Doesn’t it bother conservatives that by nature, they don’t embrace new ideas?

[CrusaderFrank]

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

Not too bright there, are you Sparky?

Good one?!?! Childish, yet, shallow. Congrats.

Letting people keep more of the money they earn is EXACTLY LIKE SOCIALISM!

Again.....shows how little you understand about our economic system for Christ sake.

You're confused, which is to be expected

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Those aren't new ideas. Both sides say the same shit over and over and continually sabotage the progress of the other side.

It is nice to see that you do NOT agree with Trump's sabotage of Obamacare.

You're nuts if you think that giveaway to the insurance companies was some kind of progressive solution. I support universal healthcare and more affordable education for young people. A healthy, educated and debt free population strengthens America as a whole. I'm a real leftist, not some halfwit partisan hack that thinks Obama was some kind of hero.

Not sure why you have to label it 'progressive'?! So then you can castigate it as something?

I'll be the first to admit.....Obamacare is NOT the end all, be all for health care. It was, however, a vast improvement to what we had. Bottom line is that millions more Americans had health insurance and costs were stabilizing. I still think that universal health care is far more efficient and what we will eventually move to.....but, until that point; Obamacare improved things.

What happens if everybody decided not to work and expected the government to provide for them what would happen to the system?
Would the government implement slavery and force people to work?

Would our FF's have thought those workers would give 1/2 of what they earned to the Gub'Mit?

~S~

What if everybody decided not to work and depended on the government?

 

[Kondor3]

The Republican Party runs the same platform every election. There is never anything new. While Democrats are still consistent in every election, they still have many ideas. Shouldn’t we learn from our mistakes and embrace new ideas?

If, by new ideas, you mean...

* giving Shamnesty to 11-12,000,000 Illegal Aliens... then, no thank you

* equating Islam with other, far more peaceful belief systems... then, no thank you

* raising taxes year after year to pay for an ever-expanding nanny welfare state... then, no thank you

* normalizing sexual deviancy and perversion (gay marriage)... then, no thank you

* making it politically incorrect to object to the slaughter of innocent babies... then, no thank you

* drawing red lines in the sand, then impotently doing nothing when they're crossed... then, no thank you

Etc, etc, etc...

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The DimWit Dems "new ideas" festered in the American Soul for years, and ultimately brought about the Democratic downfall of November 8, 2016.

The DimWIt Dems are the LAST people in the world that should be dissing others for a failure to learn from past mistakes.

The DimWit Dems are playing Queen of Denial and not admitting to themselves, the real reason(s) why they were rejected by White Straight Christian America.

If the Democrats ever get around to admitting that to themselves and communicating that publicly, then, perhaps, I'll consider listening to them again.

Meanwhile, I'm not holding my breath, that these delusional, lying charlatans will ever attain the requisite objectivity and enlightenment to do such a thing.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Many (bad) ideas...

Indeed the good ideas have been learned from the many mistakes. For example, the mistake of socialism... Why do leftists want to try a failed idea again and again?

Well the truth is that socialism isn’t necessarily the antithesis of capitalism, but obviously capitalism is still flawed unchecked. Wages are way behind on the cost of living and it’s been this way for decades.

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

Not too bright there, are you Sparky?

My guess is you're not going to address the fact that the current POTUS and Republican Congress just increased the budget deficit after Obama presided over more than $1 trillion reduction to the deficit?

Obama set a new baseline $700MM larger than when he came into office. He only reduced it because of the "Brutal sequester"

"They haven't come together and done their jobs, and so as a consequence, we've got these automatic, brutal spending cuts..." Barack "born in Kenya raised in Indonesia" Obama

Remarks by the President on the Sequester

 

[Flash]

Socialism is not a new idea. It has been a failure for 100 years. No, I do not embrace it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Republican Party runs the same platform every election. There is never anything new. While Democrats are still consistent in every election, they still have many ideas. Shouldn’t we learn from our mistakes and embrace new ideas?

Many (bad) ideas...

Indeed the good ideas have been learned from the many mistakes. For example, the mistake of socialism... Why do leftists want to try a failed idea again and again?

Well the truth is that socialism isn’t necessarily the antithesis of capitalism, but obviously capitalism is still flawed unchecked. Wages are way behind on the cost of living and it’s been this way for decades.

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

You'll see things differently when you leave Mom's basement and get your first paycheck.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

“Doesn’t it bother conservatives that by nature, they don’t embrace new ideas?”

Obviously not, given the fact that conservatism is predicated on an unwarranted fear of change, diversity, dissent.

Indeed, conservatism is fundamentally authoritarian, seeking to compel conformity and demonize that which is new or perceived to be ‘different.’

Meanwhile all authoritarian dictatorships have been Socialist, which is left wing. Try doing ANY amount of research, it won't hurt you.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

“Doesn’t it bother conservatives that by nature, they don’t embrace new ideas?”

Obviously not, given the fact that conservatism is predicated on an unwarranted fear of change, diversity, dissent.

Indeed, conservatism is fundamentally authoritarian, seeking to compel conformity and demonize that which is new or perceived to be ‘different.’

These same sorts were having tea and crumpets ,singing 'God save the Queen', while the leftie loonie libtards of the late 1700's gained our independence

~S~

Those are classical Liberals, who founded the US on the idea of small, limited government(Which lasted all of a few decades, oops.). The Democrats today are the Liberals of the 1950s, who want to turn every Nation into the USSR.

 

[Hellokitty]

The Republican Party runs the same platform every election. There is never anything new. While Democrats are still consistent in every election, they still have many ideas. Shouldn’t we learn from our mistakes and embrace new ideas?

Seems to me the only ideas coming from democrats are "whatever TRUMP does we will resist, even if it means defending MS-13, rapists, and drug dealers."

 

[TheDude]

The Republican Party runs the same platform every election. There is never anything new. While Democrats are still consistent in every election, they still have many ideas. Shouldn’t we learn from our mistakes and embrace new ideas?

To a progressive any change is good. To a conservative good change is good. There are fundamental ideas and traditions that should not change with time, BECAUSE THEY WORK and for good reason. Progressives take the route of delusions of grandeur, generally because they're corrupt and misery loves company.

BTW numb nuts, your boy POTUS Trump is making a lot of changes. Like every other thread you start, it's BS from the start.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

The Republican Party runs the same platform every election. There is never anything new. While Democrats are still consistent in every election, they still have many ideas. Shouldn’t we learn from our mistakes and embrace new ideas?

Many (bad) ideas...

Indeed the good ideas have been learned from the many mistakes. For example, the mistake of socialism... Why do leftists want to try a failed idea again and again?

Well the truth is that socialism isn’t necessarily the antithesis of capitalism, but obviously capitalism is still flawed unchecked. Wages are way behind on the cost of living and it’s been this way for decades.

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

Uhm, yes, you are gullible, because you're ignoring the fact that any tax cut would be more for wealthier individuals, since it's by percentage. The only reason you believe it's for the wealthy is because you're gullible and just repeating what the media has been repeating for ANY tax cut. Meanwhile tax increases are harder on the small businesses, because they have less money, yet the left has consistently called for more tax increases, because their policies promote monopolies.

 

[bendog]

The Republican Party runs the same platform every election. There is never anything new. While Democrats are still consistent in every election, they still have many ideas. Shouldn’t we learn from our mistakes and embrace new ideas?

Many (bad) ideas...

Indeed the good ideas have been learned from the many mistakes. For example, the mistake of socialism... Why do leftists want to try a failed idea again and again?

Well the truth is that socialism isn’t necessarily the antithesis of capitalism, but obviously capitalism is still flawed unchecked. Wages are way behind on the cost of living and it’s been this way for decades.

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

Uhm, yes, you are gullible, because you're ignoring the fact that any tax cut would be more for wealthier individuals, since it's by percentage. The only reason you believe it's for the wealthy is because you're gullible and just repeating what the media has been repeating for ANY tax cut. Meanwhile tax increases are harder on the small businesses, because they have less money, yet the left has consistently called for more tax increases, because their policies promote monopolies.

Does God or someone require tax cuts to be by percentage? Who is only embracing ideas of the past?

 

[bendog]

The Republican Party runs the same platform every election. There is never anything new. While Democrats are still consistent in every election, they still have many ideas. Shouldn’t we learn from our mistakes and embrace new ideas?

No offense but your OP is false. The gop does ask whether chain immigration still is a positive and whether any tax on corporate profits hinders econ growth.

 

[bendog]

maybe Rump could make fake tits cheaper for everyone.

Tax cuts for breast implants!

 

[JBond]

The Republican Party runs the same platform every election. There is never anything new. While Democrats are still consistent in every election, they still have many ideas. Shouldn’t we learn from our mistakes and embrace new ideas?

LOL! New ideas from the party of Hillary Clinton? Absolutely laughable.

And regarding your far left fringe nut job liberals, their ideas have been tried and have failed over and over.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Many (bad) ideas...

Indeed the good ideas have been learned from the many mistakes. For example, the mistake of socialism... Why do leftists want to try a failed idea again and again?

Well the truth is that socialism isn’t necessarily the antithesis of capitalism, but obviously capitalism is still flawed unchecked. Wages are way behind on the cost of living and it’s been this way for decades.

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

Uhm, yes, you are gullible, because you're ignoring the fact that any tax cut would be more for wealthier individuals, since it's by percentage. The only reason you believe it's for the wealthy is because you're gullible and just repeating what the media has been repeating for ANY tax cut. Meanwhile tax increases are harder on the small businesses, because they have less money, yet the left has consistently called for more tax increases, because their policies promote monopolies.

Does God or someone require tax cuts to be by percentage? Who is only embracing ideas of the past?

Taxes are a percentage. The taxes which aren't are the government's micro-transactions, like testing fees for a driver's test, tickets, etc.

Uhm, probably the economic illiterates asking for Socialist policies despite the fact that they've failed the world over. Of course, Republicans aren't much better, they want the same thing, they just need to pretend that they oppose the left.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well the truth is that socialism isn’t necessarily the antithesis of capitalism, but obviously capitalism is still flawed unchecked. Wages are way behind on the cost of living and it’s been this way for decades.

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

Uhm, yes, you are gullible, because you're ignoring the fact that any tax cut would be more for wealthier individuals, since it's by percentage. The only reason you believe it's for the wealthy is because you're gullible and just repeating what the media has been repeating for ANY tax cut. Meanwhile tax increases are harder on the small businesses, because they have less money, yet the left has consistently called for more tax increases, because their policies promote monopolies.

Does God or someone require tax cuts to be by percentage? Who is only embracing ideas of the past?

Taxes are a percentage. The taxes which aren't are the government's micro-transactions, like testing fees for a driver's test, tickets, etc.

Uhm, probably the economic illiterates asking for Socialist policies despite the fact that they've failed the world over. Of course, Republicans aren't much better, they want the same thing, they just need to pretend that they oppose the left.

Progressives believe it's all the government money! You have to adjust your thinking to understand how truly wrong and fucked up they are and why every time it leads to ruin for everyone except Progressive leadership -- just as planned

 

[bendog]

Well the truth is that socialism isn’t necessarily the antithesis of capitalism, but obviously capitalism is still flawed unchecked. Wages are way behind on the cost of living and it’s been this way for decades.

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

Uhm, yes, you are gullible, because you're ignoring the fact that any tax cut would be more for wealthier individuals, since it's by percentage. The only reason you believe it's for the wealthy is because you're gullible and just repeating what the media has been repeating for ANY tax cut. Meanwhile tax increases are harder on the small businesses, because they have less money, yet the left has consistently called for more tax increases, because their policies promote monopolies.

Does God or someone require tax cuts to be by percentage? Who is only embracing ideas of the past?

Taxes are a percentage. The taxes which aren't are the government's micro-transactions, like testing fees for a driver's test, tickets, etc.

Uhm, probably the economic illiterates asking for Socialist policies despite the fact that they've failed the world over. Of course, Republicans aren't much better, they want the same thing, they just need to pretend that they oppose the left.

Rubio proposed a tax cut not tied to %'s. God did not write your beliefs on stone tablets.

 

[bendog]

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

Uhm, yes, you are gullible, because you're ignoring the fact that any tax cut would be more for wealthier individuals, since it's by percentage. The only reason you believe it's for the wealthy is because you're gullible and just repeating what the media has been repeating for ANY tax cut. Meanwhile tax increases are harder on the small businesses, because they have less money, yet the left has consistently called for more tax increases, because their policies promote monopolies.

Does God or someone require tax cuts to be by percentage? Who is only embracing ideas of the past?

Taxes are a percentage. The taxes which aren't are the government's micro-transactions, like testing fees for a driver's test, tickets, etc.

Uhm, probably the economic illiterates asking for Socialist policies despite the fact that they've failed the world over. Of course, Republicans aren't much better, they want the same thing, they just need to pretend that they oppose the left.

Progressives believe it's all the government money! You have to adjust your thinking to understand how truly wrong and fucked up they are and why every time it leads to ruin for everyone except Progressive leadership -- just as planned

That's not even close to true, Frank. You just pollute the conservative brand with bullshit.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Socialism is the ability to convince enough gullible people that if the hand their money to their leaders, they'll all be better off

You mean like giving the President himself or the people who crashed the economy a gigantic tax cut and windfall of cash?!?!?!? The current POTUS and Republican Congress just did EXACTLY what you say.....but sure.....I am gullible?!?! Give me a friggin' break.

Uhm, yes, you are gullible, because you're ignoring the fact that any tax cut would be more for wealthier individuals, since it's by percentage. The only reason you believe it's for the wealthy is because you're gullible and just repeating what the media has been repeating for ANY tax cut. Meanwhile tax increases are harder on the small businesses, because they have less money, yet the left has consistently called for more tax increases, because their policies promote monopolies.

Does God or someone require tax cuts to be by percentage? Who is only embracing ideas of the past?

Taxes are a percentage. The taxes which aren't are the government's micro-transactions, like testing fees for a driver's test, tickets, etc.

Uhm, probably the economic illiterates asking for Socialist policies despite the fact that they've failed the world over. Of course, Republicans aren't much better, they want the same thing, they just need to pretend that they oppose the left.

Rubio proposed a tax cut not tied to %'s. God did not write your beliefs on stone tablets.

That's riveting, but the politicians wouldn't get to steal nearly as much money if they didn't use percentages.