Does anyone actually think that Donald Trump would make a good President?

[sealybobo]

There's been a lot of Trump support recently on the boards, but it's almost always been couched in anti-liberal rhetoric - along the lines of "I like Trump because he makes liberals upset". I have yet to see anyone put there cards on the table and publicly state that they think he would be a good President.

So here we go. Let's here some positive things about Donald Trump from the resident supporters.

What qualities does Donald Trump have that would make him a good President?

Just like the GOP ruined the economy and Republicans blamed Democrats trump will not get the nomination and somehow we will get the blame.

Republicans need to start talking to each other. So far they all seem to love trump.

I can't see why he won't win.

And how is jeb leading in the polls? Seems like the GOP is already telling Republicans they're going with bush.

Where are all the bush supporters? I mean that is your choice already?

Conservative love the idea of a no nonsense, candidate who will tell the media to fuck off, insult America's enemy's, and give no quarter to his opponents. However, they also know, corporate sponsors and most middle of the road Americans are scared shirtless of having a wild card in the white house that's subject to temper tantrums and is more likely to speak for himself than the nation when dealing with other countries.

Excuse me, but if Americans were scared of a wild card, just how did Obama get in there?

Because we loved Obama enough to nominate and elect him.

 

[sealybobo]

There's been a lot of Trump support recently on the boards, but it's almost always been couched in anti-liberal rhetoric - along the lines of "I like Trump because he makes liberals upset". I have yet to see anyone put there cards on the table and publicly state that they think he would be a good President.

So here we go. Let's here some positive things about Donald Trump from the resident supporters.

What qualities does Donald Trump have that would make him a good President?

Just like the GOP ruined the economy and Republicans blamed Democrats trump will not get the nomination and somehow we will get the blame.

Republicans need to start talking to each other. So far they all seem to love trump.

I can't see why he won't win.

And how is jeb leading in the polls? Seems like the GOP is already telling Republicans they're going with bush.

Where are all the bush supporters? I mean that is your choice already?

Conservative love the idea of a no nonsense, candidate who will tell the media to fuck off, insult America's enemy's, and give no quarter to his opponents. However, they also know, corporate sponsors and most middle of the road Americans are scared shirtless of having a wild card in the white house that's subject to temper tantrums and is more likely to speak for himself than the nation when dealing with other countries.

Excuse me, but if Americans were scared of a wild card, just how did Obama get in there?

Obama was no wild card. He told you exactly what his agenda would be, healthcare, getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan, abolishing Don't Ask, Don't Tell, support gay marriage and providing massive stimulus to the economy to pull the country out of recession. Americans, both liberal and conservative knew exactly what they were getting, a liberal democrat that would spend massive amounts of money and would make major domestic changes which is exactly what he has done.

Good post except he wasn't for gay marriage before the second term

 

[sealybobo]

There's been a lot of Trump support recently on the boards, but it's almost always been couched in anti-liberal rhetoric - along the lines of "I like Trump because he makes liberals upset". I have yet to see anyone put there cards on the table and publicly state that they think he would be a good President.

So here we go. Let's here some positive things about Donald Trump from the resident supporters.

What qualities does Donald Trump have that would make him a good President?

Just like the GOP ruined the economy and Republicans blamed Democrats trump will not get the nomination and somehow we will get the blame.

Republicans need to start talking to each other. So far they all seem to love trump.

I can't see why he won't win.

And how is jeb leading in the polls? Seems like the GOP is already telling Republicans they're going with bush.

Where are all the bush supporters? I mean that is your choice already?

Conservative love the idea of a no nonsense, candidate who will tell the media to fuck off, insult America's enemy's, and give no quarter to his opponents. However, they also know, corporate sponsors and most middle of the road Americans are scared shirtless of having a wild card in the white house that's subject to temper tantrums and is more likely to speak for himself than the nation when dealing with other countries.

Excuse me, but if Americans were scared of a wild card, just how did Obama get in there?

Obama was no wild card. He told you exactly what his agenda would be healthcare, getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan, abolishing Don't Ask, Don't Tell and support gay marriage and providing massive stimulus to the economy to pull the country out of recession. American's both liberal and conservative knew exactly what they were getting.

He also said he was going to "heal America" racially. That was a damn lie. He knew that he was going to make the white guy pay and do all he could for "his" people.

I think and say I'm going to come here and cure heal and fix your broken Republican conservatives. That's not a lie it's a goal of mine. If I don't accomplish it that isn't a lie because I tried

 

[sealybobo]

Conservative love the idea of a no nonsense, candidate who will tell the media to fuck off, insult America's enemy's, and give no quarter to his opponents. However, they also know, corporate sponsors and most middle of the road Americans are scared shirtless of having a wild card in the white house that's subject to temper tantrums and is more likely to speak for himself than the nation when dealing with other countries.

Excuse me, but if Americans were scared of a wild card, just how did Obama get in there?

Obama was no wild card. He told you exactly what his agenda would be healthcare, getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan, abolishing Don't Ask, Don't Tell and support gay marriage and providing massive stimulus to the economy to pull the country out of recession. American's both liberal and conservative knew exactly what they were getting.

He also said he was going to "heal America" racially. That was a damn lie. He knew that he was going to make the white guy pay and do all he could for "his" people.

When has president ever accomplished everything on his agenda? You said he was wild card. He was no wildcard. Conservative and liberal knew exactly what they were getting.

Not so. When he was elected, I thought he could make a difference with race relations. He talked a good line. He turned into the most racially divisive president we ever had. That legacy will stay with him.

Absolute nonsense. Is it any surprise that a white guy went and shot up a black church after all the Republicans talk about Obama racist Reverend Wright church?

 

[Boss]

Because we loved Obama enough to nominate and elect him.

Boob's class sings to their Messiah.

 

[dcraelin]

small business also seem to find ways to use "business" cars for personal use....etc etc.

Well, yes... Small businesses filing their taxes on the owner's individual tax return DO have certain deductions and depreciation they can claim on their returns. Some people operate their small business from their homes, so a certain amount of the expenses for their home is deductible under US tax code.

Let's get the train back on the tracks here. This issue was raised because "tax the rich" idiots think a high reported income on your tax return means you're rich. It simply doesn't. MOST of those who are in the top marginal tax bracket are actual small businesses filing as individuals. Small business owners are NOT the opulently rich. For the MOST part, those opulent rich folks do not pay income taxes because they don't earn incomes... they are rich! They don't need to earn incomes anymore. Most of their wealth is in investments and securities and they receive a dividend. The amount of the dividends vary but they are not taxed as earned income.

So then, people say, well let's just raise the taxes on dividends to the same as the income tax rates... but there is a problem with that. Rich people also don't have to earn dividends... remember, they are already rich... they already have wealth. And there are people out there, some not in this country, who desperately need their wealth and are willing to pay them to use their wealth without a tax liability. Their returns are less but they avoid your taxation and all is good.

these are things well written law could take care of...............and just because a person files taxes as a small business does not mean that the income shown is all that mis-representative compared to those that dont that show high income.

yes, income doesnt necessarily get at wealth, but if you make 100,000 on income tax returns I have no sympathy...you need to be taxed more.

Well, in your pea-brain it seems like $100k is a lot of money, but for a small business, it's really not. There is a lot of expense and overhead that has to come out of that. But the primary thing is, you aren't raising tax rates on "the rich" but rather, on those who are creating 90% of the jobs in America.

jobs arent charity you fucking idot,those jobs add to the owners bottom line. and $100k is a lot of money taken in as income,....... like I said no sympathy. Business get all sorts of handouts and subsides from government already, they can pay more in taxes.

Businesses don't pay taxes, consumers do. The business downsizes or raises prices to compensate for the higher taxes. So all you're effectively doing is killing jobs and increasing prices for consumers.

you just got done saying they pay taxes as individuals........the income taxed is used as income by the business owner...
however, money flows back and forth in an economy between businesses and individuals, so the trite little saying "business dont pay taxes" has little real meaning.

 

[Toro]

Haha, no. Of course not.

 

[Redfish]

O'bama didn't get elected on "emotion". The economy had just collapsed. You could be a doorknob and get elected when the opposition's identified with economic disaster.

Obama was a better candidate than McCain. And yes....the economic meltdown was pinned on the GOP by the media....(that's what they do). But the easy lending policies went back to Clinton. Their are an equal number of fingers in that pie....on both sides of the political spectrum.

Wrong, a head of cabbage would have been a better candidate than obama. if you are saying he was a better campaigner than McCain, I agree. But a better candidate------NO.

So what is your evidence that Obama was either born in Kenya....or lied to his college.

If you can't back that claim, just say so.

His publisher said he was born in Kenya on the jacket to his book. So are you now saying that obama lied when he said he was born in Kenya? WTF ?

First sentence: "his publisher said"... next sentence: "Obama said"....
You're saying O'bama was his own publisher?

so, you are saying the publisher made it up and published it without obama's approval? Is that really what you are now claiming?

 

[Redfish]

small business also seem to find ways to use "business" cars for personal use....etc etc.

Well, yes... Small businesses filing their taxes on the owner's individual tax return DO have certain deductions and depreciation they can claim on their returns. Some people operate their small business from their homes, so a certain amount of the expenses for their home is deductible under US tax code.

Let's get the train back on the tracks here. This issue was raised because "tax the rich" idiots think a high reported income on your tax return means you're rich. It simply doesn't. MOST of those who are in the top marginal tax bracket are actual small businesses filing as individuals. Small business owners are NOT the opulently rich. For the MOST part, those opulent rich folks do not pay income taxes because they don't earn incomes... they are rich! They don't need to earn incomes anymore. Most of their wealth is in investments and securities and they receive a dividend. The amount of the dividends vary but they are not taxed as earned income.

So then, people say, well let's just raise the taxes on dividends to the same as the income tax rates... but there is a problem with that. Rich people also don't have to earn dividends... remember, they are already rich... they already have wealth. And there are people out there, some not in this country, who desperately need their wealth and are willing to pay them to use their wealth without a tax liability. Their returns are less but they avoid your taxation and all is good.

these are things well written law could take care of...............and just because a person files taxes as a small business does not mean that the income shown is all that mis-representative compared to those that dont that show high income.

yes, income doesnt necessarily get at wealth, but if you make 100,000 on income tax returns I have no sympathy...you need to be taxed more.

Well, in your pea-brain it seems like $100k is a lot of money, but for a small business, it's really not. There is a lot of expense and overhead that has to come out of that. But the primary thing is, you aren't raising tax rates on "the rich" but rather, on those who are creating 90% of the jobs in America.

jobs arent charity you fucking idot,those jobs add to the owners bottom line. and $100k is a lot of money taken in as income,....... like I said no sympathy. Business get all sorts of handouts and subsides from government already, they can pay more in taxes.

Businesses don't pay taxes, consumers do. The business downsizes or raises prices to compensate for the higher taxes. So all you're effectively doing is killing jobs and increasing prices for consumers.

yes, its really quite simple, but the liberal mind is not programmed to accept logical simple concepts.

all they know is: rich = evil, business = evil, government = good.

 

[Redfish]

There's been a lot of Trump support recently on the boards, but it's almost always been couched in anti-liberal rhetoric - along the lines of "I like Trump because he makes liberals upset". I have yet to see anyone put there cards on the table and publicly state that they think he would be a good President.

So here we go. Let's here some positive things about Donald Trump from the resident supporters.

What qualities does Donald Trump have that would make him a good President?

Just like the GOP ruined the economy and Republicans blamed Democrats trump will not get the nomination and somehow we will get the blame.

Republicans need to start talking to each other. So far they all seem to love trump.

I can't see why he won't win.

And how is jeb leading in the polls? Seems like the GOP is already telling Republicans they're going with bush.

Where are all the bush supporters? I mean that is your choice already?

Conservative love the idea of a no nonsense, candidate who will tell the media to fuck off, insult America's enemy's, and give no quarter to his opponents. However, they also know, corporate sponsors and most middle of the road Americans are scared shirtless of having a wild card in the white house that's subject to temper tantrums and is more likely to speak for himself than the nation when dealing with other countries.

Excuse me, but if Americans were scared of a wild card, just how did Obama get in there?

Because we loved Obama enough to nominate and elect him.

You "loved" him????? are you a complete idiot?

 

[Redfish]

Excuse me, but if Americans were scared of a wild card, just how did Obama get in there?

Obama was no wild card. He told you exactly what his agenda would be healthcare, getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan, abolishing Don't Ask, Don't Tell and support gay marriage and providing massive stimulus to the economy to pull the country out of recession. American's both liberal and conservative knew exactly what they were getting.

He also said he was going to "heal America" racially. That was a damn lie. He knew that he was going to make the white guy pay and do all he could for "his" people.

When has president ever accomplished everything on his agenda? You said he was wild card. He was no wildcard. Conservative and liberal knew exactly what they were getting.

Not so. When he was elected, I thought he could make a difference with race relations. He talked a good line. He turned into the most racially divisive president we ever had. That legacy will stay with him.

Absolute nonsense. Is it any surprise that a white guy went and shot up a black church after all the Republicans talk about Obama racist Reverend Wright church?

any comments on the illegal alien mexican that murdered the girl in SFO after being deported 5 times?

Why hasn't obama said a single word about this tragedy? Why? because the victim was white and the criminal was hispanic. Said another way, obama sucks and he is a racist pig.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Let's take it slow, stay with me here....
The 2008 election, which is what the above post was about, didn't take place over the past seven years.
It took place in 2008.

In a single day in fact.

Kind of like Pearl Harbor - but FAR more destructive.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Listen schmuck. So far I haven't seen any usmb Republican say they like jeb and you all seem to like trump. Don't you think its odd that you'll all fall in love with trump but then he won't be your nominee. One at a time you'll tell us Democrats how great your candidates are but then you yourselves won't nominate them.

What could possibly de rail the trump train? Don't blame us. You tell us why he doesn't get the nod but jeb does.

What I think is you're trying to figure out who can win moderates. Scott Walker? Who?

You know its going to be jeb. He's your only shot. Long shot that is.

Jeb is the democrat choice, the only person who can lose to Hillary. Trump. like Sanders is a shock collar, saying the things that need to be said, but are prohibited by the PC Nazis.

Scott Walker is the most likely GOP choice and will easily win the general against Hillary.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You'll vote for Jeb over hillary don't be a liar boss.

He'll never have the chance.

Jeb is your last hope, but he will NOT be the GOP nominee.

 

[Carla_Danger]

You'll vote for Jeb over hillary don't be a liar boss.

He'll never have the chance.

Jeb is your last hope, but he will NOT be the GOP nominee.

This thread has been bookmarked for future entertainment.

 

[Uncensored2008]

you just got done saying they pay taxes as individuals........the income taxed is used as income by the business owner...
however, money flows back and forth in an economy between businesses and individuals, so the trite little saying "business dont pay taxes" has little real meaning.

Tax is a cost of business - it is amortized into the price goods and services. When taxes go up, prices go up. The consumer ultimately pays all taxes.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This thread has been bookmarked for future entertainment.

Good, when we revisit it, you can say that Scott Walker is a FAR better president than the flouncing fairy Barry is....

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Getting back to the topic of the thread, Would Trump make a good president...I like his ideas but not his personality. I'm afraid he always thinks he's right and would never listen to advisors, as good as they may be.

He thinks he has all the answers and I think he's right on target with most. But he isn't presidential. He can't be a diplomat which is what a president is.

I think he could be used for negotiating treaties and business opportunities for the US. But not president.

Putting that aside, he's getting traction the other candidates aren't getting. Maybe some of the GOP candidates should look at his playbook and learn a few things.

I disagree. I look at someone like Trump as being perhaps a little like Teddy Roosevelt. He marches to his own drummer, he is a leader and not a follower... he is a trailblazer. Teddy was hard as fuck but he could be diplomatic when he needed to be. Trump is the same way, he didn't get to where he is by being a total asshole to people.

Now... That said, Teddy wasn't originally elected to the presidency and didn't win his party's nomination. The GOP actually put him on the ticket as a VP to shut him up and get him out of the way. He was William McKinley's VP and became president after McKinley's assassination. But much like Trump, he was very popular among the people and after serving the remainder of McKinley's term he was re-elected in a landslide.

It remains to be seen what will happen with Trump but I like him being in the race, mixing things up, pushing the Establishment goofballs around and making them look stupid. He probably won't win the nomination. I've said all along, I don't think he will... but for now, I'm liking it.

That's a good post, Boss and you make some good points. I like what Trump stands for, I just wince at his delivery.

You'll be wincing even more when the Leftist media starts really digging into Trumps attitude toward women. No doubt this will include a detailed interview of Carrie Prejean, Miss California.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Getting back to the topic of the thread, Would Trump make a good president...I like his ideas but not his personality. I'm afraid he always thinks he's right and would never listen to advisors, as good as they may be.

He thinks he has all the answers and I think he's right on target with most. But he isn't presidential. He can't be a diplomat which is what a president is.

I think he could be used for negotiating treaties and business opportunities for the US. But not president.

Putting that aside, he's getting traction the other candidates aren't getting. Maybe some of the GOP candidates should look at his playbook and learn a few things.

I disagree. I look at someone like Trump as being perhaps a little like Teddy Roosevelt. He marches to his own drummer, he is a leader and not a follower... he is a trailblazer. Teddy was hard as fuck but he could be diplomatic when he needed to be. Trump is the same way, he didn't get to where he is by being a total asshole to people.

Now... That said, Teddy wasn't originally elected to the presidency and didn't win his party's nomination. The GOP actually put him on the ticket as a VP to shut him up and get him out of the way. He was William McKinley's VP and became president after McKinley's assassination. But much like Trump, he was very popular among the people and after serving the remainder of McKinley's term he was re-elected in a landslide.

It remains to be seen what will happen with Trump but I like him being in the race, mixing things up, pushing the Establishment goofballs around and making them look stupid. He probably won't win the nomination. I've said all along, I don't think he will... but for now, I'm liking it.

That's a good post, Boss and you make some good points. I like what Trump stands for, I just wince at his delivery.

You'll be wincing even more when the Leftist media starts really digging into Trumps attitude toward women. No doubt this will include a detailed interview of Carrie Prejean, Miss California.

yes what a lurid affair that was, but why would you think it would adversely affect the Donald??

Contract termination
Pageant organizers investigated Prejean for violating the terms of her contract after a photograph of Prejean partially nude with her back turned to the camera appeared on a celebrity gossip blog. Prejean defended the shots as legitimate modeling,[29][30] and Miss USA owner Donald Trump agreed, stating, "We are in the 21st century. We have determined the pictures taken are fine" and that "in some cases the pictures were lovely."[31] Trump went on to compare Prejean's views on same sex-marriage as being in line with those of President Barack Obama,[32] and National Organization for Marriage president Maggie Gallagher stated on May 5 that the release would not affect Prejean's role with her group.[29]

Despite his initial support, Trump agreed to terminate Prejean's contract on June 10, 2009, citing "continued breach of contract issues."[33] Prejean claimed that K2 Productions, producers of the Miss California USA pageant, wanted her to pose for Playboy and appear on the reality television show I'm a Celebrity... Get Me out of Here!, though K2 Productions executive Keith Lewis claimed he was simply notifying Prejean of all offers for appearances.[33]

In August 2009, Prejean sued Miss California USA officials on a variety of civil grounds, including libel, slander, religious discrimination and the unauthorized release of private medical records.[34] K2 Productions and pageant officials filed counterclaims seeking the profits from Prejean's forthcoming book, which it claims was written in violation of the Miss California USA contract, and the return of $5,200 loaned to Prejean for breast implants.[35] On November 3, 2009, Prejean and K2 announced a settlement with undisclosed terms, with both sides dropping their lawsuits.[36] CNN subsequently reported that Prejean's settlement with Miss California USA officials was driven by the discovery of a recording in which Prejean masturbated while another individual filmed her.[37]
Carrie Prejean - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Looks like she sued Miss California USA officials, that would be Pam Wilson and Top 10 Productions, Inc.

Trump had ended his dealings with her as stated from a "continuing breach of contract", but no statement was ever released by Trump or his organization as for exact causation. Looks like the legal grounds, which is where the relevancy lies, were sufficient for Trump to win.

I love it when folks try to personalize or make the reader empathize with these moral train wrecks who end up getting what life has in store for them .............

 

[Flopper]

Conservative love the idea of a no nonsense, candidate who will tell the media to fuck off, insult America's enemy's, and give no quarter to his opponents. However, they also know, corporate sponsors and most middle of the road Americans are scared shirtless of having a wild card in the white house that's subject to temper tantrums and is more likely to speak for himself than the nation when dealing with other countries.

Excuse me, but if Americans were scared of a wild card, just how did Obama get in there?

Obama was no wild card. He told you exactly what his agenda would be healthcare, getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan, abolishing Don't Ask, Don't Tell and support gay marriage and providing massive stimulus to the economy to pull the country out of recession. American's both liberal and conservative knew exactly what they were getting.

He also said he was going to "heal America" racially. That was a damn lie. He knew that he was going to make the white guy pay and do all he could for "his" people.

When has president ever accomplished everything on his agenda? You said he was wild card. He was no wildcard. Conservative and liberal knew exactly what they were getting.

Not so. When he was elected, I thought he could make a difference with race relations. He talked a good line. He turned into the most racially divisive president we ever had. That legacy will stay with him.

Obama only alluded to improving race relation relations in his March 2008 speech on race, just as his predecessors have done. After the speech, the Wall Street Journal reported, “Both blacks and whites carry enormous expectations for Mr. Obama”. However, Obama never made any specific promises to improve race relations because fixing race relations is an impossible task for any president black or white because specific racial issues are local problems and must be solved at a local level.