improve the quality of caring at the fastest possible rate!! A government system provides no competition and no incentive to care and improve each day.

As a liberal you'll find that over your brainwashed head.

 

[Dragonlady]

if there had been no third-party payment systems (government or private) devised for health care.

1) a government or soviet monopoly of course will be very very inefficient and expensive. A private capitalist competitive insurance system would be the exact opposite.

Prior to Lyndon Johnson signing the Medicare Act of 1965, that is what the US had - a completely capitalistic health care system with private insurance only, and it was a problem because half of Americans couldn't afford private health insurance.

The capitalistic system you long for was tried for 200 years and it was an epic FAIL, Eddie. By 1965, half of all Americans could not afford private health insurance. So much for your "free market competition would lower prices". One quarter of the money Americans pay for US health care goes to pay for insurance company staff whose job it is to refuse or limit their claims.

Only someone too dumb to be one person defends the capitalistic US health care system as having the ability to provide quality health care at a cost comparable to or lower than a single payer system. In fact, the intelligent argument that conservatives use is that there are not enough doctors and hospitals to handle the increase in the number of patients if 100% of Americans have full access to the system, and that waiting listing will abound when universal health care comes in.

Nobody but an idiot would argue that a capitalist system will be cheaper. And you, Eddie are that idiot.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Nobody but an idiot would argue that a capitalist system will be cheaper.

so would you recommend that China switch back to a liberal socialist system in which 60 million slowly starved to death??

See why we are positive a liberal will be very very slow?

 

[Dragonlady]

Nobody but an idiot would argue that a capitalist system will be cheaper.

so would you recommend that China switch back to a liberal socialist system in which 60 million slowly starved to death??

See why we are positive a liberal will be very very slow?

This is why we consider you a total idiot Eddie. Your data on China is false. 60 million people were not starving to death. In fact, more people are starving now wages have dropped, all social programs in China have been cancelled and price controls are gone.

Republicans lie to you because they want to do the same thing to the US. You won't have earrned income credits then Eddie. On a positive note, you won't have internet so we'll be spared your useless diatribes.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

In fact, more people are starving now wages have dropped, all social programs in China have been cancelled and price controls are gone.

if you have evidence of this I will pay you $10,000. Bet or admit to being a psycho nut job liberal!!!

In 2006, there were 236,000 dollar millionaires, known as dakuan, in China, in 2005 and more than 250,000 in 2006, compared with 2.7 million in the United States. China now has the sixth largest population of millionaires in the world, far more than in India and Russia combined, and the number is growing at a rate of 15 percent a year.

By one estimate around six or seven million Chinese, about 5 percent of the population, have assets of $100,000. This is considered rich by Chinese standards. As of 2004, there were an estimated 10,000 Chinese with assets over $10 million. As of 2007, the richest 800 people in China had an average net worth of $562 million.

A total of 3.39 million vehicles were sold in the country in January and February, rising 14.7% from the same period last year, the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM) said in a statement.

Summary
The automobile industry, a key sector in China’s industrialization and modernization efforts, has
been developing rapidly since the 1990s. In recent years, China has become the world’s fastest
growing automotive producer. Annual vehicle output has increased from less than 2 million
vehicles in the late 1990s to 9.5 million in 2008.

 

[Dragonlady]

The wealth of a nation is not counted by how many millionaires there are, but by how well the common people live. By your standard, the oil based economies of the Middle East are the most successful in the world because of the ratio of multi-billionaires to the number of citizens.

It's the standard of living that counts, not the money controlled by a few.